| IVOD_ID |
167248 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167248 |
| 日期 |
2026-01-26 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-20-18 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期財政委員會第18次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
18 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期財政委員會第18次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-01-26T11:52:56+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-01-26T12:05:34+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:12:38 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/eb9c45f2fd61881022eba5e1f74f0d8b2e6dd44a39c46b25c95edea359322c403e2c817e391698a95ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
黃珊珊 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:52:56 - 12:05:34 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-01-26T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期財政委員會第18次全體委員會議（事由：邀請行政院主計總處陳主計長淑姿、財政部莊部長翠雲、金融監督管理委員會彭主任委員金隆、中央銀行楊總裁金龍、經濟部龔部長明鑫、農業部陳部長駿季、國家發展委員會葉主任委員俊顯就「針對台美關稅貿易協議內容，對國家整體財經、國內產業與就業、股匯市場與各項民生通膨之影響與因應策略」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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請經貿辦還有經濟部次長以及國發會主委好 請許子密 何次長 高副主委委員好好 三位好我想台灣的談判團隊在美東時間的1月15號有正式有一個MOU國人都非常的關心而且也是對台灣來說我想請問一下三位目前為止覺得這樣的結果滿意嗎 |
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我們的國家滿意嗎 你們滿意嗎 |
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目前來講我們跟產業界都很滿意還可以接受是好因為關稅降為15千不疊加然後半導體還有衍生品232項關稅最優惠待遇但是我們同樣的承諾要付出了2500億的自主投資那剛聽直敏說的這含不含台積電的1500億1000億含還是不含 |
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我在這邊只能在這邊回答就是說包含計劃中的投資包含台灣企業計劃包含台灣企業計劃中的投資所以包含台積電的一千億嗎包含還是不包含有這麼難嗎 |
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計劃中的台積電的1000億算在裡面就對了如果您是指這一塊的話我們有聽到美國商務部的發言是包含的好 這2500億所以你大概已經有1000億了那另外1500億的Code我們有被限制在多久時間內要完成嗎 |
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包委沒有沒有所以沒有一定要在一年兩年之內完成所以你現在的時間還有然後投資也都找得到不會有所謂做不到的狀況吧跟委員報告這個應該是企業自主投資所以企業一定是看到能夠賺錢的機會但我們要鼓勵對我們要鼓勵然後第二個今天這是一個MOU如果中華民國政府沒有做到會不會影響到我們的關稅談判的結果會吧 |
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因為沒有壓時間但是我們會有一些相關的他畢竟是個條件他不可能說你做不到還是繼續維持原意嘛人家也會盯著你看這是第一點所以我們一定要在我們可控的範圍之內完成這樣的任務而不是只是單純說我答應然後沒有時間所以我就耍賴我想這個也不是大家可以大家要這樣看到的另外一個是我們看到的是 |
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美国也要投资台湾对吗是看到他们说双向投资机制可是我们从美国商务部公告的相关的fact sheet就是事实清单里面好像没有看到相关的细节跟项目甚至没有看到金额市长现在有内容了吗美国对台湾投资有内容了吗 |
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像委员报告就是说有关于美国要对台湾投资这个事情确实是在投资MOU里面有载明的那里面有提到有像这样2500亿这么具体的金额跟项目吗金额的部分没有明确的说明所以有没有金额项目跟时间然后也有包括就是说他们会通透过相关的机制来支持你现在在这边回答的是立法委员的咨询我希望你清楚的回答我有没有项目范围跟金额跟时间 |
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没有有产业然后没有提到金额所以产业什么产业五大信赖产业以及生物科技产业五大信赖产业生物科技产业一样的同样你这个案子MOU将来也要送到国会来追认是吗 |
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我們會依...依據條例締結法的程序...所以你還是要回答我們有關項目範圍金額我可以同意這是在談判之間必須需要跟美方溝通的但是一樣我們如果被要求的這麼具體2500億項目範圍金額同樣的美國對台的投資也應該續名項目範圍金額這是你們的任務不是嗎為什麼沒有要求具體的項目範圍跟金額呢 |
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有關於投資的談判還是他們不願意提供他們多少錢不講項目知道 金額不說 時間沒有如果我們看到日本跟韓國跟美國的談判裡面的話事實上是只有單項所以就是說美國要求 |
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我們在跟美國的談判裡面有要求到雙向對我們的承諾也沒有具體所以這個可能是經貿辦或者是我們行政院還是要去努力完成在MOU確認項目金額跟範圍我想這個對國人才有辦法交代 |
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當然我知道不好談接下來是說經濟部是說對美投資本來就是台灣的企業海外投資的一部分只是把台灣本來要投資在台灣那會不會排擠到台灣企業對台灣的投資 |
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根文報告 事實上是不會的因為其實這個企業不至於影響企業本來就要全球布局其實是因為有台積電這樣的一個投資他會把相關的這些產業鏈帶過去所以不會排擠到台灣原有的投資 |
