| IVOD_ID |
167267 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167267 |
| 日期 |
2026-01-28 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-20-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期財政委員會第19次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
19 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期財政委員會第19次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-01-28T09:48:23+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-01-28T10:00:16+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:53 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/0b5ec5fbcfced67d11d0426ce93b73ab11b3bb87f1b5dc7ac551decc99d7f3b282b6391befdefecc5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
郭國文 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:48:23 - 10:00:16 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-01-28T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期財政委員會第19次全體委員會議(事由:邀請財政部莊部長翠雲就「統一發票經費編列及宣傳推廣業務執行情形」進行專題報告,並備質詢。) |
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莊部長好 請莊部長我也好部長 本期想教教您一下去年我們現在八大工庫行庫當中總共賺了多少錢這個總金額我先不清楚是不是那沒關係我們請八大行庫的工庫行庫董事長上來一下請各位董事長上台 |
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我一一詢問我先問一下台銀的部分林董事長你們去年賺了多少錢委員好我們去年是創新高327億創新高然後土銀賺了多少錢 |
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公務員報告我們去年是賺的稅錢是兩百億三千四百萬兩百多少兩百億三千四百萬兩百一億喔那有沒有創新高啊有有創新高好那個兆豐銀行多少三百九十五億有沒有創新高 |
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應該還好差不多好那第一銀行邱董事長多少去年也是創新高金控加起來是稅前是330幾億330幾億330好然後接下來是那個華南陳董事長 |
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我們去年也是創新高創新高稅前是超過300億稅前超過300億好合作金庫林董各位報告我們去年213億也是創新高也是創新高那彰化銀行胡董包委我們彰化銀行去年創新高稅前211億2101111好來中小企業銀行李董 |
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報告委員我們去年也是獲利創新高稅前是152.5億好像只有兆豐沒有創新高而已其他都創新高一個一個來問創新高我請問一下林董既然創新高股票也上升對不對我問一下員工年終獎金要給幾個月 |
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我們國營事業就受到這個國營事業管理法的規範不管我創多高都是4.44.4那土銀也不用問了就4.4好 趙鋒趙鋒要給幾個月報告委員目前規劃大概是8個月因為營運跟金融差不多8個月8個月平均都8個月沒有最高8個月平均平均平均8個月好然後那個接下來邱董事長易營幾個月 |
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報告委員 目前我們也是規劃在八個月上下也是八個月上下好 接下來華南銀行幾個月詳細的數字還沒有出來不過我們會比 應該會比去年高一點現在已經快過年了 還沒出來大概多少 比照八個月可以嗎七個多月七個多月 七個多月 幕僚給說七個多月那核庫呢 |
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我們目前規劃是應該會超過七個月也超過七個月 你是有說好嗎 差不多 張華英好我們接近八個月八個月 也接近八個月我請問一下 中小企業運行幾個月 中小企業運行來 |
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幫委員依照我們的講求辦法的話應該會超過8個月要超過8個月請各位董事長請回我就剩下我問部長全部都創新高幾乎只有趙風鈞可能還不太確定有沒有有沒有創新高 |
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也創新高金控也創新高八大公股都是創新高都創新高那我問一下這年總獎金有沒有創新高部長 |
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我想他們會依照績效來發給應該的你應該要求他們因為不是給公司就給股東就給員工股東就已經股票帳面價值已經有提升了你是不是銀行獲利創新高是不是員工的年終獎金也應該要創新高這比較符合比例原則不是嗎是啊 支持委員的說法所以說如果沒有創新高的你就好好要求他們一下可不可以 |
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我不敢要求他們我只能要求你啊他們不需要要求他們自動就會鼓勵員工然後會給你好的一個獎金我給你一個數字你會後跟我講如果年終獎金沒有創新高你一個列舉給我好不好沒有創新高一個月可以嗎我不知道委員您是說沒有創新高要怎麼樣營業額有創新高你 |
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年终奖金也要创新高年终奖金如果跟着这个获利没有创新高的话就应该被检讨对不对就是没有善待员工好 是来接下来那个麻烦那个台湾银行上来一下台湾银行那个林董林董好 |
