iVOD / 167447

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IVOD_ID 167447
IVOD_URL https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167447
日期 2026-03-10
會議資料.會議代碼 院會-11-5-2
會議資料.會議代碼:str 第11屆第5會期第2次會議
會議資料.屆 11
會議資料.會期 5
會議資料.會次 2
會議資料.種類 院會
會議資料.標題 第11屆第5會期第2次會議
影片種類 Clip
開始時間 2026-03-10T09:17:52+08:00
結束時間 2026-03-10T09:50:59+08:00
影片長度 00:33:07
支援功能[0] ai-transcript
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委員名稱 王鴻薇
委員發言時間 09:17:52 - 09:50:59
會議時間 2026-03-10T09:00:00+08:00
會議名稱 第11屆第5會期第2次會議(事由:一、本院國民黨黨團、台灣民眾黨黨團,建請院會作成決議:「115年度總預算案中,具有急迫性及攸關重大民生之新興資本支出及新增計畫(如附件),本院同意先行予以動支。」俾以補救行政院怠於推動政務,消極不作為之行徑,影響國計民生。是否有當?請公決案等3案。二、對行政院院長提出施政方針及施政報告繼續質詢。三、3月6日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。)
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transcript.whisperx[2].text 妳拿得出證據嗎 立刻拿出證據啊拿出來妳怎麼辦沒有啊 妳就度悠悠之口啊拿出來妳怎麼辦 妳昨天說我貪賭百萬沒有 我說如果妳拿不出證據 妳就涉及貪賭那今天要不要學生也教她妳去看清楚 妳拿出證據啊
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transcript.whisperx[3].text 你趕快拿出證據啊我拿得出來你怎麼辦你不要跟我囉嗦這些嘛你立刻拿出來啊我請問你啊我請問你為什麼昨天華航不說明 限女儀不義是不是所以我想請問你說你是自費行程那請問一下 院長你已經支付了嗎是
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transcript.whisperx[5].text 哪個價錢哪個價錢不是說要拿出證據來嗎昨天說的一千萬到今天一百五十萬這件事最簡單的事情
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transcript.whisperx[6].text 這就是最簡單的事情那你就趕快拿出來啊你請行政院趕快公佈這個單據我覺得才能夠渡悠悠之口大家都在質疑的事情是院長有沒有公器私用的問題院長如果要澄清就拿出證據來隔天行政院
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transcript.whisperx[7].text 有一整天超過了現在從星期六到今天已經超過了76小時你可以拿出證據來你竟可以來渡外界的悠悠之口但是院長始終只是讓行政院來發一個新聞稿而華航又不願意證實當然會坐實了外界對這件事情的疑慮
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transcript.whisperx[8].text 私人的費用為什麼要向委員提供證據華航每一件包機都要向委員提供證據嗎
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transcript.whisperx[9].text 你不是要澄清外界對你的質疑嗎你不是要澄清外界對你的質疑你還拿出一個這個牛皮子彈可以把它拿出來請行政院來說出來我如果這裡面是真的委員要不要負責我如果裡面是真的委員要不要負責我沒有X光眼我沒有辦法透視你告訴我我如果是真的你怎麼辦院長這是你對大家的負責你對社會國人的負責你坐飛機你有沒有付錢為什麼變化後會替你負責
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transcript.whisperx[10].text 瘦死人了我坐飛機我自己負責你有沒有付錢你有沒有用特權你有沒有公器私用為什麼我要後面替你負責我自己坐飛機為什麼要跟你報告我是你的長官嗎我是你的接護人嗎自己的責任自己負啦不出責任你不出這些資料你昨天為什麼說我負責
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transcript.whisperx[11].text 我已經講過了 如果你提不出證據就有涉及貪瀆的事情 對不對如果提得出呢那你趕快把證據提出來啊 不要再囉嗦廢話你廢話什麼啊你一下子用這個血口噴的方式 太久了 太多次了 太多人了
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transcript.whisperx[12].text 我要代表行政部門向你提出這樣的抗議不能再隨便你這樣學考騙人你抗議什麼啊 你抗議什麼 你不要惱羞成怒啊幹嘛惱羞成怒呢 請問一下部長 院長我再繼續請教好來我請教部長 國防部長來你不敢問了嗎因為這件事情 這大概還是跟你有關啊來 我請教一下部長
