| IVOD_ID |
167668 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167668 |
| 日期 |
2026-03-18 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-26-2 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
2 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-03-18T13:27:07+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-03-18T13:34:26+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:19 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/4e26a61b53ad60533ad82143602f9eb518cbbd4f69c426c0ff312b132094bbea45d84521957c0fb45ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
徐富癸 |
| 委員發言時間 |
13:27:07 - 13:34:26 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-03-18T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第2次全體委員會議（事由：邀請衛生福利部部長、勞動部、原住民族委員會、內政部、教育部、行政院人事行政總處、銓敘部及國家衛生研究院，就「如何精進偏鄉醫療與長照資源落差及落實《原住民族健康法》之困境，並對提升原住民族健康權益及強化原鄉照護量能（含提升機關位階與人力配置）」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
【3月18日及3月19日，二天一次會】） |
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謝謝主席 有請我們石部長有請石酬良部長好 習委員好 部長午安首先要先謝謝部長我記得這個上個會期我有特別拜託部長針對我們小琉球跟恆春半島醫療的問題那我想部長也真的用行動力展現所以我們今年 |
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前一兩個月我們跟屏東縣長我們鄒村民縣長跟我們相關的團隊我們到小琉球衛生所那我們也很感謝就是我們也號召了我們小琉球的做醫生的主席能夠返鄉去服務那當然也謝謝部長的媒合我們高屏地區有幾家醫院共同來支援我們小琉球的醫療的問題 |
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那但是這個是一個開頭因為這個小琉球的醫療的問題因為不是只有島上1萬多個居民每一年有超過120萬的遊客所以觀光醫療的問題我們責無旁貸所以有幾個問題還是要請部長來幫忙部長 |
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我想這個目前小琉球衛生所的這個科別也好或是醫師人力確實是比過去充足但是他們現在面臨的問題就是我們現在衛生所的建物輸入已經超過五十年不但是這個結構老舊空間狹小而且還有滲水漏水的問題我想這個對一個整個醫療的環境非常非常的不理想而且我覺得對於這個醫護人員也好跟鄉親的這個安全也造成一個疑慮部長 |
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譬如說縣政府最近會提出一個整建改建的一個計畫部長願不願意來支持這樣的一個計畫我們一起來支持它對不然你不要大用那麼快你覺得要多少錢 |
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不是問題啦現在其實重要的是因為他有這個地理限制嘛那是一個離島啦所以這不是什麼問題我們都已經承諾也在這個蘭嶼也要蓋醫院啦所以我想因為現在他不是只有如果是老舊啊這個衛生所的條件 |
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確實已經超過50年應該要翻新或者是重建的話我們來仔細的評估之後全力支持因為現在琉球衛生所不是只有一個衛生所的規模他目前的這個醫療的量能應該具備一個小型醫院的一個功能 |
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所以我們應該是要把它當作一個醫院的規模來看待因為過去如果發生一些集中症或是不能處理的 要多救五次 去到燈光去到病棟我想我們如果可以就近那邊把這個醫療量能充足的話我想應該是大幅這個可以拯救我們相信的生命的安全你應該支持這個看法啦所以這部分我想我們還是會趕快請縣政府把案子提出來之後請部長來支持啦 |
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第二個這個針對恆春半輛的部分那當然我前陣子也跟我們周縣長去參加了恆旅的一個針對新刀館也好跟尼亞科的一個成果的一個說明那這邊也特別謝謝部長那目前 |
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衛福部我們透過醫學中心支援的部分有核定了14個醫師的名額衡旅4位 衡基5位還有南門5位那其中還有增加一個最重要那個麻醉坡醫師這個部分但是因為目前衡旅有新導管有高壓氧 |
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不然這不可以做一半而已,我想我們最近要導入一個叫做重症低溫的一個照護設備所以我們必須要有這樣的一個急重症的照護體系目前還欠什麼?心臟內科、胸腔科,還有這個急重症病房部長,這也是要你支持的好,支持好齁,這都有用,你要講大聲一點 |
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部長我想這個我們也會請亨利趕快加快來提案我想這個國境之南的醫療就如同委員講的不是只有在地還有每年的 超過四五百萬人對那個觀光的量能很大那所以我們極力的在提升這三家醫院的醫療量能就像委員講我們過去有兩波兩的三個到現在五個一間便宜 |
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然後大家互相分工 現在也組成了一個區域聯防橫履男人 區域聯防三間各自有分工我覺得這個是比過去進步很多了 這是個好的契機但是畢竟橫履是領頭羊的角色因為橫履是我們自己的名義 所以我們責無旁貸所以發展了這些需要發展了這些需要 |
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那最後我還是要幫我們這個第一線的醫護人員來請命啦齁當然因為我們過去的這個醫療的部分醫院負責這個專科跟急重症那衛生所第一線應該是我們鄉親齁暴動企業基層醫療跟日間照護的一個很重要的一個場域但是齁博士你覺得怎麼樣目前衛生所我們的醫師的志願費用每一個整市多少錢三千四百三十五塊 |
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比起一般的市場行情那個盧偉源也是醫生一般行情應該是五千到六千這有相當大的落差耶不然你們從一百零六年到現在十年沒有調整過就對這個醫生情何以堪這不可以調整嗎這個是不是IDS的費用應該是IDS盧偉源是不是這是IDS的支援費用IDS是五千塊那支援費用這個就是公務器官訂的那個 |
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那是公務機關這也太瘦了 因為如果是要去小琉球要坐船要住宿 去恆春寺也要開車靠靠的 因為我們一直在檢討那個IDS的費用會給他今年我們有空間在健保的IDS的話資源那個服務費用會給他提高啦 |
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那我來瞭解一下這個是什麼費用有的是地方核定的就是那個醫師的資源費用那個核定的我來瞭解一下我們要拜託偏鄉離島你收不收一個合理的報酬這對我們也很不公平費用太低了 |
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交洗人家的熱情啊,這樣也不好啦最後我還是要提醒一個事情我知道你很認真,你也很用心我跟你說的事情,你都給我應好但是我更快樂因為你從衛生署到衛福部你歷練了很多重要的主管職務所以整個醫療體系,你都更清楚我是快樂說,你帶行的事情到你下課的時候都不是打折,就是跳票啦 |
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這一點我想要注意一下我們會來追蹤 |
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我跟你談完之後,找你們下面的人,你們下面的人都沒有要認賭啦這點我是真的覺得很生氣啊我相信,我認為,我們是雖然是這麼好的一個感情齁但是我想公事歸公事,你要拿出你做部長的power你既然答應了事情,既然要照顧我們的鄉親就要照顧到,這樣好不好?好,好,謝謝接下來請了解 |
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謝謝主席，有請我們石部長。 |
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主席 |
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2026-03-18T13:27:17.826000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T13:27:21.729000+08:00 |
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有請石崇良部長。 |
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0.857 |
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石部長崇良 |
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2026-03-18T13:27:22.210000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T13:27:22.330000+08:00 |
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徐委員好。 |
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0.75 |
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徐委員富癸 |
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2026-03-18T13:27:23.211000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T13:27:23.491000+08:00 |
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部長午安。 |
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1 |
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徐委員富癸 |
