| IVOD_ID |
167599 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167599 |
| 日期 |
2026-03-18 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-19-3 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
3 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-03-18T10:58:27+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-03-18T11:07:17+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:50 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/4e26a61b53ad6053fad6c669ed519588f85a32efe0b6ef7a4d1c9dfa77de2098dff3bbbc96e0e24c5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
謝衣鳯 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:58:27 - 11:07:17 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-03-18T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第3次全體委員會議（事由：邀請農業部部長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。） |
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好 謝謝主席 我想要請陳部長請農業部陳部長委員好 |
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陳部長早安我想要請問就是說你有提到說要追溯就是說調整天然災害的救度額度那針對氣候變遷所導致的研發性的災損那這個部分我們目前智慧化的APP它勘災的準確率為何因為你知道嗎它是延遲性的災損那是否能夠讓智慧化的APP能夠適用它的勘災 |
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第一個跟委員報告就是天氣型的採損跟災難型的採損我們陸續都一直在公告能夠減少勘災但是你所提到的一個重點就是所謂的延遲性的部分但是延遲性的部分以現在的科學技術它在某一個時間點才能夠判斷舉個例子現在芒果開花開得很漂亮但是它可能以後會落果所以現在目前延遲性的栽損是沒有辦法用 |
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智慧化的APP嗎對 用美榜好像智慧化APP但是我想我們的改良廠都會持續的關注然後會在第一時間如果說它的確會造成後續的延遲性災損的時候我們會儘早的去公告好 那再麻煩就是說我們全部的那個改良廠對於延遲性的災損要特別的注意好不好因為有時候不會在第一時間 |
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有有顯現嗎而是在就是災害的之後才會一兩個月以後才會我想我們改良廠的同仁都在這邊廠長都在這邊他們應該聽得到好好要麻煩就是要特別注意這個部分還有第二點就是現在 |
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我們知道中東的衝突不斷那全球的肥料市場都面臨了供應鏈斷鏈的風險因為何不知海峽它就是承載了三分之一的這樣子全球的肥料那我想要請問那台灣 |
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我們肥料會不會有問題 那肥料價格如何 因為現在全球的安價 液態安價有失控的情況 那會不會導致於我們肥料價格飆升 |
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我第一個謝謝委員對我們農民所需的肥料的一個關心那根據我們現在目前所掌握的資訊包括庫存還有在海上的這些肥料在運肥料原料的船我們的蛋肥的部分至少可以供應到8月甲肥的部分可以供應到10月然後磷礦的部分可以到12月那其他的磷肥可能到10月的部分所以再到半年的時間應該沒有問題但是我們不了解中東戰爭會持續多久 |
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那其實台灣的肥料的一個來源是多元化的我舉個您剛才說的義安的部分我們義安上半年特別在三月之前都是從中東進來的最後一艘船其實在中東戰事發生前就出來了那上半年是從馬來西亞跟 |
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馬來西亞跟印尼的部分是來源所以它不會跟中東有影響所以我們多元化的這些採買的這個國家可以讓我們更有韌性但是不可諱言的中東站是如果造成整個運輸的費用提高的時候那勢必會影響到肥料的價格 |
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那我想在COVID-19的這個過程中也遇到這種很艱鉅的運費高漲的部分那我們農業部一定秉持照顧農民的角度我想這個部分的價差我們一定會向行政院來呈報希望由政府來吸收這個價差要吸收嘛 對不對我想我們一定會去爭取對 我們會來爭取因為那個義安的價格它是國際的價格嘛 |
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不只是議案啦 我覺得比較擔心的是運費因為能源短缺運費變貴的時候造成成本上漲的時候那如果導致後續導致肥料可能會提高的時候我想我們會關注然後如果需要政府來協助我們一定義不容辭 |
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好那這個部分要麻煩注意喔就是要控制我們肥料的價格因為不然的話農民還是非常擔心我想我們一定會盡努力去做所以半年內是沒有問題的嗎是不是那是半年之後還要再後續再做觀察我們每個禮拜都會去盤點 |
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好 那就ART的部分我想請教一下因為去年我們就是說對於2025的這個 |
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的那個花生喔就是花生的部分喔就是去年已經都就是關於進口配額內的都已經就是開標了嘛對不對對已經開標了今年的部分都已經開標了對那問題是因為如果未來就是說就是零關稅可是目前國內的花生的這個產量已經 |
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以及就是說因應這個進口的這個都已經很多了我看到的是大概有12,290噸喔那還有就是農民他們也就是配合美國關稅去年美國關稅那就是我們也有按照那個美國關稅的這也跟農民收購所以導致今年的這個收購都已經都非常多那今年內應該還會不會再進口花生呢 |
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我第一個跟委員報告過往的花生都是從印度進來比較多大概6000多噸然後還有巴西阿根廷巴西佔了將近90%那美國的只進口調製的花生只有75噸但是不可諱言如果這個ART本身的內容後續還維持著的時候那相對的美國的價可能因為過往都沒有這個脫殼花生但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].start |
376.238 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].end |
389.988 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].text |
我們也評估了如果他從美國進來的時候那個價格會比國產的還低可能會造成某個程度的影響會造成國產的花生的影響但是我要跟委員報告就是我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].start |
391.845 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].end |
414.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].text |
臺灣的農業後續的不能再用價格去跟國際來競爭因為我們的成本都比較高的所以我們要變成用價值來做競爭表示說用品質跟我們的品牌來做區隔所以後續我想我們會趁這個機會去調整整個花生的產業結構我不要再讓農民自己在道路上曬花生 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].start |
415.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].end |
444.268 |
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我想我们会台湾的花生很好吃对是很好吃有它的香味我会送你我们那个彰化的花生超级好吃对所以我说台湾的花生有台湾的潜力那供应国内市场我希望说带动这样的一个品牌跟它的品质然后利用这种就是丝甲的收购的方式取代过去干甲因为干甲的部分农民要自己在道路上马路上晒花生嘛这个都是四五十年前一直延续的你讲的是未来嘛你讲的是未来对我们现在都在启动了 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].start |
444.568 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
469.785 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].text |
今年應該不會再進口 因為今年的國內的勾很多了我們也要趁這個機會去改善我知道 我說那是未來嘛 今年內不會再進口因為今年內的財量已經很多了它額度已經飆了齁 它不會說放棄這個額度的權利金而去採買美金那明年就是要怎麼樣子協助我們台灣的農民嗎對 所以我說今年就要啟動這種新的這樣的一個調整的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].start |
471.165 |
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493.196 |
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還有另外一個就是豬肉的問題如果美國豬零關稅的時候委員我想你一定喜歡吃台灣豬不會只是美國豬因為美國豬肉只佔全體消費的1%其實我想大部分的豬農都不用擔心因為整個豬肉的自給率大概是平均大概88去年比較低是83因為非洲豬的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].start |
494.296 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
514.862 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].text |
所以溫體豬肉跟豬肉的供應的型態台灣其實已經有它的黏著度啦所以美國要進來第一個要打敗加拿大那很難因為加拿大佔40%所以他必須要跟競爭對手我競爭以後才有機會影響到國內所以我想委員可以不用擔心豬肉的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].start |
515.342 |
