| IVOD_ID |
167253 |
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https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167253 |
| 日期 |
2026-01-26 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-01-26T14:23:03+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-01-26T14:28:19+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:05:16 |
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| 委員名稱 |
鍾佳濱 |
| 委員發言時間 |
14:23:03 - 14:28:19 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-01-26T13:30:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期內政委員會「不在籍投票立法」公聽會（事由：立法院第11屆第4會期內政委員會「不在籍投票立法」公聽會） |
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好我以為有投影先把投影放出來好謝謝主席剛剛恭聽了恭臨了幾位學者專家的意見我會很快的講今天呢我的主題啊就是台灣投票模式民主友邦都肯定不在即東勢孝平人民難信任怎麼說呢我們來看一下就在去年的九月啊有一位韓國的國會議員金文電他對他們的金明錫總理呢提出質疑他提到誇獎了台灣的 |
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經濟成長率比韓國還要高 除了半導體還有什麼優勢結果他得到的結論是什麼台灣的開票制度 投開票制度呢成為韓國年輕人的嚮往我們只知道台灣的年輕人嚮往韓劇 韓流不曉得韓國年輕人 居然他們會欣賞台灣的投開票制度他怎麼運作的 為什麼會引起海外的激賞呢 我們往下看 |
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其實台灣最有價值的資產 陳如己為先進所說的就是我們的民主制度 就是我們的投票模式你看 就在2024年剛大選完之後 居然這是一個投票有什麼效果呢它可以向外 向國際社會表達民意華爾街日報它就說了 台灣人民不是 它是不希望被你中國干涉同時呢 對內要公正公開 你看連美國的政治家家都對我們台灣開票那影片哇 它覺得好了不起 任何人都可以監督 往下看 |
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那麼台灣的民主產權怎麼投票呢 什麼是民主主權在民 民意施政怎麼申選 透過定期的選舉投票選出的民意代表可以表達我們的民意這需要什麼呢 這個制度需要一個選民的信任跟完善的制度完善的制度成為我們剛剛有三位來自台北市 高雄市跟新竹縣的選務工作人員我跟大家介紹一下我過去在地方政府服務過長達十幾年 |
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我很清楚知道我們地方的選委會副總幹事是最重要的靈魂人物因為他是專職專任其他的總幹事搞不好還是民政處長民政局長兼任的副總幹事最清楚我們所有選舉大大小小每一個環節他們的提醒他們的建議我們要認真的去思考因為他們要運作一個完善的制度人民選民才會信任因此公平透明而且長期的得來不易我們再往下看 |
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那台灣的制度哪裡做得好呢我們先看韓國的制度韓國他可以提前投票而且不再急投票加上他集中開票用電子點票結果呢舞弊陰謀論就四起啊他雖然很方便但是反過來開票的時候耗時長而且常常會被質疑選舉造假 |
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相對的台灣的制度看起來很原始對不對用紙本投票 票鬼取票 檢票唱票看起來就跟算盤一樣好 一個蘿蔔 一個動作 一個口令然後彙整後呢 全程公開選民信任雖然成本比較高 但是在開票耗時短沒有運送檢票的爭議那為什麼台灣要開倒車去破壞現有的制度呢也不完全我們認為不在一起投票就是一種反動他其實想要解決問題要解決什麼問題 我們往下看 |
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其實如果我們要解決一個問題沒有成功反而創造更大的問題你們看一看就在2024年那時候美國大選虛假訊息公眾就有質疑然而在2018年台灣也經歷過公投並大選造成了呢 |
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選舉的過程非常混亂還造成了包括市長的候選人之一提起了選舉訴訟那個直到一年之後才決定所以我們看到在台北市剛剛幾位像新竹縣的選委會的副總幹事台北市的選委會的副總幹事都提到了這些人口密集的地方我們所做的一些變革會不會招來我們想像不到的後果呢一定要慎重不要邊嗨邊投選舉不公往下看 |
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所以如果要便利投票我們看看目前的預算問題是什麼問題是有些人因為部分公民因為職業的屬性他沒有辦法有效率的便利去參與或者說返鄉投票成本高那當然我們看一下目前有不在籍投票或移轉投票的版本當中規範不清選民混亂剛剛幾個人提出的問題幾位選務副總幹事都提到了 |
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包括呢我看到我們的報告當中啊有些這個學者專家認為呢我看有一個大致的取向在現實便利跟恐懼當中我們不能徘徊太久我同意這個引述但是我們要知道選務工作我們移轉投票不是像三眼療癒那麼簡單就把它移轉過去你要想想看我們的選票不是現場輸出的那麼多選票七千多種組合排列 |
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281.483 |
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305.292 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].text |
雖然你可以用這樣的方式去處理但是選務的工作怎麼解決所以呢我們認為目前提前放假交通便利房子這些都是我們可以考慮的最後的結論來兩個台灣投票模式已經累積社會信用任何嘗試要漸進要規劃要審慎推動而且消除投票的障礙不在即不是唯一的解方多元方案都可以納入評估 |
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306.172 |
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314.924 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].text |
包括全國一致性的總統或全國性的公投或許可以先考慮採行但是我們機會的選舉制度不容一下子全面更動 以上 |