| IVOD_ID |
167287 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167287 |
| 日期 |
2026-01-28 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-01-28T11:16:00+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-01-28T11:21:42+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:05:42 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/0b5ec5fbcfced67d8e9c4295b23fe087f4fe19c94b211847e2c12228464ea44cf710d25578a6b90f5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
葉元之 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:16:00 - 11:21:42 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-01-28T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
1.游被提名人盈隆-立法院第11屆第4會期內政、司法及法制委員會第2次聯席會議（事由：審查行政院函送中央選舉委員會委員提名名單，游盈隆為委員並為主任委員，胡博硯為委員並為副主任委員，黃文玲、李禮仲、蘇嘉宏、蘇子喬及陳宗義均為委員，請同意案。【1月28日及29日二天一次會】） |
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麻煩請那個游教授游教授游元好游教授好 這樣跟游教授請教一下在我們選罷法裡面有規定如果要罷免的話要一年之後才能夠進行那你覺得當初選罷法會這樣子規定的原因是什麼為什麼不是立刻選完之後就可以搞罷免一定要一年後我猜想立法者大概也意識到這個 |
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不要讓這個當選完之後立刻面臨當選人被罷免的情境不要說這個讓人家輸不起就搞罷免嘛應該是這樣吧總是要讓人家做個一年看看做得好或不好再來決定要不要罷免但是在這個李靖勇前主委在這邊我也問過他一樣的問題他說沒有不可以啊 |
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現在的法律是沒有不可以啊換句話說如果我選上了輸給我的人輸不起他可能覺得說他在選舉過程當中有什麼失誤或他覺得他想要再拚翻盤的機會他在敗選的隔天他跟他的團隊就可以來搞罷免這個是我們現在法律規定就是這樣嗎您的看法 |
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我看怎麼詮釋啦我覺得選舉結束之後如果有國民不滿選舉結果不滿當選人所以他會對他講出很多負面的話說要罷免等等等等那是屬於言論自由的範圍言論自由當然都尊重但是如果是由敗選的那一方或其政黨 |
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在背後煽動發起的你覺得這有符合民主的常態嗎因為以目前的法律的規定事實上也是一年之後才能夠進行罷免像中選會才能夠 可是問題是輸的人他可以在輸的隔天就開始規劃 煽動然後搞大罷免嘛 |
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我們去年看到的狀況就是這樣雖然民進黨嘴巴不講是他們發動的但柯建民總召就很誠實嘛他在接受媒體訪問的時候就說在投票的隔天還是隔兩天就去找過賴總統啊這在他媒體訪問公開講的啊怎麼透過罷免去扭轉國會的席次嘛在我們那一區包括我們國民黨很多立委的選區都一樣啊發動罷免推動罷免最用力的就是輸的那一方嘛我那一區就是這樣啊 |
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158.888 |
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177.649 |
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他的我在那個罷免說明會我有公開資料啊他輸給我的那個立委的服務處主任沒多久就成立了一個就加入一個這個罷免的社團在推動然後不然就是想要取而代之的民進黨的人主要在推動嘛那這是民主常態嗎你覺得是嗎 |
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178.963 |
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192.413 |
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當然不是 這是政治問題啦對啊 那問題是法律規範不嚴謹或中選會的按住就會造成這樣反民主的狀況出現嘛所以如果說您當主委當然中選會是辦選務的機關但您也是洞見觀瞻啊 |
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197.616 |
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225.286 |
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如果是您的話 您覺得要怎麼去結合您的未來的職務讓這種反民主的狀況繼續發生我們只能夠依法行政 就中選會的角度來講但是以我作為一個政治學者的角度來講我長期以來反對在國會議員的層次 立委來存在一個罷免制度因為全世界先進民主國家沒有哪一個國家的國會議員 |
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227.54 |
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252.79 |
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美國的聯邦參議員 眾議員當選之後面臨被罷免沒有的 制度上就不存在這種可能性但是台灣也許這個就是說在孫中山先生的思想底下然後去制定的選舉罷免創制復建那個是這樣子因為我們國家不可能沒有罷免因為走到這一步不可能沒有罷免 |
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253.97 |
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279.015 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].text |
應該是怎麼去完善那個罷免的制度比如說現在因為罷免的門檻比較低它只要兩成五嘛所以就會讓選輸的人覺得有機可乘怎麼透過大罷免去扭轉剛剛產生的民意這就是我覺得制度造成的漏洞但是大罷免結果其實對社會非常傷害像我們那一區就出現非常多的對立包括家庭 |
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280.616 |
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306.703 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].text |
長輩跟子女之間也因為立場不一樣罷免的仇恨的煽動彼此不和甚至有女兒離開家庭都有我覺得這個是當初發動大罷免的人他可能沒有顧慮到那麼多但這絕對不會只是政治的問題這是整個社會的問題它會影響到整個社會因為我覺得這個事情是非常嚴重沒有正當性的罷免那時候罷免我的被推出來的領銜人用了一個理由 |
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307.737 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].end |
316.633 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].text |
2023年葉元之怎麼樣怎麼樣所以要罷免葉元之我2024才做立委就是說因為剛選完就要搞罷免他也找不出什麼理由他就是這樣隨便亂講這個就是罷免制度的漏洞 |
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320.243 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].end |
337.581 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].text |
我們對未來的主委或是現在的游教授充滿了期待覺得到時候如果在一些法令的解釋、詮釋甚至改革上面希望說您可以更積極的去讓我們的台灣更民主、更健全我一定會這麼做好 謝謝 |