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我們不希望影響台灣其他的產業投資的動能另外就是鄭麗君副院長是說美國是希望晶片的自給率要有一定的比例但是不是由台灣獨立完成這個自給率也就是日本韓國還有其他業者都是美國 |
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晶片自給率的成員也就是說我們即使是去美國投資了我們還是要跟日本韓國跟其他的相關的產業做同樣的競爭對吧 |
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沒錯也就是說我們現在要做的是我們是不是更應該去積極甚至我們要爭取所謂的市佔率還有產品規格跟技術的制定這個可能是台灣在下一步投資了以後我們不要再變成邊緣人或者是又變成只是代工者我想這個即使要投資在那邊也是要跟日本韓國競爭 |
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所以這兩塊可能是經濟部下一步要告訴我們很清楚的是不是只有去投資去投資完之後還要穩定我們的市佔率台灣今天有談判的這個條件就是因為我們有非常強的企業跟市佔率所以跟我們報告其實我們今年推的AI新十大建設裡面對未來半導體發展的矽光子的技術就是要確保我們台積電未來在半導體會有領先的地位確保台積電去了投資不會不至於因為美國把全世界都拉過去之後然後我們反而 |
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陷入了劣勢這是第二個第三個部分就是我們現在這個moment還沒有生效請問什麼時候會生效這個時間還沒生效 |
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要在簽署台美對等貿易協定之後簽字完成生效雙方各自完成內部程序之後以現在這個時間點還要你剛剛說數週大概是幾週2月底之前可不可能簽生效剛剛有報告過就是現在雙方團隊都非常的努力我們希望能夠盡快2月底之前希望能夠簽署生效 |
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有關時間點的話我們目前還是數週我相信這個對台灣現在這個moment我們還是20加N對吧沒錯現在還是這樣所以啊越快越好不是嗎15%跟20%還是差很多再加一個N就差更多另外一塊是有關 |
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你們在報告裡面很清楚的談判是我們對於美國進口的關稅要調降但是沒有細節要談好之後再對我們報告請問現在針對關稅調降的部分已經有具體的項目了嗎 |
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向委員報告因為現在雙方還在做項目的核對的當中這裡面包括汽車農產品大家現在都在猜測第二個是非關稅障礙非關稅貿易障礙之前美方對於我們的要求是針對很多的食品安全還有甚至勞工權益 |
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這兩塊都是他們要求很久但我們一直沒有答應的事情現在這兩塊都會可能成為你們談判的籌碼跟條件我們會堅持原來的立場還是我們會在這中間有大幅度的開放 |
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像委員報告就是兩件事情第一個事情就是說什麼時候會公開那是要簽署之後會公開第二件事情就是我們談判的原則就是國家利益產業利益國民健康糧食安全就算是要爭取到關稅降低但是不可以犧牲食品安全國人安全甚至是勞工權益我想這個是最基本的原則 |
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另外一個就是看到你們有說支持在WTO架構下免徵電子相關專稅可是我們看到最近美國說他要退出WTO你們這些報告還有用嗎 |
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像委員報告美國最近是說他要退出WHO那WTO的部分他之前是拖欠匯費後來他已經開始繳匯費了將來在WTO的架構之下我們台灣還是要維持我們國家的自主性不能因為要談判這個關稅喪權辱國別人有什麼我們就該有什麼 |
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日本韓國該怎麼樣就該怎麼樣我覺得這個是最基本台灣不能因為我們可能在軍事方面要靠美國而在貿易方面做不應該有的讓步好時間暫停我想最後請金管會主委三位請回時間暫停一下 |
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不好意思 再給我一分鐘就好所以我想最重要的是現在股票已經上三萬點了那民眾很多都在年輕人其實都開始有投資跟理財的觀念那我們一直在討論就是我們現在的股票還是一千股一千股做一個單位一張 |
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那在全世界甚至美股現在其實都可以買到一股可是我們知道相關的金管會的對於這些交易的很消極從來不做相關的檢討主委是不是應該檢討一下像日本現在的部分是100股然後我們現在很多大的股份股票都拆分了其實就是讓一般人的門檻能夠降低 |
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那但是他們會有個價差因為你用撮合的方式會有跟事實上交易的價差還是有一段的距離所以主委我相信你也很想做一些改革這個部分是不是應該做一些檢討甚至有一個逐步的接近然後讓台灣的股票市場可以更貼近國際的趨勢 |
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跟委員說明其實有關其實我們資本市場有非常非常多議題我們都有持續的在檢討中一千股很久了可以調整了針對零股交易也有做強化我想這部分剛剛委員提到其實不只這個議題我們很多議題都在研究中 |
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692.308 |
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710.966 |
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所以我希望零股交易这个部分有做了但是我刚刚讲它还是有一定的价差如果有价差它的确是不是非常的公平它等于说两个价格但是你如果有一股一股交易的话现在我们台湾已经开放买美股了所以其实很多民众都转向直接去买美股因为可以买到一股两股 |
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711.767 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
740.675 |
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那跟台灣一次要買一千股如果像台積電的金額這樣的話其實一般民眾根本就買不到那現在大家可能去買ETF可是可能還是受到很多大盤的波動但他可能不能只選擇他喜歡的股份我是認為說一千股已經行之多年了日本現在一百股我們可以考慮甚至可以考慮到美股降低年輕人購買股票的這些門檻我想主委是不是也可以進一步的檢討然後往這個方向走 |
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742.391 |
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755.67 |
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其實這些都是我們在日常檢討真的需要做我們就會來處理好 謝謝主委好 謝謝黃珊珊委員主委請回我們接下來請王世堅委員質詢 |