| IVOD_ID |
167491 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167491 |
| 日期 |
2026-03-16 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-19-2 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
2 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第2次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-03-16T10:19:16+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-03-16T10:29:41+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:25 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
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| 委員名稱 |
陳亭妃 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:19:16 - 10:29:41 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-03-16T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期經濟委員會第2次全體委員會議（事由：邀請國家發展委員會主任委員列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。） |
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下位質詢陳廷輝委員待會四點半要休息在主席質詢完之後我們休息七分鐘好 下位質詢請陳廷輝委員謝謝主席我們請國發會主委國發會葉主委委員好 |
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主委我今天要跟你談兩個台南現在非常重要的一個交通建設一個就是我們的捷運那我相信我們國發會就是know-how在整個關鍵的一個決定性雖然國發會現在都說尊重行政院的意見可是我勢必要讓你知道我們現在整個我們的捷運的問題關鍵在哪裡 |
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否則如果在討論的時候 你們還是說我尊重行政院那行政院也不了解地方的狀態 |
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然後整個案件是退來退去你知道嗎 這個案件退來退去是影響到我們的時間耶一條捷運藍線從賴清德院長的時候 核定了可行性評估到了現在今年10月才有可能要進行發包才有可能喔 如果時間在延 |
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有可能今年看不到喔沒有那個跟委員報告那個行政院在去年10月21號已經合訂沒有捷運藍線我現在跟你講的是捷運藍線已經都合訂都已經經過了8年你要聽我說8年我們第一條的捷運藍線今年在10月才有可能要進行發泡才有可能喔 |
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如果時間再拖可能今年捷運那些也看不到可是你知道嗎這才一段欸今天捷運如果沒有環狀不要說環狀我們只期待半環狀你沒有把環狀系統做出來它的運用就不會出來它的功能性就不會出來可是你知道 |
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中央因為不了解地方所以都說哇 你們要先從這個舊城區開始先推可是你知道嗎在整個藍線它的問題是我們必須整個串聯來 那個主委你看一下我已經都為你畫好了我希望未來如果再討論到我們捷運的問題請你站在我們地方的立場 |
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我跟您報告捷運第一期攔線只有一小段喔可是一小段會有運量嗎不會櫻花連接永康東區的轉運站仁德的轉運站就這樣 |
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他會有醞釀嗎 不會他必須在延伸所以藍線第一期的延伸線第一期那個藍線的延伸線重不重要 很重要他要接到高鐵 |
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他要接到高鐵你把轉運站再接到高鐵這個運量會不會出來一定會出來而且這邊施工不會有很大的問題我們先要從施工方便而且不會造成地方很大的困擾這邊要先推動再來我再跟您報告深綠線深綠線也是連接當你 |
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這個藍線延伸出來之後他的深綠線接到哪裡接到南科接到南科重不重要很重要我們知道高科技人才在很多地方從新竹從我們桃園從我們北部下來他做了高鐵 |
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它直接可以做我們的捷運穿梭在南科還有我再跟您報告因為它還可以延伸到我們的南科四期就是我們沙崙綠能科學園區這個是我們現在在推的也是我們的南方大溪谷其中之一我們整個AI的運算中心都在這裡面 |
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最終不重要 這個整個產值就出來了 運量就出來了啊還有一條叫紅線 紅線是要接高雄台南接高雄 未來可以延伸到哪裡延伸到我們的高雄機場捷運所以這整個半黃狀 你看整個量能是不是出來了 |
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哪有運鏈會不足哪有沒有經濟效益我不知道中央是怎麼考慮的可是你知道我們卡關多久了案子退來退去退來退去到目前還叫我們再修正好現在整個這幾條線包括省旅線包括藍線延伸線包括紅線目前都在地方政府依照我們中央所說的修正要修正 |
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我很擔心在這修正上去不知道要給我們什麼樣的軟釘子吃可是你知道嗎一條藍線如果沒有這些配套的延伸半環狀它的整個機能跑不出來它的效能跑不出來 |
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這些可行性評估都已經過囉我們議會都過囉已經過了好幾年囉現在在卡關好 我們還有綠線我們這個會期 議會的會期會通過這條綠線的可行性評估可是才是議會通過還要經由交通部這是在第二階段第一階段的部分 我們這幾條 |
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都還在卡關所以我今天會用這個時間跟我們主委報告就是說我要讓你知道我們的地緣關係我們的地理環境尤其我們現在整個科技量能在放大台積電我們的護國神山所以從南科一南科二南科三再來到南科四起這個整個串聯我相信這個半環狀對我們太重要了 |
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所以 主委我今天會用時間來跟你報告這個事情是希望你更了解我們地方的需要 |
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可以嗎就這個部分我們會協調交通部因為那個台南捷運紅線跟深綠線啊以及黃線這些都還在交通部那一邊沒有那個藍線延伸線黃線還在做可行性評估藍線在國發會藍線延伸線對在國發會但其他的都在交通部沒錯我們會協調交通部盡快所以主委我會跟你說這幾條串聯起來他的半環裝量能就出來了 |
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是不是如果你沒有你光一條藍線你的量能在哪裡完全沒有啊你如果沒有藍線延伸線接到高鐵然後呢再一條深綠線接到我們的南科然後南科123就可以直接跟南科四起銜接然後未來 |
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我們的捷運 我們機場捷運高雄我們要留一個空間 對不對我這樣子串聯起來而且這裡目前我們的民眾的一個壓力沒那麼大所以我們如果不趕快動工當周邊的新市鎮再上來你很難動 你很難動 |
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所以主委拜託幫忙盡快溝通現在大家都在踢皮球都在踢皮球但是都不了解地方所以拜託這個要趕快跟我們核定因為我們還要再送下一段 |
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你這前面沒有完成你怎麼送下一段全部卡關好拜託然後另外一個我講的就是說第二個就是我一直在爭取的螳鐵五分車狼帶的地方創生 |
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這個是目前我已經爭取了我們的鐵大發展基金來支應補助經費我們整個掀起計畫的規劃那我們後面就是整個周邊我們的創生計畫目前台南市政府也已經送了整個計畫都修整了依照我們這一次我所提出的唐鐵五分車路線掀起計畫的這樣的一個脈絡 |
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做串聯做連結不是各自做各自的好之前都是各自過各自的我覺得太浪費我們的預算了所以我們從這個114年10月27號開始一路走一路走走到今年 |
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一路走走到今年終於看到一點點一點點一點點曙光也就是我們已經爭取了鐵道發展基金來支應整個掀起計畫所以後續包括所有已經送到我們國發會的整個所有的創生計畫拜託我們要有一個平台跟各個單位去做 |
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推出的動作否則如果沒有的話這個就一樣就是卡在那邊好主委再拜託這個都是牽扯到我們西北地方的發展跟我們整個西南所有環狀區域的一個發展所以這個拜託謝謝好謝謝陳委員謝謝葉主委接下來有請 |
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謝謝主席。 |
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請國發會主委。 |
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主席 |
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請國發會葉主委。 |