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transcript.whisperx[14].text 因為私人行程就不能用行政專機嘛我是包機不是專機那我就問嘛就我的了解應該這是華航的班機好這所以正是這是私人包機私人包機是吧我想我們的他就不是行政專機嘛我的了解這是處於中華航空的
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transcript.whisperx[15].text 那我請問一下因為是從松子部起飛那請問一下松子部它是軍用機場今天也有民眾打電話問松子部說我們包機就是民眾包機可不可以使用松子部
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transcript.whisperx[17].text 民航局的協議因為松山機場就是一個軍民通合用的一個機場所以我們台北的航空站因為停機位置的一個規劃那依照民航局使用我們這個機率的協議書的規定他都可以向中興部來商借停機品同樣相對的我們的軍機西腰山洞譬如說我們也會商借他們的停機品
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transcript.whisperx[18].text 只有松山機場才有這種事情嗎民航機可以使用我們的居用機場嗎只有松山機場可以這樣嗎因為松山機場就是一個居民合用的機場我們請問一下船員說明航班的這個相關管制的權責都是屬於台北航空站
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transcript.whisperx[21].text 生出其他的節外的生枝節外生枝結出來所以一切都非常的審慎在進行如果看到今天事後這樣的一個現象
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transcript.whisperx[22].text 大家在這裡找這樣的問題的時候我更證明我請求這個中指部是對的因為我只要經過中山家長我只要新聞被播出來我可能整形都有問題
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transcript.whisperx[28].text 韓院長你可以忍受一個人說你貪圖百萬嗎容我跟王委員還有卓院長說明一下我們整個總諮詢都是吸引委員所提問的請院長閣員就諮詢的範圍來答覆大家一定要相互尊重理性的溝通
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transcript.whisperx[29].text 謝謝院長我還是非常希望行政院對於我們的秩序有基本的尊重其實你剛剛可以看得非常清楚是我們卓院長自己心虛先攻擊另外我想請教非常重大的問題
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transcript.whisperx[30].text 今天呢其實各大報的頭版幾乎都是能源問題就是我們的油價已經標國際油價標破100美元之多我不曉得卓院長你還笑得出來喔
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transcript.whisperx[31].text 昨天早上還能笑得出來啊你要講的能源你要講的油價我可以清楚的回答你降到90塊了我現在跟你講嘛另外呢就是昨天整個國際的股市暴跌但是今天確實今天有回升因為川普講說這個戰爭快要打完了所以我想請教一下我想請教一下我本來就說這兩天其實都非常關鍵
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transcript.whisperx[32].text 剛才我講說院長說私人行程這是你的休假時間老師說啦高市長苗有休假嗎李在民有休假嗎 沒有他們都在召開緊急會議如何回應能源問題啊
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transcript.whisperx[33].text 他們不敢休假啦好 請問一下來來來 部長請問一下部長請教一下我們現在 因為你昨天說我們現在呢已經調度了20艘船因為我們大概有22艘的LNG的船
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transcript.whisperx[35].text 那個距離我們只有百分之三十而已啊其他百分之七十才是所以你這邊在這邊保證因為你本來說如果呢沒有辦法調度成功可能四月份的就要全部採用燃煤來發電所以你在這邊可以保證我來請教你你可以保證在這一次的中東地區的戰爭不管他什麼時候結束
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transcript.whisperx[36].text 我們絕對沒有斷氣危機絕對不會全部採用燃煤發電你可以保證嗎我有這樣的信心那如果不行的話怎麼辦看你怎麼辦我就怎麼辦所以你們永遠都是這樣為什麼如果這樣的話我去當經濟部長
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transcript.whisperx[37].text 如果該我負責的責任我來當經濟部長我就會跟大家講說如果我今天講完全我們不會我們不會全部採用燃煤來發電的話我做不到我就下台
