| IVOD_ID |
167422 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167422 |
| 日期 |
2026-03-03 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-5-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期第1次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期第1次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-03-03T11:10:03+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-03-03T11:26:20+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:16:17 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
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| video_url |
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| 委員名稱 |
陳冠廷 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:10:03 - 11:26:20 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-03-03T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第5會期第1次會議（事由：一、行政院院長提出施政方針及施政報告並備質詢（2月24日下午）。二、行政院院長提出臺美關稅談判結果及其影響專案報告並備質詢（3月3日）。） |
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你好 我們請院長跟楊總談判代表請卓院長還有楊總談判代表 是嗎 沒錯吧陳國勇好院長好 那楊代表好 |
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那院長我想這幾個禮拜針對關稅的這些發展大家國人應該蠻清晰的那在聯邦最高法定他正式裁定這個國際緊急經濟權利法那他違法以來行政團隊在第一時間就做出說明那給市場恢復了一些信心 |
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但是根據1960年貿易擴張法的232條款國安課稅他所建立的保護不受影響這個部分是正確的吧是正確的那涵蓋76%對美我們主力出口的半導體他的防線依然穩固這也是正確的吧我們的現狀是76%在232條款裡面那我們要確認這個是不會受到影響的在配額內還是0%這也是正確的吧 |
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所以光是這一點我必須要先給談判團隊給予肯定因為這是對我們來講是我們出口的命脈那對台灣的經濟來講也是我們非常重要的一部分所以這個部分談判團隊能夠做到這樣子的做法那甚至有辦法談到這樣子的境界我們是覺得非常滿意的不過我要進一步釐清一個核心的問題 |
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那代表我們在台美對的貿易協定中談定的原則是 super cent且不疊加最惠國的這個待遇的稅率 |
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那根據美國目前依據的122的這個條款這個臨時關稅的措施他的上限是150天那現在對全球實施的是15%在疊加那一視同仁所以楊代表此時此刻台灣出口在美國海關實際被課稅的部分是比照ART的不疊加還是跟其他國家一樣是用122條款的疊加 |
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委員好 事實上美國公布的122目前行政命令還是使10%疊加適用所有的國家產品的進口那這是暫時的川普有說想提高到15%但是還沒有公布這個行政命令所以現在其實是10% |
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然後疊加那如果現在這個10%跟疊加對美國的出口的品項來看大概是多少百分比的差距大概就好 |
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這個10跟15這兩個的差距當然對我們來講可能是因為我們在對等裡面我們有爭取到2072項的豁免的產品項目那現在只保留到剩下1597項這些產品是有一些落差從2000多到1500多項 |
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那我是看經濟部的簡報裡面顯示目前的工業品的平均有效稅率是在19%那跟ART承諾的15%大概有4%的差距那以去年對美出口的總和來去推算的話那每個月承受的額外關稅大概是多少你怎麼覺得這個影響的程度是怎麼樣 |
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從去年來講我們是今年到還沒有公佈ART的時候我們都是15我們都是20加疊加那現在呢因為美國122是10疊加其實比現在 |
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過去這個2月20號之前它的這個稅率是比較低的所以有些蘇美的產品它的MFN稅率是低的話其實受到的跟其他這些各國的國家是一樣的 |
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所以目前我們的起跑點跟其他國家基本上都是一致的但是如果未來ART簽訂之後應該是會有比較好的起跑點可以這麼說嗎因為我們跟有些國家沒有簽美國沒有簽FTA所以我們事務不疊加我們就取得跟日本韓國這些國家跟他有貿易協定的我們是得到了相對的優惠的待遇 |
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那我必須要再強調一下從122到未來因為我們10%現在是10%但是因為川普總統已經說到15%那未來的變化我必須還是要強調美國有很多關稅的工具很多關稅的法律他如果不用這個由這個最高法院裁定的國際緊急經濟權立法 |
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他還是可以用其他的方式包含使用301條款來去調查所以為什麼我們說ART對台灣的重要性是因為在這個框架裡面他保護了台灣的產業特別是我們最關鍵的這個出口產業包含半導體那我也理解到最近剛才聽到幾位在野黨的立法委員們都有提到說在這個ART上面他說這個品項那一個品項來做細節上的探討但是我們討論的是一個戰略上的探討 |
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如果說我們現在沒有辦法來去鞏固ART的話行政權美國的行政權它的工序實在是太多了它可以用其他的方式授權其他的法其他的政治命令來提高對其他國家的關稅所以當我們有ART這個架構它是某種程度是保護我們的一些重要的產業所以我要再請教院長一個比較前瞻性的問題 |
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這USTR已經宣布將加速推動多項301條款調查對外國不公平貿易行為的調查機制它的涵蓋包含過樣的產能包含藥品的定價包含數位服務稅等等這種這個之前楊政委的簡報也有提到說122條款150天屆滿後301條款就像我剛才提到的可能會成為它法律的長期的工具那 |
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概率的請教ART的架構有沒有辦法提供足夠的防護來去避免未來可能的301的這個調查或者是代表都可以我們當初跟美國談判的時候這個對等關稅跟232這個是一起談判的當時是沒有美國還沒有大規模啟動這個301的調查所以我們在對MOU簽訂的同時當中我們跟美方有一定的默契未來232的部分 |
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會持續依照雙方所談的這個過程給我們最優惠的待遇那當時是沒有談到301但是我認為如果我們繼續爭取維持原來協議的內容的話在這樣的精神他要做擴大232跟301的調查我們也持續以對於我方國家跟產業最大利益來向美國做最優惠待遇的爭取 |
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我特別提到這件事情的時候是因為301調查的時程通常是12到18個月那USTR這次說要加速所以說如果301條款在150天內就啟動那我們的ART如果還在等美方的法源明確化或者在等待我們的國會授權的話那時間上會不會出現空窗 |
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我們當然沒有辦法聽美方說他的事情但我認為他面對全世界那麼多國家已經談妥的部分他是不是有可能有機會來做比較快速的處理我們當然存在這樣的期待 |
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那因為現在國際秩序在不斷的變動當中有些東西不是操之在我們有些東西是操之在我們的包含國會授權包含確保說我們已經得到的這個被保護的ART能夠盡快的去審議通過我認為這就是一個很好的方式那針對投資的部分我還是要請教ART復建三它有承諾了850億的能源跟航空器採購那包含這個儀化天然氣等等 |
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那年度跨從2025年到2029年那還有企業2500億的赴美投資承諾那我認為包含行政院也好我們必須要跟民眾強調的是它這個不是單純的買東西或者是技術轉移我們是要爭取最有利的條件來去強調這是一個互利合作的就是說它不是把錢花出去它是一個長期的投資而這個投資是跟台灣是有互益互利互惠的 |
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我想大家都會覺得說我為什麼要投資這麼多這個數以百億的美金來到美國原因很簡單因為你的投資長期上面是有效益的甚至也不用長期短期就已經有效益了那包含台積電在內很多人說我們會不會把這個利益上面來掏空或者是把基礎上面全方位的來移到美國其實院長你都已經很清楚的跟所有的民眾已經談論過了 |
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我們最先進的製程在台灣另外一點就是說台灣就沒有那麼多的足夠的空間來去容納非最先進製程的這種生產我們當然是要把所有的我們的資源來去遍佈在世界上面這就是我們更大的利基 |
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那我認為這些東西都是必須要跟民眾來去好好討論的不過我還是要強調這850億美元還不是小數目我們不是配合性的支出他是有戰略性的投資所以包含行政院未來把ART去做立法院審議的時候可不可以一併的提供具體的執行承諾跟議價的成果還有未來的這個可能的收益來讓民眾更加的了解第一個產業就 |
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對做全球的佈局投資這長期以來都是如此過去台灣的產業也向中國大陸去做投資去做設產但相對的把我們的傳統產業跟民生工業有一部分帶過去之後造成我們內部的問題但現在因為不再寄望於那種低廉價的勞力我們往其他更大的地方去做投資做全球佈局政府支持但是基於過去的經驗我們也要會 |
