| IVOD_ID |
167428 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167428 |
| 日期 |
2026-03-03 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-5-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期第1次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期第1次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-03-03T15:19:30+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-03-03T15:35:28+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:15:58 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
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| 委員名稱 |
吳宗憲 |
| 委員發言時間 |
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| 會議時間 |
2026-03-03T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第5會期第1次會議（事由：一、行政院院長提出施政方針及施政報告並備質詢（2月24日下午）。二、行政院院長提出臺美關稅談判結果及其影響專案報告並備質詢（3月3日）。） |
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賴慧元委員請準備謝謝院長 我們麻煩院長麻煩再請卓院長備詢 |
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那個諮詢開始之前我還是先代表宜蘭的鄉親對院長表達肯定還有感謝過年那個時候院長有特別有拍板定案就是宜蘭到羅東的這個高價化的這個計畫那當然我們希望就是說今年是馬年那接下來我們可以快馬加鞭能夠趕快讓這個計畫能夠趕快促成否則那個當地這個線內的交通還是有蠻 |
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蠻多大家有很多的抱怨那另外也對於這個行政團隊的感謝因為過去一年我其實我一直積極在推動幾個東西那行政團隊也給我蠻多的幫助就像那個國道5號那個東山交流道還有這個南方澳漁港的那個漁船上架場的設置 |
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行政團隊其實都有給予蠻多協助的這個部分先謝謝院長另外對於這次基層經貿談判團隊在美國壓力下那還能夠盡力的為台灣爭取一些空間這部分我們當然也是要對於這個辛勞給予肯定這部分先跟院長報告 |
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我想今天我們提到我們來談這個ART的事情那依據這個條約締結法五國條約締結法那這個ART那個台美對等貿易協定這個本來就是要送到立法院審查所以今天我們才會一起在這個地方那這個當然也是國會實質審查的一環 |
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那這次呢比較意外的就是說美國司法對於IPA的違憲那美方現在又改用這1974的貿易法案第22條的這有關臨時關稅的徵收甚至現在還有說法就是說可能會上調到15所以當然立法委員的立場我們當然是要替全國人民把關 |
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那院長在2月21號你們的官網有寫到這個臨時性的關稅10%這個部分你們認為說衝擊影響有限而且你們都會持續的關注當然你們還有再提到就是說將來我們可能還會面臨到 |
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301條款或是232條款的這些問題所以等於是外部的風險以及非常多的不確定性都還在持續的上升那美國他們的法源也在翻轉中但是你也是一直呼籲說國人要相信美方相信這個協議會被尊重那在我的立場我當然會擔心說我們會不會搞到最後這個對等變成是美國說了算美國說了就叫做對等 |
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這是我的擔心這是我對於未來的擔心那再來就是您的報告也寫得很清楚就是美方還在研議中研議完會通知我們那不就代表目前還沒有一個具體的做法他們的具體做法我們還不知道那現在如果說要我們相信或叫國會背書 |
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那我也會擔心說那這個是對等嗎這個會不會是更高的一個風險所以我們今天一直講說我們要相信美方我們要積極爭取但是這個部分我是希望能夠提供您希望您能夠就兩個部分能夠再用力再給我們一些答覆但第一個在目前LRT的基礎上面有沒有把10%這個部分還有 |
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上調到15%將來有可能性這個臨時關稅上調15%或者是有可能轉向301對中長期的這個風險情境的評估一起納入這個產業的衝擊報告的評估裡面因為我看到你們有提到有智庫啦那這個部分我想這幾個情境的風險還是要讓國人知道好不好這個部分要請人要做到 |
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第二個就是說這個對等的意思啊如果是將來美方如果違反這個協定的話那我們的我們的底牌在哪裡我們有什麼武器可以因應我們的反制工具是什麼那這個反制工具多久內可以啟動這個部分也是我所希望知道的那到底我要來確認一下我們這個ART到底有沒有如同他的名詞所說的是一個對等 |
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我是比較在意這個部分因為我看了一下那個經濟日報的社論其實他有提到啊他是說什麼台灣跟這個ART期存在一些誤判的問題啦而且這是很多產業界擔心的因為他們總是擔心說一下拉高這一下提高那個會不會將來他的利潤會被吃乾媽淨這個是大家所擔心的沒關係我等一下會把一些問題提出來 |
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那再來就是我們這次那個協定的7.4條的第二項其實有一個這個你們看一下那個PowerPoint上面有他其實有提到這是協定的內容其實不應限制或以其他方式阻礙一方代表或領域或當局為糾正不公平貿易的行為應進行的進口激增等等這些 |
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類似你們看這個文字好了我就不再念出來那這個問題是出在說因為這個第二項寫得很清楚不應阻礙或限制一方代表那這個一方就代表不是只有美方我方也可以嘛對不對我想這個很清楚 |
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對不對 院長是這樣嗎這個讓副院長來說明因為談判的每一個條文 每一條每一點都是自製的徵手我今天很善意的非常簡要的跟委員回應就是通常這個第七節Session 7它主要都是這個協定後去履行公關的這個法律安排那通常這一條比較是一般性的這個國內法律權利的保留條款它其實指的就是說美方它保有它的政策 |
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當然我方也是保有我方的法律 |
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跟法規的條款所以這是一個比較一般性的一個法規條款謝謝副院長我這很清楚聽得很清楚好那美方有那請問我國呢因為他是叫做一方嘛他不叫美方嘛那依據這個條文的規定是這個規定是一方那一方也包括我國也是其中的一方那請問一下我國在面對這樣的客觀狀況的時候我們能夠採用什麼樣的措施請問一下 |
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那這個一方當然就是指從每一方來看所以這個沒有問題這個在一般的法律條文裡面他基本上就是一個雙方有他國內的相關的法律條文你沒有回答到我的問題我的意思是說因為他是寫一方嘛那代表美方跟中華民國嘛那請問一下我們有什麼樣的權益可以使用有什麼樣的法律依據可以使用 |
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就是包含這個任何的法律人權基於選舉政委可以備詢 沒問題 您請上對 那個委員 那個有一些法條問題政委非常熟 原則非常熟時間繼續 謝謝委員這一方是指雙方 |
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不是不是 這個不是我的問題嘛我一直說一方是代表美方跟中華民國我是說我方可以採取什麼樣的動作嗎我方就是說當我們認為美國的產品有進口激增的時候我們可以採取WTO上下的救濟措施例如進口限制或是Safeguard或是Anti-Dumping或是Subsidy他講的是這種 |
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我方仍然保有我國國內法律保護我國受公平貿易的相關的法律的效力所以我今天就是在問這個問題就是我方到底有什麼樣的反制措施那因為美方的話我們現在動不動就聽到美方說有301.2.32等等的很多的武器要來面對對付其他國家那我才會問說那依據這個第二項所提到的我們會有什麼樣的措施可以提出 |
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那除了你們剛剛講的那有沒有相關的法律我們的法律依據是什麼有 我們有進口救濟措施在經濟部還有財政部都有貿易法貿易法相關都有相關的條文 |
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就回歸我國國內的法律所以我今天不是來考大記憶力我只是把我的疑問提出來請你們回覆所以當然你們誰要出來解釋我都非常樂意主外一方代表指的是the other party就是指的對方主外的時候我方就沒有啦我了解啦我說一方是指兩邊都可以嘛所以美方一直在新聞上面提供他們301等等那我也要知道我方有什麼 |
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這個必須要告訴全國人民我們到底還有什麼東西因為我看到就是天下雜誌他有整理到就是說美國貿易代表他有講了說還甚至可以提到15%然後他可以那個有足夠的時間讓政府去整齊提動301條款那我也要知道我們有什麼東西可以因應那像這樣子的啟動大概都需要花多少時間有沒有什麼SOP我說我國 |
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依照我們的貿易法的相關的規定如果要採取進口救濟的話業者可以提出來政府也可以自行但是要經過一定的時間的調查調查時間大概多久這個我一下忘記應該至少一定要6個月以上好那這個東西請麻煩都讓全國人民知道再來我想請教一下我看到你們的報告你們的報告提到 |
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你們有找過民間智庫做初步的估算就是你們認為說這個衝擊性可能沒有那麼的那麼大他的衝擊有限請問一下這個民間智庫是指什麼哪一間智庫這是經濟部這個相關不是經濟部啦你們找的智庫 |
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我們可以下載嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
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就是因為你們現在只有在你們的報告第13頁有提到一個民間智庫那我想請問一下這個智庫的報告細項我要去哪裡看得到 還有一些評估行政院召開正式記者會都有請經濟部提供PowerPoint所以會後我們可以不是PowerPoint 我只要詳細的智庫的報告詳細的評估經濟部可以再進一步提供給委員因為我們如果要提供完整的這些評估報告比較細項那個部分是不是等到文本一併的 |
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好 那不能這樣好了啦至少讓我知道你們會給我那你們剛剛是告訴了我民間智庫是哪幾個嘛然後再來我是希望我希望完整的看一下內容是什麼因為這個東西其實是很重要的啦因為我必須知道到底民間智庫是幾家你們有沒有做交叉的驗證這個我必須知道 |
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716.927 |
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再來他的評估的狀況怎麼樣對我國影響多大因為我跟各位報告雖然你們就是以政府的角度是這樣看但是民間每個人都挫在蛋啦我想各位一定能夠感同身受他們都很害怕所以他們都會一直跟我們溝通所以我希望知道這些內容好不好就麻煩你要把資料提供給我這個大概多久可以提供給我 |
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只要那個確定了我們文本要送上去的時候我們就會把這些比較詳細的怎麼樣估算的內容好那我稍微等一下如果我一直等覺得沒有到我會發文跟你們詢問好不好報告員我們要讓他確定之後最終的影響評估我們給他公布出來否則這個過程像過去32、20、15我們都有如果都很詳細全部公布我想在引用上也會造成一些不必要的 |
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混淆 所以我們最終的時候會把定案時候的影響評估公布出來也經過這個民間的智庫來公布出來他們用什麼樣的模型 用什麼樣的角色裡面都會完整的揭露 沒有問題因為我是看到你們的報告寫 因為是太簡單了啦 |
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因為你們就只有寫說你們的智庫怎麼樣所以說你們現在可以看一下那個PowerPoint上面我有這幾個問題就是我希望說智庫的名稱還有希望能夠把它公開我另外也希望知道一個點就是說當時他們在做這些評估的時候他有沒有邀請公總還有一些協會去做一些了解這個我也必須要知道一下另外就是 |
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這個你們所謂的適當情況的這個定義這個我也想要反正你們就看一下這上面這幾個點我都希望能夠知道這個也是國人非常希望知道的那還有就是我剛提到三種情況就是10%或者是上調到15%或者是 |
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在動用了301這個最不幸的狀況發生之後前面兩項有沒有做出一些評估前面兩項已經做了因為301的部分怎麼樣還沒有就是美方還沒有怎麼樣還沒有說明他的調查方式調查方式調查項目那10%加MFN的衝擊分析以及15%加MFN的衝擊分析已經做了已經用記者會先用 |
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這個整體說明那接下來我們當然會密切關注他啟動301或其他法律途徑我們都會來積極因應所以我們對跟委員報我們講說我們有信心在後續變動中確保爭取原來鞏固談判成果那這樣至少前面兩個啦你們說10跟15的部分你們這個已經完畢了嘛那這有沒有辦法兩個禮拜內先給我這個已經可以確定的部分 |
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我再跟那個智庫了解一下就是說可以揭露到什麼地步因為這個是也是有智慧財產權不過我還是要覺得不是啊 這個是公家委託委託這個智庫去做的嘛這個提供給國會這個應該不是什麼智慧財產權的問題啊是 但是就是說我看看可以揭露到什麼地步我們盡可能可以公布的部分全部公布 |
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不然你還是盡快給我啦好不好盡快反正你們如果一直沒有給我可能就只好請我去跟你們要那當然你說那個後續的部分因為美方那邊動作還沒有完成那你說不知道那我當然可以接受 |
