| IVOD_ID |
167270 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167270 |
| 日期 |
2026-01-28 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-20-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期財政委員會第19次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
19 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期財政委員會第19次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-01-28T10:11:54+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-01-28T10:22:58+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:04 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/0b5ec5fbcfced67d1e161d122c07925511b3bb87f1b5dc7ac551decc99d7f3b220347047a26059635ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
賴惠員 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:11:54 - 10:22:58 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-01-28T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期財政委員會第19次全體委員會議（事由：邀請財政部莊部長翠雲就「統一發票經費編列及宣傳推廣業務執行情形」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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我請財政部部長好 請莊部長是 部長早安聯長我想針對統一花票的給獎還有推行的一個預算來跟部長做一個探討當然就是統一花票的一個抽獎那其實就是跟我們日常生活其實是相關的 |
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那就是說每天買東西我們會去索取花票會不會中獎這個是我們生活上的一個經驗那在這裡跟部長跟那個署長討論一下就是統一花票相關經會的一個編列跟執行那這個非常明確的我們看到了就是說這個法院上沒有問題我們就是從那個 |
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前年的那個營業總稅額提撥3%來支付可是如果我們看到的就是說在115年你的這個預算書裡頭 |
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那你編了就是1971億可是你這個統一花票如果你用那個3%來提撥的話那你其實才是1790億這個數字那你多出來的18億是從哪邊來的 |
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在這裡面因為百分之三算出來以後除了給獎之外那還有需要一些行政的一些經費那這裡面獎金其實是佔了將近百分之九十六都是發送獎金那還有一些就是一關系統的維運還有發售經費以及推行經費 |
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這個部分是這樣的一個做編列那最主要還是作為獎金發放所以你的獎金就佔了96%將近96% |
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對 相關經費 對就其中有關獎金的部分就達到96% 對所以就是說如果那你這樣子114年的這個預算數的話因為你受台美關係的一個影響你少編了那115年那為什麼會多編呢 |
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我們是按照營業稅的全年的預算數預算案數來估3%對金額來這樣算那114年度因為是我們當時編的以後在立法院審議的時候被通山掉了這個經費所以下降當時有通山那所以減少那115年我們因為目前預算案還沒有審我們是按照全年的營業稅的預算數 |
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來按3%做編列好 你是因為就是114年被統三了那賴世保委員他有質疑你就是說你的115年那你編的這一個營業稅收入的那個預算總數那個的657億的這個3%變成是197億那還沒有收到的錢你怎麼編預算啊 |
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這個可以解釋一下嗎所以每一年大概都是這樣我們還沒有收到但是我們還是要因為依照法律是全年收入的3%所以我們要先編這個編在稅出的部分那稅入歸稅入所以都會編都用這樣的方式來編還沒有收到但是還是要先編那我們就會按照這樣的數字來安排每一期要開發的開獎的一個組數所以說這個編列預算沒有問題沒有問題就是說 |
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就是說有些委員之一你說你這個編列預算是不是你用你的行政財產權還是說用其他的一個方式變成這樣的一個情況沒有 我們都是按照我們先估一個營業稅的全國收入的預算案數來做編列的 |
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好部長剛才我聽到了就是說你們對電子花票的一個推廣的一個成效你們感到非常非常的滿意那本席今天就是這個帶了兩張花票特別跟你做參考這個是電子花票這個是傳統的花票傳統花票他 |