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2026-03-18T13:27:24.532000+08:00 |
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首先要先謝謝部長，我記得上個會期有針對我們小琉球跟恆春半島醫療的問題特別拜託部長，我想部長也真的是用行動力展現，所以今年前一、兩個月，我們跟屏東縣周春米縣長及相關的團隊到了小琉球衛生所，我們也很感謝，就是我們也號召了任職醫生的小琉球子弟能夠返鄉去服務，那當然也謝謝部長的媒合，我們高屏地區有幾家醫院共同來支援我們小琉球的醫療問題。 |
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0.877 |
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徐委員富癸 |
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2026-03-18T13:28:03.179000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T13:28:14.155000+08:00 |
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但這個只是一個開頭，因為這個小琉球的醫療問題不是只針對島上一萬多個居民，另外每一年還有超過120萬的遊客，所以，觀光醫療的問題，我們責無旁貸，因此有幾個問題還是要請部長來幫忙。 |
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0.885 |
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徐委員富癸 |
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2026-03-18T13:28:14.275000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T13:28:47.696000+08:00 |
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部長，我想目前小琉球衛生所的科別或是醫師人力，確實是比過去充足，但是他們現在面臨的問題，就是我們現在衛生所的建物使用已經超過50年了，不但是結構老舊、空間狹小，而且還有滲水、漏水的問題，我想整個醫療的環境非常、非常的不理想，而且我覺得對於醫護人員跟鄉親的安全也造成疑慮啦！ |
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0.967 |
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徐委員富癸 |
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2026-03-18T13:28:47.696000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T13:28:54.962000+08:00 |
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部長，屏東縣政府最近會提出一個整建、改建的計畫，部長願不願意來支持這樣的一個計畫？ |
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0.946 |
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石部長崇良 |
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2026-03-18T13:28:54.962000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T13:28:56.103000+08:00 |
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我們一起來支持它。 |
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1 |
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徐委員富癸 |
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2026-03-18T13:28:57.785000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T13:28:59.086000+08:00 |
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部長，你不要答應得那麼快，你知道這要多少錢嗎？ |
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0.5 |
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石部長崇良 |
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2026-03-18T13:28:59.106000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T13:29:02.657000+08:00 |
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錢不是問題啦！ |
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1 |
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徐委員富癸 |
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2026-03-18T13:29:02.657000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-03-18T13:29:04.739000+08:00 |
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不是問題？ |
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0 |
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石部長崇良 |
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2026-03-18T13:29:04.739000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T13:29:16.030000+08:00 |
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現在其實重要的是它有地理限制，因為那是一個離島，所以這錢不是什麼問題，我們都已經承諾在蘭嶼也要蓋醫院了，所以我想…… |
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0.904 |
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徐委員富癸 |
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2026-03-18T13:29:16.631000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T13:29:17.492000+08:00 |
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部長，因為現在它不是只有…… |
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0.727 |
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石部長崇良 |
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2026-03-18T13:29:17.572000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T13:29:28.420000+08:00 |
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如果是老舊，這個衛生所的條件確實已經超過50年，應該要翻新或者是重建的話，我們來仔細的評估之後，全力支持。 |
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1 |
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徐委員富癸 |
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2026-03-18T13:29:29.021000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T13:29:57.730000+08:00 |
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部長，因為現在琉球衛生所不是只有一個衛生所的規模，它目前的醫療量能應該要具備一個小型醫院的功能，所以我們應該把它當作一個醫院的規模來看待，因為過去如果發生一些急重症或是不能處理，還要坐救護船去屏東東港，我們如果可以就近在那邊讓這個醫療量能充足的話，我想應該是可以大幅拯救我們鄉親的生命安全，你應該支持這個看法啦！ |
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0.864 |
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石部長崇良 |
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2026-03-18T13:29:57.730000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-03-18T13:29:58.730000+08:00 |
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好，支持。 |
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0 |
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徐委員富癸 |
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2026-03-18T13:29:58.570000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T13:30:04.131000+08:00 |
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所以這個部分，我想我們還是會趕快請縣政府把案子提出來之後，請部長來支持。好。 |
