| IVOD_ID |
167266 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167266 |
| 日期 |
2026-01-28 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-20-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期財政委員會第19次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
19 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期財政委員會第19次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-01-28T09:35:21+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-01-28T09:48:17+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:12:56 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/0b5ec5fbcfced67df657b7a4b6721de411b3bb87f1b5dc7a6156b03e721490b719e861c81d6c028e5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
賴士葆 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:35:21 - 09:48:17 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-01-28T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期財政委員會第19次全體委員會議（事由：邀請財政部莊部長翠雲就「統一發票經費編列及宣傳推廣業務執行情形」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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以及各位先進有請財政部的莊部長請莊部長委員長部長早我想針對今天的題目這個我有算過統一發票這個我們已經修法了一定要稅收的3%要提撥統一發票給獎 |
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那麼在過去幾年 3年內我們看到從114年吧110年到113年總共是超增的2885億乘以3%等於86.6億之多那麼如果講一個平均是200塊錢的話就少掉4330萬個 |
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給獎的機會我們4330萬個中獎的機會除以2300萬人口的話每一個人就少掉1.88次啦等於一個人台灣一個人不管他年紀100歲一直到剛出生的平均一個人少了兩次的中獎機會啊這個部長啊 |
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你不能這個 我們要投資美國 送錢給美國這麼大方這個獎的部分 給老百姓的小確幸這樣子想辦法能扣就扣 你們是針對預算數算算那我為什麼不針對時增數呢 你告訴我原因到底在哪裡 |
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跟委員報告我們產業投資美國不是送錢給美國我想這個第一個要澄清那第二個部分對於統一發票的給獎我們營業稅法我想在報告裡面說的很清楚以全年收入的3%來編列但是我們在編的時候因為並沒有當年度的時增數比如說以114年來說我在編的時候我按照預算案數 |
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來編列如果說當年度的實徵數超過預算數的話那個部分也是歸屬到國庫裡面去而且有40%依照原來的財化法是40%是撥到地方的中央統籌分配稅款並不是全部進國庫那如果115年的話全部都到了地方政府去了你要不要補啊 |
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那怎麼補因為第一個它是那一年114年消費的發票那我們就開講了那再補的話是對115年的發票它並不是同一個年度另外就是預算上的編列就是說下下年度嘛所以我就跟你講說要差兩個年度喔沒錯沒錯以後如果有超增稅收 |
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應該在下下年度補列入預算金額可以嗎可以嗎 我就問你可以嗎跟委員報告現在營業稅都進到除了3%跟1.5%都到了地方政府那這個會減少地方政府的中央統籌分配稅款這會減少 |
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地方政府不會有意見啦因為這給他保險的小缺席地方政府是不是沒有意見我們其實另外在預算法是不是可以做這樣的編列可能還要經過預算法主管機關再來重新看看為什麼不能夠編列你們編列那個獎金用預算跟時時分差這麼多 |
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對不對 我跟你講喔這個 你們一樣你不然就給地方政府 不然就給老百姓我相信我相信地方政府一定money and happy說這筆錢有機會給老百姓因為出錢沒有多少錢啊 |
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因為八十六一四年度一個年度二十億二十四個縣市 二十二個縣市一個縣市多少一億啊有什麼了不起114年是目前來說全國短徵288億那有短徵的話是不是要不要忘了我們的法律規定喔是營業稅3%提獎金提完獎金以後才給地方政府的你們犯規啊 |
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法律規定就是先給 |
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獎金分完以後才給地方政府你不要這個歐陵水痘啊不是不是 美威沒有錯在編預算的時候是這樣但是如果到下兩個年度要再抽出來抽出來嘛 所以我就跟你講下下年度嘛我就跟你講下下年度啊我都寫得沒有錯啊 兩年以後啊那就會減少了原來的要配給地方政府的錢因為還要從裡面抽一一把就要給人家啊對不對 副主計長有意見嗎 |
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請那個蔡副好不好 這個可以編在下下年度嗎報告賴委員那因為這個是財政部主管的 我們尊重財政部的你說我主席叫你啊你 你叫我炒的財政部我跟他奇怪是啦 那按照那個 |