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527.613 |
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我還是很擔心啊我怎麼可能不擔心我還是很擔心國產豬啊你只要每天吃台灣豬肉就不會有問題啊你如果帶頭吃台灣豬肉就沒問題啊我有啊 我常吃豬肉我已經天天吃豬肉了好 謝謝好 謝謝 |
| transcript.gazette[0].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[0].start |
2026-03-18T10:58:38.032000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[0].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[0].end |
2026-03-18T10:58:38.213000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[0].text |
謝謝主席。 |
| transcript.gazette[0].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[1].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[1].start |
2026-03-18T10:58:38.413000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[1].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[1].end |
2026-03-18T10:58:39.013000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[1].text |
我想要請陳部長。 |
| transcript.gazette[1].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[2].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[2].start |
2026-03-18T10:58:39.013000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[2].end |
2026-03-18T10:58:39.294000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[2].text |
請農業部陳部長。 |
| transcript.gazette[2].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[3].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[3].start |
2026-03-18T10:58:39.294000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[3].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[3].end |
2026-03-18T10:58:39.314000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[3].text |
委員好。 |
| transcript.gazette[3].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[4].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[4].start |
2026-03-18T10:58:48.564000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[4].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[4].end |
2026-03-18T10:58:49.005000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[4].text |
陳部長早安。 |
| transcript.gazette[4].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[5].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[5].start |
2026-03-18T10:58:49.605000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[5].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[5].end |
2026-03-18T10:59:08.938000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[5].text |
我想要請問，你有提到要追溯、調整天然災害的救助額度，針對氣候變遷所導致延發性的災損，這個部分我們目前智慧化的app勘災準確率為何？ |
| transcript.gazette[5].quality |
0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[6].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[6].start |
2026-03-18T10:59:09.098000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[6].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[6].end |
2026-03-18T10:59:17.263000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[6].text |
因為你知道它是延遲性的災損，是否能夠讓智慧化的app適用它的勘災？ |
| transcript.gazette[6].quality |
0.903 |
| transcript.gazette[7].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[7].start |
2026-03-18T10:59:18.784000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[7].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[7].end |
2026-03-18T10:59:26.646000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[7].text |
第一個跟委員報告，天氣型的財損跟災害型的財損，我們陸陸續續都一直在公告，能夠減少勘災。 |
| transcript.gazette[7].quality |
0.872 |
| transcript.gazette[8].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[8].start |
2026-03-18T10:59:26.646000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[8].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[8].end |
2026-03-18T10:59:37.768000+08:00 |
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但是你所提到的一個重點就是所謂延遲性的部分，但是延遲性的部分，以現在的科學技術，它在某一個時間點才能夠判斷。 |
| transcript.gazette[8].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[9].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[9].start |
2026-03-18T10:59:37.768000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[9].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[9].end |
2026-03-18T10:59:45.589000+08:00 |
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舉個例子，現在芒果開花開得很漂亮，但是它可能以後會落果，所以目前延遲性的災損是沒有辦法用…… |
| transcript.gazette[9].quality |
0.976 |
| transcript.gazette[10].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[10].start |
2026-03-18T10:59:46.329000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[10].end |
2026-03-18T10:59:47.610000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].text |
智慧化的app嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[10].quality |
0.625 |
| transcript.gazette[11].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[11].start |
2026-03-18T10:59:47.610000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[11].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[11].end |
2026-03-18T10:59:58.819000+08:00 |
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對，沒辦法用智慧化app，但是我想我們的改良場都會持續地關注，然後會在第一時間……如果它的確會造成後續的延遲性災損，我們會儘早公告。 |
| transcript.gazette[11].quality |
0.864 |
| transcript.gazette[12].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[12].start |
2026-03-18T10:59:59.139000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[12].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[12].end |
2026-03-18T11:00:06.525000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[12].text |