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633.992 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
要求在國家安全跟我們經濟的整個環節底下要守住台灣優先台灣立足台灣的這個根本我們才能夠允許到國外去做投資這個政府跟企業之間這個默契是存在的所以未來要做什麼樣的投資除了他自己的自主投資之外要符合到國家的政策我們要滿足到我們耕留台灣這樣的目標好 謝謝院長那我們請農業部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
647.915 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
675.359 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
部長好 委員好部長我們談判團隊在ART中有爭取到261項農產品的豁免那其中72項是台灣保證豁免那27項是台灣專屬的零關稅豁免包含這個蝴蝶蘭、關賞蛙等等喔那這個是非常不容易我要感謝談判團隊那現在有一個現實的問題就是說在122條款之下這些豁免暫時沒有被納入那根據農業部自己發布的數據包含蝴蝶蘭在 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
675.999 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
690.673 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].text |
ART下次零關稅但是現在變成了15%加上這個MFN它未來是會跟荷蘭是站在同一個起跑點上面所以說我們國家的獨特的優勢暫時消失了那毛豆的ART是15% |
| transcript.whisperx[30].start |
692.475 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
712.026 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
那現在是18.8那包含鳳梨等72項這個保障的豁免品項它也是暫時失效的狀態我想請問部長從2月24號122條款生效到現在目前有沒有接到一些外銷業者來反映訂單的影響或者是具體的案例這個影響規模大概是什麼樣的程度 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].start |
712.726 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
736.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].text |
我跟委員報告就是因為我們現在所簽署的ART並還沒有真正的生效所以對業者來講他比的是跟去年來比那去年是20%有疊加的方式那現在是10%122條款目前是10%有疊加所以相對於去年其實已經比較好了這第一個重點第二個重點就是說在去年的時候因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].start |
737.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
753.608 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].text |
我們在外銷的時候除了絕對關稅以外還有跟競爭對手國的相對關稅的比例那在去年的時候以胡鐵男來講因為荷蘭是只有15%我們是20%所以我們相對於比較弱勢那今年因為都是10%疊加 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].start |
755.329 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].end |
774.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].text |
有比較好的同樣的立足點所以對業者來講他們說現在的過渡期是比去年還好那當然他們還是期待說RD能夠趕快的內容能夠跟美國確認以後能夠維持著那我想我們現在目前也在積極的正在跟他們美國做確認 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].start |
775.953 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
794.524 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].text |
所以部長就如同剛才談判總代表提到的現在不是15%是10%就是儘管總統宣布15%但還沒有正式的實施對川普總統還沒有正式經過正式的程序所以現在在10%疊加MFN全球一定適用的狀況之下此時此刻我們甚至還有比去年好一點的優勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].start |
795.484 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].end |
807.325 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].text |
好 謝謝部長那我必須要強調在等待ART的這個落實的這段時間就是首先我們國會要通過那在就是我們等待落實的這段時間針對假設有外鄉的品項 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].start |
808.682 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].end |
825.516 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].text |
國內的配套也會有預先準備因為我們法律工具非常多特別是行政權他們的法律工具非常多那所以這個部分應該有做好包含這個胡蹄蘭的外銷的運費補貼或者是連年申請的補助假設假設有新的這些變局的話我們農業部都已經準備好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].start |
826.356 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].end |
839.925 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].text |
我跟委員報告包括我們的農安基金300億還有我們農業部本來的預算我們不會等到R的真正的生效以後才去處理我們現在因為這一次的一個對美談判其實對農業來講是一個機會所以我們對外會確保我們的外交優勢對內我們更會鞏固我們國產品的一個競爭的一個優勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].start |
849.192 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].end |
876.017 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].text |
好 那我剛剛提到蝴蝶蘭那因為它是在我們選區裡面是非常重要的一個產品在大陵那包含毛豆 毛豆的加工升級的機制還有我們加速拓展日本這些這些都是未來我們聽到有很多我們業者或者是我們鄉親們有希望能夠來去處理的對美國的市場以外我們對於其他的我們主要農產品的外銷市場我們同時會兼顧非常感謝部長那接下來我們要請鞏部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].start |
885.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].end |
902.768 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].text |
那在拱部長到講台之前我們先簡單的來關心一下我主要是針對中南部的機械食品加工之層的這些聚落在經濟部的壓力預測下我看到機械產業受衝擊的是預估是負1.32那紡織是負1.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].start |
906.589 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].end |
934.789 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].text |
這些大量集中在中南部的這些產業460億的韌性特別預算的方向有沒有來做一些核准的比例有沒有來比較一下中南部業者佔多少比例會不會有北重南輕或者是大企業吃得到中小企業吃不到的狀況因為剛才我們一直在提到的這些我跟委員報告就是說我們一定都是開放的但是我們座談會事實上中南部辦的是最多尤其是南部因為南部算是傳統產業那如果所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].start |
967.415 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].end |
970.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].text |
謝謝陳委員 謝謝卓院長 |
| transcript.gazette[0].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[0].start |
2026-03-03T11:10:11.041000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[0].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[0].end |
2026-03-03T11:10:13.123000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[0].text |
請院長跟楊總談判代表。 |
| transcript.gazette[0].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[1].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[1].start |
2026-03-03T11:10:16.065000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[1].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[1].end |
2026-03-03T11:10:16.545000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[1].text |
卓院長還有楊總談判代表。 |