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那個第58條規定喔58條規定很清楚是先給獎金以後再給地方政府嘛先後市區你不要不要把這個這個就推給地方政府啊先製造地方政府跟這個人民的矛盾啊總部長不好喔這樣不厚道喔委員您說在以後兩個年度要再加鞭喔那這個就是扣到原來的部分因為你原來當年度要3% |
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再加上以前年度超過的數字在這個以後的兩年度再來扣出來的話我不是不同意而是依照現行的運作的話多年來都是按照預算案數在編不管是少編也是一樣的如果短休也是一樣的 |
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老百姓比縣市首長重要啦地方政府平均20億平均20幾個縣市平均一個縣市少1億可是這麼多的我們的普羅大眾這個幾千萬人年營業稅是短徵288億短徵就沒有了嘛短徵就沒有這個問題我說超徵就有這個問題啊 |
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對 朝鮮你就兩年度以後補編嘛有這麼難嗎 對不對 這個錢要扣來 我們談到 哇 這個大家關心什麼台美關稅賴總統說趕快省 笑死人 八字只有一撇只有說我們出口去美國的啊美國來台灣的咧 農產品是不是零是不是零 請問是不是零 |
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有關這個關稅的這個部分目前來說台美雙方還在檢視相關的文件啊這個都還在檢視文件等到簽署以後團隊會跟社會大眾報告 |
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案子還沒有啊 還沒送啊那目前來說雙方在檢視相關的文件當中江賴總統這發什麼脾氣 還要罵在黑檔奇怪你都沒有送來只要審出口 進口都還沒有搞定這樣就要說 你們要審喔 你們怎麼可以不審案子都沒有來 為什麼叫我們審呢 |
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對不對 不能這樣子隨便罵什麼時候談完你也不知道因為這是什麼經貿辦對不對 什麼時候送來立法院你也不知道 也沒有送來立法院簽署以後應該會很快的送進大院水裡面我們也希望盡快 對不對 但是呢我是呼籲賴總統要做功課啦賴總統幕僚要幫幫他啦賴總統沒關係 他叫什麼叫神 |
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這個我現在跟你講這個只要送來立法院絕對很快的審這個關係到每一個這個沒有其他沒有second thought沒有第二個想法絕對審而且認真審很快審都不用擔心來我們再請教那個八大關股防空域董事長一起來好嗎好請各位董事長來一起來 部長你在哪裡 |
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上一次來部長我們有說四大飯工股投信要合併那時候阮次主持的我記得第一金何苦造風華南財政部開會是由第一金來主導 |
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結果後來華南歷組啊華南的鄰家大股東反對結果你們整個案子停擺了你們就停擺了我們來聽我講完我講完再講按照頭信的績效第一金排進去前100名的六檔合庫三檔招風一檔 |
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華南的零Z6 說我最大聲他反對 華南反對你不知道要不要講一下話第一個我們這個會朝向這個投信來是合一來合併但就我所知他們都按照相關的進度在推進當中那也沒有華南因為怎麼樣而停擺目前都按期程在進行當中 |
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我就收到人家給我簡體訊啊所以華南因為林家大股東他們負董事長不服董事長所以你們差一點把董事長換掉有沒有這回事啊把誰換掉把董事長換掉沒有啊董事長還在啊華南董事長還在啊陳董事長啊他的民股最大的股東是林家喔 |
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所以你現在是最大股東喔這個四合一目前按照期程在推進當中所以還是第一金在主導因為你遠遠看第一金的規模是最大的還是在主導好 最後一個問題啦這個上一次來了說我們的2500億美金的投資美國的信保基金 |
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我們的國發會說要第一年今年就要籌100億美金請問八大行庫是不是平均分攤有關這個信保基金的一個成立以及出資的部分目前是由國發會在規劃當中除了國發基金還有公股行庫之外也會邀請民營行庫一起來加入 |
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不是 那你的我們的翻工股還會付多少錢那至於未來怎麼樣的一個出資的額度會另外做規劃我請教一個龍頭那個趙鳳京的董事長 董董事長 |
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你有沒有接到國安會跟你諮詢說要你這個出資多少當作這個保證基金包委員現在還沒有這個出資的規劃都沒有出資規劃對 現在還沒有照細部的規劃我讓大家知道分年分期是可以的分年分期我讓大家知道國安會的副主委來這裡前幾天是說年底就要籌100億美金他講得這麼清楚而且主要就是八大飯工股 行庫 |
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應該不是只有八大啦 我們可以先出資但是我們不會唯一出資 應該是所有民營銀行也要進來因為這個整個產業的融資是所有產業所有銀行業的事情不是只有八大關股在做這個融資最後我想講一個啦 其實我很不願意講這個啦台灣的股市很好 大家高興 沒有人不高興的啦但是台灣有嚴重的荷蘭病 |
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股市你現在看多少支股票三分之一以上甚至一半以上都跌了都沒有漲啊指數漲都賺了指數賠了股價到底荷蘭幣晶片半導體產業好很讚的傳統產業慘兮兮啊你去看其他股票 |
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762.585 |
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這個儘管會主委還在想辦法怎麼樣平衡一下所以大家都了解然後沒有人摻摻台灣但是我們希望各個產業都受到照顧而不是只有晶片以及半導體發展這就是荷蘭病這是很不好的現象包委員實際上是政府各個部會都有提供相關的這些輔導措施針對中小企業以及其他可能的一些衰退產業好 謝謝賴司保委員 |
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767.659 |
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770.714 |
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好 大家請回接下來請郭國文委員質詢 |