好，那再麻煩全部的改良場，對於延遲性災損要特別注意，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[12].quality |
0.962 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[13].start |
2026-03-18T11:00:06.525000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[13].end |
2026-03-18T11:00:07.525000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].text |
對，我想…… |
| transcript.gazette[13].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[14].start |
2026-03-18T11:00:06.706000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[14].end |
2026-03-18T11:00:13.574000+08:00 |
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因為有時候不會在第一時間顯現，而是在災害之後才會…… |
| transcript.gazette[14].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[15].start |
2026-03-18T11:00:13.574000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[15].end |
2026-03-18T11:00:14.756000+08:00 |
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對，可能一、兩個月以後才會…… |
| transcript.gazette[15].quality |
0.727 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[16].start |
2026-03-18T11:00:14.756000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[16].end |
2026-03-18T11:00:15.756000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].text |
對，才會…… |
| transcript.gazette[16].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2026-03-18T11:00:14.976000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[17].end |
2026-03-18T11:00:18.642000+08:00 |
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我們改良場的同仁都在這邊、場長都在這邊，他們應該聽得到。 |
| transcript.gazette[17].quality |
0.92 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2026-03-18T11:00:19.002000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2026-03-18T11:00:21.987000+08:00 |
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好，要麻煩特別注意這個部分。會。 |
| transcript.gazette[18].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2026-03-18T11:00:22.487000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2026-03-18T11:00:40.963000+08:00 |
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還有第二點，我們知道現在中東衝突不斷，全球的肥料市場都面臨了供應鏈斷鏈的風險，因為荷姆茲海峽承載了全球三分之一的肥料。 |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
0.873 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2026-03-18T11:00:42.104000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2026-03-18T11:00:47.963000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].text |
我想要請問臺灣的肥料會不會有問題？ |
| transcript.gazette[20].quality |
0.938 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2026-03-18T11:00:48.223000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2026-03-18T11:00:49.405000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].text |
肥料的價格如何？ |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2026-03-18T11:00:49.685000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2026-03-18T11:00:58.155000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].text |
因為現在全球液態氨價格有失控的情況，會不會導致肥料價格飆升？ |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-03-18T11:00:59.405000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2026-03-18T11:01:02.768000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].text |
第一個、謝謝委員對於農民所需肥料的關心。 |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
0.944 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2026-03-18T11:01:03.768000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2026-03-18T11:01:25.903000+08:00 |
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根據我們目前所掌握的資訊，包括庫存還有在海上的這些載運肥料原料的船，氮肥至少可以供應到8月，鉀肥可以供應到10月，磷礦可以到12月，其他的磷肥可能到10月，所以再半年的時間應該沒有問題。 |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
0.962 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2026-03-18T11:01:25.903000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2026-03-18T11:01:32.306000+08:00 |
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但是我們不了解中東戰爭會持續多久，其實臺灣的肥料來源是多元化的。 |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-03-18T11:01:32.386000+08:00 |
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2026-03-18T11:01:51.074000+08:00 |
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我舉個您剛才說的液氨，上半年、特別在3月之前液氨都是從中東進來的，最後一艘船其實在中東戰事發生前就出來了，而上半年的來源是從馬來西亞跟印尼，所以不會受中東影響。 |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
0.877 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2026-03-18T11:01:51.435000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
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2026-03-18T11:02:03.623000+08:00 |
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因為我們多元化向這些國家採買，可以讓我們更有韌性，但是不可諱言的，中東戰事如果造成整個運輸費用提高，勢必會影響到肥料的價格。 |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
0.877 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-03-18T11:02:05.023000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2026-03-18T11:02:21.514000+08:00 |
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在COVID-19時也曾遇到這種很艱巨的運費高漲問題，農業部一定秉持著照顧農民的角度，這個部分的價差我們一定會向行政院呈報，希望由政府來吸收。 |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
0.906 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-03-18T11:02:22.314000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
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2026-03-18T11:02:23.555000+08:00 |