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但是可以的部分我還是要先去弄清楚到底這些智庫講了什麼那最後其實我還要再跟你們提一個點其實像我國也是有很多相關的國內的法律啦那譬如說我們關稅法70條它其實也有一些規範我們可以去因應就我剛講的那個7.4的第二項裡面我國到底有什麼樣的法律依據可以用其實像剛剛你們講的很清楚 |
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那另外呢 我覺得我們的關稅法也有提到所以相關的因應總是我們要讓人民知道這是一個對等這是一個對等的協定不是說美方說了算所以麻煩一下這幾個東西都能夠把我放到你們的評估報告裡面然後盡快能夠給我 好不好好 謝謝謝謝吳宗憲委員 指定謝謝卓院長 鄭副院長 國務部長備詢 謝謝 |
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接下来我们咨询的委员外汇文咨询完 |
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吳委員宗憲 |
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2026-03-03T15:19:31.811000+08:00 |
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謝謝院長。 |
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吳委員宗憲 |
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2026-03-03T15:19:43.727000+08:00 |
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2026-03-03T15:19:44.468000+08:00 |
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我們麻煩院長。 |
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1 |
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主席 |
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麻煩再請卓院長備詢。 |
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卓院長榮泰 |
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1 |
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吳委員好。 |
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吳委員宗憲 |
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院長好。 |
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吳委員宗憲 |
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2026-03-03T15:19:59.919000+08:00 |
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2026-03-03T15:20:05.740000+08:00 |
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院長，質詢開始之前，我還是先代表宜蘭的鄉親對院長表達肯定還有感謝。 |
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吳委員宗憲 |
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2026-03-03T15:20:05.740000+08:00 |
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過年那個時候，院長特別拍板定案宜蘭到羅東鐵路高架化的計畫，我們希望今年是馬年，接下來可以快馬加鞭，能夠趕快讓這個計畫促成，否則大家對於縣內當地的交通還是有蠻多的抱怨。 |
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0.883 |
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吳委員宗憲 |
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2026-03-03T15:20:26.485000+08:00 |
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另外，也表達對於行政團隊的感謝，因為過去一年我其實一直積極在推動幾個東西，行政團隊也給我蠻多的幫助，就像國道五號冬山交流道，還有南方澳漁港漁船上架場的設置，行政團隊其實都有給予蠻多協助，這個部分先謝謝院長。 |
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吳委員宗憲 |
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2026-03-03T15:20:47.315000+08:00 |
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再來，對於這次經貿談判團隊，在美國的壓力下還能夠盡力為臺灣爭取一些空間，對於他們的辛勞我們當然也是要給予肯定，這部分先跟院長報告。謝謝。 |
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吳委員宗憲 |
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2026-03-03T15:21:03.085000+08:00 |
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2026-03-03T15:21:06.687000+08:00 |
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院長，今天我們來談ART的事情。 |
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0.857 |
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吳委員宗憲 |
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2026-03-03T15:21:07.648000+08:00 |
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依據我國的條約締結法台美對等貿易協定（ART）本來就是要送到立法院審查嘛……是。 |
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吳委員宗憲 |
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2026-03-03T15:21:16.113000+08:00 |
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2026-03-03T15:21:20.496000+08:00 |
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所以今天我們才會一起在這個地方，這個當然也是國會實質審查的一環。 |
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吳委員宗憲 |
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2026-03-03T15:21:22.044000+08:00 |
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這次比較意外的就是美國的司法對於IEEPA裁定違憲，而美方現在又改用1974年貿易法案第一百二十二條有關臨時關稅的徵收，甚至現在還有說法是可能會上調到15%。 |
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0.814 |
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吳委員宗憲 |
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2026-03-03T15:21:42.661000+08:00 |
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以一個立法委員的立場，我們當然是要替全國人民把關。 |
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0.913 |
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吳委員宗憲 |
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2026-03-03T15:21:48.112000+08:00 |
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院長，在2月21號你們的官網有寫到，臨時性關稅10%這個部分，你們認為衝擊影響有限，而且都會持續的關注，當然你們也再提到，將來我們可能還會面臨301條款或是232條款這些問題，所以等於是外部的風險，以及非常多的不確定性，都還在持續的上升。 |
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吳委員宗憲 |
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2026-03-03T15:22:15.858000+08:00 |
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2026-03-03T15:22:30.063000+08:00 |
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而美國的法源也在翻轉中，你也一直呼籲國人要相信美方，相信這個協議會被尊重，但在我的立場，我當然會擔心搞到最後，對等會不會變成是美國說了算？ |
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0.921 |
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吳委員宗憲 |
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2026-03-03T15:22:30.583000+08:00 |
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美國說的就叫做對等，這是我的擔心，這是我對於未來的擔心。 |
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0.96 |
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吳委員宗憲 |
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2026-03-03T15:22:35.828000+08:00 |
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2026-03-03T15:22:46.081000+08:00 |
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再來，您的報告寫得很清楚，美方還在研議中，研議完會通知我們，那不就代表目前還沒有一個具體的做法？ |
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吳委員宗憲 |
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2026-03-03T15:22:46.621000+08:00 |
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2026-03-03T15:22:55.470000+08:00 |
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他們的具體做法，我們還不知道，因此現在如果要我們相信或叫國會背書，我也會擔心這個是對等嗎？ |
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0.951 |
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吳委員宗憲 |
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2026-03-03T15:22:55.470000+08:00 |
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2026-03-03T15:22:56.591000+08:00 |
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這個會不會是更高的一個風險？ |
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1 |
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吳委員宗憲 |
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2026-03-03T15:22:56.591000+08:00 |
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2026-03-03T15:23:09.898000+08:00 |
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所以如果我們今天一直講要相信美方，我們要積極爭取……這個部分我提供您建議，希望您能夠就兩個部分再用力，再給我們一些答復。 |
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0.907 |
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吳委員宗憲 |
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2026-03-03T15:23:10.999000+08:00 |
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2026-03-03T15:23:32.231000+08:00 |
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第一個，在目前ART的基礎上面，有沒有把10%這個部分，還有將來臨時關稅有可能上調15%，或者是有可能轉向301，將這些對中長期風險情境的評估，把它一起納入產業衝擊報告的評估裡面？ |
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0.882 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
