| IVOD_ID |
167658 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167658 |
| 日期 |
2026-03-18 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-19-3 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
3 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-03-18T12:33:47+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-03-18T12:41:24+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:37 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/4e26a61b53ad60533fd81a7d23a9e848f85a32efe0b6ef7a997b7b3c5b8577b3f0c0b32b082070385ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
洪孟楷 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:33:47 - 12:41:24 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-03-18T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第3次全體委員會議（事由：邀請農業部部長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。） |
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主席謝謝,麻煩請陳部長請農業部陳部長 |
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好 部長好 部長 來就教一下 因為動保法本身也非常的關心喔那到目前為止 現在我們行政院願會通過我們農業部的版本了嗎欸 動保在上個會期已經開始逐條審查但是審到第二 已經進到立法院了那因為裡面有一些條文 特別是禁止餵養這件事情喔有一些沒有共識嘛 |
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所以我們在這邊協商了兩次我們印象中兩次所以我們現在就是說在跟委員溝通那我們是期待就是說因為裡面有很多重要的條文包括這些動保檢查員賦予行政權利還有一些事主責任的部分能夠把 |
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沒有共識的我們先擱一邊擱一邊的話讓這個法能夠順利的過了以後至少往前走一步啦那這個部分我想我們會跟在跟所有的委員跟利害關係團體來做溝通權益持續提升重點是來保護保障動物的權利跟福利嘛那以及跟我們社會能夠更共融對所以 |
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本事業針對這個凍檢員的一個部分凍檢員真的是至關重要那我們絕對是要用比較好的一個待遇至少讓他不會說人才一直流失因為其實各縣市政府已經有這樣的一個狀況 |
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我們有沒有掌握到目前為止各縣市政府洞檢員流失的比例現在目前當然我先不講洞檢員包括我們畜牧師我們畜牧師是大量流失這個轉換至少三分之一 |
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所以包括第一線的凍結員更困難所以我現在就是想辦法讓他們的薪水可以提升那唯一可以提升的就是用專業家籍那專業家籍的部分我想我會在就是在這次修法的部分沒有 修法不能薪水不能放在修法裡面我們會另外處理包括我們處理受益不開業獎金什麼時候可以處理因為 |
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錢不是農業部要編因為這牽涉到全台灣的所以一定會先跟人種去做一個溝通然後把他的專業佳績表適用的專業佳績表做改變那一旦改變了以後就有機會啦這個我們會來努力 |
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部長你這樣講是你知道問題本身也點出問題很嚴峻本身掌握狀況也是如此啊尤其我們新北市也有相關你說像獸醫師幾乎大家沒有人來沒有人願意來是我跟委員報告齁那總不能一直要大家做功德吧我知道我舉個例子我們的房檢署 |
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我們過去職務的都領表二餒我花了大概一年多快兩年的時間才變成表十因為他沒那麼容易因為不是我能夠決定的我必須去說服我們的人總相關的單位說他是值得領這樣的一個專業家籍部長說實在話 |
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你這一些部分我們都理解這也是為什麼我今天在用我們質詢時間再一次點出這個問題就是要農業部能夠更積極嘛那你跟人種要溝通說實在話不然就帶上我們民意代表一起去吧要不要 最好好啊來你這樣安排來農業部部長我現在承諾你農業部部長什麼時候來下個禮拜我們就約時間因為我不想要不是不是耍嘴皮 |
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也不是開玩笑而是說我今天看到問題了那我也想是說如果修法能解決我們的責任但現在也不是修法的問題現在是你人種那等於是一個大水庫的部分那當然大水庫所有行政單位我也可以理解啊行政單位一定每個人都叫沒錢每個人都叫沒人啊那但是就是要看是說哪一個部分嚴重那我至少我了解地方政府的需求是 |
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這個獸醫動檢員相關這部分確實因為他的職等又低他的薪水又少然後他的責任又重所以他相比其他又會更人才更流失他就直接雙手在那邊講說我去外面開個診所比我在拿公家機關的那個獸醫師來的待遇好很多啊還不用24小時On call |
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我跟委員報告在去年處理非洲豬瘟的時候各縣市的動保跟防檢的人士一起來努力的所以這兩個人都有缺所以我也跟人總已經談過了我現在就在規劃裡面他們的論述啦那論述如果我相信在這一兩個禮拜完成以後你們每個禮拜四都有行政院會嘛行政院會不是只是聽行政院長在那邊上 |
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這個指導期那有些時候你部長一字排開的時候禮拜四行政院會你也可以提出啊讓院長來裁決啊哪一個部會勇於發聲你發的聲音就是為基層發聲部會勇於發聲行政院長有聽到才了解其實人種其實對我們農業領域的這些人的爭取是一直非常幫忙的啦 |
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所以我們必須要好的路數因為你剛剛的講法也沒有讓大家感受到所以來部長因為我還有另外一個議題我知道我只想是說我剛剛我的承諾不是開玩笑行政立法可以一起有要約人總我們一起去最好我們招委一起上我們來努力但是我要的是看到具體的進度不是我下一次再質詢的時候不知道什麼時候您下次再來但不要下次再質詢問一樣議題然後一樣的回答 |
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過一年一樣的回答 過兩年一樣的回答辛苦的是基層 好不好來 部長 另外一個議題 因為朝偉已經站起來本期選區 好 沒有問題 謝謝本期選區 漁人碼頭 這個算漁業處的議題那 來 簡單講 三年前新北市府有一個計畫是希望漁人碼頭能夠做一些改造跟活化 因為 |
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生活情勢不同第一我們當地的漁民其實真的是越來越少而且漁民的二代也都不願意不太願意接這個漁民工作因為不容易那可能用其他的工作考量第二當地的漁會很支持希望是說漁人碼頭有更多的活化因為漁人碼頭他有很多觀光的需求以及這個國外旅客還有第三新北市府整體的規劃包括整個北海岸的一個延伸但三年前到之後申請是被打回票 |
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就是說不同意這個漁人碼頭去做其他這個多複合使用那我現在講的是說能不能再針對這部分因為今年有一個重點是我們淡江大橋5月12通車那未來對北海岸的觀光交通也會有更大的一個注意那漁人碼頭勢必也會有再討論的空間能不能讓新北市府讓漁業處這邊能夠有一個怎麼樣的想法來進一步再來討論因為徐副委員一直等啊 |
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我非常同意我會後會請漁業署跟新北市政府來溝通然後重啟這樣子的一個規劃看看說有沒有一些空間可以來處理該新北市府做的申請的新北市府申請但是希望我們漁業署這邊能夠秉持比較開放的一個心胸因為畢竟真的南北差異差很多那還有就是說當地的民眾其實也對於這有期待是不是順便答問一個訪問員好感謝謝謝昭偉今天非常趕時間謝謝你要一分鐘 |
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2026-03-18T12:33:47.827000+08:00 |
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麻煩請陳部長。 |
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1 |
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主席 |
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2026-03-18T12:33:47.827000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T12:33:47.927000+08:00 |
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請農業部陳部長。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[3].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
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2026-03-18T12:34:08.431000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T12:34:08.431000+08:00 |
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委員好。 |
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0.333 |
| transcript.gazette[4].speaker |
洪委員孟楷 |
