| IVOD_ID |
167763 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167763 |
| 日期 |
2026-03-23 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-5-35,20-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期外交及國防、財政委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
35 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
外交及國防委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期外交及國防、財政委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-03-23T10:34:41+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-03-23T10:42:55+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:14 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/fac85a1267872a8a3bf0de6ff691b2613e8ac6646e11c8ecc20d8b31dcd6c605741abac731c48f905ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
顏寬恒 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:34:41 - 10:42:55 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-03-23T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期外交及國防、財政委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：併案審查：一、行政院函請審議「強化防衛韌性及不對稱戰力計畫採購特別條例草案」案。二、本院台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「保衛國家安全及強化不對稱戰力計畫採購特別條例草案」案。三、本院國民黨黨團擬具「強化國防及對美軍事採購特別條例草案」案。(3月23日、3月25
日及26日三天一次會)） |
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今天各黨團討論的重點多多在這個總金額的高低那我認為真正被低估的風險是匯率在重大對美採購案當中新台幣兌美元的匯率只要變動一塊錢那實際上影響都數百億台幣都數百億 |
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那所以這是直接衝擊到國防預算穩定性的一個結構性風險那面對美國還有國際情勢的造成的一個匯率不確定性那國防部目前是否已經跟中央銀行還是財政部建立一套制度化且主動的匯率避險機制例如索匯或者是其他的金融工具 |
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還是說持續的採取事後補差的一個被動的做法請部長說明 |
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委員好我是主席局局長有關我們對美軍購有關匯率的部分目前國防部是按照發價書以及65表相關付款期程時間到我們再去辦理相關的結匯目前我們是沒有辦法去做所謂的避險的一個作為所以還是依照過往一樣就是事後由預算來做一個補償的部分如果有匯出的話我們必須用預算來補償 |
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沒有辦法更積極或者是一個做出一個主動性的一個避嫌措施沒辦法做目前國安部的部分沒辦法做這個那另外這個結餘款結餘款滯留在美國這個均售的FRB帳戶已經是多年來都這樣子了那根據審計部過往的一個報告說這些躺在美國的錢高達數百億台幣甚至於有些專案他這個 |
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裝備都已經退役了那帳還沒有結清要避免這一次採購案重蹈覆轍那是不是避免說變成美方的一個無息提款機當我們數百億的資金在FRB帳戶的時候這些錢剛剛部長也說了這些錢實際上是台灣掌管的是台灣擁有的 |
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在FRB的帳戶裡面所產生的支息也歸我們喔是沒有錯但是我要提出的就是如果美方提出一項不在原規劃內不在原規劃內甚至不符合我方現階段需要採購的這樣子的一個採購案那 |
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這樣對我國的一個國防自主權跟財政紀律是造成一個極大的挑戰我們原本計劃是不是說原本計劃要將捷運款繳回國庫那繳回國庫或者是投入其他急需的一個其他的項目那如果說被導向美方現在要 |
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清他們的庫存而指定或者是要求我們採購的不是在我們原規劃內的我們的軍購的一個武器部分那這樣子的話部長你是否會堅持說先繳回國庫再重新送立法審議的一個法制程序 |
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報告委員我們結會到那個美方的外匯會回來的兩種時機第一個就是所謂的他案子已經結束了他整個清算之後還有餘款我們叫做外匯的退匯餘款那第二個部分就剛剛布朗有提到的我們不管是在美國FRB銀行的支息我們也是全數都會結繳國庫這兩個款項全數結繳國庫 |
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至於剛剛委員提到的是不是美方有另外額外需要我們再去買的那我們會按照我們的建案程序回來做一個評估如果有需要我們會循建案程序完成計畫之後編列預算另外再去做所謂的結會不會從這些餘款裡面做一個所謂的流用 以上報告相關的這些預算都還是要經過大院的同意才有可能 |
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對 所以我說我們當然支持就是說要強化我們的國防那支持必要的一個對外的採購對美的採購但是不要說 |
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動不動就對監督者來戴帽子來扣上說一個不支持國防預算就是不支持國防但我們現在的問題不是說要不要買而是怎麼買買的有沒有制度有沒有底線如果匯率風險如果匯率風險沒有控管然後解一款都滯留在美國那交貨又一延再延 |
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整套這樣的機制就是把所有的風險都留在台灣所以我們支持要強化台灣的國防但是主導權一定要在台灣這合理吧 |
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這合理吧我想剛剛已經說過了 經過的相關的程序已經是行之有年那我們放在這個FRB的帳戶的款項都還是我們的算真的支息也是屬於我們的所以在FRB的帳戶嚴格來講不算是我們已經支付的這個款項那我們會先都依照審計的單位的要求我們都會來 |
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匯到FRB的帳戶都會受到監管所以我想整個我們這一邊的整個集合的程序也都相當嚴謹那美方他是因為政府對政府所以美方跟他的合約商也要有一個相關嚴謹的集合的程序 |
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如果說像賴政府上台這一年多那兩岸高度緊張嘛台海局勢很危急美國政府理當就是要協防台海的安全那應該要依照跟軍方合約如期供應台灣防衛性武器才是保護台灣正確的具體做法但是我們實際上美國卻多次違反了我們的軍購合約延遲當初承諾台灣的武器交貨時間 |
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那這種情況面對現在的高度緊張部長除了密切協調這四個字我們還有什麼更強硬的能夠確保這一次軍購案美國未來能夠如期的旅行合約 |
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每個軍購案成立之後,我們都會成立專案辦公室,那專案辦公室會有美方跟我們人員一起,我們也會派聯絡過去,那我們會掌握相關的進度,那有任何的這個問題,我們透過專案辦公室會跟美方反映,那我們這邊國防部本身也會向美方反映, |
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然後雙方來透過努力來解決那所以剛剛詹貴士事實上也提到像F16V就因為這樣子我們現在兩班制他們不斷的一個進行加速生產所以現在在產線的部分已經有50連同在市費的部分已經有59家所以這個都是說我們透過跟美方的政府類政府之間的一個協調都能夠獲取一定的這個 |
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獲得到一定的,獲自一定的這個改善這樣那這一次的我們的特別預算的軍購是不是也有可能會像F16V這樣的情況發生我們會當然就是希望就是說像我們之前希望能夠發家族授權我們在預算還沒通過之前先行簽署就是希望不要產生延檔那之後又成立中央辦公室那我們會透過跟他們密切協調 |
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如果假設又跟F16V一樣的情況發生我們國防部有什麼因應的措施 |
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剛剛也已經講了,因為有這些專案辦公室,所以我們會還是對政府催促,不斷的開會催促沒有,他們一定會提出一個相對應的解放,我想美方都不願意看到對我們的教育提升有所延宕因為美方最大的核心利益還是要強化我們台灣自我還原的能力我想這個是台灣關係法以及六項保證裡面都有提到的事項 |
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好,謝謝 |