| IVOD_ID |
167606 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167606 |
| 日期 |
2026-03-18 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-23-2 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期交通委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
2 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期交通委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-03-18T10:43:04+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-03-18T10:53:16+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:12 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
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| video_url |
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| 委員名稱 |
邱若華 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:43:04 - 10:53:16 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-03-18T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期交通委員會第2次全體委員會議（事由：邀請數位發展部部長及國家科學及技術委員會主任委員就「落實臺灣AI治理與基礎建設，發展臺灣AI軟體產業」進行專題報告，並備質詢。【3月18日及19日二天一次會】） |
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那目前全球AI治理已經進入高風險的時代了像歐盟的法案EU AI Act它在2024年正式生效它將AI依風險等級分類管制那美國也透過了行政命令來強制要求AI巨頭進行安全測驗那我們回頭來看台灣現在目前雖然AI基本法已經通過了三讀並且公告但最關鍵的AI治理架構要等到今年年底才出來沒有錯啦 |
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那AI發展 風險架構我們的AI基本法 |
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風險框架應該是在三月底四月初就會我們這邊就會抱怨了三月底四月初大概兩三個禮拜內我們就會兩三個禮拜嗎那不是要提到AI的發展是一週的單位來做計算嗎那像OpenAI的GPT還有Google的Gemini他們每年也在重寫他們的模型那如果我們治理框架你說要到三月底那馬上就上路了嗎馬上就可以業主業者了嗎 |
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當然我們報院以後要看那個行政報院之後如果院合訂之後我們就會在AI基本法底下的規定的時間內去執行所以沒有法律的真空期嗎 |
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這目前不會啊我們核定之後我們就會去做而且部理會還會去協助去協助各機關去訂立相關的管理規範管理規範同樣也是在三月底嗎還是要在還有一段時間嗎那是多長一段時間 |
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跟委員說明一下我們現在的AI風險管理框架事實上是三層的架構在最上層就是AI基本法這個主管機關目前是國科會在AI基本法下面我們事務發布會訂定AI風險管理框架 |
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AI風險分類框架那我們數法部訂了這個AI風險分類框架之後呢那個各個部會就會依照這個風險分類框架去訂定作用法譬如說以衛福部來講他們就要訂定那個就是AI技術在那個 |
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醫療產業裡面它是怎麼樣應用怎樣規管怎樣去認證等等然後到時候發生了風險到底是由醫生負責醫院負責還是有軟體公司負責等等這個都是我們是有三層的架構那我們現在最上面那一層感謝那個立法院我們現在已經通過了AI基本法我們現在就趕快把這個風險風雷框架做好我剛想要問就是如果這段時間發生AI侵權或是技術濫用的話那蘇巴夫的權責還有他的責任機制在哪裡 |
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對 那現在就是說以衛福部來講的話其實他們有些作用法已經也在立法了甚至於之前在AI基本法通過之前他們甚至有一些比較沒有爭議的部分他們都已經在做了那我們當然會盡快加速這個整個進程 |
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儘快加速那有沒有一個明確的時間因為我同時也要問蘇防部有沒有參考歐盟的風險分級制度是 這個事情跟委員說明一下基本上現在民主國家對於這個AI風險的管理事實上有很不同的看法美國跟歐盟的看法非常不一樣事實上我們台灣在制定那個AI基本法的時候一開始就是參照歐盟的那個AIE Act |
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可是美國那邊有非常不同的看法就如同委員上面寫的就是歐盟它事實上有列出一個不可接受之風險它列出了八種樣態的AI系統包含潛意識監控包含社會 |
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社會信用等等這個都不准發展可是美國人他們認為說regulation hinders innovation他們認為說太多的監管會妨礙AI的發展所以美國他們是採用的方法是就是用這種AI風險分類框架的這種方式來做 |
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現在美國跟歐盟他們的管理風險他們的成績不一樣那未來台灣的軟體廠商要如何接軌國際他們要怎麼去達成這個合規的要求所以我們後來做的方法就是在那個美國方式跟歐盟方式模式裡面我們找到一個平衡點我們叫做台灣模式就是我剛剛講的這個三層的架構因為我們認為說這個AI的風險不應該是由速發部來做一個非常沒關係 |
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是,謝謝 |
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副主委好副主委我們常說半島敵是台灣的戲盾那我們也在確保國家的戰略優勢那最近有摩根史丹利他近期發布的報告震驚業界他指指台灣的晶片還有製造正面力電力供給不穩那產能也過度集中兩大的系統風險 |
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那我們知道AI晶片它的製造還有運算它的耗電量是穿透製成的數倍所以它會消耗台灣近10%的電力那另外台灣的天然氣儲存大大概只有12到14天那如果能源出現問題對晶片還有科技業勢必造成終極那當國會編列10年3000億的精創台灣方案時本行沒有看到政府對於AI的算力基礎建設的設施然後還有能源配套有任何具體的保障那國會這邊的看法是 |
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因為能源的部分其實不算是國科會在主管不過我們在發展這個AI是因為我們要發展AI嗎你們有沒有去做過這個供電的韌性評估呢就是針對AI的算力算區是 報告委員我們在對於這個算力建置的時候我們有去做這個電力的評估而且也有做跟這個台電有密切的合作去確保這個電力的供給是無庸置疑的 |
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所以不好意思我再請蘇發布的部長部長您剛有提到我們台灣目前的GPU算力是多少我們現在分成幾個部分就是說政府方面的話那個如果是學術界需要用的算力是由國科會這邊負責的那現在目前的算力GPU是多少 |
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是40嗎?蘇巴部這邊的就40片那報告中有提到要提升到140那你認為這樣的算力夠嗎?不夠,絕對不夠那算力需要電力沒有錯吧?是那現在的電力是足夠的嗎?國客會跟蘇巴部這邊的了解依照我們的了解,現在經濟部沒有跟我們說沒有說,那這樣子的算力有競爭力嗎? |
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483.067 |
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OK 那事實上我跟委員說一下因為全世界現在大部分的算力都是民間去建立的像說美國的那個STARGATE的那個計畫那市長這邊美國的Microsoft Google Amazon Meta它的規模它單一AI它就是它的AI單一就是數萬沒錯 沒錯 沒錯那他們正朝百萬GPU發展我們看到現在只有40報告中說要提到140那算力需要電力那所以我這邊就有提到我們電力目前是足夠的嗎 |
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510.195 |
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沒有電力的話我們要怎麼發展AI 請部長和國科會說因為我們現在就是透過那個韓式的方式讓那個保險業的資金可以投入然後另外也那個透過韓式的方式跟那個財政部讓那個算力中心的建設列為重大那個基礎設施台灣在AI的定位是想要朝著什麼樣的方向前進我們是要做代工嗎 應該不只是代工吧 |
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因為台灣我們剛才稍早就有提到吧大家都在討論我們台灣是AI好所以現在那個鴻海已經遞建了他們要建那個算力中心規模是一萬片的CPU我們現在算力不夠嘛對 一萬片就是民間他會那個現在鴻海單單一個案子那什麼時候可以達成這個要問那個鴻海我們希望說因為民間的速度會比政府快很多也有跟企業在討論嘛是是是那總是會有一個期程吧 |
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對 那當然是說企業這個期程我們政府不能夠一定他一定是哪時候要蓋完但是他現在已經遞件了那我們現在就是希望他們盡快開工然後幫他解決所有土地電力等等的問題讓他們趕快開工 那我們這邊不是 沒關係 也是因為時間的關係那我們現在的競爭力應該只是陪跑的程度吧 |
