| IVOD_ID |
167640 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167640 |
| 日期 |
2026-03-18 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-22-2 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
2 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
22 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
教育及文化委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-03-18T11:48:39+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-03-18T12:05:33+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:16:54 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/4e26a61b53ad6053a15c53e7cebdca9ed268b4a161496bd9997b7b3c5b8577b3d354354e2f17e0785ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
羅廷瑋 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:48:39 - 12:05:33 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-03-18T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第2次全體委員會議（事由：一、 邀請核能安全委員會主任委員陳明真列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。
二、 邀請核能安全委員會、經濟部、台灣電力股份有限公司就「我國核電廠再運轉之規劃及推動現況」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
【3月18日及19日二天一次會】） |
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好謝謝有請陳主委經濟部台電謝謝好請以上三個機關代表上台謝謝 |
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好 先跟經濟部來做一個溝通我想剛剛其他的委員對於這個統裝瓦斯漲價的部分非常關心本行業應該要為基層百姓來發聲我想統裝瓦斯的部分經濟部這邊可不可以幫忙帶入相關的意見穩定相關的物價波動這部分統裝瓦斯漲價是不是能夠幫忙抑制一下經濟部 |
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謝謝委員的指導我會把這個意見交給相關的生產供應公司好好謝謝那另外呢也要再銜接剛剛有一題我們陳主委我們剛剛賴委員其實對於這個賴總統曾經說過這個緊急命令可能會重啟核能來做一個備用那我們先不管這整個過程我想先預設一個立場假設今天 |
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我們因為國際的地緣政治衝突的一個問題導致最後我們真的需要重啟核能瞬間要來這樣子的一個備用機組趕緊頂替上來相關的緊急使用的SOP你們準備好了嗎 |
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因為剛剛都在探討所謂的緊急命令嘛那個要賴總統來宣布嘛我現在就直接問假設今天他真的必須宣布了核能要趕快啟動來接替我們相關不足的部分你們有沒有相關的SOP |
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所有的東西一定要合乎核能安全對我知道我知道你們一定會檢查檢驗嘛在核能安全無疑慮的情況之下才能夠啟動嘛我都知道但是你有沒有這樣子的SOP來應付緊急使用的一個過程不要說到時候賴總統宣布了緊急命令然後結果你們才說喔我來研擬一下SOP |
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現在已經有國際地緣政治的衝突了嘛那我們是不是有這樣的SOP 請回答 |
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跟委員說明喔那如果要緊急使用當然首先當然一開始有說到要有法源依據喔那要緊急使用核能電廠跟一般的發電廠不太一樣因為如果核電廠平常就是台電公司平常要維持設備的可用性那相關的人員的運轉維護能力都要有這我知道最重要的就是核燃料那核燃料要有足夠 |
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那這部分就是事先要準備好所以有沒有SOP啦回答我那安慰本身就有一些管制的程序平常都會有監控住所以如果他緊急要使用的時候你們就會打開這個SOP去跑這個流程平常我們就有一些管制的程序在會去監督他所以你只有管制嘛我現在是說啟動對 本來啟動就有一定的程序在監控所以你可以因應這樣子的狀態 |
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是可以的可是那台電公司就事先都要一些準備作業出來當然嘛他一定會準備不可能說我下一秒緊急啟動你下一秒就開嘛你一定會啟動一個程序然後SOP的檢查然後最後通報無疑慮然後最後再開始重啟核能嘛對不對對吧所以有SOP你要跟社會大眾交代啊我們才不要說到時候遇到了完全沒辦法才來抵定 |
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所以你給我的回應是有SOP編長都會監管著好好謝謝那主委另外一個我想我也一直很關心我們現在福島河廢水排放的一個問題感覺現在也只有我在持續追蹤這個議題那第六次的赴日實地觀察整個完整的報告已經公佈在網站上 |
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這次你也親自出席相關的訪團這次參訪的名稱我們叫做參加第十一屆台日核能管制的資訊交流會議以及核能設施的一個參訪主委請問這一次我們交流的會議及核能的參訪相關的設施針對我國核二核三再運轉你們相關的意見傾向為何 |
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不好意思是沒辦法回答還是我的問題太深報告委員因為這次我們去日本參訪主要是針對這個寒川廢水的議題來進行討論所以我們主委親自出席寒川廢水是一部分嘛再來你也有啊參訪核能設施啊看完別人的核能設施了嘛那你對我國現在核二核三的再運轉有沒有什麼意見啊 |
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我們去參訪福島電廠看看他的這個災後重建的狀況以及寒川廢水我想旅費也花了意見交換了實地現場也看了那總要表態一下和二和三重啟你們是樂觀其成還是有所疑慮 |
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我們會依法安全審查這回應就是太過官腔了主委我就簡單問你我們剛剛說的2025完成了非核家園對不對然後呢現在核核三要重啟叫做新核能 |
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我想先請問一下核二核三重啟大概我們看到龔明新經濟部長有說過大概一年半的時間要整個流程過後請問一下重啟是檢查還是會順便太舊換新換成所謂的新式的核能機組還是原有的核能機組核二核三是原本的核二核三還是新核能是原本的核二核三他不是說新核能所以政府都騙我們這是新核能 |
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合二合三就是合二合三就是原本原汁原味的合二合三嘛 |
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所以我想現在日本目前正在積極的推動受污染的土壤在利用他們設置一個示範工程區其中一半是由正常的土壤來鋪設另外一半是受污染的土壤鋪設並進行相關的觀察還有測試在這一次第六次的一個赴日觀察報告第28頁 |
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我方有提問 民眾對於道路提防示範工程的一個想法 日方回答得很坦白雖然政府努力推動 宣導 驗證 溝通但是民眾接受度仍面臨了不少的挑戰 換句話說就是日本政府承認 |
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福岛相关土壤再利用受到现在整个日本社会还是有很大的疑虑如果连日本人对自己都还有这么多的疑虑我们政府在政策上却一路着急着开放福岛的食品我想真的台湾人啊最该用什么都不怕 |
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報告第29頁也提到訪團第15日傍晚行程結束後有順道在福島周邊海域採集表層的海水樣品有沒有 |
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有的待會台灣來做一個分析海水的穿跟放射性相關的來做檢驗結果顯示啊都在目前福島周邊海域環境活度的變動範圍內我想問一下主委 |
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為什麼只採海水怎麼不順便採一下日本的土壤樣本回來檢測去都去了來都來了尤其土壤才是很多爭議的核心問題而且福島以及周邊地區的農產品是實際有出口到台灣的市面上是有可能已經被民眾吃下肚的你怎麼不順便採集土壤回來檢驗一下 |
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報告委員那主要是我們採海水主要是因應那個日本有針對寒川廢水的排放而且是排放30年所以我們會定期我們會去關切它對於周遭的一個環境的影響所以我們會去採川水那至於委員所說的這個日本進口的食品這邊那因為這個是屬於那個食藥署的一個衛福部食藥署的一個職責食品的部分是食藥署對 |
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我说你既然都去了采集土壤了解一下相关有没有核污染嘛这核安慰稍微了解一下嘛这不应该推给食药署嘛食品完食品我现在是对他们的核污染有没有所谓的污染土土壤的问题那一天你们已经有做土壤污染土的土壤工程防波堤的一个探讨了嘛 |
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對不對就代表說你也關心所謂的污染土相關的示範工程那你怎麼不順便採集污染土呢不要跟我講說食品是食藥署我現在沒跟你講食品的問題跟委員報告一下這一個所謂的一些污染的污染的土壤其實在日本是做一個管制的要符合一些安全標準他們才會試出來去做這些的一個所以你的意思是說他不給你採集的機率很高 |
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對 因為沒有 它就是本身就是一個受管制民眾也不能夠去做一個接觸的所以他們會有一個叫做儲屋中間的儲存設施那其實在剛剛講的那他們都是在做這個沒有嘛 你有沒有試著要採集被拒絕嘛你就回答我嘛還是說你真的沒想到你就直接坦白講 |
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沒有想到因為這一次這個污染的土壤其實是主要是他們日本境內的一個議題所以我們沒關係我尊重你今天我們大膽坦白嘛你沒有想到要採集你剛剛承認嘛那沒有關係我沒有要責備 |
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那是不是未來有第七次的機會第八次的機會來徵詢一下日方的意見我們是不是能夠採集這個土壤的部分來檢驗一下有沒有污染的外溢或者是相關的問題這部分主委你覺得可以嗎 |
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我們會評估一下我希望不要評估啦因為第一除非日方拒絕第二站在我們現在核安會的一個立場我們為什麼要去看川就是我們關心核廢水排放相關的議題嘛那核廢水排放只有所謂的川的議題嗎汙染土也是我們應該關心的所以我要一直在講主委您覺得我今天講的這個議題值不值得您做參考 |
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我們可以做參考了報告第35頁寫得很清楚東京電力每一批LPS的處理水要排放前樣品都會送到大雄分析研究中心做第三方檢驗確認穿以外的其他盒種都有低於排放標準如果分析結果不符合標準 |
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現在大雄分析研究中心檢查分析的流程和儀器狀態必要時會同一批樣品再測一次確認如果復驗之後還是不符合就會立刻通報日本的經產省由經產省再進一步來調查決定後續怎麼處理針對第35頁的內容請問主委 |
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針對復燕之後還是不符合日本經產省其應對措施如何是採取禁止排放批次的處理水還是有什麼樣的作為 |
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報告委員那因為在報告上我們其實是關心的就是等於大酒分析實驗室內部的一個品質保證的一些程序那如果就像委員講的如果今天已經複合又是不合格送到經產省這一邊那我相信因為他們會有一個緊急的停止排放的一些相關的一個措施那這個也是他們的考量的一個點之一好緊急停止排放相關的措施是不是也麻煩你了解一下 |
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相關的流程我們要知道要掌握啊對不對我們不能都永遠相信日方啊台日友好沒有問題啊但面對這些相關的核汙染我們要採取最高原則啊所以主委在報告第21頁日方問我們台灣在海域監測發現異常時怎麼應變我們的答覆是什麼 |
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先確認數據正確性再透過台灣日本交流協會向日方確認有異常排放確認資訊無誤後才提到跨部會平台再由全責機關啟動後續的因應主委請問若發現異常後相關措施第一時間為什麼不是先預警發布通知國內禁食啊 |
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反而是要先向日方來做確認若是藥品發現疑慮食藥署第一時間是先要求下架停用在調查原因我們怎麼會變成反過來問日方這是不是太尊重了不是說要你不尊重我們應該要先以守護食安為第一優先這個流程是不是應該要有所更正更正一下主委 |
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報告委員那就是如果我們有發現確實是在復合之後有異常那我們第一時間一定是資訊公開那後續為什麼我們要去掌握日本的一個排放源頭因為我們知道日本其實跟台灣其實還是有一些距離的就像我們現在在追蹤那個海洋擴散 |
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其實他現在還是以日本本州的東部為主所以在這一段的一個時間我們就會來去跟日方去做整個等於資訊的一個正確的一個查證我承認我們跟日方有一段的距離但是我也要講的是我們應該透過日方 |
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能夠更準確更快速的資料回傳讓我們能夠有所判斷透過台灣日本交流協會轉給日方會不會要有一週兩週的時間還是一個月啊如果日方不回應呢那如果日方只說沒事我們就完全相信是這樣子的機制嗎 |
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所以我還是一再強調台日友好但面對食品安全但面對核污染我們應該是優先保障國人這樣的流程我覺得很接受挑戰所以我希望流程應該要再做相關的檢討不是不相信日方而是我們有沒有機制第一優先把關這部分主委可不可以給我回應一下我們應該回來檢討一下 |
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好 我也見過跨部會還有一些在座討論好 再回覆委員主委 最近何安慧這幾年原子能科普的一個推廣上其實做得不錯所以我想把科普的相關知識科研 |