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要吸收，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-03-18T11:02:23.895000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2026-03-18T11:02:24.636000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].text |
我們一定會去爭取。 |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-03-18T11:02:24.636000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2026-03-18T11:02:25.636000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].text |
要吸收液態氨…… |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-03-18T11:02:24.816000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2026-03-18T11:02:24.836000+08:00 |
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對，我們會來爭取。 |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-03-18T11:02:24.976000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
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2026-03-18T11:02:25.596000+08:00 |
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因為液氨的價格是國際的價格，即便是我們從…… |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
0.579 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-03-18T11:02:31.800000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2026-03-18T11:02:32.721000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].text |
不只是液氨…… |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-03-18T11:02:32.721000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-03-18T11:02:33.721000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
對，還有其他的。 |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-03-18T11:02:33.421000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2026-03-18T11:02:44.567000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
我比較擔心的是運費，因為能源短缺、運費變貴造成整個成本上漲，後續可能導致肥料價格提高…… |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.846 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-03-18T11:02:44.567000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2026-03-18T11:02:47.248000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
還有航運的成本，都會處理，是不是？ |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0.071 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-03-18T11:02:47.248000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2026-03-18T11:02:52.151000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
我們會關注，如果需要政府協助，我們一定義不容辭。 |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-03-18T11:02:53.552000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2026-03-18T11:02:56.774000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
這個部分要麻煩注意，就是要控制肥料的價格。好。 |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0.95 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-03-18T11:02:57.715000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2026-03-18T11:02:59.477000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
不然的話，農民還是非常擔心。 |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-03-18T11:02:59.937000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2026-03-18T11:03:01.498000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
對，我們一定會努力去做。 |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-03-18T11:03:01.518000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-03-18T11:03:04.981000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
所以半年內是沒有問題的，是不是？是。 |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-03-18T11:03:05.161000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2026-03-18T11:03:07.603000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
半年之後後續還要再觀察？ |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0.818 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-03-18T11:03:07.804000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2026-03-18T11:03:09.285000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
我們每個禮拜都會去盤點。 |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-03-18T11:03:12.208000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2026-03-18T11:03:34.233000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
就ART的部分，我想請教一下，花生的進口配額在去年（2025年）就已經開標了，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
0.848 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-03-18T11:03:34.233000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2026-03-18T11:03:34.393000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
對，已經開標。 |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-03-18T11:03:35.414000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2026-03-18T11:03:36.874000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
今年的部分都已經開標了。 |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-03-18T11:03:38.795000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-03-18T11:03:55.965000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
問題是如果未來零關稅，可是目前國內花生的產量以及因應進口的部分都已經很多了，我看到大概有1萬2,290噸。 |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
0.911 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2026-03-18T11:03:59.808000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2026-03-18T11:04:15.201000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
此外，配合去年美國關稅措施，我們也跟農民收購，導致今年已經收購非常多，今年內還會不會再進口花生呢？ |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
0.864 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2026-03-18T11:04:16.292000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2026-03-18T11:04:30.895000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