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一萬片GPU 一萬顆那個GPU也不算小了一萬顆GPU是我們的目標 我們現在才40對 因為我們的預算都被砍掉了我們本來去年我們要 國科會在進行討論提供本行AI算力基礎建設 尤其是能源韌性的評估報告 兩週內OK 好 謝謝那請委員多支持我們的預算那40片是前年的 去年我們要買100片那個預算被刪掉了 所以我們去年一片都沒有增加 |
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謝謝因為我們現在才實施我剛才提到了現在很多企業他們都已經達到萬萬顆以上了嘛那我們希望我們這方面可以提升那本席也會支持感謝 感謝委員的支持能源的韌性報告好 謝謝好 非常感謝鳩羅委員 |
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邱委員若華 |
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謝謝召委。 |
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邱委員若華 |
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召委、主席，有請數發部林部長。 |
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主席 |
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請數發部林部長。 |
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林部長宜敬 |
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邱委員早安。 |
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邱委員若華 |
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部長早。 |
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邱委員若華 |
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部長，全世界都在談Taiwan is the AI hub.但對產業來說，一方面雖然感到驕傲，但同時也感到焦慮，為什麼會感到焦慮？ |
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邱委員若華 |
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我們確實有世界最強的晶片產業，當輝達還有台積電把臺灣推向硬體核心的時候，我們政府在法制環境、算力還有能源基礎建設有沒有跟上？ |
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邱委員若華 |
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如果政府沒有跟上的話，它的速度沒有跟上技術發展的時候，臺灣極有可能在這一波全球AI的發展競爭中出線。 |
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邱委員若華 |
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我們有最強的晶片，可是卻沒有相應的治理框架，還有足夠的電力建設，所以本席先從治理還有基礎建設的面向就教部長。 |
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邱委員若華 |
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部長，法制建設應該是產業發展的定心丸，不是它的不明確性來源。 |
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邱委員若華 |
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目前全球AI治理已經進入高風險的時代了，像歐盟的法案EU AI Act在2024年正式生效，它將AI依風險等級分類管制，美國也透過行政命令來強制要求AI巨頭進行安全測驗。 |
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邱委員若華 |
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我們回頭來看，臺灣目前雖然AI基本法已經三讀通過並且公告，但最關鍵的AI治理架構要等到今年年底才出來，沒有錯吧？是。 |
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邱委員若華 |
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部長，AI發展…… |
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林部長宜敬 |
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風險架構…… |
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邱委員若華 |
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我們的AI基本法。 |
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林部長宜敬 |
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風險框架應該是3月底、4月初就會報院了。 |
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邱委員若華 |
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2026-03-18T10:44:40.591000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T10:44:41.752000+08:00 |
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3月底、4月初？ |
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林部長宜敬 |
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2026-03-18T10:44:42.452000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T10:44:44.373000+08:00 |
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其實大概兩、三個禮拜內我們就會…… |
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邱委員若華 |
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2026-03-18T10:44:44.373000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T10:44:44.713000+08:00 |
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兩、三個禮拜嘛。 |
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邱委員若華 |
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2026-03-18T10:44:45.653000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T10:44:49.434000+08:00 |
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本席要提到的是AI的發展是以週的單位來計算。 |
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林部長宜敬 |
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2026-03-18T10:44:49.434000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T10:44:50.434000+08:00 |
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是啊、是啊！ |
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邱委員若華 |
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2026-03-18T10:44:49.954000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T10:45:01.477000+08:00 |
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像OpenAI的GPT還有Google的Gemini，他們每年也在重寫他們的模型，而我們的治理框架，你說要到3月底，馬上就上路了嗎？ |
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邱委員若華 |
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2026-03-18T10:45:01.477000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T10:45:02.658000+08:00 |
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馬上就可以提出給業者了嗎？ |
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0.75 |
