| IVOD_ID |
167702 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167702 |
| 日期 |
2026-03-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-5-19,20-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期經濟、財政兩委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期經濟、財政兩委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-03-19T10:28:14+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-03-19T10:34:58+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:44 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/ddc1636ead3b8e59e90b03806554e1795fca415873cf37f15e5c86e8186f6ced8a94a20e7e7dac435ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
李坤城 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:28:14 - 10:34:58 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-03-19T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期經濟、財政兩委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：審查：
一、 本院委員邱志偉等17人擬具「產業創新條例第十條、第二十三條之一及第二十三條之二條文修正草案」案。
二、 本院委員鍾佳濱等20人擬具「產業創新條例第三十九條、第四十六條及第四十六條之一條文修正草案」案。
三、 本院台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「產業創新條例第三十條條文修正草案」案。
四、 本院委員賴瑞隆等21人擬具「產業創新條例部分條文修正草案」案。
五、 本院委員陳亭妃等19人擬具「產業創新條例部分條文修正草案」案。
六、 本院委員邱鎮軍等17人擬具「產業創新條例第十條之一及第七十二條條文修正草案」案。
七、 本院委員王鴻薇等23人擬具「產業創新條例第十條之一條文修正草案」案。
八、 本院委員廖偉翔等19人擬具「產業創新條例第十條之一及第二十三條之一條文修正草案」案。
九、 本院委員丁學忠等16人擬具「產業創新條例第六十七條之一及第七十條條文修正草案」案。
十、本院委員林倩綺等20人擬具「產業創新條例第十條之一及第七十二條條文修正草案」案。
十一、本院委員蔡易餘等17人擬具「產業創新條例部分條文修正草案」案。
十二、本院台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「產業創新條例部分條文修正草案」案。(僅詢答)） |
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請經濟部何次長 |
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國營好來市長這個我們國營事業油電糖水這個財報在去年裡都出來了那台電去年是有賺錢是不是有賺多少大概賺幾百億吧 |
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賺幾百億喔?有沒有一個數字?739賺了739,那那個中油咧?虧了多少錢?中油虧了多少錢?虧90億那它這個累計虧損,這7年還是8年來,累計虧損是超過800億是不是?對那這個累計虧損差不多是中油的問題還是環境的問題?還是配合政府補貼的問題? |
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當然都有啦大環境有的好有的不好啊那你要幫中友講一下話到底是哪裡不好啊 |
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因為國際油價的關係啦尤其最近最近是這個等一下才會討論到啊你之前已經累積這個去年是虧損了91億嘛他們說他們去年虧損主要是受到這一個偵測器補貼啦達到173億啦天然氣價格動漲或是緩漲啦這是他們的理由啦那我不知道這個次長清不清楚啊是 |
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這兩個禮拜來,那因為我們這個有補貼,就是要那個油電就是要電煤油啦,就是油價的話是要先動漲嘛那所以呢,這個兩週就虧損33億了是不是?對那接下來呢,這才兩週耶,那接下來如果再次再延長咧?再次延長如果是一個月兩個月的話,那中油的虧損大概會多少咧? |
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當然現在就是會跟著國際油價的油價今天又漲了啊對 所以它如果說還是有這個需要配合政策的話 我想這個中油它的虧損還是會繼續增加那你們應該有個預算嘛 不是說這個對 所以我們現在就是中油它也提出說要增資3500億嘛那也報到院裡面那院裡面現在也正在審議當中就是我們希望從中油的財務結構 |
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好 那兩個部分啦 一個就是說有沒有算就是我要問就是說兩個禮拜虧了33億人那如果暫時延長一個月到兩個月的話中一個會虧損多少 有沒有這個數字因為國際油價是變動的 它會跟著這個當然也不是每天變動 你要抓一個Range出來啊其實像今天油價又往上了所以它的一個就是那個1000億會不會1000億可能 |
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應該不會啦,如果這個戰事我想也應該不會...那一千億是我喊的啦,你們應該有一個估計的數字啦我是說兩週33億啊是,這個可能我們回去要再估算幾種情境之下對啊,你們要去估算那個情境啊兩週33億,然後一個月多少,50億還是100億我們再估算一下再看因為你們有提出這一個3500億的政治計畫嘛對不對那是送到,要不要送到立法院來 |
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要那慘了啊台電那個債業黨也不讓你們過啊雷千億就把你們刪掉了對不對那中友這個3500億送到立法院來不過這個是因為要穩定物價我想委員台電也是穩定物價啊 債業黨有沒有同意我們都支持啊 債業黨有沒有同意沒有嘛 3500億你覺得債業黨會讓你過嗎 |
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我們還是請委員多支持啊對啊你要請在野黨委員多支持我們當然都支持啊那你有沒有看到一個新聞昨天國來辦講他說啊統一後兩岸互聯互通滿格電力人家每一戰爭的時候都要吃台灣豆腐你有沒有注意到這一則新聞有是對那你作為一個經濟部的次長怎麼去反映這件事情回應這件事情 |
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當然這個是不可能的這個是屬於認知作戰的一部分我覺得我們台灣自己能源的部分我們已經也做足了準備我們有安全存量而且我們也有一些因應的做法尤其這段期間我們中油對一些天然氣或能源的調度其實都可以維持到比方說現在是四月底以前 |
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那五月的部分我們現在也正在積極在調裝當中所以這個部分我想我們這個能源的部分我們一定會幫大家這個確保能源的供應是無虞的市長你講的認知作戰連這個東西都要認知作戰那請教一下那在每一戰爭持續期間的話那油價持續會動漲嗎 |
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你說動漲嗎?當然我們有一個機制我們有雅齡最低價還有專案平穩的機制我知道所以在這兩個機制之下,我想我們一定會把油價控制好不會讓我們CPI超過2%我們的目標就是對啦,我意思是說那是不是有機會再維持動漲 |
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當然這個就會看到整個國際情勢的一個所以我是說每一天戰爭如果持續啦對 我們還是希望說這個油價還會一定參席會都延期了嘛那至少這一個月大概我認為戰爭可能還會再持續啦所以這個月或是說不要講到下個月下個禮拜是不是就 |
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還是有機會動長跟委員報告就因為我剛講到講到就是說這個油價的決定我們有兩個機制嘛一個是啞鈴最低價好那電價勒那電價的話電價是下個月會開會嗎3月有一個審議委員會那我想審議委員會討論的時候我們會把相關的資訊都會提供給審議委員來做參考當然大家也是希望電價也要能夠穩定啦就不要 |
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不要漲但是這個資訊當然我們也會傳達因為是戰爭的關係我們還是希望能夠維持油電都能夠維持動漲這樣才不會影響到我們的民生經濟影響到我們一般這些小老百姓不管你是做什麼行業可能因此都會受到影響好不好把我們這個訊息傳遞出去好 謝謝市長 謝謝主席 |