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0.941 |
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徐委員富癸 |
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2026-03-18T13:30:06.973000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T13:30:39.744000+08:00 |
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第二個，針對恆春半島的部分，當然我前陣子也跟我們周縣長去參加了恆旅一個針對心導管跟牙科的成果說明會，這邊也特別謝謝部長，目前透過醫學中心支援的部分，衛福部有核定了14個醫師的名額，恆旅4位，恆基5位，還有南門5位，其中還有增加一個最重要的麻醉科醫師部分，但是目前恆旅有心導管、有高壓氧，部長，這不能只做一半而已。 |
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0.861 |
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徐委員富癸 |
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2026-03-18T13:30:39.964000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T13:30:50.074000+08:00 |
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我想我們最近要導入一個叫做重症低溫的照護設備，所以我們必須要有這樣一個急重症的照護體系，目前還缺什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
0.979 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
徐委員富癸 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2026-03-18T13:30:50.074000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T13:30:53.338000+08:00 |
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心臟內科、胸腔科，還有急重症病房。 |
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1 |
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徐委員富癸 |
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2026-03-18T13:30:53.818000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T13:30:54.919000+08:00 |
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部長，這也是需要你支持。 |
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0.9 |
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石部長崇良 |
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2026-03-18T13:30:55.380000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T13:30:56.120000+08:00 |
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好，支持。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
徐委員富癸 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-03-18T13:30:57.342000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T13:30:57.902000+08:00 |
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這都有錄影，你要說大聲一點。有。 |
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0.692 |
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徐委員富癸 |
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2026-03-18T13:31:00.306000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T13:31:02.748000+08:00 |
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部長，我想我們也會請恆旅趕快來提案…… |
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0.875 |
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石部長崇良 |
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2026-03-18T13:31:03.109000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T13:31:09.355000+08:00 |
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我想這個國境之南的醫療，就如同委員講的，不是只有在地，還有每年…… |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
徐委員富癸 |
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2026-03-18T13:31:09.675000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T13:31:10.316000+08:00 |
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超過四、五百萬人。 |
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1 |
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石部長崇良 |
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2026-03-18T13:31:10.596000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T13:31:29.274000+08:00 |
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對，那個觀光的量能很大，所以我們極力地在提升這三家醫院的醫療量能，就像委員講的，我們從過去的一間醫院補兩個、三個到現在的五個，然後大家互相分工，現在也組成了一個區域聯防。 |
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0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
徐委員富癸 |
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2026-03-18T13:31:29.274000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-03-18T13:31:30.955000+08:00 |
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恆旅、南門跟恆基，對，就是區域聯防 。 |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
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2026-03-18T13:31:30.955000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T13:31:38.460000+08:00 |
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區域聯防，三家各自有分工，我覺得這個是比過去進步很多了，這是一個好的契機，我們…… |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
0.886 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
徐委員富癸 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-03-18T13:31:38.460000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T13:31:40.182000+08:00 |
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但是畢竟恆旅是領頭羊的角色…… |
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0.846 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
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2026-03-18T13:31:40.602000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T13:31:44.324000+08:00 |
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因為恆旅是我們自己的醫院，所以我們責無旁貸…… |
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0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
徐委員富癸 |
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2026-03-18T13:31:44.324000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-03-18T13:31:49.828000+08:00 |