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2026-03-03T15:23:32.971000+08:00 |
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2026-03-03T15:23:41.055000+08:00 |
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因為我看到你們有提到有智庫，我想這個部分、這幾個情境的風險，還是要讓國人知道，好不好？ |
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0.947 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
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2026-03-03T15:23:41.395000+08:00 |
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2026-03-03T15:23:43.296000+08:00 |
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這個部分要請您做到。 |
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0.889 |
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吳委員宗憲 |
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2026-03-03T15:23:45.336000+08:00 |
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2026-03-03T15:23:54.943000+08:00 |
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第二個，這個對等的意思，如果將來美方違反這個協定的話，我們的底牌在哪裡？ |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
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2026-03-03T15:23:54.943000+08:00 |
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2026-03-03T15:23:57.064000+08:00 |
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我們有什麼武器可以因應？ |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
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2026-03-03T15:23:57.064000+08:00 |
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2026-03-03T15:23:59.386000+08:00 |
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我們的反制工具是什麼？ |
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1 |
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吳委員宗憲 |
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2026-03-03T15:24:00.427000+08:00 |
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2026-03-03T15:24:03.249000+08:00 |
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而這個反制工具多久內可以啟動？ |
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0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
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2026-03-03T15:24:03.249000+08:00 |
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2026-03-03T15:24:14.442000+08:00 |
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這個部分也是我所希望知道的，我要來確認一下我們這個ART，到底有沒有如同它名詞一樣是「對等」，我是比較在意這個部分。 |
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0.942 |
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吳委員宗憲 |
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2026-03-03T15:24:15.202000+08:00 |
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2026-03-03T15:24:36.031000+08:00 |
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因為我看了一下經濟日報的社論也有提到，他說臺灣對ART其實存在一些誤判的問題，而且這是很多產業界擔心的，因為他們總是擔心一下拉高這個，一下提高那個，會不會將來他的利潤會被吃乾抹淨，這個是大家所擔心的。 |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
0.935 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
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2026-03-03T15:24:36.231000+08:00 |
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2026-03-03T15:24:37.991000+08:00 |
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沒關係，我等一下會把一些問題提出來。 |
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1 |
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吳委員宗憲 |
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2026-03-03T15:24:39.861000+08:00 |
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2026-03-03T15:25:12.537000+08:00 |
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再來，我們這次協定第7.4條的第二項，你看一下這張PowerPoint上面其實有提到，這次協定的內容不應限制或以其他方式阻礙一方代表領域當局為糾正不公平貿易行為、應對進口激增……等等這些類似原因，你們看投影片的文字好了，我就不再唸出來。 |
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0.888 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
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2026-03-03T15:25:13.318000+08:00 |
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2026-03-03T15:25:25.050000+08:00 |
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這個問題是在於因為第二項寫得很清楚，不應阻礙或限制一方代表，這個「一方」就代表不是只有美方，我方也可以嘛，對不對？ |
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0.98 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
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2026-03-03T15:25:25.050000+08:00 |
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2026-03-03T15:25:26.631000+08:00 |
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我想這個很清楚，對不對？ |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
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2026-03-03T15:25:26.631000+08:00 |
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2026-03-03T15:25:28.892000+08:00 |
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院長是這樣嘛，第二項…… |
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0.556 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
鄭副院長麗君 |
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2026-03-03T15:25:28.892000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-03-03T15:25:29.892000+08:00 |
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報告委員…… |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
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2026-03-03T15:25:28.892000+08:00 |
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2026-03-03T15:25:33.114000+08:00 |
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這個讓副院長來說明，因為談判的每一個條文，每一條、每一點都是字字斟酌。 |
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0.871 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
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2026-03-03T15:25:34.915000+08:00 |
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2026-03-03T15:25:35.895000+08:00 |
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好，來，我今天很善意的跟你們就教。 |
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0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
鄭副院長麗君 |
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2026-03-03T15:25:36.096000+08:00 |
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2026-03-03T15:26:02.817000+08:00 |
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我非常簡要地跟委員回應，第七節主要都是協定後續履行相關的法律安排，通常這一條比較是一般性國內法律權利的保留條款，它其實指的就是說美方保有他的政策條款，當然我方也是保有我方法律跟法規的條款，所以這是一個比較一般性的政策條款。 |
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0.914 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
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2026-03-03T15:26:03.358000+08:00 |
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2026-03-03T15:26:05.799000+08:00 |
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是，謝謝副院長，我聽得很清楚。 |
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0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
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2026-03-03T15:26:06.220000+08:00 |
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2026-03-03T15:26:08.721000+08:00 |
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好，那美方有，請問我國呢？ |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
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2026-03-03T15:26:09.622000+08:00 |
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2026-03-03T15:26:19.169000+08:00 |
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因為它是叫做一方，不叫美方嘛，依據這個條文的規定是一方，一方也包括我國也是其中的一方。 |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.974 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