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它有一個200塊的一個特別獎那雲端的它是500塊那這個雲端的話正如你們講的推廣的這麼好那是不是相對的對我們這些偏鄉這些偏鄉的這一些百姓的話顯然是有點吃虧 |
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為什麼他變成一個數位的二等公民因為我們很多老人其實他沒有辦法用智慧性的一個手機那你看你現在所有就是說我讓你用一個台南台南的一個本席的選區裡頭11個區其實他這裡才只有三個區是達到了你的那個雲端花票的一個標準那 |
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後面的幾乎幾乎有很多就是說他還是用在資本花票裡頭那針對了這個情況的話就是說我們好像看到了你們推廣的這些數字非常的漂亮可是實際上實際上對於偏鄉的這些人顯然就是不太公平那部長你怎麼看待這個事情 |
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我想委員您這樣的一個建議非常好我們也要去除了都會型的以外在偏鄉的部分讓民眾也會去用所謂的雲端發票那用了雲端發票它這中獎機會當然也就跟著增加那你用什麼方式呢偏鄉你用什麼方式呢因為我們現在看到就是你的總體那個成長量 |
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那可是我們沒有看到你那個縮小那個偏鄉的一個差距是不是有一些方式有一些方式就是說我們從店家當然推廣是非常重要推廣了直接你們有沒有就是說去強化強化就是說到農會去到廟宇去還有到長照的機構去還是說中午共餐的地方這個其實就是最基本的因為你要普及嘛 |
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你希望來普及嘛那你店家徵購的這一些那個設備有沒有辦法我們去鼓勵他 |
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我们其实也有一些鼓励的一些措施我们希望尤其是有一些商家可以使用云端发票那我们都鼓励然后国税局也会下乡去做辅导除外我们对于优秀的厂商商家也会做鼓励跟颁奖那我觉得委员您所提到的就是说 |
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長輩他沒有這個手機裡面的手機條碼以至於他縱使想要用雲端發票而沒有辦法有載具讓他刷然後進入所謂的雲端發票這個部分那我們這一次在有關推廣計劃裡面已經有做一些調整跟修正那委員您所提出的這個部分我們會把它納進去看用什麼樣的方式除了對於賣家就是所謂的商店 |
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來做處理之外同時對於消費者的部分因為他本身沒有這方面的意識的話那我們可以看用什麼方式讓他可以更深入他沒有經驗的話你要加深他的經驗他使用的一個經驗對 你只要 你看 |
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這個你這樣宣傳刷這一張兩百塊得獎兩百塊刷這一張得獎五百塊這個非常顯而易見要不然我來整個我講的時候我就來講我就幫你講這些事情可是問題是你的配套要出來配套要出來啊那這些配套的話就是說我覺得 |
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部長你講的還是有點空話我希望就是說你可以講的比較具體因為我們鄉下的長輩他很多就是用健保卡健保卡幾乎比他的身份證他用到的次數還多那有沒有機會就是說我們把這個載具這個載具其實你那個條碼都可以刷出來就是鼓勵他們把它貼在他的那個 |
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那個健保卡那個上面然後當然是要綁定戶頭啦這個的話其實這個一個很小的動作如果我們財政部很具體的去把它推動的時候我相信對這一個電子花票的一個推廣馬上會看到成效 |
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是的我想我們國稅局在有很多地方都有所謂基徵所以及分局要更深入了解當地的一個情況然後用什麼方式加強推廣那當然這個部分我們也可以跟委員請教也就是長輩們他最習慣用什麼我們用什麼樣的方式來讓他們更接受這樣的一個方式來做消費 |
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是 你講到你的國稅局我要特別提醒你你這個次長的人事跟後面整個署長還有就是你的國稅局局長這個一大掛的人其實都是在等這個上端的這個次長的人事案你全部一堆都塞車了你知不知道這個情況 |
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相關的人事我們會做通盤的考量會也快盡速處理是你要盡速啊你要盡速啊就是這個大家其實在那邊就是人心惶惶啊到底誰要去當市長誰要來當署長然後局長誰來那個這個整個就是說可以坐在這個位置好好的來做事情是謝謝委員執教是好 |
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所以在這裡還是要特別再跟部長就是說比較具體的一個那個 |
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建議了就是說電子花票在這個城鄉差距上你在鄉下的一個推動事實上他是有他的一個必須要可是你要用對方法這個方法這個有賴於就是說大家的一個用心我還是建議就是說我們用在我們的健保卡我們這個條碼把它貼在我們的這個健保卡上面的話我相信這個成效會很快很快就 |
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表現出來了會在這裡還是那個請部長好好考慮一下委員的建議我們會納入研議參考用什麼方式去做我希望就是說你這個一個月的時間可以提出來一個比較好的一個推廣的方式一個月內給委員報告是謝謝謝謝委員好謝謝賴會員委員 |
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接下來我們請鍾嘉賓委員質詢 |