iVOD / 167626

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IVOD_ID 167626
IVOD_URL https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167626
日期 2026-03-18
會議資料.會議代碼 委員會-11-5-22-2
會議資料.會議代碼:str 第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第2次全體委員會議
會議資料.屆 11
會議資料.會期 5
會議資料.會次 2
會議資料.種類 委員會
會議資料.委員會代碼[0] 22
會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] 教育及文化委員會
會議資料.標題 第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第2次全體委員會議
影片種類 Clip
開始時間 2026-03-18T11:43:03+08:00
結束時間 2026-03-18T11:48:32+08:00
影片長度 00:05:29
支援功能[0] ai-transcript
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委員名稱 蘇清泉
委員發言時間 11:43:03 - 11:48:32
會議時間 2026-03-18T09:00:00+08:00
會議名稱 立法院第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第2次全體委員會議(事由:一、 邀請核能安全委員會主任委員陳明真列席報告業務概況,並備質詢。 二、 邀請核能安全委員會、經濟部、台灣電力股份有限公司就「我國核電廠再運轉之規劃及推動現況」進行專題報告,並備質詢。 【3月18日及19日二天一次會】)
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transcript.whisperx[1].text 他說2025年7月核三廠第二部機提議之後台灣完全進入輝和家園所以2025年真的達到了對不對對啦齁應該可以這麼理解吧然後2026年我們進入新的核能新的核電還有新的科技
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transcript.whisperx[5].text 台電我把你們擠成這樣,我們台電是在拼三棒啊包委員沒拼三棒第一個
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transcript.whisperx[6].text 在河山廠的是我台店的同仁眷屬都在那裡生活所以這個安全的部分那個那河山廠目前來講2月開始西屋開始已經在進行一些相關品務工作檢測的工具目前也已經下單在製造中那大概陸陸續續大概後面的檢測工作大概就會進行
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transcript.whisperx[8].text 主委 放手一做不然會壞掉美國國防部前幾天跟我們說你們台灣現在兩個機組兩座核電才能才有機組電力這白癡也知道 智障也知道搞那些光電 搞那些風車那些根本就是詐騙嘛 對不對我今天不這樣 抱歉啦現在核三長 核二長的進度會付費台電會付費
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transcript.whisperx[11].text 台電你就要趕快加把勁嘛 對不對我們希望趕快啊 趕快重啟啊河山場 它的土地有五百多公頃蔣經國時代 我真的很佩服寬裂了五百多公頃現在兩部機組才用一百公頃那河山場本來就有規劃有六部機組不管你是要合分類 要合融合 要SMR都可以啊
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transcript.whisperx[12].text 我們酒棚那邊還要搞衛星發射你知道嗎 已經結案了也要感謝吳立華他很認真 我們一起爭取所以用大量的電力那個清收那個電力比AI還耗電所以屏東館現在沒辦法發電清搞那些光電板有什麼屁用啊所以這個很重要對不對
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transcript.whisperx[13].text 你是合能的人才 我很欽佩你的你不能有擔當 好不好謝謝委員關心台北也要加把勁 好不好 議長謝謝
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transcript.gazette[1].text 請陳明真主委。
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transcript.gazette[2].text 請陳主委上臺,謝謝。
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transcript.gazette[3].text 委員好。
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transcript.gazette[4].text 主委,前幾天我在總質詢的時候問過卓院長,他講了一番話讓我非常高興、欣慰,他說2025年7月核三廠第二部機停役之後,臺灣完全進入非核家園,所以2025年真的達到目標了,對不對?對吧?
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transcript.gazette[5].text 應該是這麼理解吧!
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transcript.gazette[6].text 2026年,我們進入新的核能、新的核電,還有新的科技,它要開始啟用了,所以我非常欽佩,我也告訴院長,院長真的聰明、真的很棒,因為前面有交代,後面才可以開始。
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transcript.gazette[7].text 前幾天美國TerraPower公司宣布要幫微軟興建10座核能電廠,他們要做SMR不是什麼我不知道,反正他們在各州要興建10座核電廠,支援微軟AI等耗電力的產業。
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transcript.gazette[8].text 我們現在的核三廠,我大概去了10次,因為我非常關心,我是屏東人,核三廠現在到底是什麼情形?