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林部長宜敬 |
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2026-03-18T10:45:03.758000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T10:45:05.800000+08:00 |
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當然我們報院以後要看行政…… |
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蔡司長壽洤 |
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2026-03-18T10:45:07.201000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T10:45:14.307000+08:00 |
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報院之後，如果院核定了，我們就會在AI基本法規定的時間內去執行。 |
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0.897 |
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邱委員若華 |
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2026-03-18T10:45:14.667000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T10:45:16.308000+08:00 |
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所以沒有法律的空窗期嗎？ |
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0.909 |
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蔡司長壽洤 |
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2026-03-18T10:45:17.951000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T10:45:18.732000+08:00 |
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目前不會啊！ |
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蔡司長壽洤 |
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2026-03-18T10:45:19.313000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T10:45:26.043000+08:00 |
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在核定之後我們就會去做，而且部裡還會協助各機關去訂立相關的管理規範。 |
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0.938 |
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邱委員若華 |
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2026-03-18T10:45:26.043000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T10:45:29.829000+08:00 |
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管理規範同樣也是在3月底嗎？ |
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1 |
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邱委員若華 |
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2026-03-18T10:45:29.829000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T10:45:31.311000+08:00 |
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還是有一段時間嘛，那是多長一段時間？ |
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0.938 |
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林部長宜敬 |
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2026-03-18T10:45:33.754000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T10:46:22.674000+08:00 |
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跟委員說明一下，我們現在的AI風險管理框架事實上是三層架構，最上層就是AI基本法，主管機關目前是國科會，在AI基本法下面，我們數發部會訂定AI風險分類框架，訂了AI風險分類框架之後，各個部會就會依照這個風險分類框架去訂定作用法，譬如以衛福部來講，他們就要訂定AI技術在醫療產業裡面，它怎麼應用、怎樣規管、怎樣認證等等，然後到時候發生了風險到底是由醫生負責、醫院負責、還是由軟體公司負責等等，我們是有三層架構。 |
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0.984 |
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林部長宜敬 |
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2026-03-18T10:46:24.095000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T10:46:30.700000+08:00 |
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最上面那一層，感謝立法院現在已經通過了AI基本法，我們現在就趕快把這個風險分類框架做好。 |
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0.951 |
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邱委員若華 |
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2026-03-18T10:46:31.160000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T10:46:37.244000+08:00 |
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本席要問的是如果這段時間發生AI侵權或是技術濫用的話，數發部的權責還有它的責任機制在哪裡？ |
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0.837 |
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林部長宜敬 |
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2026-03-18T10:46:39.166000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T10:46:53.062000+08:00 |
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以衛福部來講，其實他們有些作用法也在立法了，甚至在AI基本法通過之前，有些比較沒有爭議的部分，他們都已經在做了，我們當然會儘快加速整個進程。 |
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0.984 |
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邱委員若華 |
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2026-03-18T10:46:54.621000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T10:46:56.922000+08:00 |
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儘快加速，有沒有一個明確的時間？ |
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邱委員若華 |
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2026-03-18T10:46:57.483000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T10:47:01.765000+08:00 |
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我同時也要問數發部有沒有參考歐盟的風險分級制度？ |
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0.913 |
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林部長宜敬 |
