| IVOD_ID |
167503 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167503 |
| 日期 |
2026-03-16 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-19-2 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
2 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-03-16T11:12:54+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-03-16T11:23:33+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:39 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/e545302d1642c5f6b5453d915d0d7e140bc6757ec415edbebfd7ce027fbc82e0165d56d12b5959f05ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳超明 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:12:54 - 11:23:33 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-03-16T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第2次全體委員會議（事由：邀請國家發展委員會主任委員列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。） |
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陳昌明委員時間6加2主席啊首先要請我們國會會議主委 |
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首先有一個問題要請教你就是我們國內的財經雜誌對我們國內企業對於政府推動AI的一種進行調查那所有調查顯示來 |
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業六成的企業都知道我們現在政府在推動AI政策但是大多數人對於政府推動AI的進度及方法及辦法並不是很熟悉這很重要的一個觀點所以有三成對於政策都沒有辦法感受到 |
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那在AI硬體及軟體的方面九成的企業最關心的就是電力充值以後記得九成的企業在關心我們的電力是否有能充值的能夠使用那34%的業者認為AI人才不只是最大的挑戰其中傳統產業認為最嚴重 |
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包括高科技業即使要投資的話成本非常高以資料都尚未系統化問題都存在在這邊那我現在第一個問題請教你 |
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伊朗、美國、以色列已經放肆戰爭在了這個低延政治很厲害現在原油或是天然氣的都是大漲那我們一般的資料說中油只能儲存14天 |
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那像現在這樣的狀況你們只有去應對只有高價去跟人家調度我們的天然氣我相信有應該我們存量過但是天然氣的存量不夠你有沒有什麼應對的措施 |
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會不會到時候變成斷氣啊?不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會不會 |
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五月六月也不會 因為常常的都一直在做調度大家都很擔心啦 心驚膽跳的你不想要人空子是天然氣發揮掉的 你不想廣元工會要失財 |
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不會啦 因為經濟部都已經在協調中然後我想到一個問題你現在推動AI的轉型是全民共識但是你們宣導的力道非常的弱我看到你們在報章雜誌都在寫你們的政績偶要怎麼做沒有幾個偶 我會看 |
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這跟委員報告我們那個AI新時代建設在1月的時候經過行政院核定之後的話我們3月4月初會出一支影片尤其那些什麼電視台啦名嘴在講話叫他們做一件功德你去買時間叫人家說AI對台灣未來發展有重要沒重要大家去聽不然你只有這樣 |
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我講做功德,不然有些都是胡言亂語啦是是是這說得對,回補台灣一下把AIS當成全面的共識台灣要推動這樣的計畫台灣才能轉型,容易站在有利的競爭地位好不好我們會加強廣宣啦只是說也要請委員支持因為我們有一些廣宣的費用一直沒有辦法通過你的任務裡面,除了五大的信賴產業 |
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你最重要就是推動AI新十大建設你也到韓國考察 認為AI對於國立理想的關鍵性在於應用能夠落地 這個最重要這個會應用落地非常重要我之前有跟你們講過 目前的分工軟體的話在市委部 白宮 白鋭在你們經濟部 |
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在那個經濟部啊你是國外的主導單位啦我會說這裡面有偏差我覺得事務部啊你給他專門去做打造的軟體如何去仿如何各種能查信得到因為所謂AI的產業裡面落地的時候要跟實際在配合 |
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你這裡有特別說到產業AI化AI產業化你說有智慧應用還有關鍵知識還有智慧的基盤我帶你這個車要賣這麼多 |
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所以你在說AI要產業落地的話現在作為我們堅實的後盾裡面培育新世代人才培育實力產業實作人才高專業的人才 |
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那關鍵技術你要曉得很重要這裡面一定要去突破不然我們機器人沒有用一個頭腦MVD還是MRE他們都在發明這個我們台灣要做有困難 |
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關鍵的技術在哪裡?就是眼睛跟頭腦跟手腳這要像人的靈魂,技術是太重要所以我們用機器人,這很重要不然你要用金工、造物、產業都在使用這個技術一定要來推動當然人才很重要,技術要靠人才 |
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所以在這我一直告訴你們要實際的推展尤其百工百業在用 |
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有,經濟部都有在做啦,經濟部推的很有用硬體台灣大概很強,要來追有困難但是在軟體的應用裡面真的要加強有有有,經濟部都有在推AI市產線不是啦,我講的是司衛部來的你那個軟體我講啦,沒有助力我現在再跟你講一下,我了解AI懂AI的人,不一定懂得技術,記得這句話 |
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懂AI的人不一定懂得技術你只懂AI你不懂得產業的技術的我們AI推動的人不是你所以這個要突破另外有一點非常重要 |
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懂AI也懂得產業機制的人他擔心他個人公司的競爭力怕技術外領能逃倉博所謂AI的落地應用你真的要想出一套好的辦法去解這個是實地在推展目前所遭遇的困難 |
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這個我會跟那個數方部協調我看你是在做事情啦 人家都很相信你來 再來我一個問題我一直跟你講陶瓷廟大溪谷計畫我們職人科學研究第二期你們當然是適合計畫的人但是我常常叫你們出來跟我協調職人科學研究第二期大溪谷計畫國科會不敢當主管機關他怕說要拖地 |
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這個國科會沒有擔當 只有給學士機構那些國科會我實在不放心因為為什麼 他們已經成立習慣在南部的開發都是用公有地台場的土地但是在北部沒有北部沒有我們要產生一個方法 方式來解決 |
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我幫你擺脫整個變了 你都這樣不回應我看你是實在是做事的人不像做官的人我以為你做官應該要有什麼做事啊有啦 有在做事啊 現在都沒什麼工作會議啊 開那些協調會議啦我告訴你 我自己要求兩件 |
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如果可以的話,我們不要國科會當主管機關,我們由經濟部當主管,你給我們報到行政院,我們就先來開花。不是這樣說,你協調的單位這樣就沒人要做事了嘛,三個人,靠水沒水好啊。 |
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我只拜託你一項,你應該替我們去爭取,跟行政院說,引渡這個困難,國科會不會期間中說,也沒有那樣的人才,也沒有那樣的人力,乖乖的不會地方的協調。 |
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因為那是屬於 國科會單位主管機關授權給苗栗政府開發他要30公頃50公頃的肉地 我們給他 談好價格給他這樣不跟事情會突破 不能說那裡不行 這裡不行要做多少人做什麼事情就是要突破困境 解決問題 才是做官的能手 |
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財政真正能替百姓服務 我只拜託這兩項我會持續追蹤 要不然我開始幹掉啊你這個政府無能 這樣做這個問題沒辦法讓人改觀我跟你講我還要問一下 委員這要喊國科會你喊到國科會 國科會的態度很明顯嘛為什麼那麼怕 你不做別人可以做啊國科會我沒有辦法督導他啦怎麼沒有辦法 這個政府沒有辦法 |
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我感覺這樣政府是無能的應該可以去協調怎麼講沒有辦法我們在法國安教我們也是要去一再加油三的協調 |
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你這有誰想要來做什麼事情?我本來對你期望很高,今天我要繼續執行,但是我們的灶位站起來了。你看,今天穿著西裝黑衣,老命在微笑,叫我要下執行台,下次站久一點啦。好,謝謝。 |