| transcript.gazette[1].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[2].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[2].start |
2026-03-03T11:10:17.726000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[2].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[2].end |
2026-03-03T11:10:18.447000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[2].text |
陳委員好。 |
| transcript.gazette[2].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[3].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[3].start |
2026-03-03T11:10:18.567000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[3].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[3].end |
2026-03-03T11:10:19.007000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[3].text |
院長好、楊代表好。 |
| transcript.gazette[3].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[4].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[4].start |
2026-03-03T11:10:35.120000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[4].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[4].end |
2026-03-03T11:10:53.038000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[4].text |
院長，我想這幾個禮拜，針對關稅的這些發展，國人也應該蠻清晰的，在聯邦最高法院正式裁定「國際緊急經濟權力法」違法一案，行政團隊在第一時間就有做出說明，給市場恢復了一些信心。 |
| transcript.gazette[4].quality |
0.921 |
| transcript.gazette[5].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[5].start |
2026-03-03T11:10:53.839000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[5].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[5].end |
2026-03-03T11:11:04.887000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[5].text |
但是根據1962年「貿易擴張法」的232條款，國安課稅所建立的保護不受影響，這個部分是正確的吧？ |
| transcript.gazette[5].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[6].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[6].start |
2026-03-03T11:11:06.048000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[6].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[6].end |
2026-03-03T11:11:06.468000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[6].text |
對，是正確的。 |
| transcript.gazette[6].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[7].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[7].start |
2026-03-03T11:11:07.048000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[7].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[7].end |
2026-03-03T11:11:13.893000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[7].text |
涵蓋76%，對美我們主力出口的半導體，它的防線依然穩固，這也是正確的吧？ |
| transcript.gazette[7].quality |
0.967 |
| transcript.gazette[8].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[8].start |
2026-03-03T11:11:14.334000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[8].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[8].end |
2026-03-03T11:11:14.554000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[8].text |
我們的現狀是……沒錯。 |
| transcript.gazette[8].quality |
0.75 |
| transcript.gazette[9].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[9].start |
2026-03-03T11:11:14.714000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[9].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[9].end |
2026-03-03T11:11:15.735000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[9].text |
76%，在232條款裡面，我們要確認這個是不會受到影響的。 |
| transcript.gazette[9].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[10].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[10].start |
2026-03-03T11:11:15.795000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[10].end |
2026-03-03T11:11:17.055000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[10].text |
在配額內還是0%，這個也是正確的吧？是。 |
| transcript.gazette[10].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[11].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[11].start |
2026-03-03T11:11:23.620000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[11].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[11].end |
2026-03-03T11:11:34.007000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[11].text |
所以光是這一點，我必須要先給予談判團隊肯定，因為對我們來講，這是我們出口的命脈，對臺灣的經濟來講，也是我們非常重要的一部分。 |
| transcript.gazette[11].quality |
0.964 |
| transcript.gazette[12].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[12].start |
2026-03-03T11:11:34.447000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[12].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[12].end |
2026-03-03T11:11:43.413000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[12].text |
所以這個部分，談判團隊能夠做到這樣子的作法，甚至有辦法談到這樣子的境界，我們是覺得非常滿意的。 |
| transcript.gazette[12].quality |
0.977 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[13].start |
2026-03-03T11:11:44.013000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[13].end |
2026-03-03T11:11:45.814000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].text |
不過，我要進一步釐清一個核心的問題。 |
| transcript.gazette[13].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[14].start |
2026-03-03T11:11:47.256000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[14].end |
2026-03-03T11:11:55.577000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[14].text |
代表，我們在臺美對等貿易協定中談定的原則是15%且不疊加最惠國待遇的稅率。 |
| transcript.gazette[14].quality |
