| IVOD_ID |
167696 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167696 |
| 日期 |
2026-03-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-5-19,20-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期經濟、財政兩委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期經濟、財政兩委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-03-19T10:05:32+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-03-19T10:12:42+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:10 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/ddc1636ead3b8e597c92c9f90942c9085fca415873cf37f15e5c86e8186f6ced3b12e6e223e8e7575ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鍾佳濱 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:05:32 - 10:12:42 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-03-19T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期經濟、財政兩委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：審查：
一、 本院委員邱志偉等17人擬具「產業創新條例第十條、第二十三條之一及第二十三條之二條文修正草案」案。
二、 本院委員鍾佳濱等20人擬具「產業創新條例第三十九條、第四十六條及第四十六條之一條文修正草案」案。
三、 本院台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「產業創新條例第三十條條文修正草案」案。
四、 本院委員賴瑞隆等21人擬具「產業創新條例部分條文修正草案」案。
五、 本院委員陳亭妃等19人擬具「產業創新條例部分條文修正草案」案。
六、 本院委員邱鎮軍等17人擬具「產業創新條例第十條之一及第七十二條條文修正草案」案。
七、 本院委員王鴻薇等23人擬具「產業創新條例第十條之一條文修正草案」案。
八、 本院委員廖偉翔等19人擬具「產業創新條例第十條之一及第二十三條之一條文修正草案」案。
九、 本院委員丁學忠等16人擬具「產業創新條例第六十七條之一及第七十條條文修正草案」案。
十、本院委員林倩綺等20人擬具「產業創新條例第十條之一及第七十二條條文修正草案」案。
十一、本院委員蔡易餘等17人擬具「產業創新條例部分條文修正草案」案。
十二、本院台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「產業創新條例部分條文修正草案」案。(僅詢答)） |
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請經濟部核次長還有原區產業發展署的邱署長還有原區管理局的曾副局長產業原區管理局曾副局長 |
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好市長來我先你看一下新聞他這裡說什麼移工放煙火啦吵到被報案找到失聯移工那麼外籍移工夜夜高歌居民受不了你覺得這些新聞報導好像把移工很負面的貼標籤好像社區跟移工有這些摩擦你有沒有聽過有沒有看過這樣的新聞 |
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有其實我這些照片顯現出來已經是比較管理好的地方機車牌的整齊裡面的宿舍還住的還算是有序為什麼會有這些摩擦我想看其實就是文化及生活習慣還有作息造成的社區超載舉例來講園區我們開發後業者他通常不會把寶貴的土地買來蓋宿舍但是他的業界又大量的使用移工移工他就給仲介去處理仲介幹嘛仲介他的附近的社區 |
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這些產業園區開發後周邊的社區很多都是老舊的部落有的小孩搬出去了整棟沒人住租下來怎樣租金便宜但是一旦這些人進駐之後怎樣機車進出停放因為他連搬嘛 |
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大家在睡覺了他那邊進出然後呢然後他的垃圾啊因為不落地居民乖乖的七點鐘晚上垃圾菜來丟掉移工他沒有辦法所以就堆積在那裡這些其實就是說明了什麼在既有的農村社會如果在園區旁邊搬來了很多的移工他會不會造成這個衝突你覺得會不會會那怎麼解決是不是在園區裡面廠商他要蓋宿舍給他們住 |