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成果安全管制的業務結合設計很多互動式的科普遊戲這兩年大型的科普展在雙北雲林新竹把資源帶進到地方讓更多學生家長有機會接觸請問科普展今年有沒有機會辦在台中讓中部的家長學生社會大眾也一樣有近距離接觸原子能科普的機會 |
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我們再批規一下 再恢復台中有科博館 科學園區 大專院校地方百貨公司 大型展演空間過去也多次辦相關的科普活動我想都沒有問題我是最後希望是不是主委能夠承諾一下來到台中我們會補一下好不好再回答哪時候給我回應對不起 最後一個問題哪時候給我回應 |
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哪周啊一个月内一个月内好啊一个月好好谢谢好谢谢 |
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羅委員廷瑋 |
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謝謝。 |
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2026-03-18T11:48:52.824000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[1].text |
請陳主委、經濟部、台電，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[1].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[2].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[2].start |
2026-03-18T11:48:53.285000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[2].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[2].end |
2026-03-18T11:48:55.428000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[2].text |
請以上三個機關代表上臺，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[2].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[3].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[3].start |
2026-03-18T11:49:01.775000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[3].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[3].end |
2026-03-18T11:49:13.678000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[3].text |
先和經濟部做一個溝通，剛剛其他委員對於桶裝瓦斯漲價的部分非常關心，本席也應該為基層百姓發聲。 |
| transcript.gazette[3].quality |
0.907 |
| transcript.gazette[4].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[4].start |
2026-03-18T11:49:14.459000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[4].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[4].end |
2026-03-18T11:49:22.581000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[4].text |
桶裝瓦斯的部分，經濟部可不可以幫忙帶回相關意見，穩定相關的物價波動？ |
| transcript.gazette[4].quality |
0.935 |
| transcript.gazette[5].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[5].start |
2026-03-18T11:49:23.201000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[5].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[5].end |
2026-03-18T11:49:26.322000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[5].text |
桶裝瓦斯漲價這個部分，是不是能夠幫忙抑制一下？ |
| transcript.gazette[5].quality |
0.762 |
| transcript.gazette[6].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[6].start |
2026-03-18T11:49:26.862000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[6].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[6].end |
2026-03-18T11:49:26.862000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[6].text |
請經濟部回應。 |
| transcript.gazette[6].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[7].speaker |
賴次長建信 |
| transcript.gazette[7].start |
2026-03-18T11:49:28.201000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[7].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[7].end |
2026-03-18T11:49:33.562000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[7].text |
謝謝委員的指導，我會把這個意見交給相關的生產供應公司。 |
| transcript.gazette[7].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[8].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[8].start |
2026-03-18T11:49:34.062000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[8].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[8].end |
2026-03-18T11:49:35.343000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[8].text |
好，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[8].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[9].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[9].start |
2026-03-18T11:49:35.643000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[9].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[9].end |
2026-03-18T11:50:13.762000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[9].text |
另外，也是再銜接剛剛的問題，陳主委，賴委員表示賴總統曾經說過，宣布緊急命令時可能會重啟核能備用，我們先不管整個過程，我想先預設一個立場，假設今天我們因為國際地緣政治衝突的問題，導致最後真的需要重啟核能，瞬間以備用機組的方式趕緊頂替上來，相關緊急使用的SOP，你們準備好了嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[9].quality |
0.904 |
| transcript.gazette[10].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[10].start |
2026-03-18T11:50:16.615000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[10].end |
2026-03-18T11:50:33.473000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].text |
因為剛剛都在探討所謂的緊急命令需要賴總統宣布，我現在就直接問，假設今天他真的宣布了，核能要趕快啟動接替不足的部分，你們有沒有相關的SOP？ |
| transcript.gazette[10].quality |
0.984 |
| transcript.gazette[11].speaker |
陳主任委員明真 |
| transcript.gazette[11].start |
2026-03-18T11:50:34.578000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[11].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[11].end |
2026-03-18T11:50:38.601000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[11].text |
所有的重啟一定要符合核能安全，核能安全是…… |
| transcript.gazette[11].quality |
0.579 |
| transcript.gazette[12].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[12].start |
2026-03-18T11:50:39.602000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[12].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[12].end |
2026-03-18T11:50:39.822000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[12].text |
我知道。 |
| transcript.gazette[12].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[13].start |
2026-03-18T11:50:40.282000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[13].end |
2026-03-18T11:50:41.703000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].text |
你們一定會檢查、檢驗嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[13].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[14].start |
2026-03-18T11:50:42.204000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[14].end |
2026-03-18T11:50:47.508000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].text |
在核能安全無疑慮的情況之下才能夠啟動，我都知道。對。 |
| transcript.gazette[14].quality |
0.957 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[15].start |
2026-03-18T11:50:48.068000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[15].end |
2026-03-18T11:50:53.793000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].text |
但是你們有沒有這樣的SOP可以應付緊急使用的過程？ |
| transcript.gazette[15].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[16].start |
2026-03-18T11:50:54.953000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[16].end |
2026-03-18T11:51:01.718000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].text |
不要到時候賴總統宣布緊急命令，結果你們才說要來研擬一下SOP。 |
| transcript.gazette[16].quality |
0.966 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2026-03-18T11:51:03.266000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[17].end |
2026-03-18T11:51:07.884000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].text |
現在已經有國際地緣政治的衝突，我們是不是有這樣的SOP？ |
| transcript.gazette[17].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2026-03-18T11:51:08.045000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2026-03-18T11:51:08.165000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].text |
請回答。 |
| transcript.gazette[18].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
高組長斌 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2026-03-18T11:51:09.978000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2026-03-18T11:51:15.503000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].text |
向委員說明，如果要緊急使用，首先一開始有說到要有法源依據。 |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