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transcript.whisperx[38].text 因為對我是經濟部長但是問題我不是經濟部長我為什麼要為卓榮泰院長的事情來負責我為什麼為你的事情來負責好那另外請教一下就是我們有沒有可能釋出我們的戰略出遊
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transcript.whisperx[39].text 因為現在全世界都在討論這個事情比如說韓國有這樣的考慮而且他要做一個所謂的油價上限就是他要設一個油價上限我們其實在星期六也就是院長去看球的當天我們其實做了一件事情我是覺得很不錯的
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transcript.whisperx[41].text 在這個時候最容易有預期漲價的心理因為這幾天呢我們可以看到就是在尤其星期五星期六都大排長龍尤其那種小客車就是營業小客車因為對他們來講會是很大的成本所以請問一下部長我們會不會釋出我們的戰略出油
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transcript.whisperx[42].text 幫委員因為我們是平穩汽油價格所以每個禮拜我們現在在院長的指示下大概禮拜六禮拜天我們就會決定下禮拜而且原則上來講都會按照好那再請教所以你目前沒有計劃釋出戰略儲油是不是因為我們現在我們現在的這個油法律上規定是要60天但是我們現在的儲備有150幾天
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transcript.whisperx[43].text 所以那個空間蠻大的好所以目前沒有那另外請教一下因為有可能因為國際油價仍然蠢蠢欲動那在上個禮拜其實有一個問題就是很多的因為這個
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transcript.whisperx[44].text 石油价格跟天然气价格你们可以宣布但是呢桶装瓦斯桶装瓦斯是一个地方啊就是很多自己瓦斯行会决定所以现在有传出别说南部的瓦斯行有加20块一桶瓦斯已经涨价20块
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transcript.whisperx[45].text 那也有北部的網社好像說你叫下一桶的時候呢你的價格可能就還要增加到多少錢就一定漲價所以對於很多的小吃店餐飲業他們就很害怕所以我在這邊請教部長第一個我們天然氣價格暫時是不是繼續動漲是不是繼續動漲
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transcript.whisperx[46].text 天然氣的部分現在目前來講是沒有那麼瓦斯所以瓦斯的價格也應該是屬於動漲的狀況因為我知道台塑化已經漲價了因為你剛才講20塊那個是台塑台塑我們
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transcript.whisperx[47].text 因為你們在協調對我們盡量去協調好了因為他是民間的為什麼我們在這邊總質詢那麼重要我們就是來問很多民眾的質疑或者他們的問題所以我想請問一下有一下待會我問你天然氣越涉及桶裝瓦斯我們動漲到什麼時候我們目前預計動漲到什麼時候
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transcript.whisperx[49].text 所以我剛剛講啊我支持你們星期六就宣布那個油價讓大家不要再繼續一直排一直排一直排然後我也支持因為打起來它的波動就會非常非常大所以也暫時的動漲天然氣的價格對不對好那另外請教一下時間暫停一下我請我們財政部時間暫停麻煩請財政部長備詢
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transcript.whisperx[50].text 財政部一個問題就是最近這個台股在今天當然我剛剛沒有再繼續看因為我知道就是一開盤漲了1000點左右那麼我們國安基金因為前陣子宣布退場所以國安基金在這一波的波動中我們國安基金是不是會進場來穩定市場
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transcript.whisperx[51].text 這一次的波動是因為中東的戰事以及油價可能會上漲這些因素的影響那財政部會密切的關注整個股市的一個情況國安基金會不會在這邊step by這個進場要經過國安基金委員會來決議
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transcript.whisperx[52].text 所以我們這個部分我們會持續的關注如果有必要的時候才會再招待所以部長不排除啦因為這次還是 因為我們不曉得什麼時候結束我們會持續的關注這個股市的動態不排除國安基金會伺機進場好 謝謝部長另外再請教院長和那個經濟部長這個其實有很多人非常關心
