| IVOD_ID |
167422 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167422 |
| 日期 |
2026-03-03 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-5-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期第1次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期第1次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-03-03T11:10:03+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-03-03T11:26:20+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:16:17 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/321e35c043cc325b455e1a948d5724f105351cf5c593b4e367addb1cb79b2347dedd539b0ca9d38a5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳冠廷 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:10:03 - 11:26:20 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-03-03T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第5會期第1次會議（事由：一、行政院院長提出施政方針及施政報告並備質詢（2月24日下午）。二、行政院院長提出臺美關稅談判結果及其影響專案報告並備質詢（3月3日）。） |
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那院長我想這幾個禮拜針對關稅的這些發展大家國人應該蠻清晰的那在聯邦最高法定他正式裁定這個國際緊急經濟權利法那他違法以來行政團隊在第一時間就做出說明那給市場恢復了一些信心 |
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但是根據1960年貿易擴張法的232條款國安課稅他所建立的保護不受影響這個部分是正確的吧是正確的那涵蓋76%對美我們主力出口的半導體他的防線依然穩固這也是正確的吧我們的現狀是76%在232條款裡面那我們要確認這個是不會受到影響的在配額內還是0%這也是正確的吧 |
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所以光是這一點我必須要先給談判團隊給予肯定因為這是對我們來講是我們出口的命脈那對台灣的經濟來講也是我們非常重要的一部分所以這個部分談判團隊能夠做到這樣子的做法那甚至有辦法談到這樣子的境界我們是覺得非常滿意的不過我要進一步釐清一個核心的問題 |
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那代表我們在台美對的貿易協定中談定的原則是 super cent且不疊加最惠國的這個待遇的稅率 |
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那根據美國目前依據的122的這個條款這個臨時關稅的措施他的上限是150天那現在對全球實施的是15%在疊加那一視同仁所以楊代表此時此刻台灣出口在美國海關實際被課稅的部分是比照ART的不疊加還是跟其他國家一樣是用122條款的疊加 |
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委員好 事實上美國公布的122目前行政命令還是使10%疊加適用所有的國家產品的進口那這是暫時的川普有說想提高到15%但是還沒有公布這個行政命令所以現在其實是10% |
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然後疊加那如果現在這個10%跟疊加對美國的出口的品項來看大概是多少百分比的差距大概就好 |
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這個10跟15這兩個的差距當然對我們來講可能是因為我們在對等裡面我們有爭取到2072項的豁免的產品項目那現在只保留到剩下1597項這些產品是有一些落差從2000多到1500多項 |
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那我是看經濟部的簡報裡面顯示目前的工業品的平均有效稅率是在19%那跟ART承諾的15%大概有4%的差距那以去年對美出口的總和來去推算的話那每個月承受的額外關稅大概是多少你怎麼覺得這個影響的程度是怎麼樣 |
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從去年來講我們是今年到還沒有公佈ART的時候我們都是15我們都是20加疊加那現在呢因為美國122是10疊加其實比現在 |
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過去這個2月20號之前它的這個稅率是比較低的所以有些蘇美的產品它的MFN稅率是低的話其實受到的跟其他這些各國的國家是一樣的 |
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所以目前我們的起跑點跟其他國家基本上都是一致的但是如果未來ART簽訂之後應該是會有比較好的起跑點可以這麼說嗎因為我們跟有些國家沒有簽美國沒有簽FTA所以我們事務不疊加我們就取得跟日本韓國這些國家跟他有貿易協定的我們是得到了相對的優惠的待遇 |