0.962 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
高組長斌 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2026-03-18T11:51:16.304000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2026-03-18T11:51:30.556000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].text |
需要緊急使用時，核能電廠和一般的發電廠不太一樣，如果是核電廠，台電公司平常要維持設備的可用性，還有相關人員的運轉維護能力，這些都要有。 |
| transcript.gazette[20].quality |
0.852 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2026-03-18T11:51:30.696000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2026-03-18T11:51:31.296000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].text |
這些我知道。 |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
高組長斌 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2026-03-18T11:51:31.797000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2026-03-18T11:51:38.562000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].text |
最重要的就是核燃料，核燃料要足夠，這部分都是要事先準備好的。 |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-03-18T11:51:38.762000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2026-03-18T11:51:39.862000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].text |
所以有沒有SOP啦？ |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2026-03-18T11:51:40.102000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2026-03-18T11:51:40.323000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].text |
回答我。 |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
高組長斌 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2026-03-18T11:51:40.503000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2026-03-18T11:51:44.505000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].text |
核安會本身就有一些管制的程序，平常都會監控。 |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-03-18T11:51:45.906000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2026-03-18T11:51:49.968000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].text |
所以如果要緊急使用時，你們就會打開這個SOP，把這個流程…… |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
高組長斌 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2026-03-18T11:51:50.028000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2026-03-18T11:51:53.950000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].text |
我們平常就有一些管制的程序，也會去監督它，如果他們有提出來，我們就有…… |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
0.516 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-03-18T11:51:55.511000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2026-03-18T11:51:56.452000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].text |
所以你們只有管制嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-03-18T11:51:56.592000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2026-03-18T11:51:59.113000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].text |
我現在是說啟動。 |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
高組長斌 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-03-18T11:51:59.113000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2026-03-18T11:52:01.395000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].text |
對，本來啟動就有一定的程序在監控。 |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-03-18T11:52:01.595000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2026-03-18T11:52:02.796000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].text |
所以你們可以因應這樣的狀態？ |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
高組長斌 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-03-18T11:52:05.102000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2026-03-18T11:52:08.964000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].text |
是可以的，可是台電公司事先要有一些準備作業。 |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-03-18T11:52:09.285000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2026-03-18T11:52:09.425000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].text |
當然嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-03-18T11:52:09.625000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2026-03-18T11:52:13.068000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].text |
他們一定會準備，不可能這一秒要緊急啟動，你們下一秒就開嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0.846 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-03-18T11:52:13.568000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-03-18T11:52:20.573000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
你們一定會啟動一個程序，進行SOP的檢查，通報無疑慮，最後再開始重啟核能嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0.912 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-03-18T11:52:21.074000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2026-03-18T11:52:22.315000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
對不對？是。對吧？ |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-03-18T11:52:22.695000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2026-03-18T11:52:25.677000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
所以有SOP，你們要向社會大眾交代啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0.882 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-03-18T11:52:26.378000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2026-03-18T11:52:29.760000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
才不會遇到了卻沒有相關辦法，到時候才要擬定。 |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0.35 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-03-18T11:52:30.801000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2026-03-18T11:52:33.702000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
所以你給我的回應是有SOP？ |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
高組長斌 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-03-18T11:52:33.982000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2026-03-18T11:52:35.203000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
平常都會監管。 |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-03-18T11:52:35.983000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2026-03-18T11:52:37.523000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
好，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-03-18T11:52:37.723000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-03-18T11:52:46.526000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
主委，另外一個問題，我一直很關心福島核廢水排放的問題，感覺現在只有我在持續追蹤這個議題。 |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0.925 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-03-18T11:52:46.787000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2026-03-18T11:53:09.112000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
第六次赴日實地觀察的完整報告已經公布在網站上，這次你也親自出席相關的訪團活動，這次參訪的名稱是第11屆臺日核能管制資訊交流會議以及核能設施參訪。 |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0.925 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-03-18T11:53:09.112000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2026-03-18T11:53:20.914000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
主委，請問這次交流會議及參訪核能的相關設施，針對我國核二、核三再運轉，你們的意見傾向為何？ |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0.95 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-03-18T11:53:29.831000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2026-03-18T11:53:32.832000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
不好意思，是沒辦法回答？ |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-03-18T11:53:33.152000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2026-03-18T11:53:34.033000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
還是我的問題太深？ |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