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2026-03-18T10:47:02.825000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T10:47:12.690000+08:00 |
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這個事情也跟委員說明一下，基本上，現在民主國家對於AI風險的管理，事實上有不同的看法，美國跟歐盟的看法非常不一樣。 |
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0.981 |
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林部長宜敬 |
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2026-03-18T10:47:12.690000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T10:47:51.906000+08:00 |
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事實上我們臺灣在制定AI基本法的時候，一開始就是參照歐盟的EU AI Act，可是美國有非常不同的看法，如同委員這上面寫的，就是歐盟事實上有列出一個不可接受之風險，它列出了8種樣態的AI系統，包含潛意識監控、包含社會信用等等，這都不准發展，可是美國人他們認為Regulation hinders innovation.他們認為太多的監管會妨礙AI發展，所以美國他們採用的方法就是用這種AI風險分類框架的方式來做。 |
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0.974 |
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邱委員若華 |
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2026-03-18T10:47:52.479000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T10:48:00.081000+08:00 |
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現在美國跟歐盟的管理風險，他們的層級不一樣，未來臺灣的軟體廠商要如何接軌國際？ |
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0.944 |
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邱委員若華 |
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2026-03-18T10:48:00.081000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T10:48:02.422000+08:00 |
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他們要怎麼去達成合規的要求？ |
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林部長宜敬 |
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2026-03-18T10:48:03.542000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T10:48:15.966000+08:00 |
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所以我們後來做的方法就是在美國方式跟歐盟方式、模式裡面找到一個平衡點，我們叫做臺灣模式，就是我剛才講的這個三層架構，因為我們認為AI的風險不應該是由數發部來做一個非常…… |
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0.975 |
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邱委員若華 |
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2026-03-18T10:48:15.966000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T10:48:20.667000+08:00 |
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部長，沒關係，因為時間的關係，還是請數發部要儘快。 |
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0.143 |
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林部長宜敬 |
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2026-03-18T10:48:20.667000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T10:48:20.687000+08:00 |
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是，謝謝。 |
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邱委員若華 |
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2026-03-18T10:48:20.687000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T10:48:28.733500+08:00 |
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接下來請國科會的副主委。 |
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陳副主任委員炳宇 |
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2026-03-18T10:48:28.733500+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T10:48:36.780000+08:00 |
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委員好。 |
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邱委員若華 |
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2026-03-18T10:48:36.780000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T10:48:37.080000+08:00 |
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副主委好。 |
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邱委員若華 |
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2026-03-18T10:48:37.981000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T10:48:50.945000+08:00 |
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副主委，我們常說半導體是臺灣的矽盾，我們也在確保國家的戰略優勢，Morgan Stanley近期發布的報告震驚業界，它直指臺灣的晶片製造正面臨電力供給不穩，產能也過度集中兩大系統風險。 |
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0.776 |
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邱委員若華 |
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2026-03-18T10:48:51.865000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T10:48:58.909000+08:00 |
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我們知道AI晶片的製造還有運算的耗電量是傳統製程的數倍，所以它會消耗臺灣近10%的電力。 |
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邱委員若華 |
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2026-03-18T10:48:59.609000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T10:49:05.392000+08:00 |
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另外，臺灣的天然氣儲量大概只有12到14天，如果能源出現問題，對晶片還有科技業勢必造成衝擊。 |
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邱委員若華 |
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2026-03-18T10:49:07.173000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T10:49:19.299000+08:00 |
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當國科會編列10年3,000億的晶創臺灣方案時，本席沒有看到政府對於AI算力基礎建設的設施還有能源配套有任何具體保障，國科會的看法為何？ |
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0.881 |