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所以你要給它更多的醫療量能，它才有辦法做領頭羊。好。 |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
0.13 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
徐委員富癸 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-03-18T13:31:49.828000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T13:31:52.549000+08:00 |
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最後我還是要幫我們第一線的醫護人員來請命！ |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
徐委員富癸 |
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2026-03-18T13:31:53.589000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T13:32:04.813000+08:00 |
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當然，因為我們過去的醫療部分，醫院負責專科跟急重症，第一線的衛生所應該是我們鄉親平常的基層醫療跟日間照護很重要的一個場域。 |
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0.877 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
徐委員富癸 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-03-18T13:32:05.333000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-03-18T13:32:06.493000+08:00 |
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但是，部長，你知道嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0.375 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
徐委員富癸 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-03-18T13:32:07.474000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2026-03-18T13:32:12.755000+08:00 |
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目前我們衛生所醫師的支援費用，每一個診是多少錢？ |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.727 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
徐委員富癸 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-03-18T13:32:17.482000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2026-03-18T13:32:21.963000+08:00 |
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3,435元，盧委員也是醫生，一般行情應該是5,000到6,000，比起一般的市場行情，兩者有相當大的落差。 |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0.541 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
徐委員富癸 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-03-18T13:32:23.864000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T13:32:28.885000+08:00 |
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部長，從106年到現在，10年沒有調整過，這對這些醫生情何以堪？ |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0.826 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
徐委員富癸 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-03-18T13:32:29.945000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2026-03-18T13:32:31.505000+08:00 |
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部長，這可以調整嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-03-18T13:32:31.505000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2026-03-18T13:32:32.926000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
這個是不是IDS的費用？ |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-03-18T13:32:33.886000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2026-03-18T13:32:34.926000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
應該是IDS。 |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
徐委員富癸 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-03-18T13:32:34.926000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-03-18T13:32:35.926000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
但是這樣也不夠啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-03-18T13:32:35.006000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2026-03-18T13:32:37.346000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
盧委員，這是不是IDS的？ |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0.727 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-03-18T13:32:38.227000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2026-03-18T13:32:41.027000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
這是支援費用，IDS是5,000塊。 |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-03-18T13:32:41.027000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2026-03-18T13:32:47.072000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
那支援費用就是公務機關訂的…… |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
0.846 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
徐委員富癸 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-03-18T13:32:47.072000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2026-03-18T13:32:48.654000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
這也太便宜了。 |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-03-18T13:32:48.654000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2026-03-18T13:32:49.654000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
太便宜。 |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
徐委員富癸 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-03-18T13:32:49.154000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-03-18T13:32:54.579000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
像有的人如果是去小琉球，要坐船、要住宿；去恆春，自己也要開車，費用扣一扣，賺的都沒了。 |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
0.583 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2026-03-18T13:32:55.380000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2026-03-18T13:33:06.150000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
因為我們一直在檢討那個IDS的費用，今年我們有空間，在健保的IDS的話，服務費用會予以提高。 |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