第一個跟委員報告，過往花生都是從印度進來比較多，大概六千多噸，還有阿根廷、巴西占了將近百分之九十，美國的只進口調製花生75噸。 |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0.855 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2026-03-18T11:04:30.895000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2026-03-18T11:04:51.204000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
但是不可諱言，如果ART本身的內容後續還維持著，相對的，因為過往都沒有脫殼花生，我們也評估了如果它從美國進來的時候，價格會比國產的還低，可能會造成某個程度的影響。 |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
0.986 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2026-03-18T11:04:51.204000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2026-03-18T11:04:54.066000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
會造成國產花生農受影響。 |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
0.818 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2026-03-18T11:04:54.066000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2026-03-18T11:05:08.507000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
對，但是我要跟委員報告，我覺得臺灣農業後續不能再用價格跟國際競爭，因為我們的成本都比較高，所以我們要變成用價值來競爭。 |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
0.981 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2026-03-18T11:05:08.967000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2026-03-18T11:05:21.050000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
假設用品質跟品牌來做區隔，所以後續我們會趁這個機會調整整個花生產業的結構，不要再讓農民自己在道路上曬花生。 |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
0.94 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2026-03-18T11:05:21.050000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2026-03-18T11:05:23.291000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
我們會用…… |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
0.25 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2026-03-18T11:05:23.291000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2026-03-18T11:05:24.332000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
臺灣的花生很好吃，你有沒有吃過？ |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2026-03-18T11:05:24.972000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2026-03-18T11:05:26.033000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
對，是很好吃，有它的香味。 |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2026-03-18T11:05:26.213000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2026-03-18T11:05:28.854000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
我可以送你我們彰化的花生，超級好吃。 |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2026-03-18T11:05:29.335000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2026-03-18T11:05:47.586000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
對，所以我說臺灣的花生有臺灣的潛力，供應國內市場，我希望帶動這樣的品牌跟它的品質，利用濕莢收購的方式取代過去乾莢，因為乾莢要農民自己在道路上、馬路上曬花生，這個都是四、五十年前一直延續的做法，我希望趁這個機會…… |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
0.579 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2026-03-18T11:05:47.846000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2026-03-18T11:05:48.446000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
你講的是未來。 |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2026-03-18T11:05:50.347000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2026-03-18T11:05:51.248000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
對，我們現在就在啟動了。 |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
0.4 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2026-03-18T11:05:51.568000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2026-03-18T11:05:54.430000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
今年應該不會再進口，因為今年國內的都很多了。 |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
0.95 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2026-03-18T11:05:54.550000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2026-03-18T11:05:57.152000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
雖然不再進口，但我們也要趁這個機會改善。 |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
0.611 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2026-03-18T11:05:57.352000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2026-03-18T11:06:00.314000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].text |
我知道，我說那是未來，可是今年內不會再進口。 |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
0.895 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2026-03-18T11:06:00.314000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2026-03-18T11:06:01.314000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].text |
今年內應該不會。 |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2026-03-18T11:06:00.454000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2026-03-18T11:06:02.635000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].text |
因為今年內的產量已經很多了。 |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2026-03-18T11:06:03.396000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[67].end |
2026-03-18T11:06:08.099000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].text |
因為額度已經標了，他不會放棄這個額度的權利金而去採買美國的。 |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
0.786 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[68].start |
2026-03-18T11:06:08.439000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[68].end |
2026-03-18T11:06:12.202000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].text |
明年要怎麼樣協助臺灣的農民？ |
| transcript.gazette[68].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[69].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[69].start |