李組長綺思 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-03-18T11:53:35.093000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2026-03-18T11:53:45.276000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
報告委員，因為這次我們去日本參訪，主要是針對含氚廢水的議題進行討論，所以我們主委也親自出席。 |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
李組長綺思 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-03-18T11:53:45.276000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-03-18T11:53:47.137000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
另外就是……對嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2026-03-18T11:53:47.137000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2026-03-18T11:53:56.460000+08:00 |
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含氚廢水是一部分嘛，但你們也有參訪核能設施，看完別人的核能設施，你對我國現在核二、核三再運轉有沒有什麼意見呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2026-03-18T11:53:56.460000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2026-03-18T11:53:58.527000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
表達一下。 |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
李組長綺思 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2026-03-18T11:53:58.527000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T11:54:06.713000+08:00 |
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我們是去參訪福島電廠，看看它的災後重建狀況，以及含氚廢水，我們主要是去看這個。 |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
0.657 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2026-03-18T11:54:07.013000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T11:54:16.520000+08:00 |
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旅費花了，意見交換了，現場也實地去看了，總要表態一下，對於核二、核三重啟，你們是樂觀其成還是有所疑慮？ |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
0.841 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
陳主任委員明真 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2026-03-18T11:54:19.899000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2026-03-18T11:54:22.440000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
我們會依法做安全審查，要經過…… |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
0.692 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2026-03-18T11:54:24.221000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2026-03-18T11:54:26.562000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
這個回應太過官腔了。 |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2026-03-18T11:54:27.182000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2026-03-18T11:54:35.025000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
主委，我簡單問你，我們剛剛說2025年完成了非核家園，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
0.957 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2026-03-18T11:54:35.685000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2026-03-18T11:54:39.047000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
現在核二、核三要重啟，叫做新核能。 |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2026-03-18T11:54:40.209000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T11:54:56.096000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
我想先請問一下，關於核二、核三重啟，經濟部龔明鑫部長說過，整個流程大概需要一年半的時間，請問一下重啟是檢查還是會順便汰舊換新，換成所謂的新式核能機組？ |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
0.809 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2026-03-18T11:54:56.096000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2026-03-18T11:54:57.796000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
還是沿用原有的核能機組？ |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
0.818 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2026-03-18T11:54:57.796000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2026-03-18T11:55:01.198000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
核二、核三是原本的核二、核三還是新核能？ |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
陳主任委員明真 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2026-03-18T11:55:01.878000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2026-03-18T11:55:03.158000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
是原本的核二、核三。 |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2026-03-18T11:55:03.859000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2026-03-18T11:55:04.579000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
不是說新核能？ |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2026-03-18T11:55:06.900000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2026-03-18T11:55:08.681000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
所以是政府騙我們這是新核能。 |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2026-03-18T11:55:10.157000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2026-03-18T11:55:13.970000+08:00 |
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核二、核三就是原本的、原汁原味的核二、核三嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
0.737 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2026-03-18T11:55:16.714000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2026-03-18T11:55:35.081000+08:00 |
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目前日本正在積極推動受污染的土壤再利用，他們設置一個示範工程區，其中一半是用正常的土壤鋪設，另外一半是用受污染的土壤鋪設，並進行相關的觀察和測試。 |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
0.912 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2026-03-18T11:55:35.541000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T11:56:00.084000+08:00 |
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這次第六次赴日觀察報告第28頁，我方有提問民眾對於道路堤防示範工程區的想法，日方回答得很坦白，雖然政府努力推動、宣導、驗證、溝通，但在民眾接受度方面仍面臨不少的挑戰。 |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
0.932 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2026-03-18T11:56:00.084000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
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2026-03-18T11:56:09.353000+08:00 |
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換句話說就是日本政府承認，對於福島相關土壤再利用，現在整個日本社會還是有很大的疑慮。 |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
0.769 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2026-03-18T11:56:10.173000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].guessed |
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2026-03-18T11:56:24.883000+08:00 |
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如果連日本人自己都還有這麼多疑慮，但我們政府在政策上卻急著開放福島的食品，臺灣人「尚蓋勇」，什麼都不怕！ |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
0.652 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[68].start |
2026-03-18T11:56:26.205000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].guessed |
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2026-03-18T11:56:39.783000+08:00 |
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報告第29頁也提到，訪團第15日傍晚行程結束後，順道在福島周邊海域採集表層的海水樣品，有沒有？有的。 |
| transcript.gazette[68].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[69].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[69].start |
2026-03-18T11:56:41.564000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[69].end |
2026-03-18T11:56:54.007000+08:00 |
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帶回臺灣分析、檢驗海水氚和放射性銫，結果顯示都在目前福島周邊海域環境活度的變動範圍內。 |
| transcript.gazette[69].quality |
0.825 |
| transcript.gazette[70].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[70].start |
2026-03-18T11:56:54.007000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[70].end |
2026-03-18T11:56:59.050000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].text |
我想問一下主委，為什麼只採海水？ |
| transcript.gazette[70].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[71].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[71].start |