0.939 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[15].start |
2026-03-03T11:11:57.068000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[15].end |
2026-03-03T11:12:09.416000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].text |
根據美國目前依據的122條款，這個臨時關稅措施的上限是150天，現在對全球實施的是15%再疊加，一視同仁。 |
| transcript.gazette[15].quality |
0.976 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[16].start |
2026-03-03T11:12:09.856000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[16].end |
2026-03-03T11:12:19.202000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].text |
所以楊代表，此時此刻，臺灣出口在美國海關實際被課稅的部分是比照ART的不疊加，還是跟其他國家一樣適用122條款的疊加？ |
| transcript.gazette[16].quality |
0.981 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
楊總談判代表珍妮 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2026-03-03T11:12:20.803000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[17].end |
2026-03-03T11:12:21.184000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].text |
委員好。 |
| transcript.gazette[17].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
楊總談判代表珍妮 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2026-03-03T11:12:21.884000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2026-03-03T11:12:39.859000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].text |
事實上美國公布的122，目前行政命令還是10%疊加，適用所有國家的產品之進口，這是暫時的，川普有說想提高到15%，但是還沒有公布這個行政命令。 |
| transcript.gazette[18].quality |
0.966 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2026-03-03T11:12:39.859000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2026-03-03T11:12:40.859000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[19].text |
還沒有公布。 |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2026-03-03T11:12:40.399000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2026-03-03T11:12:43.382000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].text |
所以現在其實是10%然後…… |
| transcript.gazette[20].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
楊總談判代表珍妮 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2026-03-03T11:12:43.523000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2026-03-03T11:12:43.523000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].text |
10%再疊加。 |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2026-03-03T11:12:43.523000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2026-03-03T11:12:45.326000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].text |
疊加，OK。 |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-03-03T11:12:45.326000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2026-03-03T11:12:52.340000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].text |
現在10%跟疊加，對美國的出口品項來看，大概是多少百分比的差距？ |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2026-03-03T11:12:52.541000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2026-03-03T11:12:52.921000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].text |
大概就好。 |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
楊總談判代表珍妮 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2026-03-03T11:12:56.218000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2026-03-03T11:13:07.830000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].text |
10%跟15%這兩個的差距，當然對我們來講，可能是因為我們在對等裡面有爭取到2,072項豁免的產品項目。沒錯。 |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
0.884 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
楊總談判代表珍妮 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-03-03T11:13:08.711000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
|
| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2026-03-03T11:13:13.236000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].text |
現在只保留到剩下1,597項，這些產品是有一些…… |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
0.944 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2026-03-03T11:13:13.677000+08:00 |
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2026-03-03T11:13:13.857000+08:00 |
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有些落差的。 |
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0.4 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
楊總談判代表珍妮 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-03-03T11:13:13.857000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-03-03T11:13:14.857000+08:00 |
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落差，對。 |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-03-03T11:13:14.117000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2026-03-03T11:13:14.538000+08:00 |
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從兩千多到一千五百多項。對。 |
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0.417 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-03-03T11:13:17.504000+08:00 |
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2026-03-03T11:13:28.534000+08:00 |
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我看經濟部的簡報裡面顯示，目前工業品的平均有效稅率是在19%，跟ART承諾的15%，大概有4%的差距。 |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-03-03T11:13:29.234000+08:00 |
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2026-03-03T11:13:37.963000+08:00 |
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以去年對美出口的總額來推算的話，每個月承受的額外關稅大概是多少，你覺得這個影響的程度是怎麼樣？ |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0.977 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