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transcript.whisperx[53].text 院長在去年五月份的時候宣布了我們核電走入歷史因為核三廠完全的都除役了去年五月十七號核三廠二號機然後在今年的二月十號你又公開說全面接受新式核能技術就重新擁抱了核電要重新擁抱核電
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transcript.whisperx[55].text 做了一個新型的托克馬克的一個發電機組也都在延期當中所以現在聽起來你還是屬於一個這個認數的階段而已這是研發的過程怎麼叫認數另外我請教我另外請教比較實質具體的因為最近台電也好經濟部也好都有特別提到核二廠
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transcript.whisperx[56].text 跟河山厂河山现在就说跟原厂在做规划而且说准备把这个计划书在三月份就是再运转计划准备三月底前送河安会所以我想请问河山厂如果你们的评估是安全无虞的话有没有可能在今年底之前
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transcript.whisperx[61].text 那看這個自主安全檢查要更換多少節目要花多少錢 你不能完全沒有概念啊我們從來沒有經驗過 我們沒有辦法在這裡說從來不規劃 從來沒有去評估過還是跟原廠有做一個討論好 那我提供這個金額 這金額呢
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transcript.whisperx[63].text 這是當時就說為什麼核二廠也要讓他研議啊核三廠也要研議啊如果要重新讓他除役啊如果要讓他研議的話我們要花150億我們要花300億結果我們現在開始做從前計畫要不要花錢要不要花到這個規模的錢我們講了多少次除役是法律的規定
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transcript.whisperx[64].text 當時包含卓業長也上街頭說我是人我反核好像如果你不反核你就不是人結果
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transcript.whisperx[65].text 不就是反核嗎核四公投那時候是反核四公投部長你搞不清楚這是當年很更早的時候不是在核四公投好我要講的就是我們錯誤的能源政策所謂的非核家園政策已經讓我們看到現在整個我們的能源結構如此的脆弱
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transcript.whisperx[69].text 說破嘴說大家一定不能完全的放棄核電何市長是誰封存的啊何市長是誰封存的不是就是你上街頭說我是人我反核嗎所以是誰封存的所以你又再找馬維拉囉民進黨執政十年執政十年再繼續找馬英九當馬維拉你執政十年是空氣嗎
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transcript.whisperx[70].text 所以我要講的就是錯誤的能源政策比貪污更可怕今天就是因為非核家園造成台灣現在整個能源的脆弱胡亂的指責比無知更無知
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transcript.whisperx[71].text 你們最無知啊對啊 胡亂的指責是誰啊你們最無知啊我可不可以講一分鐘今天如果不是你無知 請問一下你跟西屋簽什麼約啊你跟青宣什麼約 你跟奇藝圈什麼約啊非核家園啊 繼續抱住你的反核神主派啊為什麼不繼續抱住你的反核神主派啊還在那邊強詞奪理這就是民進黨自己的政策是錯誤的 還要強詞奪理
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transcript.whisperx[72].text 我回答就是說強者奪利不回答就是黑箱 這就是你們的作風好 我再來請問一下時間暫停一下請一下張中部部長
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transcript.whisperx[73].text 麻煩請交通部長備詢這時候我可以講一下嗎現在時間暫停暫停我可以講一下嗎你講你講這一次的戰爭的發生不管你有沒有可能都遭遇到下時間暫停不能占用我的時間好吧不要占用我的時間因為你想的話就不能就不能計時時間繼續好請問一下部長在去年去年
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transcript.whisperx[74].text 你上任之後大家一直談到就是我們的觀光觀光局很慘然後我們每一年的來台旅客人總數一直沒有辦法達到我們的目標然後我們的國旅元年也破功了
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transcript.whisperx[75].text 整個提振觀光每次都說觀光國家對然後你說要爭取高端客等等之類的但是我們看不到我們觀光人數的增加因為我自己所在的選區有很多的觀光產業所以我想請問我想請問
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transcript.whisperx[76].text 你們就沒有到你們的那個什麼目標嘛每一次都是跳票你的目標設定一千萬一度來達成部長我給你一點一分鐘我給你一分鐘時間你講你觀光做得多好說你觀光做得好棒棒你講讓我們所有的觀光用者來聽看看