2026-03-18T11:57:00.090000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[71].end |
2026-03-18T11:57:04.113000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].text |
怎麼不順便採一下日本的土壤樣本回來檢測？ |
| transcript.gazette[71].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[72].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[72].start |
2026-03-18T11:57:04.113000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[72].end |
2026-03-18T11:57:10.898000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].text |
去都去了，來都來了，尤其土壤才是很多爭議的核心問題。 |
| transcript.gazette[72].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[73].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[73].start |
2026-03-18T11:57:10.898000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[73].end |
2026-03-18T11:57:21.585000+08:00 |
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而且福島以及周邊地區的農產品有實際出口到臺灣，可能已經被民眾吃下肚，你們怎麼不順便採集土壤回來檢驗一下？ |
| transcript.gazette[73].quality |
0.959 |
| transcript.gazette[74].speaker |
張組長淑君 |
| transcript.gazette[74].start |
2026-03-18T11:57:25.159000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[74].end |
2026-03-18T11:57:40.987000+08:00 |
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報告委員，我們採海水主要是因應日本針對含氚廢水排放，而且是排放30年，我們會關切它對於周遭環境的影響，所以我們會去採氚水。 |
| transcript.gazette[74].quality |
0.944 |
| transcript.gazette[75].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[75].start |
2026-03-18T11:57:40.987000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[75].end |
2026-03-18T11:57:41.987000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].text |
我知道。 |
| transcript.gazette[75].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[76].speaker |
張組長淑君 |
| transcript.gazette[76].start |
2026-03-18T11:57:41.567000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[76].end |
2026-03-18T11:57:51.032000+08:00 |
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至於委員所說的日本進口食品，因為這是屬於衛福部食藥署的職責，我們是有…… |
| transcript.gazette[76].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[77].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[77].start |
2026-03-18T11:57:51.032000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[77].end |
2026-03-18T11:57:58.275000+08:00 |
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食品的部分是食藥署負責，但我是說，既然你們都去了，也可以採集土壤了解一下有沒有核污染嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[77].quality |
0.7 |
| transcript.gazette[78].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[78].start |
2026-03-18T11:57:59.635000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[78].end |
2026-03-18T11:58:01.196000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].text |
這點核安會要稍微了解一下嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[78].quality |
0.692 |
| transcript.gazette[79].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[79].start |
2026-03-18T11:58:01.676000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[79].end |
2026-03-18T11:58:02.736000+08:00 |
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這部分不應該推給食藥署。 |
| transcript.gazette[79].quality |
0.364 |
| transcript.gazette[80].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[80].start |
2026-03-18T11:58:03.336000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[80].end |
2026-03-18T11:58:09.358000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].text |
食品歸食品，我現在是針對他們的核污染，有沒有所謂的污染土壤問題？ |
| transcript.gazette[80].quality |
0.69 |
| transcript.gazette[81].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[81].start |
2026-03-18T11:58:10.239000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[81].end |
2026-03-18T11:58:17.581000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].text |
那一天你們有對污染土的土壤工程、防波堤進行探討，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[81].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[82].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[82].start |
2026-03-18T11:58:17.721000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[82].end |
2026-03-18T11:58:24.083000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].text |
代表你們也關心所謂的污染土相關示範工程，你們怎麼不順便採集污染土呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[82].quality |
0.938 |
| transcript.gazette[83].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[83].start |
2026-03-18T11:58:25.183000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[83].end |
2026-03-18T11:58:29.684000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].text |
不要跟我說食品是食藥署管的，我現在不是和你講食品的問題。 |
| transcript.gazette[83].quality |
0.808 |
| transcript.gazette[84].speaker |
張組長淑君 |
| transcript.gazette[84].start |
2026-03-18T11:58:31.264000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[84].end |
2026-03-18T11:58:41.246000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].text |
所謂污染的土壤，其實在日本是有管制的，要符合一些安全標準，他們才會釋出做這些再利用。 |
| transcript.gazette[84].quality |
0.868 |
| transcript.gazette[85].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[85].start |
2026-03-18T11:58:41.826000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[85].end |
2026-03-18T11:58:43.947000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].text |
所以你的意思是說，他們不給你們採集的機率很高？ |
| transcript.gazette[85].quality |
0.905 |
| transcript.gazette[86].speaker |
張組長淑君 |
| transcript.gazette[86].start |
2026-03-18T11:58:44.908000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[86].end |
2026-03-18T11:58:54.538000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].text |
沒有，它本身就是受管制的，民眾也不能夠接觸，所以他們會有一個除污的儲存設施。 |
| transcript.gazette[86].quality |
0.912 |
| transcript.gazette[87].speaker |
張組長淑君 |
| transcript.gazette[87].start |
2026-03-18T11:58:55.218000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[87].end |
2026-03-18T11:58:58.082000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].text |
其實剛剛講的，他們都是在做這個…… |
| transcript.gazette[87].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[88].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[88].start |
2026-03-18T11:58:58.782000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[88].end |
2026-03-18T11:59:00.604000+08:00 |
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你們有沒有試著採集卻被拒絕？ |
| transcript.gazette[88].quality |
0.846 |
| transcript.gazette[89].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[89].start |
2026-03-18T11:59:01.605000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[89].end |
2026-03-18T11:59:02.266000+08:00 |
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請你回答我嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[89].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[90].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[90].start |
2026-03-18T11:59:03.027000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[90].end |
2026-03-18T11:59:03.988000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].text |
還是你們真的沒想到？ |
| transcript.gazette[90].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[91].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[91].start |
2026-03-18T11:59:04.568000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[91].end |
2026-03-18T11:59:05.249000+08:00 |
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你直接坦白地講。 |
| transcript.gazette[91].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[92].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[92].start |
2026-03-18T11:59:06.685000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[92].end |