楊總談判代表珍妮 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-03-03T11:13:40.508000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2026-03-03T11:14:00.623000+08:00 |
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從去年來講，今年還沒有公布ART的時候，我們都是20%疊加，現在因為美國122是10%疊加，其實比過去的2月20號之前，它的稅率是比較低的。 |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
0.926 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
楊總談判代表珍妮 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-03-03T11:14:01.123000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2026-03-03T11:14:09.506000+08:00 |
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所以有些輸美的產品，它的MFN稅率是低的話，其實跟其他各國的這些國家是一樣的。 |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-03-03T11:14:11.058000+08:00 |
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2026-03-03T11:14:21.463000+08:00 |
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所以目前我們的起跑點跟其他國家基本上都是一致的，但是如果未來ART簽訂之後，應該是會有比較好的起跑點，可以這麼說嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
楊總談判代表珍妮 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-03-03T11:14:21.463000+08:00 |
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2026-03-03T11:14:34.870000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
對，因為我們跟有些國家沒有簽……美國沒有簽FTA，所以我們15%不疊加，我們就取得跟日本、韓國這些國家……跟他有貿易協定的，我們是得到相對優惠的待遇。 |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0.968 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-03-03T11:14:38.261000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2026-03-03T11:15:12.425000+08:00 |
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從122到未來，現在是10%，但是因為川普總統已經說到15%，未來的變化，我還是必須要強調，美國有很多關稅的工具、很多關稅的法律，他如果不用由最高法院裁定的國際緊急經濟權力法，還是可以用其他的方式，包含使用301條款去調查，所以為什麼我們說ART對臺灣那麼重要，是因為在這個框架裡面，它保護了臺灣的產業，特別是我們最關鍵的出口產業，包含半導體。 |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.959 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-03-03T11:15:13.045000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2026-03-03T11:15:46.142000+08:00 |
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我也理解，剛才幾位在野黨的立法委員都有針對ART的這個品項、那個品項做細節上的探討，但是我們做的是戰略上的探討，如果我們現在沒有辦法鞏固ART的話，美國行政權的工具實在是太多了，他們可以用其他的方式授權、用其他的政治命令來提高對其他國家的關稅，所以當我們有ART這個架構，它某種程度是保護我們重要的產業。 |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0.93 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-03-03T11:15:46.142000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2026-03-03T11:16:15.566000+08:00 |
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所以我在這裡請教院長一個比較前瞻性的問題，USTR已經宣布將加速推動多項301條款調查、對外國不公平貿易行為的調查機制，它所涵蓋的包含過量的產能、藥品的訂價、數位服務稅等等，這個之前楊政委的簡報也有提到，122條款150天屆滿後，就像我剛才提到的，301條款可能會成為它法律的長期工具。 |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0.926 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-03-03T11:16:17.175000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2026-03-03T11:16:24.679000+08:00 |
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概略地請教，ART的架構有沒有辦法提供足夠的防護去避免未來可能的301的調查？ |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0.941 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-03-03T11:16:26.980000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2026-03-03T11:16:51.451000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
我們當初跟美國談判的時候，對等關稅跟232是一起談判的，當時美國還沒有大規模啟動301的調查，所以我們在MOU簽訂的同時，跟美方有一定的默契是未來232的部分，會持續依照雙方所談的過程，給我們最優惠的待遇。 |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
0.989 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-03-03T11:16:52.132000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2026-03-03T11:17:09.401000+08:00 |
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當時是沒有談到301，但是我認為，如果我們繼續爭取維持原來協議的內容的話，基於這樣的精神，它要擴大232跟301的調查，我們也持續以對於我方國家跟產業的最大利益來向美國做最優惠待遇的爭取。 |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.949 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-03-03T11:17:10.216000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-03-03T11:17:29.110000+08:00 |
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我特別提到這件事情是因為301調查的時程通常是12到18個月，USTR這次說要「加速」，所以如果301條款在150天內就啟動，而我們的ART如果還在等美方的法源明確化，或者是在等待我們的國會授權的話，時間上會不會出現空窗？ |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0.978 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-03-03T11:17:30.491000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2026-03-03T11:17:40.502000+08:00 |
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我們當然沒有辦法替美方說它的時程，但我認為它面對全世界那麼多國家，已經談妥的部分是不是有可能有機會來做比較快速的處理？ |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0.911 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-03-03T11:17:40.642000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2026-03-03T11:17:42.364000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
我們當然存在這樣的期待。 |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-03-03T11:17:44.289000+08:00 |
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2026-03-03T11:17:57.475000+08:00 |
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因為現在國際秩序在不斷變動當中，有些東西不是操之在我們的，有些東西則是操之在我們的，包含國會授權、包含確保我們已經得到的這個被保護的ART能夠審議通過，我認為這是一個很好的方式。 |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