0.952 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2026-03-18T13:33:06.730000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2026-03-18T13:33:16.114000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
那我來了解一下這個是什麼費用，有的是地方核定的，就是核定那個醫師的支援費用的部分，我來了解一下，確實應該要提升。 |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0.706 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
徐委員富癸 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2026-03-18T13:33:16.534000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2026-03-18T13:33:18.695000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
對，部長，我們要拜託人家去偏鄉離島，卻沒有給他一個合理的報酬，這對人家也很不公平。 |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
0.639 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2026-03-18T13:33:19.095000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2026-03-18T13:33:19.555000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
要，這個費用太低啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
徐委員富癸 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2026-03-18T13:33:27.359000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2026-03-18T13:33:28.980000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
也會澆熄人家的熱情，這樣也不好啦！是、是。 |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
0.647 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
徐委員富癸 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2026-03-18T13:33:30.521000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2026-03-18T13:33:37.706000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
好，最後我還是要提醒一個事情，我知道你很認真、也很用心，我跟你說的事情，你也都給我回應說：好。 |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
徐委員富癸 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2026-03-18T13:33:38.306000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2026-03-18T13:33:53.837000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
但是我很擔心，因為你從衛生署到衛福部，歷練了很多重要的主管職務，所以整個醫療體系你都很清楚，我是擔心說你答應的事情到了你們下面的時候，不是打折就是跳票啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
0.845 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
徐委員富癸 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2026-03-18T13:33:55.300000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2026-03-18T13:33:56.285000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
關於這一點，我想你要注意一下。 |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
0.769 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2026-03-18T13:33:56.707000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2026-03-18T13:33:56.848000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
好，我們會來追蹤。 |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
徐委員富癸 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2026-03-18T13:33:59.148000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2026-03-18T13:34:05.172000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
我跟你談完之後，再去找你們下面的人，你們下面的人都沒有要認帳，這點我是真的很生氣啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
0.895 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2026-03-18T13:34:05.172000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2026-03-18T13:34:07.574000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
我再跟委員了解。 |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
0.143 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
徐委員富癸 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2026-03-18T13:34:07.574000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2026-03-18T13:34:17.620000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
部長，我們雖然感情這麼好，但公事歸公事，你要拿出你做部長的power，你既然答應這些事，既然要照顧我們的鄉親，就要做到。 |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
0.868 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
徐委員富癸 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2026-03-18T13:34:17.721000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2026-03-18T13:34:17.941000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
這樣好不好？是。 |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
徐委員富癸 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2026-03-18T13:34:17.941000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2026-03-18T13:34:18.941000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
不要放任下面的人胡搞瞎搞。 |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
石部長崇良 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2026-03-18T13:34:18.941000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2026-03-18T13:34:19.941000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
好，我來了解。 |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
0.2 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
徐委員富癸 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2026-03-18T13:34:18.141000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2026-03-18T13:34:18.501000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].text |
好，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2026-03-18T13:34:18.501000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2026-03-18T13:34:19.501000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].text |
謝謝徐富癸委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2026-03-18T13:34:18.501000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2026-03-18T13:34:18.781000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].text |
接下來請劉建國委員發言。 |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
0.364 |