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transcript.gazette[9].text 你本身也是學核工的嘛!對。
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transcript.gazette[10].text 核三廠那些人才,你們要好好疼惜,那是國家的人才,包括你也是,不能讓這些人跑掉,如果跑掉是國家的損失,我們不分政黨都這麼認為。
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transcript.gazette[11].text 現在核三廠進度到什麼程度?
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transcript.gazette[12].text 我看西屋的人已經簽約了,他們也來了,現在是怎麼樣?
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transcript.gazette[13].text 你們的速度要快啊!
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transcript.gazette[14].text 我這麼支持台電,台電到底在做什麼?
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transcript.gazette[15].text 第一個,在核三廠的是我們台電的同仁,眷屬也都在那裡生活,所以安全是無虞的。
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transcript.gazette[16].speaker 許副總經理永輝
transcript.gazette[16].start 2026-03-18T11:45:38.811000+08:00
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transcript.gazette[16].text 核三廠從2月開始,西屋公司已經在進行相關的評估工作,檢測工具也已經下單在製造中,後面的檢測工作會陸陸續續進行。
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transcript.gazette[17].speaker 許副總經理永輝
transcript.gazette[17].start 2026-03-18T11:45:52.827000+08:00
transcript.gazette[17].guessed
transcript.gazette[17].end 2026-03-18T11:45:59.209000+08:00
transcript.gazette[17].text 去年5月17日,其實核三廠已經停役,但是目前的組織、人力都沒有做任何改變,以上簡單說明。
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transcript.gazette[18].speaker 蘇委員清泉
transcript.gazette[18].start 2026-03-18T11:45:59.789000+08:00
transcript.gazette[18].guessed
transcript.gazette[18].end 2026-03-18T11:46:14.652000+08:00
transcript.gazette[18].text 所以蔡英文政府說的2025非核家園的目標達到了,2026年要開始新的觀念,可能concept要改了,你們就放手去做。
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transcript.gazette[19].speaker 蘇委員清泉
transcript.gazette[19].start 2026-03-18T11:46:15.745000+08:00
transcript.gazette[19].guessed
transcript.gazette[19].end 2026-03-18T11:46:17.085000+08:00
transcript.gazette[19].text 主委,要放手去做啦!
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transcript.gazette[20].speaker 蘇委員清泉
transcript.gazette[20].start 2026-03-18T11:46:17.185000+08:00
transcript.gazette[20].guessed
transcript.gazette[20].end 2026-03-18T11:46:17.285000+08:00
transcript.gazette[20].text 不然會「害了了」啦!
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transcript.gazette[21].speaker 蘇委員清泉
transcript.gazette[21].start 2026-03-18T11:46:17.305000+08:00
transcript.gazette[21].guessed
transcript.gazette[21].end 2026-03-18T11:46:21.546000+08:00
transcript.gazette[21].text 美國國防部前幾天才告訴我們,臺灣最少需要兩部機組,要兩座核電廠的機組才有足夠的基礎電力,這點白痴、智障都知道,搞那些光電、風車根本是詐騙嘛!
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transcript.gazette[22].speaker 蘇委員清泉
transcript.gazette[22].start 2026-03-18T11:46:21.686000+08:00
transcript.gazette[22].guessed
transcript.gazette[22].end 2026-03-18T11:46:21.706000+08:00
transcript.gazette[22].text 對不對?
transcript.gazette[22].quality 1
transcript.gazette[23].speaker 蘇委員清泉
transcript.gazette[23].start 2026-03-18T11:46:21.706000+08:00
transcript.gazette[23].guessed 1
transcript.gazette[23].end 2026-03-18T11:46:22.706000+08:00
transcript.gazette[23].text 我這麼說對你們是比較不好意思啦!
