| IVOD_ID |
167434 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167434 |
| 日期 |
2026-03-03 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-5-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期第1次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期第1次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-03-03T17:07:05+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-03-03T17:23:37+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:16:32 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://h264media01.ly.gov.tw:443/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/321e35c043cc325b750a09f4948144eb05351cf5c593b4e3b151ec866a2b73e8165d56d12b5959f05ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
邱志偉 |
| 委員發言時間 |
17:07:05 - 17:23:37 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-03-03T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第5會期第1次會議（事由：一、行政院院長提出施政方針及施政報告並備質詢（2月24日下午）。二、行政院院長提出臺美關稅談判結果及其影響專案報告並備質詢（3月3日）。） |
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好 謝謝主席是不是請行政院卓院長麻煩再請卓院長備詢這個會兩種截然不同的資訊風格我風格大概是比較理性比較溫暖好 這個先從您的報告結語Page 19 |
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從19頁您的結語來看 第一個問題請教卓院長您的結語提到過去一年即使面對國際局勢變化全體國人百工百業共同努力經濟成長率8.63%出口達到6407.5億美金 |
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在一個相對險峻的一個產業經營環境一個國際貿易環境我們依然能夠達到經濟成長達到8 接近9在世界是名列前茅最起碼亞洲第一吧超越日韓也是15年來我們的最高是啊所以出口是以創歷年來的清高面對過去一年險峻的經營環境跟國際貿易形勢的變動情況之下 |
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新的一年我認為是相對和緩雖然依然嚴峻變數依然存在相對和緩度好對於新的一年剛過年結束這個卓院長我對您的談判團隊是以他們為榮 |
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他們過去一年從去年4月2號開始到今年2月13號簽訂ART將近一年的過程是不眠不休真的是用盡全力 |
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我跟委員報告今天早上副院長還跟我說他到現在還很難晚上入眠他還在過美國時間所以我覺得非常非常以他們為榮也非常非常敬佩所以對國家利益對國家的未來他們只能放在前面為了國家未來的競爭力為了國民生活的福祉為了經濟發展他們不眠不休全力以赴個人選舉算什麼呢 |
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國會議員不能把科學做小國會議員也要跟行政團隊一樣是關注國家的未來競爭力國民生活福祉跟產業競爭力對不對所以對期許未來新的一年這個總理長你跟你優秀團隊我對你們覺得百分之百的信心 |
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您認為新的一年我們表現會不會超越去年經濟成長率又增高我們出口也會再創新高新的一年我們在一月份的出口繼續創新高 |
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而且我們的股市發展到這一兩天之前我們是一直一直的創新高那這一兩天因為國際局勢的發展我們還是撐住我們基本所預先的一些研判這表示我們的經濟體質已經達到一種相對性穩定的狀況之下那因為我們經濟成長發展得這麼好政府應該更有多的能量時間把經濟發展的成果公平分配給所有世界 |
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所以預算就應該趕快省讓行政部門有更多的資源或是韓辦的籌碼去做努力去為國家為人民做努力預算不省國防預算不通過這個對國家未來是很致命的影響對人民的安全也是非常重要的打擊很遺憾的 這問題是在國會 |
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所以主委長你認為在新的一年從第一個月份開始我們依然這個勢頭一直往上但是也很慶幸我們聽到禮拜五國防的特別條例將行赴委那無論他赴委的版本有多少至少行政院版本赴委下去就代表國會有機會來看到行政院版本的內容我們就有機會來做說明 |