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2026-03-18T12:34:08.571000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T12:34:08.791000+08:00 |
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部長好。 |
| transcript.gazette[4].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[5].speaker |
洪委員孟楷 |
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2026-03-18T12:34:09.092000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T12:34:18.078000+08:00 |
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部長，我來就教一下，因為動保法本席也非常關心，到目前為止，行政院院會通過農業部的版本了嗎？ |
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0.925 |
| transcript.gazette[6].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[6].start |
2026-03-18T12:34:18.078000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[6].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[6].end |
2026-03-18T12:34:23.483000+08:00 |
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動保法在上個會期已經開始逐條審查，但是審到…… |
| transcript.gazette[6].quality |
0.95 |
| transcript.gazette[7].speaker |
洪委員孟楷 |
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2026-03-18T12:34:23.483000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[7].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[7].end |
2026-03-18T12:34:25.064000+08:00 |
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我知道啊！但是…… |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[8].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
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2026-03-18T12:34:25.064000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T12:34:33.990000+08:00 |
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已經進到立法院了，因為裡面有一些條文，特別是禁止餵養的部分有一些沒有共識，我們也開始啟動…… |
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0.756 |
| transcript.gazette[9].speaker |
洪委員孟楷 |
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2026-03-18T12:34:35.691000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[9].end |
2026-03-18T12:34:39.033000+08:00 |
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我們在這邊協商了兩次，我印象中兩次，到最後還是…… |
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0.762 |
| transcript.gazette[10].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
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2026-03-18T12:34:39.633000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[10].end |
2026-03-18T12:34:50.937000+08:00 |
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所以我們現在就是再跟委員溝通，因為裡面有很多重要的條文，包括賦予動保檢查員行政權力，還有飼主責任的部分。 |
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0.896 |
| transcript.gazette[11].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
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2026-03-18T12:34:51.418000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T12:35:02.971000+08:00 |
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我們期待能夠把沒有共識的先擱一邊，讓這個法能夠先順利通過，至少往前走一步啦，這個部分我們會再跟所有委員及利害關係團體做溝通。 |
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0.862 |
| transcript.gazette[12].speaker |
洪委員孟楷 |
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2026-03-18T12:35:03.491000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[12].end |
2026-03-18T12:35:11.461000+08:00 |
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權益持續提升，重點是保護、保障動物的權利跟福利，以及跟我們的社會能夠更共榮。對。 |
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0.943 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
洪委員孟楷 |
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2026-03-18T12:35:13.842000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[13].end |
2026-03-18T12:35:24.650000+08:00 |
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針對動檢員的部分，本席認為動檢員真的是至關重要，我們絕對是要用比較好的待遇，至少不會讓人才一直流失，因為其實各縣市政府已經有這樣的狀況了。 |
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0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
洪委員孟楷 |
| transcript.gazette[14].start |
2026-03-18T12:35:27.091000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[14].end |
2026-03-18T12:35:31.754000+08:00 |
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你們有沒有掌握到目前為止各縣市政府動檢員的流失比例？ |
| transcript.gazette[14].quality |
0.88 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[15].start |
2026-03-18T12:35:35.056000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[15].end |
2026-03-18T12:35:37.957000+08:00 |
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我先不講動檢員，包括我們畜牧司，我們畜牧司這一、兩年…… |
| transcript.gazette[15].quality |
0.696 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
洪委員孟楷 |
| transcript.gazette[16].start |
2026-03-18T12:35:38.138000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[16].end |
2026-03-18T12:35:41.740000+08:00 |
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是大量流失，是不是？ |
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0.625 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2026-03-18T12:35:42.080000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[17].end |
2026-03-18T12:35:47.083000+08:00 |
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轉換的至少三分之一，所以第一線的動檢員更困難。 |
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0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2026-03-18T12:35:48.084000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2026-03-18T12:35:58.071000+08:00 |