2026-03-18T11:06:12.702000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[69].end |
2026-03-18T11:06:16.765000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].text |
對，所以我說今年就要啟動這種新的調整方式。 |
| transcript.gazette[69].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[70].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[70].start |
2026-03-18T11:06:19.326000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[70].end |
2026-03-18T11:06:23.228000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].text |
再來，另外一個就是豬肉的問題，如果美國豬零關稅。 |
| transcript.gazette[70].quality |
0.905 |
| transcript.gazette[71].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[71].start |
2026-03-18T11:06:24.728000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[71].end |
2026-03-18T11:06:47.298000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].text |
我想你一定喜歡吃臺灣豬，不會吃美國豬，因為美國豬肉只占全體消費的百分之一，其實大部分的豬農都不用擔心，整個豬肉的自給率平均大概88%，去年比較低是83%，因為非洲豬瘟的關係，所以溫體豬肉跟豬肉的供應型態，臺灣其實已經有它的黏著度。 |
| transcript.gazette[71].quality |
0.912 |
| transcript.gazette[72].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[72].start |
2026-03-18T11:06:48.818000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[72].end |
2026-03-18T11:07:01.862000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].text |
美國要進來，第一個要打敗加拿大，那很難，因為加拿大占百分之四十，他必須要跟競爭對手國競爭以後，才有機會影響到國內，所以我想委員可以不用擔心豬肉的問題。 |
| transcript.gazette[72].quality |
0.897 |
| transcript.gazette[73].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[73].start |
2026-03-18T11:07:02.342000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[73].end |
2026-03-18T11:07:04.984000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].text |
我還是很擔心，我怎麼可能不擔心？ |
| transcript.gazette[73].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[74].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[74].start |
2026-03-18T11:07:05.145000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[74].end |
2026-03-18T11:07:05.985000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].text |
我還是很擔心國產豬！ |
| transcript.gazette[74].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[75].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[75].start |
2026-03-18T11:07:06.125000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[75].end |
2026-03-18T11:07:09.188000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].text |
你只要每天吃臺灣豬肉，就不會有問題。 |
| transcript.gazette[75].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[76].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[76].start |
2026-03-18T11:07:09.188000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[76].end |
2026-03-18T11:07:10.188000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].text |
我們還是很擔心國產豬因應的問題。 |
| transcript.gazette[76].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[77].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[77].start |
2026-03-18T11:07:09.348000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[77].end |
2026-03-18T11:07:11.310000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].text |
你如果帶頭吃臺灣豬肉，就沒問題了。 |
| transcript.gazette[77].quality |
0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[78].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[78].start |
2026-03-18T11:07:11.470000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[78].end |
2026-03-18T11:07:14.053000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].text |
我有，我常吃豬肉，我已經天天吃豬肉了。 |
| transcript.gazette[78].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[79].speaker |
謝委員衣鳯 |
| transcript.gazette[79].start |
2026-03-18T11:07:14.573000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[79].end |
2026-03-18T11:07:14.593000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].text |
好，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[79].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[80].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[80].start |
2026-03-18T11:07:14.593000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[80].end |
2026-03-18T11:07:14.613000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].text |
好，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[80].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[81].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[81].start |
2026-03-18T11:07:15.113000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[81].end |
2026-03-18T11:07:17.684429+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].text |
非常謝謝謝衣鳯委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[81].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[82].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[82].start |
2026-03-18T11:07:17.984429+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[82].end |
2026-03-18T11:07:19.698714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].text |
部長請先回座。 |
| transcript.gazette[82].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[83].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[83].start |
2026-03-18T11:07:19.998714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[83].end |
2026-03-18T11:07:23.141571+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].text |
下一位請陳超明委員質詢。 |
| transcript.gazette[83].quality |
0 |