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陳副主任委員炳宇 |
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2026-03-18T10:49:23.725000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T10:49:29.227000+08:00 |
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報告委員，因為能源的部分其實不算是國科會主管，不過我們在發展AI…… |
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0.867 |
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邱委員若華 |
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2026-03-18T10:49:29.447000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T10:49:32.969000+08:00 |
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因為我們要發展AI，你們有沒有去做過供電的韌性評估？ |
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邱委員若華 |
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2026-03-18T10:49:33.309000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T10:49:35.050000+08:00 |
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就是針對AI的算力專區。 |
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0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
陳副主任委員炳宇 |
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2026-03-18T10:49:36.190000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T10:49:50.517000+08:00 |
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報告委員，我們對於算力建置的時候有去做電力的評估，而且也有跟台電密切合作確保電力供給是無庸置疑的。 |
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0.978 |
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邱委員若華 |
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2026-03-18T10:49:53.293000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T10:49:55.714000+08:00 |
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不好意思，我再請數發部的部長。 |
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0.846 |
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邱委員若華 |
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2026-03-18T10:49:55.714000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T10:49:58.795000+08:00 |
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部長，您剛才有提到我們臺灣目前的GPU算力是多少？ |
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0.957 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
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2026-03-18T10:50:00.275000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T10:50:08.697000+08:00 |
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我們現在分成幾個部分，在政府方面，如果是學術界需要用的算力是由國科會負責的。 |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
0.971 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
邱委員若華 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2026-03-18T10:50:09.858000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2026-03-18T10:50:12.511000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
目前的算力GPU是多少？是40？ |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2026-03-18T10:50:12.511000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2026-03-18T10:50:15.792000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
對，數發部只有40片。 |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
0.286 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
邱委員若華 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2026-03-18T10:50:15.792000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2026-03-18T10:50:16.972000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
報告中有提到要提升到140？對。 |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
邱委員若華 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2026-03-18T10:50:19.132000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2026-03-18T10:50:20.173000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
您認為這樣的算力夠嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2026-03-18T10:50:20.173000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2026-03-18T10:50:21.633000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
不夠、絕對不夠。 |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
邱委員若華 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2026-03-18T10:50:21.633000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2026-03-18T10:50:22.873000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
絕對不夠。 |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
邱委員若華 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2026-03-18T10:50:22.873000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2026-03-18T10:50:24.393000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
算力需要電力，沒有錯吧？是。 |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
邱委員若華 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2026-03-18T10:50:24.873000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2026-03-18T10:50:26.434000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].text |
現在的電力是足夠的嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
邱委員若華 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2026-03-18T10:50:26.434000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2026-03-18T10:50:27.694000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].text |