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2026-03-03T15:26:19.969000+08:00 |
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2026-03-03T15:26:26.754000+08:00 |
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請問一下我國在面對這樣的客觀狀況的時候，我們能夠採用什麼樣的措施？ |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
鄭副院長麗君 |
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2026-03-03T15:26:28.395000+08:00 |
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2026-03-03T15:26:31.938000+08:00 |
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一方當然就是指從每一方來看。對！ |
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0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-03-03T15:26:31.938000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
1 |
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2026-03-03T15:26:33.779000+08:00 |
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我不是這個問題。 |
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0 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
鄭副院長麗君 |
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2026-03-03T15:26:33.779000+08:00 |
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2026-03-03T15:26:39.624000+08:00 |
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所以這個沒有問題，這個在一般的法律條文裡面，基本上就是雙方保有國內的法律條文…… |
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0.972 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-03-03T15:26:39.704000+08:00 |
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2026-03-03T15:26:47.329000+08:00 |
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你沒有回答到我的問題，我的意思是說，因為它是寫一方，那代表美方跟中華民國，請問一下…… |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0.973 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
主席 |
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2026-03-03T15:26:47.329000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
1 |
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2026-03-03T15:26:48.410000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
時間暫停一下，楊政委，請。 |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
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2026-03-03T15:26:48.410000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-03-03T15:26:52.413000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
我們有什麼樣的權力可以使用？ |
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0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2026-03-03T15:26:53.134000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2026-03-03T15:26:54.475000+08:00 |
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有什麼樣的法律依據可以使用？ |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
鄭副院長麗君 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2026-03-03T15:26:54.943000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2026-03-03T15:26:57.908000+08:00 |
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就是包含任何的法律…… |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
主席 |
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2026-03-03T15:26:58.549000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2026-03-03T15:27:05.439000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
時間暫停一下，楊政委可以備詢，沒有問題，您請上台，吳委員有一個法條問題，政委非常熟，時間繼續。 |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
0.725 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
鄭副院長麗君 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2026-03-03T15:27:05.439000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2026-03-03T15:27:06.439000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
一方指的是the other party…… |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
楊總談判代表珍妮 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2026-03-03T15:27:05.439000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2026-03-03T15:27:06.401000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
謝謝委員，一方指的是雙方的…… |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2026-03-03T15:27:11.988000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2026-03-03T15:27:20.634000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
不是，這個不是我的問題嘛，我一直說一方是代表美方跟中華民國，我是說我方可以採取什麼樣的動作？ |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
楊總談判代表珍妮 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2026-03-03T15:27:20.954000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2026-03-03T15:27:36.004000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
我方，就是說當我們認為美國產品有進口激增的時候，我們可以採取WTO項下的救濟措施，例如進口限制、Safeguard、Anti-Dumping或是Subsidy，它講的是這種措施。 |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
0.951 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
鄭副院長麗君 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2026-03-03T15:27:36.664000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2026-03-03T15:27:42.646000+08:00 |
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就是我方仍然保有我國國內法律，保護我國受公平貿易相關法律的效力。 |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2026-03-03T15:27:42.786000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2026-03-03T15:27:47.408000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
對，所以我今天就是在問這個問題，我方到底有什麼樣的反制措施？ |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
0.963 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2026-03-03T15:27:48.308000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2026-03-03T15:28:03.013000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
因為美方的話，我們現在動不動就聽到美方說有301、232等等的，很多武器要來對付其他國家，我才會問依據第二項所提到的，我們會有什麼樣的措施可以提出？ |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2026-03-03T15:28:03.873000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2026-03-03T15:28:07.455000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
請問你們剛剛講的，我們的法源依據是什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
楊總談判代表珍妮 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2026-03-03T15:28:07.455000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2026-03-03T15:28:13.457000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
有，我們有進口救濟措施，在經濟部還有財政部都有。 |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
鄭副院長麗君 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2026-03-03T15:28:14.498000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2026-03-03T15:28:16.759000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
貿易法都有相關的條文。 |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2026-03-03T15:28:16.759000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2026-03-03T15:28:19.574000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
好，這個部分，其實我不是…… |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
鄭副院長麗君 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2026-03-03T15:28:19.574000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2026-03-03T15:28:20.855000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
回歸我國國內的法律。 |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2026-03-03T15:28:22.055000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2026-03-03T15:28:24.735000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].text |
OK，所以我今天不是來考大家的記憶力，不是問倒大家。了解。 |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
0.52 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2026-03-03T15:28:25.476000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2026-03-03T15:28:27.416000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].text |