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林董那黃金的RWA台銀去年的部分的專案已經創辦已經成功在創新園區辦得不錯它已經達到四個效果了不論是自動化也好或者是同步交割要縮短這個結算也好降低風險也好 |
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那我問一下因為這個RWA的部分應用面的部分可以到一個現實的資產的部分還有包括台幣跟資產跟日幣你這個部分你們會要求去申請這個事辦嗎 |
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會的 跟委員報告大概什麼時候這個我們跟財經公司還有其他八家不管是公股的或者是其他的純民營的金融同業我們本來就組建了一個平台什麼時候 什麼時候試辦我們去年就已經做成這個實驗的成功實驗是什麼 |
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實驗事辦是事辦事辦就是今年開始我們會因為金管會也有指示說希望我們可以成立一個對啊你們都實驗成功了你們還在拖這沒有意思吧你們是一個指標嘛你們去年成功今年就應該事辦嘛會會會今年會去申請那這個事辦的重要性你如果擴大到其他的法幣的話的用意是什麼呢如果將來金管會它這個專法如果通過的話虛擬貨幣專法通過你就馬上可以接軌了沒錯 |
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因为台言师有一个示范性的作用我希望把这个部分做一个关键的一个引导麻烦你给我一个答复一个月内给我一个答复你们进度预计是什么样的方式接下来我请部长 |
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部長 因為最近高齡化的社會大家對退休的經濟安全保障都非常的在意相對勞工的部分相對是比較少但是以部分的話勞工目前的話不管是企業這一個相對提撥6%或勞工自體6%基本上已經經過20年了已經有開始許多多人想要倡議把它提高 |
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那除了勞動部問題之外其實最關鍵的其實是在財政部為什麼因為這裡頭有稅差損的問題一個呢如果說假設以6%提高到8%的話以個人的部分的話大概可以增加到173億企業的部分大概增加到800 |
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33億那以整個有效稅率來換算的話以企業大概是17%的話他的這個稅損的大概是150億那勞工的朋友的話大概有效稅率大概平均大概應該是大概3%左右但我已算5 |
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大概稅損大概增加8億這種情況底下勞動部是不是應該去評估一下這樣的稅損是不是勞動部可以承受得了然後我們可以增加讓勞工呢有更多一個經濟安全保障然後呢減少國家的這個稅收的情況底下這可以讓整個勞工的福利可以提升有沒有可能 部長請說 |
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509.991 |
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534.423 |
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我想委员这个部分我们会后是不是再跟劳动部再来做一个讨论以及他有没有要做一些提高到6%提高到8%以及未来对税收的相关的影响我们会跟劳动部再做进一步的了解你可以先跟本席讨论因为劳动部还没有提案本席有提案本席现在就就教于你因为本席的提案当中除了劳动部的因素之外就是财政部 |
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財政部的部分有兩個面向一個是自提的部分一個是企業提撥的部分顯然企業提撥的稅差損是大概150億但是勞工的部分的稅差損不過是8億也就是說自提的部分其實可以先行事辦企業的部分主力相對比較大後行事辦你可以提供出來介意你可以分階段性的處理有沒有可能 |
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587.677 |
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我想这个部分我们会后再来跟委员请教你会后的部分我给你一个月的时间你评估一下好不好然后依照你这个评估的内容当中接下来我们跟劳动部讨论的时候会有所依据你们是提早准备最后一个问题我请教于您大家都非常关心因为我们想说在台美官报谈判的时候朝向FTA我们都一提到说我们要向美方争取先向免税的一个项目 |
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那我問你啊我們跟人家爭取千項免稅那我問部長美方現在要求我們要爭取多少免稅 |
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幾項 我問幾項而已這個部分因為涉及到他們相互還在簽相關的協議的文本內容既然是涉及我們跟他要求一千項可以講要求的可以講我們被要求的不能講簽署以後會向社會大眾報告你從昨天到現在都回答這句話都沒有邊跟為什麼我們跟他要求說有一千項我們被要求幾項不能講 |
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你站在財政部長你要去面對這個問題我們當然知道是我們會面對從汽車關稅的部分大概多少我們至少要去面對這個問題我根本本性也不是問你說稅率要降到多少都不是我問一個比較具體的問題好了另外一個 |
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這個台美之間啊這個重複科稅的問題啊就避免重複科稅的這個檢免法案已經在這個那個眾議院參過了接下來就經過這個參議院參議院通過以後就可以達成就完成這個效力了嘛 對不對就算財政部的一個政績嘛 對不對 |
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参议院通过后那要因为他是修国内法第一阶段他修国内法然后经过川普总统签署以后我们双方那你有没有算出两边的税差损多少这个双方这个部分会要签个国际文书那至于税差的部分因为其实这双方都相互投资都可以相互适用那事实上税差不是主要的一个议题因为事实上相互投资是会促进双向的贸易以及经济的成长我觉得这个部分是更重要的 |
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那一定會有避免重複課稅的部分嗎避免重複課稅還是會有數字上的問題數字上的問題牽扯到台商或美商之間他們減少稅損的問題當然是有數字的問題啊是有數字我們那只有初估而已初估 好不好可以吧好 謝謝好 謝謝郭國文委員接下來請羅明財委員質詢 |