| IVOD_ID |
167275 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167275 |
| 日期 |
2026-01-28 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-01-28T09:24:51+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-01-28T09:32:53+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:02 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/0b5ec5fbcfced67d451f291e28511d36f4fe19c94b211847e2c12228464ea44c61cd8283283c7cb85ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
牛煦庭 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:24:51 - 09:32:53 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-01-28T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
1.游被提名人盈隆-立法院第11屆第4會期內政、司法及法制委員會第2次聯席會議（事由：審查行政院函送中央選舉委員會委員提名名單，游盈隆為委員並為主任委員，胡博硯為委員並為副主任委員，黃文玲、李禮仲、蘇嘉宏、蘇子喬及陳宗義均為委員，請同意案。【1月28日及29日二天一次會】） |
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謝主席 請備題名人游教授好 早安林委員早 |
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這個您大部分我們認識游教授都是在新聞媒體上因為這個台灣民意基金會的這個民意調查也算是赫赫有名長時間的滾動提供了政治圈非常多攻打守變的一個素材那大家在 |
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這個看到游盈隆教授被列為中選會主委的提名人的時候大家當然是有一些意外也有很多問題想要請教那麼今天很高興有這樣一個機緣可以跟教授來做一下面對面的討論我問的第一個問題就是你應該如何確保啊這個如果有幸成為中選會主委啊因為你平常也評論非常多的一個政治的事務也做民意調查在基金會裡面有職務你怎麼樣確保這之間的分際可以非常的清楚你打算做哪一些的決定 |
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謝謝牛委員我已經有了相當的覺悟擔任中選會主委也有一定程度的犧牲是要付出的我可能失去了自由我的意思是說失去評論台灣公開評論台灣政治的自由作為一個政治學者 |
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我作為一個關心台灣的知識分子那樣的一個犧牲是重大的但是為了更高的目的為了更重大的目標我覺得我必須做這樣的歌聲一語雄長不能得見好 所以意思就是說不會再發表相關的評論民意調查等等也會離開基金會的職務是這樣的意思嗎如果大院能夠 |
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通過中選會主委的人事同意權任命我將辭去台灣民意教育基金會的董事長也辭去董事我採取比法律更嚴格的標準做自我的要求非常好 謝謝 |
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那麼我們再針對幾個常常我們在中選會這個平台做討論的題目跟教授做一下意見的交換這個目前立法院有很多的委員提案修正公職人員選罷法或者是不在籍投票的各種相關的一個草案那也有這個 |
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這個大家的版本不一樣但大部分的版本基本上都是限於所謂的境內移轉投票有關不在籍投票的部分換言之就是透過登記的部分我不見得要舟車勞頓的返鄉我可以在就近的投票所去投別的選擇在自己戶籍所在地的這樣子的一個投票那我想請問一下被提名人立法院如果修正相關的法令新增了不在籍投票相關的制度限於國內移轉投票請問您會不會忠實的執行立法院通過的法律當然 |
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如果立法院通過了不在籍投票中選會只有依法行政全力以赴好 謝謝那您覺得在您如果你有機會領導中選會啦你可能需要多少時間來做好境內移轉投票制度的相關準備工作我不知道這項立法到時候在立法院會如何通過整個制度的內容到底是怎麼樣 |
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我不清楚但是我也要就最近我从我们中选会同仁那里所得到的许多的资讯我深深的感觉不在即投票是世界的潮流也是台湾许多人直觉上对的一个 |
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努力方向但是当我们在讲世界各国很多都采取了不在籍投票的时候台湾没有感觉到自己落后了自己很惭愧我觉得那种心情是可以理解的我肯定那是一个进步的思维可是我们也不能够脱离现实 |
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如果回到我們自己的國家的選舉制度我們深入去看很快就會發現不在籍投票牽涉的是非常複雜的選舉的工程尤其是九合一我打電話 因為時間很有限大概抓多少時間去做它當然是個浩大的工程因為比較具體的想法讓我講這一句 |
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尤其是在九合一地方選舉裡面實施不在籍投票就現階段來講肯定是一個災難中選會已經提出來如果在九合一地方選舉辦不在籍投票將會造成將近九千種不同的選票在極端的狀況下所以我覺得這個是 |
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很重要的一點 我們喜歡看天邊的彩霞 但不要踩壞了眼前的一大玫瑰讓我們的傲視世界的台灣 選舉然後蒙城教授 那到底是要執行還是不執行 花多少時間準備 |
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所以我剛剛講原則上我剛剛已經講但是願意執行但需要很多時間準備實際上要通過什麼樣的制度內容目前您知道嗎還是您可以現在告訴我我可以做回應當然這個有很多不同的版本 |
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這個如果你有幸擔任中學會主委相信還有很多討論的機會但因為時間有限我們還有問最後幾個問題因為我們的執政黨曾經表示如果施行不在即投票會導致選民投票的信任消失會有作票的風險也曾經說會有讓中國大陸借選更加容易即便我們剛剛講的現在的不在即投票的版本是國內的移轉投票 |
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這樣子的一個說法 你認同嗎在您領導下的中選會 你如何去避免選務公信力下降的問題你該如何把這個東西帶領好你真的覺得不再投票會有作票的風險嗎請你簡要回答就好選務行政的公信力是非常重要 甚至是最重要的讓選民相信選舉的結果是公正的那 但是呢 |
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實施不在籍投票最大的困難是來自於執行面在可行性我覺得境外的影響等等可能是比較其次比較其次 還是在於選務整個在操辦選務過程中遇到的一些新政的困難那你有沒有信心可以逐步的解決 我不要講一步到位 |
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如果立法院提了一個中選會沒辦法執行的一個方案壓垮中選會我也沒辦法在這邊跟您保證說一定就能夠做得好如果這樣的話是不負責任的好 謝謝教授 因為今天時間有限不過我建議你 後面還有很多委員要就教就直接回答這樣子就好 好吧好 這給你一點點提醒跟建議 祝你今天順利 謝謝 |