我只是把我的疑問提出來，請你們回復。是的。 |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2026-03-03T15:28:28.076000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2026-03-03T15:28:30.537000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].text |
所以當然你們誰要出來解釋，我都非常的樂意、非常歡迎。 |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
0.783 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
鄭副院長麗君 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2026-03-03T15:28:31.797000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[67].end |
2026-03-03T15:28:36.458000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].text |
「阻礙一方代表」指的是the other party，就是指著對方阻礙的時候，我方就有我方的法律…… |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
0.738 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
| transcript.gazette[68].start |
2026-03-03T15:28:36.778000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[68].end |
2026-03-03T15:28:39.819000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].text |
沒有，我了解啦，我說一方是指兩邊都可以嘛！對、對。 |
| transcript.gazette[68].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[69].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
| transcript.gazette[69].start |
2026-03-03T15:28:40.599000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[69].end |
2026-03-03T15:29:07.252000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].text |
美方一直在新聞上面提供301等等，那我也要知道我方有什麼，我想這個必須要告訴全國人民，我們到底還有什麼東西，因為我看到天下雜誌有整理到美國貿易代表有講了，甚至可以提到15%，可以有足夠的時間讓政府去爭取啟動301條款，我也要知道我們有什麼東西可以因應。 |
| transcript.gazette[69].quality |
0.955 |
| transcript.gazette[70].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
| transcript.gazette[70].start |
2026-03-03T15:29:07.252000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[70].end |
2026-03-03T15:29:11.655000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].text |
那像這樣子的啟動大概都需要花多少時間，有沒有什麼SOP？ |
| transcript.gazette[70].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[71].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
| transcript.gazette[71].start |
2026-03-03T15:29:12.875000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[71].end |
2026-03-03T15:29:12.955000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].text |
我說我國。 |
| transcript.gazette[71].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[72].speaker |
楊總談判代表珍妮 |
| transcript.gazette[72].start |
2026-03-03T15:29:15.126000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[72].end |
2026-03-03T15:29:25.295000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].text |
依照我們貿易法相關的規定，如果要採取進口救濟的話，業者可以提出來，政府也可以自行，但是要經過一定時間的調查，調查期間至少…… |
| transcript.gazette[72].quality |
0.927 |
| transcript.gazette[73].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
| transcript.gazette[73].start |
2026-03-03T15:29:26.576000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[73].end |
2026-03-03T15:29:27.436000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].text |
調查時間大概要多久？ |
| transcript.gazette[73].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[74].speaker |
楊總談判代表珍妮 |
| transcript.gazette[74].start |
2026-03-03T15:29:28.838000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[74].end |
2026-03-03T15:29:31.580000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].text |
我一下子忘記，應該至少一定要六個月以上。 |
| transcript.gazette[74].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[75].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
| transcript.gazette[75].start |
2026-03-03T15:29:32.981000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[75].end |
2026-03-03T15:29:35.803000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].text |
好，這個東西請麻煩都讓全國人民知道。 |
| transcript.gazette[75].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[76].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
| transcript.gazette[76].start |
2026-03-03T15:29:36.304000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[76].end |
2026-03-03T15:29:53.197000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].text |
再來，我想請教一下，我看到你們的報告提到，你們有找過民間智庫做初步的估算，你們認為這個衝擊性可能沒有那麼大，它的衝擊有限，請問一下這個民間智庫是指什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[76].quality |
0.986 |
| transcript.gazette[77].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
| transcript.gazette[77].start |
2026-03-03T15:29:53.197000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[77].end |
2026-03-03T15:29:53.617000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].text |
哪一間智庫？ |
| transcript.gazette[77].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[78].speaker |
鄭副院長麗君 |
| transcript.gazette[78].start |
2026-03-03T15:29:53.617000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[78].end |
2026-03-03T15:29:56.238000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].text |
這是經濟部相關…… |
| transcript.gazette[78].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[79].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[79].start |
2026-03-03T15:29:56.238000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[79].end |
2026-03-03T15:29:57.238000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].text |
中經院。 |
| transcript.gazette[79].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[80].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
| transcript.gazette[80].start |
2026-03-03T15:29:56.238000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[80].end |
2026-03-03T15:29:59.159000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].text |
不是經濟部啦，你們找的智庫。 |
| transcript.gazette[80].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[81].speaker |
鄭副院長麗君 |
| transcript.gazette[81].start |
2026-03-03T15:29:59.159000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[81].end |
2026-03-03T15:30:00.159000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].text |
中經院跟台經院等。 |
| transcript.gazette[81].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[82].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[82].start |
2026-03-03T15:30:00.159000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[82].end |
2026-03-03T15:30:01.159000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].text |
中經院。 |
| transcript.gazette[82].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[83].speaker |
鄭副院長麗君 |
| transcript.gazette[83].start |
2026-03-03T15:30:01.159000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[83].end |
2026-03-03T15:30:02.159000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].text |
中經院、台經院綜合幾家智庫的結果。 |
| transcript.gazette[83].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[84].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[84].start |
2026-03-03T15:30:02.159000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[84].end |
2026-03-03T15:30:03.159000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].text |
楊政委請回。 |
| transcript.gazette[84].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[85].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[85].start |
2026-03-03T15:30:03.159000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[85].end |
2026-03-03T15:30:04.159000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].text |
中經院跟台經院。 |
| transcript.gazette[85].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[86].speaker |