就國科會跟數發部這邊的了解。 |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
0.692 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2026-03-18T10:50:29.194000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2026-03-18T10:50:31.635000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].text |
依照我們的了解，現在經濟部並沒有跟我們說不能因為…… |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
0.783 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
邱委員若華 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2026-03-18T10:50:31.635000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[67].end |
2026-03-18T10:50:32.155000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].text |
沒有說？ |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
邱委員若華 |
| transcript.gazette[68].start |
2026-03-18T10:50:32.295000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[68].end |
2026-03-18T10:50:32.975000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].text |
這樣子的算力有競爭力嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[68].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[69].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[69].start |
2026-03-18T10:50:40.692000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[69].end |
2026-03-18T10:50:49.337000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].text |
跟委員說明一下，因為全世界現在大部分的算力都是民間去建立的，像美國Stargate的那個計畫也都是由…… |
| transcript.gazette[69].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[70].speaker |
邱委員若華 |
| transcript.gazette[70].start |
2026-03-18T10:50:49.337000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[70].end |
2026-03-18T10:50:50.337000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].text |
都是民間所建立？ |
| transcript.gazette[70].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[71].speaker |
邱委員若華 |
| transcript.gazette[71].start |
2026-03-18T10:50:49.657000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[71].end |
2026-03-18T10:50:55.601000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].text |
部長，美國的Microsoft、Google、Amazon、Meta的規模，它的AI單一就是數萬以上。 |
| transcript.gazette[71].quality |
0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[72].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[72].start |
2026-03-18T10:50:55.601000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[72].end |
2026-03-18T10:50:56.742000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].text |
沒錯、沒錯、完全沒錯。 |
| transcript.gazette[72].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[73].speaker |
邱委員若華 |
| transcript.gazette[73].start |
2026-03-18T10:50:57.502000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[73].end |
2026-03-18T10:51:01.604000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].text |
他們正朝百萬GPU發展，我們臺灣現在只有40，報告中說要提到140…… |
| transcript.gazette[73].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[74].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[74].start |
2026-03-18T10:51:01.604000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[74].end |
2026-03-18T10:51:03.465000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].text |
對，委員，讓我說明一下啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[74].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[75].speaker |
邱委員若華 |
| transcript.gazette[75].start |
2026-03-18T10:51:03.465000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[75].end |
2026-03-18T10:51:07.067000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].text |
算力需要電力，所以我有提到我們的電力目前是足夠的嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[75].quality |
0.958 |
| transcript.gazette[76].speaker |
邱委員若華 |
| transcript.gazette[76].start |
2026-03-18T10:51:08.068000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[76].end |
2026-03-18T10:51:09.748000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].text |
我們沒有電力的話要怎麼發展AI？ |
| transcript.gazette[76].quality |
0.867 |
| transcript.gazette[77].speaker |
邱委員若華 |
| transcript.gazette[77].start |
2026-03-18T10:51:09.969000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[77].end |
2026-03-18T10:51:11.889000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].text |
請部長還有國科會說明。 |
| transcript.gazette[77].quality |
0.7 |
| transcript.gazette[78].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[78].start |
2026-03-18T10:51:12.089000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[78].end |
2026-03-18T10:51:27.113000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].text |
我們現在就是透過函釋的方式，讓保險業的資金可以投入，另外也透過函釋的方式跟財政部讓算力中心的建設列為重大基礎設置。 |
| transcript.gazette[78].quality |
0.907 |
| transcript.gazette[79].speaker |
邱委員若華 |
| transcript.gazette[79].start |
2026-03-18T10:51:27.493000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[79].end |