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委員好。 |
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主委，我今天要跟您談兩個臺南現在非常重要的交通建設，一個就是捷運，我相信國發會就是know how，在整個關鍵的決定上，雖然國發會現在都說尊重行政院的意見，可是我勢必要讓你知道現在整個捷運的關鍵問題在哪裡，否則在討論的時候，如果你們還是說：我尊重行政院。 |
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行政院也不了解地方的狀態，然後整個案件是退來退去，你知道嗎？ |
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這個案件退來退去是影響到我們的時間耶！ |
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一條捷運藍線從賴清德當院長的時候核定了可行性評估，到了現在，今年10月才有可能要進行發包，才有可能喔！ |
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如果時間再延，有可能今年看不到喔！ |
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沒有，跟委員報告，行政院在去年10月21號已經核定了。 |
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沒有，我現在跟你講的是捷運藍線都已經核定了，而且已經經過8年了，你要聽我說。嗯。 |
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8年了，我們的第一條捷運藍線在今年10月才有可能要進行發包，才有可能喔！ |
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0.867 |
| transcript.gazette[12].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
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2026-03-16T10:21:09.942000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[12].end |
2026-03-16T10:21:16.426000+08:00 |
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如果時間再拖，可能今年捷運藍線也看不到，可是你知道嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[12].quality |
0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[13].start |
2026-03-16T10:21:16.426000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[13].end |
2026-03-16T10:21:16.726000+08:00 |
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這才一段耶！ |
| transcript.gazette[13].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[14].start |
2026-03-16T10:21:17.967000+08:00 |
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2026-03-16T10:21:32.096000+08:00 |
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今天捷運如果沒有環狀，不要說環狀，我們只期待半環狀，你沒有把環狀系統做出來，它的運量就不會出來，它的功能性就不會出來。對。 |
| transcript.gazette[14].quality |
0.963 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
陳委員亭妃：可是你知道，中央因為不了解地方，都說 |
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2026-03-16T10:21:37.960000+08:00 |
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2026-03-16T10:21:41.303000+08:00 |
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你們要先從這個舊城區開始推。 |
| transcript.gazette[15].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
陳委員亭妃：可是你知道，中央因為不了解地方，都說 |
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2026-03-16T10:21:42.043000+08:00 |
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2026-03-16T10:21:43.704000+08:00 |
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可是你知道嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[16].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
陳委員亭妃：可是你知道，中央因為不了解地方，都說 |
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2026-03-16T10:21:45.326000+08:00 |
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2026-03-16T10:21:50.550000+08:00 |
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藍線的問題是我們必須整個串聯。 |
| transcript.gazette[17].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
陳委員亭妃：可是你知道，中央因為不了解地方，都說 |
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2026-03-16T10:21:50.870000+08:00 |
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2026-03-16T10:21:52.811000+08:00 |
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主委，你看一下，我已經都為你畫好了，我希望未來如果再討論到捷運的問題，請你站在我們地方的立場。 |
| transcript.gazette[18].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
陳委員亭妃：可是你知道，中央因為不了解地方，都說 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2026-03-16T10:22:02.553000+08:00 |
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2026-03-16T10:22:12.516000+08:00 |
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我跟你報告，捷運第一期藍線只有一小段，一小段會有運量嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
0.92 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
陳委員亭妃：可是你知道，中央因為不了解地方，都說 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2026-03-16T10:22:12.516000+08:00 |
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2026-03-16T10:22:21.699000+08:00 |
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不會，因為它連接永康、東區的轉運站、仁德的轉運站，就這樣它會有運量嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[20].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
陳委員亭妃：可是你知道，中央因為不了解地方，都說 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2026-03-16T10:22:21.699000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2026-03-16T10:22:31.366000+08:00 |
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不會，它必須再延伸，所以藍線第一期的延伸線重不重要？ |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
0.913 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
陳委員亭妃：可是你知道，中央因為不了解地方，都說 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2026-03-16T10:22:31.806000+08:00 |
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2026-03-16T10:22:40.465000+08:00 |