鄭副院長麗君 |
| transcript.gazette[86].start |
2026-03-03T15:30:04.159000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[86].end |
2026-03-03T15:30:05.159000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].text |
綜合幾家智庫的結果。 |
| transcript.gazette[86].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[87].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
| transcript.gazette[87].start |
2026-03-03T15:30:04.889000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[87].end |
2026-03-03T15:30:05.029000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].text |
我們可以下載嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[87].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[88].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
| transcript.gazette[88].start |
2026-03-03T15:30:13.938000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[88].end |
2026-03-03T15:30:23.182000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].text |
因為現在只有在你們報告第13頁有提到一個民間智庫，我想請問一下這個智庫的報告細項，我要去哪裡看得到？ |
| transcript.gazette[88].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[89].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
| transcript.gazette[89].start |
2026-03-03T15:30:23.402000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[89].end |
2026-03-03T15:30:24.102000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].text |
還有一些評估…… |
| transcript.gazette[89].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[90].speaker |
鄭副院長麗君 |
| transcript.gazette[90].start |
2026-03-03T15:30:24.962000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[90].end |
2026-03-03T15:30:29.124000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[90].text |
行政院召開正式記者會都有請經濟部提供PowerPoint，所以會後我們可以請部長…… |
| transcript.gazette[90].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[91].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
| transcript.gazette[91].start |
2026-03-03T15:30:29.184000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[91].end |
2026-03-03T15:30:32.045000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[91].text |
不是PowerPoint，我是要詳細的智庫報告。 |
| transcript.gazette[91].quality |
0.955 |
| transcript.gazette[92].speaker |
鄭副院長麗君 |
| transcript.gazette[92].start |
2026-03-03T15:30:32.185000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[92].end |
2026-03-03T15:30:34.366000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[92].text |
詳細的評估經濟部可以再進一步提供給委員。好。 |
| transcript.gazette[92].quality |
0.95 |
| transcript.gazette[93].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[93].start |
2026-03-03T15:30:34.606000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[93].end |
2026-03-03T15:30:41.989000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[93].text |
我們如果要提供完整的評估報告，比較細項的部分，是不是等到文本一併來送？ |
| transcript.gazette[93].quality |
0.906 |
| transcript.gazette[94].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
| transcript.gazette[94].start |
2026-03-03T15:30:44.150000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[94].end |
2026-03-03T15:30:47.092000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[94].text |
好，那不然這樣好了，至少讓我知道你們會給我。對。 |
| transcript.gazette[94].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[95].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
| transcript.gazette[95].start |
2026-03-03T15:30:47.973000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[95].end |
2026-03-03T15:30:50.895000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[95].text |
你們剛剛有告訴我民間智庫是哪幾個嘛……對、對。 |
| transcript.gazette[95].quality |
0.842 |
| transcript.gazette[96].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
| transcript.gazette[96].start |
2026-03-03T15:30:51.716000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[96].end |
2026-03-03T15:30:55.919000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[96].text |
再來，我希望看一下完整內容是什麼…… |
| transcript.gazette[96].quality |
0.867 |
| transcript.gazette[97].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[97].start |
2026-03-03T15:30:55.919000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[97].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[97].end |
2026-03-03T15:30:56.919000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[97].text |
可以、可以。 |
| transcript.gazette[97].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[98].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
| transcript.gazette[98].start |
2026-03-03T15:30:55.919000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[98].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[98].end |
2026-03-03T15:31:04.286000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[98].text |
因為這個東西其實是很重要的，我必須知道到底民間智庫是幾家、你們有沒有做交叉驗證……有、有。 |
| transcript.gazette[98].quality |
0.949 |
| transcript.gazette[99].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
| transcript.gazette[99].start |
2026-03-03T15:31:04.286000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[99].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[99].end |
2026-03-03T15:31:08.630000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[99].text |
這個我必須知道，再來是它評估的狀況怎麼樣、對我國影響多大。 |
| transcript.gazette[99].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[100].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
| transcript.gazette[100].start |
2026-03-03T15:31:08.770000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[100].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[100].end |
2026-03-03T15:31:14.736000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[100].text |
因為我跟各位報告，雖然你們以政府的角度是這樣看，但是民間每個人都很害怕啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[100].quality |
0.912 |
| transcript.gazette[101].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
| transcript.gazette[101].start |
2026-03-03T15:31:15.216000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[101].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[101].end |
2026-03-03T15:31:23.544000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[101].text |
我想各位一定能夠感同身受，他們都很害怕，他們都會一直跟我們溝通，所以我希望知道這些內容，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[101].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[102].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
| transcript.gazette[102].start |
2026-03-03T15:31:23.644000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[102].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[102].end |
2026-03-03T15:31:26.907000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[102].text |
就麻煩你把資料提供給我，這個大概多久可以提供給我？ |
| transcript.gazette[102].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[103].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[103].start |
2026-03-03T15:31:27.787000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[103].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[103].end |
2026-03-03T15:31:35.051000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[103].text |
只要確定文本要送上去的時候，我們就會把這些比較詳細的怎麼樣估算的內容一併附上。 |
| transcript.gazette[103].quality |
0.892 |
| transcript.gazette[104].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
| transcript.gazette[104].start |
2026-03-03T15:31:35.992000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[104].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[104].end |