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說明了之後我認為有相當的把握可以說服國會來支持向國家安全所需接著下去中央政府總預算也應該盡速的復違我們才能做更多社會公平分配的重要事項希望國會能夠切實檢討繼續往善良的方面前進是 謝謝委員我們看第一張圖就是整個過去一年的談判過程 |
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4月1號宣布的時候我們是32%加MFN那種條件是這個對所有的產業這個信息面是很大的打擊很嚴苛對不對 相對其他我們的相對競爭股但是從過去一年韓漢團隊不眠不休全力以赴的情況之下一輪 二輪 三輪 四輪 五輪 |
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到第四輪到去年8月7號我們從32%到20%對不對好最重要是到第五輪到第六輪第六輪就是台美這個投資合作備忘錄MOU對不對1月15號的時候好 |
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1月15號這個簽訂MOUMOU的這個成果啊在您的報告有提到就說MOU232232優惠不受影響這個對於這個法美國這個最高法院的判決無涉232條款沒有錯吧 |
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好 那這個MOU的成果包括你們報告裡面提到這個半導體衍生品一定關稅一定額度免關稅額外15%還有相關的營運所需要原料設備責任 |
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都豁免外關稅這些依然有效對不對是這依然有效另外MOU也確定台美雙向的投資機制這個投資機制有兩類大概我想這個主委很清楚一個是2500是企業自主投資另外一個是所謂的信保對不對好這個是承諾是不是依然也不變是如果 |
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能夠確保我們已經得到的談判最優惠的待遇那談判是雙向是互相的投資也是雙向互相的所以我們會履行我們的條件也希望美國履行他的條件所以這個內容就會是生效的這個所謂的投資的未來承諾或者雙向投資的機制會不會受到聯邦最高法院的約束 |
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232的部分是不受影響那投資機制呢投資機制包含在裡面也不受影響我們也會確實去按照雙方要共同遵守如果這個ART的部分 |
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有任何的變動那會牽涉到比較複雜的結果所以我們希望一次也依照原來談定的協議互相遵守來生效我還沒談到ART就是到2月12號這個台北ART簽訂15%沒有疊加對不對是所有這個逆差國中最優惠的待遇232條款也是最優惠的待遇這個是非常難能可貴的這個成就 |
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所以你看這個賭 你看這個談判歷程你會覺得很感動一個化不可能為可能 一個化把最不利的條件變成最有利的條件如果換成別的談判團隊 不可能到這種成果所以我們要給他好彩 要鼓勵 他們精神讓我們覺得非常感動 |
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所以早上我也說了我們除了對談判協議的內容得到最優惠的待遇我們感到非常慶幸之外我們也真的向國人展現我們是最專業的談判團隊所以真的以你們為榮然後這個ART的成果就是說15%不疊加另外這個2072項2072項書面產品豁免對等關稅 |
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那這個有沒有受到影響我想一定受到影響這有部分受到影響那受到影響他反映在哪裡反映在這個2月24號122條款他加徵現在目前是10%加疊加嘛共計150天150天就是5個月從2月20號公佈5個月就是到7月24號對不對 |
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它是暫行性的關稅7月24號到期之後它有說會提高到15% |
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美國川普總統已經宣布說要到15%但是還沒有進一步的生效可預期在不久的未來可能會到15%這也是階段性的安排這個部分會影響到我們這個豁免的這個項目裡面豁免的項目裡面我們短掃了大概有400-500項總共剩下1649項豁免的這個項目 |
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大概少了400多家 豁免的部分就是原來是針對我國豁免的項目有些他現在是開放全世界的豁免所以我們相對競爭性就不見另外有一部分是對我們豁免的 他現在取消了豁免我們變成10家MFN所以我們的競爭性也受到一些傷害所以我們希望回到原來的ART的內容對我們豁免的部分要維持下去但您覺得 |
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598.612 |
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回到ART的所有談判的內容或是協議的內容你們覺得可能性大不大我覺得可能性是存在的而且依照美國現在發表出來的一些訊息以及全世界國家跟它現在互相之間的一些訊息都希望維持原來既有的談判內容讓它繼續生效如果這個基礎之上那我們就更有機會能夠確保已經獲得了最優惠的待遇 |