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我現在就是想辦法讓他們的薪水可以提升，唯一可以提升的就是用專業加給，專業加給的部分，我會再請…… |
| transcript.gazette[18].quality |
0.86 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
洪委員孟楷 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2026-03-18T12:35:58.231000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2026-03-18T12:35:59.652000+08:00 |
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就是在這次修法的部分？ |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2026-03-18T12:35:59.973000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2026-03-18T12:36:06.317000+08:00 |
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沒有，薪水不能放在修法裡面，我們會另外處理，包括我們處理獸醫師不開業獎金…… |
| transcript.gazette[20].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
洪委員孟楷 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2026-03-18T12:36:06.457000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2026-03-18T12:36:06.737000+08:00 |
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那你什麼時候可以處理？ |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2026-03-18T12:36:07.038000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2026-03-18T12:36:23.937000+08:00 |
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因為錢不是農業部要編的，這牽涉到全臺灣，所以一定會先跟人總去做個溝通，然後把他適用的專業加給表做改變，一旦改變了以後就有機會，這個我們會來努力。 |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
0.939 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
洪委員孟楷 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-03-18T12:36:25.151000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2026-03-18T12:36:37.785000+08:00 |
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部長，你這樣講是你知道問題，本席也點出問題很嚴峻，本席掌握的狀況也是如此，尤其我們新北市也有相關，像獸醫師，幾乎沒有人來，沒有人願意來。 |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
0.95 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
洪委員孟楷 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2026-03-18T12:36:40.208000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2026-03-18T12:36:42.010000+08:00 |
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總不能一直要大家做功德吧？ |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2026-03-18T12:36:42.951000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2026-03-18T12:37:00.348000+08:00 |
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我知道，我舉一個例子，我們的防檢署過去職務都領表二，我花了大概一年多快兩年的時間才變成表十，這個沒那麼容易，因為不是我能夠決定的，我必須說服人總的相關單位說他是值得領這樣一個專業加給。 |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
0.918 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
洪委員孟楷 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-03-18T12:37:00.588000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2026-03-18T12:37:12.218000+08:00 |
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部長，說實在話，這些部分我們都理解，這也是為什麼我今天用我的質詢時間再一次點出這個問題，就是要農業部能夠更積極嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
0.981 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
洪委員孟楷 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2026-03-18T12:37:12.839000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2026-03-18T12:37:18.043000+08:00 |
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你要跟人總溝通，說實在話，不然就帶上我們民意代表一起去吧，要不要？ |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
0.931 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-03-18T12:37:18.163000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2026-03-18T12:37:18.303000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].text |
這樣最好。 |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
洪委員孟楷 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-03-18T12:37:18.803000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2026-03-18T12:37:20.525000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].text |
好啊，你去安排。 |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
洪委員孟楷 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-03-18T12:37:21.706000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2026-03-18T12:37:35.438000+08:00 |
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農業部部長，我現在承諾你，看農業部部長什麼時候要去談，下個禮拜我們就約時間，因為我不想要……不是耍嘴皮，也不是開玩笑，而是說我今天看到問題了，我會想說如果修法能解決的就是我們的責任。 |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
0.901 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
洪委員孟楷 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-03-18T12:37:35.878000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2026-03-18T12:37:39.302000+08:00 |
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但現在也不是修法的問題，現在是人總……那等於是一個大水庫。 |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0.96 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
洪委員孟楷 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-03-18T12:37:40.223000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2026-03-18T12:37:49.391000+08:00 |
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當然，大水庫牽涉到所有行政單位，這我也可以理解，行政單位一定每個都在叫沒錢沒人，但是就要看哪一個部分比較嚴重！ |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
0.86 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
洪委員孟楷 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-03-18T12:37:50.212000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2026-03-18T12:38:06.052000+08:00 |