2026-03-03T15:31:41.475000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[104].text |
好，那我稍微等一下，如果一直等，但沒有到，我會發文跟你們詢問，好不好？好。 |
| transcript.gazette[104].quality |
0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[105].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[105].start |
2026-03-03T15:31:41.635000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[105].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[105].end |
2026-03-03T15:31:47.678000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[105].text |
報告委員，我們要讓它確定之後，最終的影響評估我們會公布出來，否則這過程……像過去的32%、20%、15%、10%…… |
| transcript.gazette[105].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[106].speaker |
鄭副院長麗君 |
| transcript.gazette[106].start |
2026-03-03T15:31:47.678000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[106].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[106].end |
2026-03-03T15:31:50.399000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[106].text |
都有公布過。 |
| transcript.gazette[106].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[107].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[107].start |
2026-03-03T15:31:50.399000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[107].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[107].end |
2026-03-03T15:32:03.309000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[107].text |
我們都有，如果都很詳細全部公布，我想在引用上也會造成一些不必要的混淆，所以我們最終會把定案後的影響評估公布出來，也經過民間智庫再公布出來。 |
| transcript.gazette[107].quality |
0.969 |
| transcript.gazette[108].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[108].start |
2026-03-03T15:32:03.309000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[108].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[108].end |
2026-03-03T15:32:05.611000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[108].text |
他們用什麼樣的模型、用什麼樣的角色…… |
| transcript.gazette[108].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[109].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[109].start |
2026-03-03T15:32:05.611000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[109].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[109].end |
2026-03-03T15:32:06.611000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[109].text |
都會向外界說明。 |
| transcript.gazette[109].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[110].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[110].start |
2026-03-03T15:32:06.292000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[110].end |
2026-03-03T15:32:08.253000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[110].text |
裡面都會完整揭露，沒有問題。 |
| transcript.gazette[110].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[111].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
| transcript.gazette[111].start |
2026-03-03T15:32:08.253000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[111].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[111].end |
2026-03-03T15:32:26.791000+08:00 |
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好，因為我是看到你們的報告寫得太簡單，你們就只有寫說你們的智庫怎麼樣……你們現在可以看一下PowerPoint上面，我有這幾個問題，我希望知道智庫的名稱，還有希望能夠把內容公開。 |
| transcript.gazette[111].quality |
0.926 |
| transcript.gazette[112].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
| transcript.gazette[112].start |
2026-03-03T15:32:26.791000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[112].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[112].end |
2026-03-03T15:32:34.957000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[112].text |
我另外也希望知道一個點，就是說當時他們在做評估的時候，他有沒有邀請工總。 |
| transcript.gazette[112].quality |
0.97 |
| transcript.gazette[113].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
| transcript.gazette[113].start |
2026-03-03T15:32:34.957000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[113].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[113].end |
2026-03-03T15:32:37.679000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[113].text |
還有一些協會去做一些了解？ |
| transcript.gazette[113].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[114].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
| transcript.gazette[114].start |
2026-03-03T15:32:38.379000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[114].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[114].end |
2026-03-03T15:32:54.290000+08:00 |
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這個我也必須要知道一下；另外，你們所謂「適當情況」的定義，我也想要知道，反正你們就看一下上面這幾個點，我都希望能夠知道，這也是國人非常希望知道的。 |
| transcript.gazette[114].quality |
0.969 |
| transcript.gazette[115].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
| transcript.gazette[115].start |
2026-03-03T15:32:54.970000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[115].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[115].end |
2026-03-03T15:33:08.465000+08:00 |
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還有就是我剛剛提到的三種情狀，就是10%或者是上調到15%，或者是再動用了301這個最不幸的狀況發生之後，行政院有沒有做出一些評估？ |
| transcript.gazette[115].quality |
0.873 |
| transcript.gazette[116].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[116].start |
2026-03-03T15:33:08.745000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[116].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[116].end |
2026-03-03T15:33:13.731000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[116].text |
前面兩項已經做了，因為301的部分怎麼樣，美方還沒有…… |
| transcript.gazette[116].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[117].speaker |
鄭副院長麗君 |
| transcript.gazette[117].start |
2026-03-03T15:33:14.031000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[117].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[117].end |
2026-03-03T15:33:16.153000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[117].text |
還沒有說明它的調查方式。 |
| transcript.gazette[117].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[118].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[118].start |
2026-03-03T15:33:16.153000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[118].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[118].end |
2026-03-03T15:33:17.153000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[118].text |
調查還沒有完成。 |
| transcript.gazette[118].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[119].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[119].start |
2026-03-03T15:33:16.533000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[119].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[119].end |
2026-03-03T15:33:17.935000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[119].text |
對，調查方式、調查項目，那個沒有辦法評估。 |
| transcript.gazette[119].quality |
0.529 |
| transcript.gazette[120].speaker |
鄭副院長麗君 |
| transcript.gazette[120].start |
2026-03-03T15:33:18.075000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[120].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[120].end |
2026-03-03T15:33:33.669000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[120].text |
10%加MFN的衝擊分析以及15%加MFN的衝擊分析已經做了，已經用記者會先整體說明，接下來我們當然會密切關注它啟動301或其他法律途徑，我們都會來積極因應。 |
| transcript.gazette[120].quality |
0.985 |
| transcript.gazette[121].speaker |
鄭副院長麗君 |
| transcript.gazette[121].start |
2026-03-03T15:33:34.870000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[121].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[121].end |