2026-03-18T11:59:07.185000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].text |
是沒有想到？ |
| transcript.gazette[92].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[93].speaker |
張組長淑君 |
| transcript.gazette[93].start |
2026-03-18T11:59:08.087000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[93].end |
2026-03-18T11:59:15.537000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].text |
對，因為這次污染的土壤，主要是日本境內的議題，所以我們這…… |
| transcript.gazette[93].quality |
0.92 |
| transcript.gazette[94].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[94].start |
2026-03-18T11:59:15.537000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[94].end |
2026-03-18T11:59:16.038000+08:00 |
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好，沒關係，我尊重。 |
| transcript.gazette[94].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[95].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[95].start |
2026-03-18T11:59:16.358000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[95].end |
2026-03-18T11:59:18.081000+08:00 |
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今天我們就大膽坦白嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[95].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[96].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[96].start |
2026-03-18T11:59:18.541000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[96].end |
2026-03-18T11:59:20.604000+08:00 |
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你們沒有想到要採集，你剛剛也承認嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[96].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[97].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[97].start |
2026-03-18T11:59:21.185000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[97].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[97].end |
2026-03-18T11:59:22.527000+08:00 |
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沒有關係，我不是要責備。 |
| transcript.gazette[97].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[98].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[98].start |
2026-03-18T11:59:23.929000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[98].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[98].end |
2026-03-18T11:59:37.983000+08:00 |
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但是未來有第七次的機會、第八次的機會，你們可以徵詢一下日方的意見，我們是不是能夠採集土壤檢驗一下，了解有沒有污染外溢或者相關問題。 |
| transcript.gazette[98].quality |
0.883 |
| transcript.gazette[99].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[99].start |
2026-03-18T11:59:38.644000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[99].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[99].end |
2026-03-18T11:59:39.324000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[99].text |
主委，你覺得可以嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[99].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[100].speaker |
陳主任委員明真 |
| transcript.gazette[100].start |
2026-03-18T11:59:41.846000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[100].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[100].end |
2026-03-18T11:59:43.307000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[100].text |
我們會評估一下，評估後再給委員…… |
| transcript.gazette[100].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[101].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[101].start |
2026-03-18T11:59:44.068000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[101].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[101].end |
2026-03-18T11:59:45.189000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[101].text |
我希望不要再評估啦！ |
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0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[102].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[102].start |
2026-03-18T11:59:45.649000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[102].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[102].end |
2026-03-18T11:59:47.691000+08:00 |
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因為第一，除非日方拒絕。 |
| transcript.gazette[102].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[103].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[103].start |
2026-03-18T11:59:47.691000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[103].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[103].end |
2026-03-18T11:59:52.555000+08:00 |
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第二，站在核安會現在的立場，我們為什麼要去看氚？ |
| transcript.gazette[103].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[104].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[104].start |
2026-03-18T11:59:53.816000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[104].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[104].end |
2026-03-18T12:00:02.723000+08:00 |
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就是我們關心核廢水排放相關的議題，核廢水排放只有所謂氚的議題嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[104].quality |
0.967 |
| transcript.gazette[105].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[105].start |
2026-03-18T12:00:02.723000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[105].guessed |
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2026-03-18T12:00:10.549000+08:00 |
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污染土也是我們應該關心的，所以我要一直在講，主委，您覺得我今天講的這個議題值不值得您做參考？ |
| transcript.gazette[105].quality |
0.976 |
| transcript.gazette[106].speaker |
陳主任委員明真 |
| transcript.gazette[106].start |
2026-03-18T12:00:11.537000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[106].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[106].end |
2026-03-18T12:00:12.158000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[106].text |
我們會做參考的。 |
| transcript.gazette[106].quality |
0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[107].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[107].start |
2026-03-18T12:00:14.621000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[107].guessed |
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2026-03-18T12:00:46.665000+08:00 |
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報告第35頁寫得很清楚，東京電力每批次ALPS處理水要排放前，樣品都會送到大熊分析研究中心做第三方檢驗，確認氚以外的其他核種都有低於排放標準，如果分析結果不符合標準，現在大熊分析研究中心檢查分析的流程和儀器狀態必要時會同一批樣品再測一次確認，如果複驗之後還是不符合，就會立刻通報日本經產省，由經產省再進一步調查，決定後續怎麼處理。 |
| transcript.gazette[107].quality |
0.954 |
| transcript.gazette[108].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[108].start |
2026-03-18T12:00:46.685000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[108].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[108].end |
2026-03-18T12:00:59.056000+08:00 |
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針對第35頁的內容，請問主委，複驗之後如果還是不符合，日本經產省應對措施如何？ |
| transcript.gazette[108].quality |
0.879 |
| transcript.gazette[109].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[109].start |
2026-03-18T12:01:00.057000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[109].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[109].end |
2026-03-18T12:01:05.646000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[109].text |
是採取禁止排放批次的處理水，還是有什麼樣的作為？ |
| transcript.gazette[109].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[110].speaker |
張組長淑君 |
| transcript.gazette[110].start |
2026-03-18T12:01:08.692000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[110].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[110].end |