0.976 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-03-03T11:17:58.596000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2026-03-03T11:18:13.982000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
針對投資的部分，我還是要請教，ART附件3承諾了850億的能源和航空器採購，包含液化天然氣等等，年度從2025年到2029年，還有企業2,500億的赴美投資承諾。 |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0.915 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-03-03T11:18:14.702000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2026-03-03T11:18:35.808000+08:00 |
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我認為包含行政院也好，我們必須跟民眾強調的是，這不是單純的買東西或技術轉移，而是要爭取最有利的條件去強調這是互利合作的，也就是說，它不是把錢花出去，而是一個長期的投資，而這個投資是跟臺灣有互益、互利、互惠的。 |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
0.968 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-03-03T11:18:36.488000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-03-03T11:18:42.754000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
大家都會覺得：我為什麼要投資這麼多、數以百億的美金到美國？ |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2026-03-03T11:18:42.754000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2026-03-03T11:18:48.939000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
原因很簡單，因為你的投資長期來講是有效益的，甚至也不用長期，初期就已經有效益了。 |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
0.917 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2026-03-03T11:18:49.780000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2026-03-03T11:18:56.746000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
包含台積電在內，很多人說：我們會不會把這個利益掏空，或者是把技術全方位地移到美國？ |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0.892 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2026-03-03T11:18:56.746000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2026-03-03T11:19:17.165000+08:00 |
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其實院長都已經很清楚地跟所有民眾談論過了，我們最先進的製程在臺灣，另外一點就是，臺灣並沒有那麼多足夠的空間去容納非最先進製程的生產，我們當然是要把所有的資源遍布在世界上，這就是我們更大的利基啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
0.956 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2026-03-03T11:19:17.925000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2026-03-03T11:19:21.266000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
我認為這些東西都是必須跟民眾好好討論的。 |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2026-03-03T11:19:21.766000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
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2026-03-03T11:19:40.290000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
不過我還是要強調，這850億美元不是小數目，我們不是配合性的支出，而是有戰略性的投資，所以包含行政院未來把ART送立法院審議的時候，可不可以一併提供具體的執行承諾和議價的成果，還有未來可能的收益，讓民眾更加瞭解？ |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
0.958 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2026-03-03T11:19:41.430000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2026-03-03T11:20:04.190000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
第一個，產業做全球的布局投資，長期以來都是如此，過去臺灣的產業也向中國大陸去做投資、去做設廠，但是相對的，把我們的傳統產業跟民生工業有一部分帶過去之後，造成我們內部的問題，但現在因為不再寄望於那種低廉價的勞力。沒錯。 |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
0.949 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2026-03-03T11:20:04.630000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2026-03-03T11:20:08.814000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
我們往其他更大的地方去做投資、做全球布局，政府支持。 |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
0.957 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2026-03-03T11:20:08.974000+08:00 |
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2026-03-03T11:20:36.092000+08:00 |
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但是基於過去的經驗，我們一樣會要求在國家安全跟我們經濟的整個環節底下，要守住臺灣優先、立足臺灣的這個根本，我們才能夠允許到國外去做投資，政府跟企業之間這個默契是存在的，所以未來要做什麼樣的投資，除了他自己的自主投資之外，要符合國家的政策，我們要滿足根留臺灣這樣的目標。 |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
0.976 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2026-03-03T11:20:36.092000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2026-03-03T11:20:36.812000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
好，謝謝院長。 |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2026-03-03T11:20:36.912000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2026-03-03T11:20:51.115000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
我們請農業部長，部長好。 |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2026-03-03T11:20:51.556000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2026-03-03T11:20:51.716000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
委員好。 |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2026-03-03T11:20:52.576000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2026-03-03T11:21:09.031000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
部長，我們談判團隊在ART中有爭取到261項農產品的豁免，其中72項是臺灣保證豁免，27項是臺灣專屬的零關稅豁免，包含蝴蝶蘭、觀賞蛙等等，這個是非常不容易，我要感謝談判團隊。 |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
0.986 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2026-03-03T11:21:09.211000+08:00 |
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2026-03-03T11:21:31.972000+08:00 |
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而現在有一個現實的問題，就是在122條款之下，這些豁免暫時沒有被納入，根據農業部自己發布的數據，包含蝴蝶蘭在ART下是零關稅，但是現在變成了15%加上MFN，它未來會跟荷蘭是站在同一個起跑點上面，所以我們國家獨特的優勢暫時消失了。 |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