2026-03-18T10:51:32.034000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].text |
我就問一個問題，臺灣在AI的定位是想要朝著什麼方向前進？ |
| transcript.gazette[79].quality |
0.731 |
| transcript.gazette[80].speaker |
邱委員若華 |
| transcript.gazette[80].start |
2026-03-18T10:51:32.034000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[80].end |
2026-03-18T10:51:33.455000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].text |
我們要做代工嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[80].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[81].speaker |
邱委員若華 |
| transcript.gazette[81].start |
2026-03-18T10:51:33.455000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[81].end |
2026-03-18T10:51:34.175000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].text |
應該不只是代工吧！ |
| transcript.gazette[81].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[82].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[82].start |
2026-03-18T10:51:34.175000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[82].end |
2026-03-18T10:51:35.175000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].text |
不是、不是。 |
| transcript.gazette[82].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[83].speaker |
邱委員若華 |
| transcript.gazette[83].start |
2026-03-18T10:51:34.595000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[83].end |
2026-03-18T10:51:39.937000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].text |
因為臺灣……剛剛稍早我就有提到，大家都在討論臺灣是AI hub。 |
| transcript.gazette[83].quality |
0.815 |
| transcript.gazette[84].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[84].start |
2026-03-18T10:51:40.277000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[84].end |
2026-03-18T10:51:46.178000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].text |
所以現在鴻海已經遞件了，他們要建算力中心，規模是1萬片的GPU。 |
| transcript.gazette[84].quality |
0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[85].speaker |
邱委員若華 |
| transcript.gazette[85].start |
2026-03-18T10:51:46.338000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[85].end |
2026-03-18T10:51:47.339000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].text |
我們現在算力不夠嘛？ |
| transcript.gazette[85].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[86].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[86].start |
2026-03-18T10:51:48.339000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[86].end |
2026-03-18T10:51:52.120000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].text |
對，1萬片，就是民間會那個……現在鴻海單單一個案子…… |
| transcript.gazette[86].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[87].speaker |
邱委員若華 |
| transcript.gazette[87].start |
2026-03-18T10:51:52.760000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[87].end |
2026-03-18T10:51:53.680000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].text |
什麼時候可以達成？ |
| transcript.gazette[87].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[88].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[88].start |
2026-03-18T10:51:54.521000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[88].end |
2026-03-18T10:51:58.502000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].text |
這要問鴻海，我們希望……因為民間的速度會比政府快很多。 |
| transcript.gazette[88].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[89].speaker |
邱委員若華 |
| transcript.gazette[89].start |
2026-03-18T10:51:58.682000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[89].end |
2026-03-18T10:52:00.442000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].text |
相信政府也有跟企業在討論嘛。是、是。 |
| transcript.gazette[89].quality |
0.733 |
| transcript.gazette[90].speaker |
邱委員若華 |
| transcript.gazette[90].start |
2026-03-18T10:52:01.503000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[90].end |
2026-03-18T10:52:02.303000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].text |
總是會有一個期程吧！ |
| transcript.gazette[90].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[91].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[91].start |
2026-03-18T10:52:03.981000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[91].end |
2026-03-18T10:52:20.012000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].text |
對，當然企業的期程我們政府不能規定它一定要哪時候蓋完，但是它現在已經遞件了，我們現在希望他們儘快開工，幫他解決所有土地、電力等等問題，讓他們趕快開工，我們這邊…… |
| transcript.gazette[91].quality |
0.903 |
| transcript.gazette[92].speaker |
邱委員若華 |
| transcript.gazette[92].start |
2026-03-18T10:52:20.233000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[92].end |
2026-03-18T10:52:26.117000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].text |
部長，沒關係，因為時間的關係，我們現在的競爭力應該只是陪跑的程度吧！ |
| transcript.gazette[92].quality |
0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[93].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[93].start |
2026-03-18T10:52:27.637000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[93].end |
2026-03-18T10:52:29.358000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].text |