2026-03-18T12:01:32.479000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[110].text |
報告委員，因為在報告上我們其實關心的是大熊分析實驗室內部品質保證的一些程序，就像委員講的，如果已經複驗又是不合格，送到經產省這邊，他們會有一些緊急停止排放的相關措施，這個也是他們的考量點之一。 |
| transcript.gazette[110].quality |
0.966 |
| transcript.gazette[111].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[111].start |
2026-03-18T12:01:33.040000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[111].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[111].end |
2026-03-18T12:01:38.562000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[111].text |
好，緊急停止排放措施是不是也麻煩你了解一下相關的流程？好。 |
| transcript.gazette[111].quality |
0.962 |
| transcript.gazette[112].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[112].start |
2026-03-18T12:01:38.882000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[112].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[112].end |
2026-03-18T12:01:40.003000+08:00 |
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我們要知道、要掌握啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[112].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[113].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[113].start |
2026-03-18T12:01:40.863000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[113].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[113].end |
2026-03-18T12:01:41.464000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[113].text |
對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[113].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[114].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[114].start |
2026-03-18T12:01:41.464000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[114].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[114].end |
2026-03-18T12:01:43.405000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[114].text |
我們不能都永遠相信日方啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[114].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[115].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[115].start |
2026-03-18T12:01:44.126000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[115].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[115].end |
2026-03-18T12:01:51.391000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[115].text |
臺日友好沒有問題，但面對這些相關的核污染，我們要採取最高原則。 |
| transcript.gazette[115].quality |
0.964 |
| transcript.gazette[116].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[116].start |
2026-03-18T12:01:52.892000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[116].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[116].end |
2026-03-18T12:01:57.755000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[116].text |
主委，在報告第21頁，日方問我們，臺灣在海域監測發現異常時怎麼應變？ |
| transcript.gazette[116].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[117].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[117].start |
2026-03-18T12:01:57.755000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[117].guessed |
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2026-03-18T12:02:13.780000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[117].text |
我們的答復是先確認數據正確性，再透過臺灣日本交流協會向日方確認有無異常排放，確認資訊無誤後，才提到跨部會平臺，再由權責機關啟動後續的因應。 |
| transcript.gazette[117].quality |
0.953 |
| transcript.gazette[118].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[118].start |
2026-03-18T12:02:13.780000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[118].guessed |
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2026-03-18T12:02:25.335000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[118].text |
主委，若發現異常後的相關措施，為什麼不是第一時間先預警發布通知國內禁食，反而是要先向日方確認？ |
| transcript.gazette[118].quality |
0.884 |
| transcript.gazette[119].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[119].start |
2026-03-18T12:02:25.335000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[119].guessed |
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2026-03-18T12:02:35.177000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[119].text |
若是藥品發現疑慮，食藥署第一時間是先要求下架停用再調查原因，我們怎麼會變成反過來問日方？ |
| transcript.gazette[119].quality |
0.976 |
| transcript.gazette[120].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[120].start |
2026-03-18T12:02:36.578000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[120].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[120].end |
2026-03-18T12:02:37.878000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[120].text |
這是不是太尊重了？ |
| transcript.gazette[120].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[121].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[121].start |
2026-03-18T12:02:39.678000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[121].guessed |
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2026-03-18T12:02:49.701000+08:00 |
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不是要你不尊重，我們應該要先以守護食安為第一優先，這個流程是不是應該要有所更正一下？主委。 |
| transcript.gazette[121].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[122].speaker |
張組長淑君 |
| transcript.gazette[122].start |
2026-03-18T12:02:51.645000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[122].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[122].end |
2026-03-18T12:03:04.110000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[122].text |
報告委員，如果我們有發現確實是在複核之後有異常，我們第一時間一定是資訊公開，後續為什麼我們要去掌握日本的排放源頭？ |
| transcript.gazette[122].quality |
0.962 |
| transcript.gazette[123].speaker |
張組長淑君 |
| transcript.gazette[123].start |
2026-03-18T12:03:04.110000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[123].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[123].end |
2026-03-18T12:03:21.877000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[123].text |
因為我們知道日本跟臺灣其實還是有一些距離的，就像我們現在在追蹤海洋擴散，其實現在還是以日本本州東部為主，所以在這一段時間，我們就會去跟日方做整個資訊正確的查證。 |
| transcript.gazette[123].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[124].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[124].start |
2026-03-18T12:03:21.877000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[124].guessed |
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2026-03-18T12:03:40.044000+08:00 |
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我承認我們跟日方有一段距離，但是我要講的是，我們應該透過日方能夠更準確、更快速的資料回傳，讓我們能夠有所判斷，透過臺灣日本交流協會轉給日方，會不會要有一週、兩週的時間？ |
| transcript.gazette[124].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[125].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[125].start |
2026-03-18T12:03:40.044000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[125].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[125].end |
2026-03-18T12:03:40.425000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[125].text |
還是一個月？ |
| transcript.gazette[125].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[126].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[126].start |
2026-03-18T12:03:41.185000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[126].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[126].end |
2026-03-18T12:03:42.565000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[126].text |
如果日方不回應呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[126].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[127].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[127].start |
2026-03-18T12:03:43.546000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[127].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[127].end |