0.98 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2026-03-03T11:21:32.552000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2026-03-03T11:21:42.559000+08:00 |
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毛豆的ART是15%，現在是18.8%，包含鳳梨等72項保障的豁免品項，也是暫時失效的狀態。 |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
0.971 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2026-03-03T11:21:42.559000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2026-03-03T11:21:53.465000+08:00 |
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我想請問部長，從2月24日122條款生效到現在，目前有沒有接到一些外銷的業者來反映訂單的影響，或者是具體的案例？ |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
0.957 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2026-03-03T11:21:53.805000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2026-03-03T11:21:55.006000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].text |
這個影響規模大概是什麼樣的程度？ |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2026-03-03T11:21:55.866000+08:00 |
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2026-03-03T11:22:17.158000+08:00 |
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跟委員報告，因為我們現在所簽署的ART還沒有真正的生效，所以對業者來講，他是跟去年來比，去年是20%有疊加的方式，現在是10%，122條款目前是10%有疊加，所以相對於去年，其實已經比較好了，這是第一個重點。 |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
0.988 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2026-03-03T11:22:17.158000+08:00 |
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2026-03-03T11:22:57.870000+08:00 |
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第二個重點，因為我們在外銷的時候，除了絕對關稅以外，還有跟競爭對手國相對關稅的比例，在去年的時候，以蝴蝶蘭來講，因為荷蘭是只有15%，我們是20%，所以我們相對於比較弱勢，今年因為都是10%疊加，有比較好的、同樣的立足點，所以對業者來講，他們說現在的過渡期是比去年還好，當然他們還是期待ART的內容能夠趕快跟美國確認以後，能夠維持著，我們目前也正在積極的跟美國做確認。 |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
0.95 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2026-03-03T11:22:58.953000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[67].end |
2026-03-03T11:23:03.936000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].text |
部長，所以就如同剛才談判總代表提到的，現在不是15%，是10%？對。 |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
0.88 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[68].start |
2026-03-03T11:23:03.936000+08:00 |
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2026-03-03T11:23:06.577000+08:00 |
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就是儘管總統宣布15%，但是還沒有正式的實施？ |
| transcript.gazette[68].quality |
0.947 |
| transcript.gazette[69].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[69].start |
2026-03-03T11:23:06.978000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[69].end |
2026-03-03T11:23:09.299000+08:00 |
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對，川普總統還沒有經過正式的程序。 |
| transcript.gazette[69].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[70].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[70].start |
2026-03-03T11:23:09.579000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[70].end |
2026-03-03T11:23:17.524000+08:00 |
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所以現在10%疊加MFN是全球一併適用的狀況之下，此時此刻，我們甚至還有比去年好一點的優勢？是。 |
| transcript.gazette[70].quality |
0.929 |
| transcript.gazette[71].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[71].start |
2026-03-03T11:23:18.484000+08:00 |
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2026-03-03T11:23:48.496000+08:00 |
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好，謝謝部長，我必須要強調在等待ART落實的這段時間，首先我們國會要通過，再來就是我們等待落實這段時間，針對假設有外銷的品項，國內的配套也會有預先準備，因為法律工具非常多，特別是行政權，他們的法律工具非常多，所以這個部分應該有做好，包含蝴蝶蘭外銷的運費補貼，或者是冷鏈申請的補助，假設又有新的變局，我們農業部都已經準備好了？ |
| transcript.gazette[71].quality |
0.946 |
| transcript.gazette[72].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[72].start |
2026-03-03T11:23:49.476000+08:00 |
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2026-03-03T11:24:02.925000+08:00 |
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跟委員報告，包括我們的農安基金300億，還有我們農業部本來的預算，我們不會等到ART真正的生效以後才去處理，因為這一次的對美談判其實對農業來講是一個機會，所以對外，我們會確保我們的外銷優勢；對內，我們更會鞏固我們國產品競爭的優勢。 |
| transcript.gazette[72].quality |
0.951 |
| transcript.gazette[73].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[73].start |
2026-03-03T11:24:12.192000+08:00 |
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2026-03-03T11:24:30.055000+08:00 |
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好，我剛剛提到蝴蝶蘭，因為它在我們選區裡面是非常重要的產品，在大林，包含毛豆，毛豆加工升級的機制，還有加速拓展日本，這些都是我們聽到有很多業者或者是鄉親們希望未來能夠來處理的，不管…… |
| transcript.gazette[73].quality |
0.939 |
| transcript.gazette[74].speaker |
陳部長駿季 |
| transcript.gazette[74].start |
2026-03-03T11:24:30.755000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[74].end |
2026-03-03T11:24:35.836000+08:00 |
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對，美國的市場以外，我們對於其他主要農產品的外銷市場，我們同時會兼顧。 |
| transcript.gazette[74].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[75].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[75].start |
2026-03-03T11:24:35.836000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].guessed |
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2026-03-03T11:24:37.757000+08:00 |
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非常感謝部長。 |