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transcript.whisperx[77].text 好 報告委員你講不出來了喔所以我在這邊要特別的利用我總質詢的時間提醒部長觀光真的要實作不要用什麼就是
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transcript.whisperx[78].text 這個通訊啊什麼我們手機啊然後這個東西就說有觀光人數增加不要做這種虛視虛假掩飾太平正視我們現在的觀光問題好不好我為什麼利用我的總諮詢時間拜託我們能夠正視我們現在的觀光產業我們現在很多的我們現在很多的景點數字增加有沒有增加是有依據的
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transcript.whisperx[79].text 高雄的五星級飯店都關門啦院長請你們有一點側影之心請你們有一點能夠關心大家整體的住宿率是提高的民宿也增加了接近三分之一的數量相當多所以我們的供給量增加了不少在供給量增加的狀況底下我們的住宿率還是往上提升的委員
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transcript.whisperx[80].text 再來您剛說的公安課的部分,國外公安課來台灣每一年增加在疫情之後每一年增加,去年增加幾十萬,前年增加上百萬而且我們現在在歐美的旅客,包含菲律賓的旅客來台灣都增加雙位數以上,都超過疫情之前
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transcript.whisperx[81].text 我們東南亞觀光的旅客在駕降中我給你們一個數字喔在去年我們的觀光人數也好 金額也好都是逆差的狀況對不對包國雲 您知道美國跟中國 加拿大 澳洲都是逆差的嗎
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transcript.whisperx[82].text 我請問一下 台灣不是希望觀光立國嗎你今天在比論喔 你要比論嗎所以我要講的就是喔如果你們還是不能夠去正視你們的問題你先等一下喔另外 我要跟
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transcript.whisperx[83].text 就是院長反映的一點因為當然這個部分很多是司法院的部分但是我覺得這涉及社會觀感當時我也有問過院長就是太子集團的詐騙集團當時有一個就參效交保就是他的特助參效交保你當時說你也很生氣
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transcript.whisperx[84].text 好 我現在告訴你太子集團現在九個高級幹部全部交保全部都交保在台灣洗錢107億元其中一個幹部他交保的他的那個理由是什麼他說他要回家照顧他們家的烏龜啊
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transcript.whisperx[85].end 1891.821
transcript.whisperx[85].text 如果烏龜沒有他照顧會死掉啊這樣的理由也可以說得出來太子集團根本就是我們打詐不利一個整個詐騙洗錢的一個大家生物痛絕結果全部幹部全部交保
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transcript.whisperx[86].end 1916.42
transcript.whisperx[86].text 過去我們在政治的案件裡面 壓了多少人是不是 現在有沒有法國部長自己跑出來了好 再來 我們一直在講說要抓共諜 抓共諜當時有很多的民進黨的黨工或者是曾經在我們像我們的國安會也好或外交部也好
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transcript.whisperx[87].end 1923.699
transcript.whisperx[87].text 结果最近包含在国安会和外交部的和人节还有一个秋市
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transcript.whisperx[88].end 1952.968
transcript.whisperx[88].text 有没有违反社会观感的问题太子职业的胶帕是把容额持续每几天都把胶帕弄好这个胶帕最后我想每一年考虑考虑还没有判判因为判判不判因为非常厉害所以应该要提出判判太太看了全部胶帕吗
transcript.whisperx[89].start 1956.074
transcript.whisperx[89].end 1966.346
transcript.whisperx[89].text 確實是司法院的問題但是我們要有作為而且你們現在難道你們司法院沒有什麼大法官都幫你們的是不是所以你要幫他們這種重大的
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transcript.whisperx[90].text 好 謝謝