2026-03-18T12:03:47.948000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[127].text |
如果日方只說沒事，我們就完全相信，是這樣子的機制嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[127].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[128].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[128].start |
2026-03-18T12:03:49.700000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[128].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[128].end |
2026-03-18T12:04:14.192000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[128].text |
所以我還是一再強調，臺日友好，但面對食品安全、面對核污染，我們應該是優先保障國人，這樣的流程，我覺得很接受挑戰，所以我希望流程應該要再做相關的檢討，不是不相信日方，而是我們有沒有機制第一優先把關？ |
| transcript.gazette[128].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[129].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[129].start |
2026-03-18T12:04:14.192000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[129].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[129].end |
2026-03-18T12:04:16.072000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[129].text |
針對這部分，主委可不可以給我回應一下，我們應該回來檢討一下？ |
| transcript.gazette[129].quality |
0.926 |
| transcript.gazette[130].speaker |
陳主任委員明真 |
| transcript.gazette[130].start |
2026-03-18T12:04:18.406000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[130].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[130].end |
2026-03-18T12:04:23.693000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[130].text |
我們會經過跨部會再討論，然後再回復委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[130].quality |
0.611 |
| transcript.gazette[131].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[131].start |
2026-03-18T12:04:23.693000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[131].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[131].end |
2026-03-18T12:04:48.777000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[131].text |
主委，核安會這幾年在原子能科普推廣上其實做得不錯，所以我想把科普的相關知識、科研成果、安全管制的業務結合，設計很多互動式的科普遊戲，這兩年大型的科普展在雙北、雲林、新竹，把資源帶進地方，讓更多學生、家長有機會接觸。 |
| transcript.gazette[131].quality |
0.968 |
| transcript.gazette[132].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[132].start |
2026-03-18T12:04:48.777000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T12:04:57.483000+08:00 |
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請問科普展今年有沒有機會辦在臺中，讓中部的家長、學生、社會大眾也一樣有近距離接觸原子能科普的機會？ |
| transcript.gazette[132].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[133].speaker |
陳主任委員明真 |
| transcript.gazette[133].start |
2026-03-18T12:05:00.460000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[133].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[133].end |
2026-03-18T12:05:02.981000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[133].text |
我們評估一下再回復委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[133].quality |
0.545 |
| transcript.gazette[134].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[134].start |
2026-03-18T12:05:02.981000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[134].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[134].end |
2026-03-18T12:05:19.568000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[134].text |
臺中有科博館、科學園區、大專院校、地方百貨公司、大型展演空間，過去也多次辦相關的科普活動，我想都沒有問題，我希望是不是主委能夠承諾一下來到臺中？ |
| transcript.gazette[134].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[135].speaker |
陳主任委員明真 |
| transcript.gazette[135].start |
2026-03-18T12:05:20.468000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[135].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[135].end |
2026-03-18T12:05:22.089000+08:00 |
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我們會評估一下，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[135].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[136].speaker |
陳主任委員明真 |
| transcript.gazette[136].start |
2026-03-18T12:05:22.349000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[136].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[136].end |
2026-03-18T12:05:22.649000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[136].text |
再回答委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[136].quality |
0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[137].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[137].start |
2026-03-18T12:05:23.249000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[137].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[137].end |
2026-03-18T12:05:24.170000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[137].text |
哪時候給我回應？ |
| transcript.gazette[137].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[138].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[138].start |
2026-03-18T12:05:24.170000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[138].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[138].end |
2026-03-18T12:05:27.091000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[138].text |
對不起，最後一個問題，哪時候給我回應？ |
| transcript.gazette[138].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[139].speaker |
羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.gazette[139].start |
2026-03-18T12:05:29.277000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[139].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[139].end |
2026-03-18T12:05:29.518000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[139].text |
一個月內？ |
| transcript.gazette[139].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[140].speaker |
陳主任委員明真 |
| transcript.gazette[140].start |
2026-03-18T12:05:30.100000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[140].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[140].end |
2026-03-18T12:05:31.605000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[140].text |
一個月，好。謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[140].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[141].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[141].start |
2026-03-18T12:05:32.105000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[141].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[141].end |
2026-03-18T12:05:36.390714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[141].text |
謝謝羅廷瑋委員的質詢，請官員回座。 |
| transcript.gazette[141].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[142].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[142].start |
2026-03-18T12:05:36.690714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[142].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[142].end |
2026-03-18T12:05:42.690714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[142].text |
接下來是楊瓊瓔委員、楊瓊瓔委員、楊瓊瓔委員不到。 |
| transcript.gazette[142].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[143].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[143].start |
2026-03-18T12:05:42.990714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[143].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[143].end |
2026-03-18T12:05:49.562143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[143].text |
接下來是伍麗華，這裡宣布由蔡春綢委員代理主席，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[143].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[144].speaker |
主席（蔡委員春綢代） |
| transcript.gazette[144].start |
2026-03-18T12:05:49.862143+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[144].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[144].end |
2026-03-18T12:05:52.719286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[144].text |
請伍麗華委員上臺發言。 |
| transcript.gazette[144].quality |
0 |