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至少我瞭解地方政府的需求是獸醫、動檢員的相關部分確實因為職等低、薪水少而責任又重，所以相比其他才會人才更流失！ |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
0.922 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
洪委員孟楷 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-03-18T12:38:07.333000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2026-03-18T12:38:17.739000+08:00 |
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他直接就雙手一攤說，去外面開一個診所比拿公家機關獸醫師的待遇好很多，還不用24小時on call。 |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0.884 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
洪委員孟楷 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-03-18T12:38:17.739000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-03-18T12:38:18.859000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
部長，所以…… |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-03-18T12:38:18.859000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2026-03-18T12:38:36.970000+08:00 |
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我跟委員報告，去年處理非洲豬瘟的時候，各縣市的動保跟防檢的人是一起來努力的，這兩個部分的人員都有缺，我也已經跟人總談過了，我現在正在規劃他們的論述，這個論述如果在這一兩個禮拜完成以後…… |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.882 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
洪委員孟楷 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-03-18T12:38:37.831000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2026-03-18T12:38:52.619000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
你們每個禮拜四都有行政院會，行政院會不是只是聽行政院長在那邊下指導棋，部長一字排開的時候，禮拜四的行政院會你也可以提出，讓院長來裁決！ |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0.952 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
洪委員孟楷 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-03-18T12:38:53.620000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2026-03-18T12:39:01.844000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
哪一個部會勇於發聲，你發的聲音就是為基層發聲；部會勇於發聲，行政院長有聽到才會瞭解。 |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0.947 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-03-18T12:39:01.984000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2026-03-18T12:39:08.307000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
跟委員報告，其實人總對我們農業領域的這些人員的爭取一直非常幫忙，所以我們必須要…… |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0.811 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
洪委員孟楷 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-03-18T12:39:08.307000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2026-03-18T12:39:09.307000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
我感受不到！ |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-03-18T12:39:09.307000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2026-03-18T12:39:10.307000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
沒有，要有好的論述啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.222 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
洪委員孟楷 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-03-18T12:39:09.867000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-03-18T12:39:11.828000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
因為你剛剛的講法也沒有讓大家感受到。 |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
洪委員孟楷 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-03-18T12:39:12.608000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2026-03-18T12:39:23.450000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
部長，因為我還有另外一個議題，我只是講說我剛剛的承諾不是開玩笑，行政立法可以一起，有要約人總，我們一起去，最好連召委也一起上。 |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-03-18T12:39:23.670000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2026-03-18T12:39:24.130000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
我們來努力。 |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
洪委員孟楷 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-03-18T12:39:24.250000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2026-03-18T12:39:30.771000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
但是我要的是看到具體的進度，不是我下一次再質詢的時候……不知道你下次什麼時候再來？ |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
0.919 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
洪委員孟楷 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-03-18T12:39:30.771000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2026-03-18T12:39:32.112000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
但不要下次我質詢的時候又問一樣的議題，然後一樣的回答！ |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0.76 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
洪委員孟楷 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-03-18T12:39:34.612000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2026-03-18T12:39:39.437000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
過一年一樣的回答，過兩年一樣的回答，這樣辛苦的是基層，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
0.926 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-03-18T12:39:39.437000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-03-18T12:39:40.558000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
我瞭解，但是…… |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
