| IVOD_ID |
167610 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167610 |
| 日期 |
2026-03-18 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-22-2 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
2 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
22 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
教育及文化委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-03-18T11:15:50+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-03-18T11:23:02+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:12 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/4e26a61b53ad6053dd5377799f139accd268b4a161496bd94d1c9dfa77de2098080973923c6b5d8c5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
萬美玲 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:15:50 - 11:23:02 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-03-18T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第2次全體委員會議（事由：一、 邀請核能安全委員會主任委員陳明真列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。
二、 邀請核能安全委員會、經濟部、台灣電力股份有限公司就「我國核電廠再運轉之規劃及推動現況」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
【3月18日及19日二天一次會】） |
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接下來有請萬美林委員質詢謝謝召委我們一樣請陳明珍主委還有我們賴次長還有我們許副總請三個機關代表上台謝謝 |
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诶 诸位 我们那个都一起好了 我们巩部长提到今天大家也在问 河山厂已经启动了自主安全检查三月就要这个运转计划送到河安会那预计2028年就可以将河山重启而且也说到如果这个汰换设备这个不多重启的时间就会再缩短那我们美国西屋公司其实也要展开了设备老化的分析这些工作那我这边再确认一次 |
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核三厂再运转计划三月份要送核安慰距离现在只剩下12天的时间那跟台电经济部跟各位确认核三厂再运转的计划其实有没有改变会如期送到吗 |
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這個部分剛剛台電公司已經有表達他會在三月底之前送出來再運轉計畫說完全沒有問題所以計畫也不會改變對不對這是確定的嘛好那再來喔 國務黨又說到他說現在我們美國的西屋公司已經開始展開設備老化的一個分析的工作了這沒有錯嗎 |
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那台電在這段時間也開始進行安全檢查核安會的報告又提到說有派員赴核電廠掌握了設備的現況那我想請教一下主委請教一下許副總我們現在掌握設備是不用汰換的是有多少那預計有沒有辦法縮短核三廠重啟的時間要檢測當然要檢測最晚以後才知道說我 |
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才能知道說我這個設備到底我未來如果要繼續運轉到底他需不需要去做更換 |
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對那現在因為剛才已經說過嘛已經開始進行安全檢查所以現在已經檢測到大概百分之多少目前來講我們剛開始進行一些檢測的工作那蘋果的工作當然之前大概就已經所以檢測完成了嗎還沒有還沒有進行了多少目前來講這個月開始我們會開始進行所謂的蒸汽產生器也就產生蒸汽做發電把它當成是一個工程一個計畫現在進行了百分之多少目前來講大概就是 |
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西屋的那一塊我講西屋那一塊西屋那一塊目前來講正在做一些他給他的下包商的工具的這個製造不好意思直接回答我一下現在進行了百分之多少了 |
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目前來講我這裡沒有手上沒有詳細的數字那就是剛開始的意思對不對那我想有開始總是好的但是麻煩進度要趕上我講的是檢測的部分那麼我想再請教一下主委好了我們核安會作為我們核能最高的主管機關也是一個審查的單位主委你認為核三廠重啟是一個完全的科學問題還是政治問題 |
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我們核證一定本是專業確定他安全我們才會讓他所以是科學問題還是政治問題是科學技術上的問題科學問題嘛對不對很好為什麼這樣問因為我們這麼多年說下來核安會是獨立的機關就是要提醒主委說您剛說到的專業審查這件事情是很重要的所以 |
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千千萬萬不要讓政治去影響這個在專業上這件事情該怎麼審就要怎麼審當然了 核產廠能不能在2028去重啟還有一個問題我們知道賴清德總統他說過核電重啟的三大原則一 核安無虞二 核廢有解 |
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三 社會要有共識那我今天來提醒這個經濟部或者河安會有沒有跟行政院討論過關於所說的核廢油解這件事情什麼叫做核廢油解 標準是什麼是最終儲市場出來叫做核廢油解還是要具備什麼樣條件這非常模糊 能不能說明一下還是賴總統說了算 |
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首先跟委員說明啊 這些無論在運轉中的或是在審查中的這個計劃其實這個核廢料的處理都是階段性的處理不管是低階或是高放我們那麼重點告訴我核廢油解的標準你認為是什麼或是乾除的一個作業都是我們跟國際同軌來進行運轉中的這個核電廠的 |
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我們目前擁有高階核廢料最終處理廠的國家有多少? |
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最終處置嗎 我已經講最終處置嗎高階核廢料最終處置廠目前來講大概只有芬蘭只有芬蘭一家嘛芬蘭也還沒有正式拿到它的使用執照它目前在做一些試運轉測試對對對 好 沒錯就是目前嚴格算來就是只有芬蘭一家嘛是那除了這些國家以外就除了芬蘭之外其他的國家對於高階核廢料怎麼處理的你們知道嗎核廢料 我簡單講就是核廢料的處置其實上這一塊是其他的國家大致上都是用什麼方式處理的 |
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目前來講大概乾式儲存還是乾式儲存我在這裡要提醒一下就是我國高階核廢料最終儲置廠現在可以說是連法規都沒有所以次長也在這裡我請教最後一個問題我們高階核廢料選址條例的草案進度現在到哪裡了什麼時候才能夠出來 |
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第一個我們去年成立辦公室那這個辦公室目前工作的重點有三個部分第一個說起到國外核能使用的國家它法規的一個訂定的一個過程那另外對於民間版的一些的意見我們也在做綜合的這個整理除此之外的話我們也辦了相關的所謂的所以草案還在草案是這樣嗎 |
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还在资料收集的阶段我认为真的需要再快一点脚步要再快一点所以惠惠也告诉我一下你这个草案进度实际现在到哪里了做了哪些事情那你预计还要多久时间才能够完成把这个草案顺利完成完毕以后因为这样子我们到后来高阶核废料最终储施场的建立 |
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我想這都是一系列非常的重要的所以最後我提醒我想我們這個高階核廢料的最後最終處置場這個不是短時間之內就能建立起來這你們一定同意但我們低階核廢料最終處置場也跟地方又溝通了10年也還沒有一個這個結果 |
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所以本席認為高階的這個最終主持長的預估時間可能會更久因此在每一個環節我拜託大家我們的腳步要加快一點要更積極一點否則我們這個核電廠重啟會是遙遙無期以上兩個我需要調的資料拜託今天都能夠給我可以嗎我們相關的這個我們現在工作的方向整理起來給我好不好因為那都是本來就有的好不好謝謝謝謝萬美林薇 |