1萬片GPU…… |
| transcript.gazette[93].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[94].speaker |
邱委員若華 |
| transcript.gazette[94].start |
2026-03-18T10:52:29.358000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[94].end |
2026-03-18T10:52:30.358000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].text |
在AI發展…… |
| transcript.gazette[94].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[95].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[95].start |
2026-03-18T10:52:30.338000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[95].end |
2026-03-18T10:52:31.639000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].text |
1萬顆GPU也不算少了。 |
| transcript.gazette[95].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[96].speaker |
邱委員若華 |
| transcript.gazette[96].start |
2026-03-18T10:52:33.540000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[96].end |
2026-03-18T10:52:35.581000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].text |
1萬顆GPU是我們的目標，我們現在才40嘛。 |
| transcript.gazette[96].quality |
0.941 |
| transcript.gazette[97].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[97].start |
2026-03-18T10:52:37.141000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[97].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[97].end |
2026-03-18T10:52:40.643000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[97].text |
對，因為我們的預算都被砍掉了，本來去年我們要…… |
| transcript.gazette[97].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[98].speaker |
邱委員若華 |
| transcript.gazette[98].start |
2026-03-18T10:52:40.743000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[98].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[98].end |
2026-03-18T10:52:46.646000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[98].text |
沒關係，數發部和國科會再進行討論，提供本席AI算力基礎建設，尤其是能源韌性的評估報告，請兩週內提供。 |
| transcript.gazette[98].quality |
0.733 |
| transcript.gazette[99].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[99].start |
2026-03-18T10:52:46.646000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[99].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[99].end |
2026-03-18T10:52:58.518000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[99].text |
OK，謝謝，請委員多支持我們的預算，40片是前年的，去年我們要買100片，預算被刪掉了，所以我們去年1片都沒有增加，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[99].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[100].speaker |
邱委員若華 |
| transcript.gazette[100].start |
2026-03-18T10:52:58.518000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[100].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[100].end |
2026-03-18T10:53:06.889000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[100].text |
因為我們現在才40，我剛才提到了，現在很多企業都已經達到萬顆以上了，希望這方面可以提升，本席也會支持。 |
| transcript.gazette[100].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[101].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[101].start |
2026-03-18T10:53:07.530000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[101].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[101].end |
2026-03-18T10:53:08.872000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[101].text |
感謝委員的支持。 |
| transcript.gazette[101].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[102].speaker |
邱委員若華 |
| transcript.gazette[102].start |
2026-03-18T10:53:08.992000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[102].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[102].end |
2026-03-18T10:53:09.853000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[102].text |
再提供能源的韌性報告給本席。 |
| transcript.gazette[102].quality |
0.538 |
| transcript.gazette[103].speaker |
林部長宜敬 |
| transcript.gazette[103].start |
2026-03-18T10:53:10.233000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[103].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[103].end |
2026-03-18T10:53:10.373000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[103].text |
好，謝謝。謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[103].quality |
0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[104].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[104].start |
2026-03-18T10:53:10.474000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[104].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[104].end |
2026-03-18T10:53:10.914000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[104].text |
非常感謝邱若華委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[104].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[105].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[105].start |
2026-03-18T10:53:11.414000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[105].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[105].end |
2026-03-18T10:53:14.842571+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[105].text |
接下來邀請何欣純委員發言。 |
| transcript.gazette[105].quality |
0 |