| transcript.gazette[75].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[76].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[76].start |
2026-03-03T11:24:38.017000+08:00 |
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2026-03-03T11:24:39.017000+08:00 |
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接下來，我們要請龔部長。 |
| transcript.gazette[76].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[77].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[77].start |
2026-03-03T11:24:39.017000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[77].end |
2026-03-03T11:24:48.400000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].text |
請龔部長備詢。 |
| transcript.gazette[77].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[78].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[78].start |
2026-03-03T11:24:48.400000+08:00 |
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2026-03-03T11:25:01.426000+08:00 |
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在龔部長到講臺之前，我們先簡單的來關心一下，我主要是針對中南部的機械，還有食品加工、紡織及成衣等這些聚落。 |
| transcript.gazette[78].quality |
0.812 |
| transcript.gazette[79].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[79].start |
2026-03-03T11:25:01.886000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].guessed |
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2026-03-03T11:25:20.217000+08:00 |
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在經濟部的壓力預測下，我看到機械產業受衝擊的預估是-1.32%，紡織是-1.1%，這些都是大量集中在中南部的產業，請問460億韌性特別預算核准的比例、方向，有沒有比較一下中南部業者占多少比例？ |
| transcript.gazette[79].quality |
0.861 |
| transcript.gazette[80].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[80].start |
2026-03-03T11:25:20.717000+08:00 |
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2026-03-03T11:25:22.058000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].text |
會不會有北重南輕情形？ |
| transcript.gazette[80].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[81].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[81].start |
2026-03-03T11:25:22.058000+08:00 |
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2026-03-03T11:25:25.440000+08:00 |
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或是有大企業吃得到、中小企業吃不到的狀況？ |
| transcript.gazette[81].quality |
0.947 |
| transcript.gazette[82].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[82].start |
2026-03-03T11:25:25.440000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[82].end |
2026-03-03T11:25:26.861000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].text |
因為剛才我們一直提到的這些…… |
| transcript.gazette[82].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[83].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[83].start |
2026-03-03T11:25:27.502000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[83].end |
2026-03-03T11:25:37.769000+08:00 |
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報告委員，我們一定都是開放的，但事實上，我們的座談會在中南部辦的最多，尤其是南部，因為南部傳統產業比較多，而且我們的產業輔導團也都是分區的，每個區域都有一個責任區，所以會照顧到所有產業，不會讓哪個產業或哪個企業因為不知道這樣的information而失去申請補助的機會，不會這樣子。 |
| transcript.gazette[83].quality |
0.3 |
| transcript.gazette[84].speaker |
龔部長明鑫 |
| transcript.gazette[84].start |
2026-03-03T11:25:37.769000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].guessed |
1 |
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2026-03-03T11:25:48.651000+08:00 |
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以目前輔導團的結果來看，現在已經核准的，北部大概是六百多家，南部大概四百多家，中部大概三百多家，大致是這樣的比例，但我們還會持續的加強。 |
| transcript.gazette[84].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[85].speaker |
陳委員冠廷 |
| transcript.gazette[85].start |
2026-03-03T11:25:48.651000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[85].end |
2026-03-03T11:25:59.533000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].text |
好，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[85].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[86].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[86].start |
2026-03-03T11:25:59.533000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[86].end |
2026-03-03T11:26:10.415000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].text |
細部是不是請用書面，好不好？好。 |
| transcript.gazette[86].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[87].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[87].start |
2026-03-03T11:26:10.415000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[87].end |
2026-03-03T11:26:13.140000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].text |
謝謝陳委員、謝謝卓院長。 |
| transcript.gazette[87].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[88].speaker |
卓院長榮泰 |
| transcript.gazette[88].start |
2026-03-03T11:26:13.640000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[88].end |
2026-03-03T11:26:14.782857+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[88].text |
謝謝委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[88].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[89].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[89].start |
2026-03-03T11:26:15.082857+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[89].end |
2026-03-03T11:26:18.225714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[89].text |
下一位請黃健豪委員質詢。 |
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0 |