transcript.gazette[23].quality 0.2
transcript.gazette[24].speaker 蘇委員清泉
transcript.gazette[24].start 2026-03-18T11:46:22.327000+08:00
transcript.gazette[24].guessed
transcript.gazette[24].end 2026-03-18T11:46:22.767000+08:00
transcript.gazette[24].text 以現在核二廠的進度,來得及嗎?
transcript.gazette[24].quality 0.538
transcript.gazette[25].speaker 蘇委員清泉
transcript.gazette[25].start 2026-03-18T11:46:22.767000+08:00
transcript.gazette[25].guessed 1
transcript.gazette[25].end 2026-03-18T11:46:45.574000+08:00
transcript.gazette[25].text 台電,來得及嗎?
transcript.gazette[25].quality 0.167
transcript.gazette[26].speaker 蘇委員清泉
transcript.gazette[26].start 2026-03-18T11:46:45.574000+08:00
transcript.gazette[26].guessed
transcript.gazette[26].end 2026-03-18T11:46:50.796000+08:00
transcript.gazette[26].text 我是絕對全力支持,在野黨也支持你們,你們在怕什麼?
transcript.gazette[26].quality 0.636
transcript.gazette[27].speaker 許副總經理永輝
transcript.gazette[27].start 2026-03-18T11:46:52.137000+08:00
transcript.gazette[27].guessed
transcript.gazette[27].end 2026-03-18T11:47:00.645000+08:00
transcript.gazette[27].text 委員,你現在支持我們,就是讓我們放手去做安全檢測,讓我們沒有任何干擾,讓我們好好去做,把安全檢測這件事情做好。
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transcript.gazette[28].speaker 蘇委員清泉
transcript.gazette[28].start 2026-03-18T11:47:02.146000+08:00
transcript.gazette[28].guessed
transcript.gazette[28].end 2026-03-18T11:47:11.871000+08:00
transcript.gazette[28].text 剛剛賴士葆委員提到,這真的是賴總統講的,他說如果是緊急狀況,核能就要頂上來,所以你們要準備好,隨時要頂上來。
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transcript.gazette[29].speaker 蘇委員清泉
transcript.gazette[29].start 2026-03-18T11:47:12.291000+08:00
transcript.gazette[29].guessed
transcript.gazette[29].end 2026-03-18T11:47:14.012000+08:00
transcript.gazette[29].text 這次的戰爭不曉得要打多久嘛!
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transcript.gazette[30].speaker 蘇委員清泉
transcript.gazette[30].start 2026-03-18T11:47:15.333000+08:00
transcript.gazette[30].guessed
transcript.gazette[30].end 2026-03-18T11:47:28.694000+08:00
transcript.gazette[30].text 所以主委,你要在你的powerful、權責之下,趕快把事情做好,台電也要趕快加把勁,我們希望趕快重啟。
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transcript.gazette[31].speaker 蘇委員清泉
transcript.gazette[31].start 2026-03-18T11:47:30.496000+08:00
transcript.gazette[31].guessed
transcript.gazette[31].end 2026-03-18T11:47:39.984000+08:00
transcript.gazette[31].text 核三廠的土地有五百多公頃,我真的很佩服,因為蔣經國時代匡列了為五百多公頃,現在兩部機組才用100公頃。
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transcript.gazette[32].speaker 蘇委員清泉
transcript.gazette[32].start 2026-03-18T11:47:40.684000+08:00
transcript.gazette[32].guessed
transcript.gazette[32].end 2026-03-18T11:47:46.909000+08:00
transcript.gazette[32].text 核三廠本來就規劃要有六部機組,不管是要做核分裂、核融合或SMR都可以啊!
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transcript.gazette[33].speaker 蘇委員清泉
transcript.gazette[33].start 2026-03-18T11:47:49.151000+08:00
transcript.gazette[33].guessed
transcript.gazette[33].end 2026-03-18T11:47:52.832000+08:00
transcript.gazette[33].text 九鵬那邊還要搞衛星發射,你知道嗎?