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很重要，它要接到高鐵，你把轉運站再接到高鐵，這個運量會不會出來？ |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
0.964 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
陳委員亭妃：可是你知道，中央因為不了解地方，都說 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-03-16T10:22:40.465000+08:00 |
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2026-03-16T10:22:52.157000+08:00 |
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一定會出來，而且這邊施工不會有很大的問題，我們現在要從施工方便，而且不會造成地方很大困擾的先推動。 |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
陳委員亭妃：可是你知道，中央因為不了解地方，都說 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2026-03-16T10:22:52.157000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2026-03-16T10:23:04.667000+08:00 |
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再來，我跟您報告深綠線，深綠線也是要連接，當藍線延伸出來之後，深綠線接到哪裡？ |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
0.971 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
陳委員亭妃：可是你知道，中央因為不了解地方，都說 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2026-03-16T10:23:04.667000+08:00 |
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2026-03-16T10:23:08.390000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].text |
接到南科，接到南科重不重要？ |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
陳委員亭妃：可是你知道，中央因為不了解地方，都說 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-03-16T10:23:08.810000+08:00 |
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2026-03-16T10:23:27.004000+08:00 |
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很重要，我們都知道，高科技人才在很多地方，從新竹，從桃園，從北部下來，他坐了高鐵，直接就可以坐我們的捷運穿梭在南科。 |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
0.92 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
陳委員亭妃：可是你知道，中央因為不了解地方，都說 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2026-03-16T10:23:28.405000+08:00 |
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2026-03-16T10:23:48.911000+08:00 |
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還有，我再跟您報告，因為它還可以延伸到我們的南科四期，就是沙崙綠能科學園區，這個是我們現在在推的，也是南方大矽谷其中之一，我們整個AI的運算中心都在這裡面，所以重不重要？ |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
0.948 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
陳委員亭妃：可是你知道，中央因為不了解地方，都說 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-03-16T10:23:49.831000+08:00 |
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2026-03-16T10:23:52.953000+08:00 |
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這整個產值就出來了，運量就出來了啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
陳委員亭妃：可是你知道，中央因為不了解地方，都說 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-03-16T10:23:53.133000+08:00 |
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2026-03-16T10:24:02.799000+08:00 |
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還有一條叫紅線，紅線是要連接高雄，臺南接高雄，未來可以延伸到哪裡？ |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
0.966 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
陳委員亭妃：可是你知道，中央因為不了解地方，都說 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-03-16T10:24:02.799000+08:00 |
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2026-03-16T10:24:11.645000+08:00 |
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延伸到高雄機場捷運，所以這整個半環狀，你看整個量能是不是出來了？ |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
0.966 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
陳委員亭妃：可是你知道，中央因為不了解地方，都說 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-03-16T10:24:13.233000+08:00 |
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2026-03-16T10:24:16.496000+08:00 |
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哪有運量不足，哪裡沒有經濟效益？ |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
陳委員亭妃：可是你知道，中央因為不了解地方，都說 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-03-16T10:24:17.216000+08:00 |
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2026-03-16T10:24:21.359000+08:00 |
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我不知道中央是怎麼考慮的，可是你知道我們卡關多久了？ |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
陳委員亭妃：可是你知道，中央因為不了解地方，都說 |
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2026-03-16T10:24:22.020000+08:00 |
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2026-03-16T10:24:27.204000+08:00 |
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案子退來退去、退來退去，到目前還叫我們再修正。 |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
陳委員亭妃：可是你知道，中央因為不了解地方，都說 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-03-16T10:24:27.664000+08:00 |
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2026-03-16T10:24:47+08:00 |
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好，現在這幾條線，包括深綠線、藍線延伸線、紅線都在地方政府，依照中央所說的要進行修正，我很擔心這一次修正提上去不知道要給我們什麼樣的軟釘子吃？ |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0.891 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
陳委員亭妃：可是你知道，中央因為不了解地方，都說 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-03-16T10:24:47.901000+08:00 |