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所以曾立軍副院長要繼續留在韓漢的韓隊裡面 |
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他會繼續在談判團隊這段時間這個未來也是一個關鍵啊未來能不能確保R的內容能夠繼續去生效繼續維持因為未來還可能面對301這個冒掉232的項目擴大這也是新的挑戰如果這個談判團隊終於換手當然楊振寧談判團隊我也非常覺得對他放心我也覺得非常信任他他的專業能力當然我覺得是非常非常厲害 |
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到現在這個階段鄭麗君副院長帶領談判團隊這個工作沒有任何的改變想到他們努力啊真的以他為榮我真的覺得非常非常感動我不曉得這個韓院長韓院長 |
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韓院長我很感動不曉得您會不會感動時間暫停 對不起邱委員我說對於談判代表過去一年來所做的努力跟奉獻個人覺得非常感動也以他們為榮那卓院長希望怎麼樣韓院長你覺得是不是以他們為榮OK 你要擁抱一下卓院長嗎所以你也以他們為榮嗎我們都以所有認真的公務員我們都以他們為榮我們要問談判長一個掌聲 |
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這個連韓院長都對整個談判團隊以最大的肯定以他們為榮那接著請教對農產品那我想這個陳部長也在麻煩請農業部長備訓這個當然我的選區是屬於飛都會區農業很重要當然這個R之後所122條款那當然農業部有做相關的這個評估 |
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農業部的評估你們這個相關的立場評估好像也沒有什麼相對應的這個因應方案因為ART跟你122這個條款是這個差距很大有很大的內容差別對整體農產品這個消滅會有很大的這個差異我想請教一下農業部陳部長您覺得對於如果適用122未來可能會更嚴苛 |
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那對台灣的農業產品這個消美這個我們有沒有更多的這個協助農業的做法我想跟委員做兩個面向的說明就是現在122條款本身我們是跟去年相比因為R的現在還沒有生效就是要跟去年相比那去年是20 |
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有疊加然後現在是10%也有疊加但是在去年的時候除了絕對關稅也要看競爭對手國的相對關稅那以蝴蝶能來講荷蘭在去年的時候是15%我們是20%所以我們是相對略適 |
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但是在122條款裡面同樣都是15%疊加我們跟荷蘭就是在立足點平等所以我們的相對的競爭優勢有比去年還好這第一件事情第二件事情就是在ART裡面我們得到了27項專屬的豁免那蝴蝶蘭就是零 |
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那胡言然是零這個部分並沒有不見因為針對ART裡面的內容我們正在跟美國積極的確認能夠確保我們談判的內容是可以執行的 |
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所以最希望我們還是要Lost art的內容即便是現在122條款所產生的這個也比去年的狀況還好我覺得還是會受到影響對農業的協助我想因為關稅本身在去年4月以前我們很多關稅都是零關稅 輸美都是零關稅那現在有關稅對於農民本身的確是一個負擔 |
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但是相對的這個部分我想在整個全球性的一致性的這樣的關稅之下我們的立足點是平等的時候那相對的我們會持續用我們現在的基金我相信農業部已經有做最好的準備對 我們有用相關的基金也會持續的去爭取他的支持好 謝謝陳部長最後一個問題想請教經濟部龔部長 |
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我也跟院長做個說明螺絲扣件或者鋼鋁這個部分並沒有在所謂的豁免自列鋼鋁232還是用50%的關稅當然對台灣金屬扣件鋼體業是一個很大的負擔 |
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那二五戰爭之後這個歐洲市場也沒有了亞洲市場被中國侵蝕了所以全球的六大洲市場大概只剩美國所以美國的關稅又那麼高就接受到中國這個非關稅的這個干擾我們的擴建的確面臨到寒冬針對金屬擴建在關稅上我們有沒有什麼未來爭取的方向跟努力的目標那是國務院長那國務部長是 |
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報告委員所以這一次就是說除了我上一次9月3號有去高雄之外那這一次本來那個ART簽訂以後因為就像您講的它50沒有改變所以我2月9號又下去一次跟他們一些座談那好在是說扣間業者他們能力也非常的競爭條件或者是競爭能力也非常 |
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980.301 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].text |
國外 國外 |
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好 謝謝邱志偉委員質詢 謝謝卓院長 相關部委首長貝勳 謝謝我們謝謝范雲委員 謝謝廖先祥委員 謝謝謝龍 |