洪委員孟楷 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2026-03-18T12:39:40.558000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2026-03-18T12:39:45.082000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
部長，另外一個議題，因為召委已經站起來，本席選區……1分鐘。 |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
0.783 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
洪委員孟楷 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2026-03-18T12:39:45.082000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2026-03-18T12:39:46.584000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
好，沒有問題，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
洪委員孟楷 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2026-03-18T12:39:46.584000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2026-03-18T12:39:51.329000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
本席選區的漁人碼頭，這個算漁業署的議題。 |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
洪委員孟楷 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2026-03-18T12:39:53.210000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2026-03-18T12:40:11.533000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
簡單講，3年前新北市府有一個計畫，希望漁人碼頭能夠做一些改造跟活化，因為生活情勢不同，第一，當地的漁民其實真的是越來越少，而且漁民的二代也都不太願意接漁民工作，因為不容易，可能有其他的工作考量。 |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
0.989 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
洪委員孟楷 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2026-03-18T12:40:11.713000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2026-03-18T12:40:20.315000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
第二，當地的漁會很支持，希望漁人碼頭有更多的活化，因為漁人碼頭有很多觀光的需求以及國外旅客。 |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
洪委員孟楷 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2026-03-18T12:40:20.896000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2026-03-18T12:40:33+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
第三，新北市府整體的規劃，包括整個北海岸的延伸，但3年前申請被打回票，不同意漁人碼頭去做其他多複合使用。 |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
洪委員孟楷 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2026-03-18T12:40:33.600000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2026-03-18T12:40:48.447000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
我現在講的是能不能再針對這部分……因為今年有一個重點，我們淡江大橋5月12日通車，未來對北海岸的觀光交通也會有更大的助益，漁人碼頭勢必也會有再討論的空間。 |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
0.956 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
洪委員孟楷 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2026-03-18T12:40:48.447000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2026-03-18T12:40:50.288000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
能不能讓新北市府漁業處能夠有一個怎麼樣的想法，進一步再來討論？ |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2026-03-18T12:40:50.288000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2026-03-18T12:40:51.228000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
因為徐富癸委員一直等。 |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2026-03-18T12:40:56.171000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2026-03-18T12:41:04.237000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
我會後請漁業署跟新北市政府來溝通，然後重啟這樣子的規劃，看看有沒有一些空間可以來處理。 |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
洪委員孟楷 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2026-03-18T12:41:04.717000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2026-03-18T12:41:14.485000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
該新北市府做的、申請的，由新北市府申請，但是希望漁業署能夠秉持比較開放的心胸，因為畢竟真的南北差異差很多。好…… |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
0.959 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
洪委員孟楷 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2026-03-18T12:41:15.186000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2026-03-18T12:41:17.828000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
還有當地的民眾其實也對這有期待，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2026-03-18T12:41:18.048000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2026-03-18T12:41:19.769000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
好，是不是書面答復洪委員？ |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
0.455 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
洪委員孟楷 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2026-03-18T12:41:19.769000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2026-03-18T12:41:23.852000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
好，感謝，謝謝召委，今天非常趕時間，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2026-03-18T12:41:23.852000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2026-03-18T12:41:24.353000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
你要1分鐘，我給你3分鐘。謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
0.364 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2026-03-18T12:41:24.853000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2026-03-18T12:41:26.281571+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].text |
好，部長回座。 |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2026-03-18T12:41:26.581571+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2026-03-18T12:41:29.724429+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].text |
下一位質詢請徐富癸委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
0 |