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2026-03-16T10:24:50.523000+08:00 |
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可是你知道嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
陳委員亭妃：可是你知道，中央因為不了解地方，都說 |
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2026-03-16T10:24:50.523000+08:00 |
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2026-03-16T10:25:03.194000+08:00 |
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一條藍線如果沒有這些配套的延伸，半環狀的整個機能跑不出來，它的效能跑不出來，這些可行性評估都已經過了，我們議會都過了，已經過了好幾年了，到現在還在卡關。 |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.928 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
陳委員亭妃：可是你知道，中央因為不了解地方，都說 |
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2026-03-16T10:25:03.194000+08:00 |
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2026-03-16T10:25:06.076000+08:00 |
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好，我們還有綠線，我們議會這個會期會通過這條綠線的可行性評估，可是才只有議會通過，還要經由交通部……現在…… |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0.87 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-03-16T10:25:06.096000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2026-03-16T10:25:06.536000+08:00 |
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這是在第二階段。對。 |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-03-16T10:25:06.636000+08:00 |
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2026-03-16T10:25:56.347000+08:00 |
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第一階段的部分，我們這幾條都還在卡關，所以我今天會用這個時間跟主委報告，就是要讓你知道我們的地緣關係、地理環境，尤其我們現在整個科技量能在放大，我們的護國神山台積電……所以從南科一、南科二、南科三，再來到南科四期，這整個串聯，我相信這個半環狀對我們太重要了。 |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0.965 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-03-16T10:25:59.450000+08:00 |
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2026-03-16T10:26:09.286000+08:00 |
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所以主委，我今天會用時間來跟你報告這個事情，是希望你更了解我們地方的需要，可以嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
葉主任委員俊顯 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-03-16T10:26:09.286000+08:00 |
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2026-03-16T10:26:16.908000+08:00 |
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就這個部分，我們會協調交通部，因為臺南捷運紅線跟深綠線以及黃線，這些都還在交通部。 |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-03-16T10:26:17.608000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-03-16T10:26:22.049000+08:00 |
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沒有，是藍線延伸線，黃線還在做可行性評估。 |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0.944 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
葉主任委員俊顯 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-03-16T10:26:23.909000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2026-03-16T10:26:24.309000+08:00 |
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藍線在國發會。 |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-03-16T10:26:24.309000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2026-03-16T10:26:25.990000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
我是說藍線延伸線…… |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0.625 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
葉主任委員俊顯 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-03-16T10:26:25.990000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2026-03-16T10:26:28.490000+08:00 |
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對，在國發會，但其他的都在交通部。 |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-03-16T10:26:28.730000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2026-03-16T10:26:29.390000+08:00 |
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對，沒錯。 |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
葉主任委員俊顯 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-03-16T10:26:29.390000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2026-03-16T10:26:31.771000+08:00 |
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但我們會協調交通部儘快審核。 |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
0.692 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-03-16T10:26:32.591000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-03-16T10:26:38.792000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
主委，我跟你說，這幾條串聯起來，它的半環狀量能就出來了，是不是？ |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
0.926 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2026-03-16T10:26:39.673000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2026-03-16T10:26:44.038000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
如果沒有，光一條藍線，量能在哪裡？ |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2026-03-16T10:26:44.038000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2026-03-16T10:26:44.819000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
完全沒有啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2026-03-16T10:26:45.640000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2026-03-16T10:27:06.118000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