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是不是這樣你不用點頭你可以說是或不是是嗎如果廠商有能力的話對 廠商有能力要法規配合要給土地來往下看現在我們的產狀條例當中原來的規定是它有產業用地 社區用地跟公設用地公設大家想要什麼污水處理 電力 道路 |
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那什麼是社區用地?就是因為產業進駐之後,它的員工產生了一些需求,叫社區性的需求,使於住勤育樂的,可以不超過10%,就是因為限了這個10%,所以造成大家覺得園區都要用來蓋廠房, |
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做道路 做污水沒有想到這裡面工作人的需求所以我們現在呢 你看我的修正條文第一 他就把這個比例提高到15但是他的使用用途限制盡量讓園區的土地不要發出售給外面的人蓋住宅也不是賣給員工盡量保持在我們的地區裡面 園區裡面解決園區的居住需求 你同不同意 |
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當然委員提案的這個方向如果說我們在一些園區它的面積是大的話其實是有空間是的當然如果不大你這個員工的多園居住需求就要想來員工有三種 |
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我產業進來了我就附近的居民招聘嘛那這些人就是走路或騎機車嘛如果是外縣市的他就怎樣開車嘛或者這邊租房子買房子嘛那移工他就不可能在這邊買房子他一定是希望什麼住宿舍還有沒有其他的需求要滿足來我告訴你來有沒有看到這個破舊的照片 |
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這是辦事之前喉洞內療宅的礦工住宅聽到礦工住宅你有感受到嗎前年的總統大選礦工住宅是不是炒飯店當時那時候開礦公司有給員工土地蓋房子嗎沒有啊員工在那裡住後來有沒有配住土地可以蓋房子很大的問題所以園區開發前原居民被迫遷離有沒有 你知不知道有沒有你有沒有管過台堂 |
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有 你知道台塘很多土地來開發園區我告訴你 很多台塘的土地 原來裡面的佔用因為台塘啊 就是廢下地啊很多是以前的 人家祖先 農民在那裡做事住在廢下地裡面台塘結構後 他們沒有土地所有權後來這個土地開發成園區他們根據原條文 有沒有辦法去要求配購土地來蓋住宅呢現有條文可不可以 |
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現在不行不行嘛所以要想到我們原區的開發這個條例要適用各種的情境所以像這種的原住戶的也應該在外來修董的時候納入你支不支持 |
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這個考量納入啦好 謝謝 往下看現在當然就有這個機制就是說這個流射的這個用地本來就是要為了要可能有一些原始的物物那你條文裡面要把它清楚其實很多人喜歡科學園區科學園區科學園區來 周邊的土地漲如果我這一個住宅的我的房屋稅會提高 |
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但是呢我的孩子想要回來跟我住買不去啦 你也知道這個情況所以我們在修法的時候要考量到園區的開發不是考量到產業的產業用地的需求我再講一個例子很快的時間校內的師生跟校外的社區共用超商有沒有看過在四大陸超商呢一面對學校的師生一面對社區因為寒暑假沒有師生的時候超商經營的下去所以創造三隱 |
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類似這樣的設施就是社區用地可以用的往下看像我們屏東頭前溪產業園區那個部落沒有多餘的地可以做道路但是呢如果園區在擴展的時候呢把道路的需求內外的需求也考量進去因為我們在園區擴建的時候這考量到園區的道路滿足園區廠商的互通沒有想到園區的員工四五千個從外面進來他使用外面周邊社區的道路會不夠啊 |
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可是園區擴充的時候會把周邊的交通工具納進去嗎?沒有我們投錢溪我希望擴區的時候把周邊的地納進去園區做什麼?那公房啊公房我找不出我沒有去租房啊但是你公房蓋進來你可以做道路讓人家出來不用經過古堡、古石窟你現在有沒有看過這樣的想法?有 |
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有嗎 要想辦法解決好 最後我們就說公社應該兼具園區跟周邊社區的需求包括拖鷹 拖幼 活動中心 長照這個時候納入我們園區的開發推動才會順利最後的結論就是一個醫療法人納產狀條例 來 署長 |
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這個有跟你表達過了齁這個是不是你們帶回去研究一下因為目前的醫療財團法人受到很多的限制他們希望能納入慘痛條例二十三條之三把衛生分泌營餘列入檢測項目你們回去研究一下因為主管機關有衛福部好不好 處長可以拿回去研究嗎好 我們拿回去研究好 拜託處長齁把這個問題也帶回去思考一下謝謝 |