2026-03-03T15:33:40.575000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[121].text |
跟委員報告，我們有信心在後續變動中確保爭取鞏固原來的談判成果。 |
| transcript.gazette[121].quality |
0.862 |
| transcript.gazette[122].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
| transcript.gazette[122].start |
2026-03-03T15:33:41.596000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[122].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[122].end |
2026-03-03T15:33:50.163000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[122].text |
這樣至少前面兩個，也就是10%跟15%的部分，你們說這個已經完畢了嘛，那這有沒有辦法兩個禮拜內先給我這個已經可以確定的部分？ |
| transcript.gazette[122].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[123].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[123].start |
2026-03-03T15:33:51.412000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[123].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[123].end |
2026-03-03T15:33:58.737000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[123].text |
我再跟智庫了解一下可以揭露到什麼地步，因為這個也是有智慧財產權啦，不過…… |
| transcript.gazette[123].quality |
0.97 |
| transcript.gazette[124].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
| transcript.gazette[124].start |
2026-03-03T15:34:00.398000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[124].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[124].end |
2026-03-03T15:34:00.498000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[124].text |
不是啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[124].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[125].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
| transcript.gazette[125].start |
2026-03-03T15:34:00.938000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[125].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[125].end |
2026-03-03T15:34:04.420000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[125].text |
這是公家委託智庫去做的嘛……是、是。 |
| transcript.gazette[125].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[126].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
| transcript.gazette[126].start |
2026-03-03T15:34:04.880000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[126].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[126].end |
2026-03-03T15:34:07.782000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[126].text |
這個提供給國會應該不是什麼智慧財產權的問題啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[126].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[127].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[127].start |
2026-03-03T15:34:08.182000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[127].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[127].end |
2026-03-03T15:34:13.906000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[127].text |
是、是，但是就是說我看看可以揭露到什麼地步，我們盡可能可以公布的部分全部公布。 |
| transcript.gazette[127].quality |
0.971 |
| transcript.gazette[128].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
| transcript.gazette[128].start |
2026-03-03T15:34:16.189000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[128].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[128].end |
2026-03-03T15:34:17.990000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[128].text |
不然你還是儘快給我啦，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[128].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[129].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
| transcript.gazette[129].start |
2026-03-03T15:34:18.190000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[129].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[129].end |
2026-03-03T15:34:21.852000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[129].text |
儘快，你們如果一直沒有給我，我可能就只好行文去跟你們要。 |
| transcript.gazette[129].quality |
0.84 |
| transcript.gazette[130].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
| transcript.gazette[130].start |
2026-03-03T15:34:22.832000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[130].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[130].end |
2026-03-03T15:34:33.833000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[130].text |
當然，你說後續的部分，因為美方那邊動作還沒有完成，你說不知道，我當然可以接受，但是可以的部分，我還是要先弄清楚到底這些智庫講了什麼。 |
| transcript.gazette[130].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[131].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
| transcript.gazette[131].start |
2026-03-03T15:34:33.953000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[131].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[131].end |
2026-03-03T15:34:57.840000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[131].text |
最後我還要再跟你們提一個點，像我國也是有很多相關的國內法律，譬如我們的關稅法第七十條，其實有一些規範讓我們能夠去因應，就我剛剛講的7.4第二項裡面，我國到底有什麼樣的法律依據可以用，其實你們剛剛講得很清楚，另外，我們的關稅法也有提到。 |
| transcript.gazette[131].quality |
0.896 |
| transcript.gazette[132].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
| transcript.gazette[132].start |
2026-03-03T15:34:58.661000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[132].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[132].end |
2026-03-03T15:35:12.809000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[132].text |
相關的因應總是要讓人民知道，這是一個對等的協定，不是美方說了算，所以麻煩一下，這幾個東西都放到你們的評估報告裡面，儘快給我，好不好？謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[132].quality |
0.951 |
| transcript.gazette[133].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[133].start |
2026-03-03T15:35:12.809000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[133].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[133].end |
2026-03-03T15:35:13.809000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[133].text |
好，謝謝委員的肯定，我們會繼續確保已經得到的最優惠待遇。 |
| transcript.gazette[133].quality |
0.12 |
| transcript.gazette[134].speaker |
吳委員宗憲 |
| transcript.gazette[134].start |
2026-03-03T15:35:13.809000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[134].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[134].end |
2026-03-03T15:35:14.809000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[134].text |
好，謝謝院長。 |
| transcript.gazette[134].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[135].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[135].start |
2026-03-03T15:35:13.269000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[135].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[135].end |
2026-03-03T15:35:19.373000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[135].text |
謝謝吳宗憲委員質詢，謝謝卓院長、鄭副院長、龔部長備詢，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[135].quality |
0.88 |
| transcript.gazette[136].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[136].start |
2026-03-03T15:35:19.873000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[136].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[136].end |
2026-03-03T15:35:31.301571+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[136].text |
接下來質詢的賴惠員委員質詢完畢之後，我們將會休息10分鐘，10分鐘之後再請賴士葆委員準備質詢。 |
| transcript.gazette[136].quality |
0.1 |
| transcript.gazette[137].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[137].start |
2026-03-03T15:35:31.601571+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[137].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[137].end |
2026-03-03T15:35:34.458714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[137].text |
現在請賴惠員委員質詢。 |
| transcript.gazette[137].quality |
0 |