如果沒有藍線延伸線接到高鐵，再一條深綠線接到南科，讓南科一、二、三期可以直接跟南科四期銜接……未來機場捷運連接高雄，我們要留一個空間，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
0.871 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2026-03-16T10:27:06.178000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2026-03-16T10:27:06.399000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
就這樣子串聯起來。 |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2026-03-16T10:27:06.399000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2026-03-16T10:27:29.448000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
而且這裡目前民眾的壓力沒那麼大，我們如果不趕快動工，當周邊的新市鎮再上來，你很難動，所以拜託主委幫我們儘快溝通。 |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
0.902 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
葉主任委員俊顯 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2026-03-16T10:27:29.448000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2026-03-16T10:27:30.448000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
好，我來協調交通部。 |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2026-03-16T10:27:30.308000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2026-03-16T10:27:38.931000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
現在大家都在踢皮球，但是都不了解地方，所以拜託這個要趕快幫我們核定。好。 |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
0.938 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2026-03-16T10:27:39.472000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2026-03-16T10:27:46.415000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
因為我們還要再送下一段，這前面沒有完成，你怎麼送下一段？ |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2026-03-16T10:27:47.356000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2026-03-16T10:27:49.237000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
全部卡關。 |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
葉主任委員俊顯 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2026-03-16T10:27:49.237000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2026-03-16T10:27:50.237000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
我會跟交通部協調。 |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2026-03-16T10:27:49.237000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2026-03-16T10:27:50.297000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
好，拜託！ |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
葉主任委員俊顯 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2026-03-16T10:27:50.297000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2026-03-16T10:27:51.297000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
沒問題。 |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2026-03-16T10:27:50.597000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2026-03-16T10:29:12.541000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
另外，第二個就是我一直在爭取的糖鐵五分車廊帶的地方創生，這個部分目前我已經爭取了鐵道發展基金來支應補助經費做我們的先期計畫規劃案，後面就是整個周邊的創生計畫，目前臺南市政府也已經送了，整個計畫都修整了，依照這一次我所提出的糖鐵五分車路線先期計畫這樣的一個脈絡做串聯、做連結，不是各自做各自的，之前都是各自做各自的，我覺得這樣太浪費預算了，所以我們從114年10月27號開始，一路走，走到今年，終於看到一點點曙光，也就是我們已經爭取了鐵道發展基金來支應整個先期計畫，所以後續包括已經送到國發會的所有創生計畫，拜託！ |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
0.922 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2026-03-16T10:29:12.541000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2026-03-16T10:29:26.823000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
我們要有一個平臺去催促各個單位，否則如果沒有的話，這個就是一樣卡在那邊，主委，再拜託！好。 |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
0.872 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
陳委員亭妃 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2026-03-16T10:29:26.823000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2026-03-16T10:29:35.965000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
這個都是牽扯到我們西北地方的發展跟整個西南所有環狀區域的發展，所以這個要拜託你，謝謝！ |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
0.95 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
葉主任委員俊顯 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2026-03-16T10:29:35.965000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2026-03-16T10:29:36.965000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].text |
好，謝謝委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
0.2 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
主席（鍾委員佳濱代） |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2026-03-16T10:29:36.405000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2026-03-16T10:29:36.525000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].text |
謝謝陳委員，謝謝葉主委。 |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
主席（鍾委員佳濱代） |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2026-03-16T10:29:36.545000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2026-03-16T10:29:36.605000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].text |
接下來請邱召委質詢。 |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
0.444 |