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transcript.gazette[34].speaker 蘇委員清泉
transcript.gazette[34].start 2026-03-18T11:47:52.832000+08:00
transcript.gazette[34].guessed
transcript.gazette[34].end 2026-03-18T11:47:53.532000+08:00
transcript.gazette[34].text 已經結案了。
transcript.gazette[34].quality 1
transcript.gazette[35].speaker 蘇委員清泉
transcript.gazette[35].start 2026-03-18T11:47:53.912000+08:00
transcript.gazette[35].guessed
transcript.gazette[35].end 2026-03-18T11:47:56.533000+08:00
transcript.gazette[35].text 也要感謝伍麗華,她很認真,這是我們一起爭取的。
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transcript.gazette[36].speaker 蘇委員清泉
transcript.gazette[36].start 2026-03-18T11:47:56.533000+08:00
transcript.gazette[36].guessed 1
transcript.gazette[36].end 2026-03-18T11:48:01.155000+08:00
transcript.gazette[36].text 主席,我順便把你的功勞說一下。
transcript.gazette[36].quality 0
transcript.gazette[37].speaker 蘇委員清泉
transcript.gazette[37].start 2026-03-18T11:48:01.155000+08:00
transcript.gazette[37].guessed
transcript.gazette[37].end 2026-03-18T11:48:13.059000+08:00
transcript.gazette[37].text 這些都會用到大量的電力,聽說比AI還耗電,但是屏東縣現在沒有半個發電廠,搞那些光電板有什麼屁用!
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transcript.gazette[38].speaker 蘇委員清泉
transcript.gazette[38].start 2026-03-18T11:48:14.180000+08:00
transcript.gazette[38].guessed
transcript.gazette[38].end 2026-03-18T11:48:15.680000+08:00
transcript.gazette[38].text 所以這個部分很重要。
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transcript.gazette[39].speaker 蘇委員清泉
transcript.gazette[39].start 2026-03-18T11:48:18.540000+08:00
transcript.gazette[39].guessed
transcript.gazette[39].end 2026-03-18T11:48:24.243000+08:00
transcript.gazette[39].text 主委,你是核能的人才,我很欽佩你,你要有擔當,好嗎?
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transcript.gazette[40].speaker 陳主任委員明真
transcript.gazette[40].start 2026-03-18T11:48:25.663000+08:00
transcript.gazette[40].guessed
transcript.gazette[40].end 2026-03-18T11:48:26.043000+08:00
transcript.gazette[40].text 謝謝委員關心。
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transcript.gazette[41].speaker 蘇委員清泉
transcript.gazette[41].start 2026-03-18T11:48:26.944000+08:00
transcript.gazette[41].guessed
transcript.gazette[41].end 2026-03-18T11:48:27.484000+08:00
transcript.gazette[41].text 台電也要加把勁,好嗎?
transcript.gazette[41].quality 0.667
transcript.gazette[42].speaker 蘇委員清泉
transcript.gazette[42].start 2026-03-18T11:48:28.084000+08:00
transcript.gazette[42].guessed
transcript.gazette[42].end 2026-03-18T11:48:28.084000+08:00
transcript.gazette[42].text 以上,謝謝。
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transcript.gazette[43].speaker 主席
transcript.gazette[43].start 2026-03-18T11:48:28.584000+08:00
transcript.gazette[43].guessed 1
transcript.gazette[43].end 2026-03-18T11:48:32.869714+08:00
transcript.gazette[43].text 謝謝蘇清泉委員的質詢,請官員回座。
transcript.gazette[43].quality 0
transcript.gazette[44].speaker 主席
transcript.gazette[44].start 2026-03-18T11:48:33.169714+08:00
transcript.gazette[44].guessed 1
transcript.gazette[44].end 2026-03-18T11:48:36.026857+08:00
transcript.gazette[44].text 接下來有請羅廷瑋委員。
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