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那我必須要再強調一下從122到未來因為我們10%現在是10%但是因為川普總統已經說到15%那未來的變化我必須還是要強調美國有很多關稅的工具很多關稅的法律他如果不用這個由這個最高法院裁定的國際緊急經濟權立法 |
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他還是可以用其他的方式包含使用301條款來去調查所以為什麼我們說ART對台灣的重要性是因為在這個框架裡面他保護了台灣的產業特別是我們最關鍵的這個出口產業包含半導體那我也理解到最近剛才聽到幾位在野黨的立法委員們都有提到說在這個ART上面他說這個品項那一個品項來做細節上的探討但是我們討論的是一個戰略上的探討 |
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如果說我們現在沒有辦法來去鞏固ART的話行政權美國的行政權它的工序實在是太多了它可以用其他的方式授權其他的法其他的政治命令來提高對其他國家的關稅所以當我們有ART這個架構它是某種程度是保護我們的一些重要的產業所以我要再請教院長一個比較前瞻性的問題 |
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這USTR已經宣布將加速推動多項301條款調查對外國不公平貿易行為的調查機制它的涵蓋包含過樣的產能包含藥品的定價包含數位服務稅等等這種這個之前楊政委的簡報也有提到說122條款150天屆滿後301條款就像我剛才提到的可能會成為它法律的長期的工具那 |
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概率的請教ART的架構有沒有辦法提供足夠的防護來去避免未來可能的301的這個調查或者是代表都可以我們當初跟美國談判的時候這個對等關稅跟232這個是一起談判的當時是沒有美國還沒有大規模啟動這個301的調查所以我們在對MOU簽訂的同時當中我們跟美方有一定的默契未來232的部分 |
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會持續依照雙方所談的這個過程給我們最優惠的待遇那當時是沒有談到301但是我認為如果我們繼續爭取維持原來協議的內容的話在這樣的精神他要做擴大232跟301的調查我們也持續以對於我方國家跟產業最大利益來向美國做最優惠待遇的爭取 |
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我特別提到這件事情的時候是因為301調查的時程通常是12到18個月那USTR這次說要加速所以說如果301條款在150天內就啟動那我們的ART如果還在等美方的法源明確化或者在等待我們的國會授權的話那時間上會不會出現空窗 |
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我們當然沒有辦法聽美方說他的事情但我認為他面對全世界那麼多國家已經談妥的部分他是不是有可能有機會來做比較快速的處理我們當然存在這樣的期待 |
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那因為現在國際秩序在不斷的變動當中有些東西不是操之在我們有些東西是操之在我們的包含國會授權包含確保說我們已經得到的這個被保護的ART能夠盡快的去審議通過我認為這就是一個很好的方式那針對投資的部分我還是要請教ART復建三它有承諾了850億的能源跟航空器採購那包含這個儀化天然氣等等 |
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那年度跨從2025年到2029年那還有企業2500億的赴美投資承諾那我認為包含行政院也好我們必須要跟民眾強調的是它這個不是單純的買東西或者是技術轉移我們是要爭取最有利的條件來去強調這是一個互利合作的就是說它不是把錢花出去它是一個長期的投資而這個投資是跟台灣是有互益互利互惠的 |
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我想大家都會覺得說我為什麼要投資這麼多這個數以百億的美金來到美國原因很簡單因為你的投資長期上面是有效益的甚至也不用長期短期就已經有效益了那包含台積電在內很多人說我們會不會把這個利益上面來掏空或者是把基礎上面全方位的來移到美國其實院長你都已經很清楚的跟所有的民眾已經談論過了 |
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我們最先進的製程在台灣另外一點就是說台灣就沒有那麼多的足夠的空間來去容納非最先進製程的這種生產我們當然是要把所有的我們的資源來去遍佈在世界上面這就是我們更大的利基 |
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那我認為這些東西都是必須要跟民眾來去好好討論的不過我還是要強調這850億美元還不是小數目我們不是配合性的支出他是有戰略性的投資所以包含行政院未來把ART去做立法院審議的時候可不可以一併的提供具體的執行承諾跟議價的成果還有未來的這個可能的收益來讓民眾更加的了解第一個產業就 |
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對做全球的佈局投資這長期以來都是如此過去台灣的產業也向中國大陸去做投資去做設產但相對的把我們的傳統產業跟民生工業有一部分帶過去之後造成我們內部的問題但現在因為不再寄望於那種低廉價的勞力我們往其他更大的地方去做投資做全球佈局政府支持但是基於過去的經驗我們也要會 |
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要求在國家安全跟我們經濟的整個環節底下要守住台灣優先台灣立足台灣的這個根本我們才能夠允許到國外去做投資這個政府跟企業之間這個默契是存在的所以未來要做什麼樣的投資除了他自己的自主投資之外要符合到國家的政策我們要滿足到我們耕留台灣這樣的目標好 謝謝院長那我們請農業部長 |
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部長好 委員好部長我們談判團隊在ART中有爭取到261項農產品的豁免那其中72項是台灣保證豁免那27項是台灣專屬的零關稅豁免包含這個蝴蝶蘭、關賞蛙等等喔那這個是非常不容易我要感謝談判團隊那現在有一個現實的問題就是說在122條款之下這些豁免暫時沒有被納入那根據農業部自己發布的數據包含蝴蝶蘭在 |
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ART下次零關稅但是現在變成了15%加上這個MFN它未來是會跟荷蘭是站在同一個起跑點上面所以說我們國家的獨特的優勢暫時消失了那毛豆的ART是15% |
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那現在是18.8那包含鳳梨等72項這個保障的豁免品項它也是暫時失效的狀態我想請問部長從2月24號122條款生效到現在目前有沒有接到一些外銷業者來反映訂單的影響或者是具體的案例這個影響規模大概是什麼樣的程度 |
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我跟委員報告就是因為我們現在所簽署的ART並還沒有真正的生效所以對業者來講他比的是跟去年來比那去年是20%有疊加的方式那現在是10%122條款目前是10%有疊加所以相對於去年其實已經比較好了這第一個重點第二個重點就是說在去年的時候因為 |
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我們在外銷的時候除了絕對關稅以外還有跟競爭對手國的相對關稅的比例那在去年的時候以胡鐵男來講因為荷蘭是只有15%我們是20%所以我們相對於比較弱勢那今年因為都是10%疊加 |
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有比較好的同樣的立足點所以對業者來講他們說現在的過渡期是比去年還好那當然他們還是期待說RD能夠趕快的內容能夠跟美國確認以後能夠維持著那我想我們現在目前也在積極的正在跟他們美國做確認 |
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所以部長就如同剛才談判總代表提到的現在不是15%是10%就是儘管總統宣布15%但還沒有正式的實施對川普總統還沒有正式經過正式的程序所以現在在10%疊加MFN全球一定適用的狀況之下此時此刻我們甚至還有比去年好一點的優勢 |
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好 謝謝部長那我必須要強調在等待ART的這個落實的這段時間就是首先我們國會要通過那在就是我們等待落實的這段時間針對假設有外鄉的品項 |
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國內的配套也會有預先準備因為我們法律工具非常多特別是行政權他們的法律工具非常多那所以這個部分應該有做好包含這個胡蹄蘭的外銷的運費補貼或者是連年申請的補助假設假設有新的這些變局的話我們農業部都已經準備好了 |
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我跟委員報告包括我們的農安基金300億還有我們農業部本來的預算我們不會等到R的真正的生效以後才去處理我們現在因為這一次的一個對美談判其實對農業來講是一個機會所以我們對外會確保我們的外交優勢對內我們更會鞏固我們國產品的一個競爭的一個優勢 |
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好 那我剛剛提到蝴蝶蘭那因為它是在我們選區裡面是非常重要的一個產品在大陵那包含毛豆 毛豆的加工升級的機制還有我們加速拓展日本這些這些都是未來我們聽到有很多我們業者或者是我們鄉親們有希望能夠來去處理的對美國的市場以外我們對於其他的我們主要農產品的外銷市場我們同時會兼顧非常感謝部長那接下來我們要請鞏部長 |
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885.26 |
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902.768 |
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那在拱部長到講台之前我們先簡單的來關心一下我主要是針對中南部的機械食品加工之層的這些聚落在經濟部的壓力預測下我看到機械產業受衝擊的是預估是負1.32那紡織是負1.1 |
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這些大量集中在中南部的這些產業460億的韌性特別預算的方向有沒有來做一些核准的比例有沒有來比較一下中南部業者佔多少比例會不會有北重南輕或者是大企業吃得到中小企業吃不到的狀況因為剛才我們一直在提到的這些我跟委員報告就是說我們一定都是開放的但是我們座談會事實上中南部辦的是最多尤其是南部因為南部算是傳統產業那如果所以 |
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967.415 |
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970.14 |
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謝謝陳委員 謝謝卓院長 |