| IVOD_ID |
167228 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167228 |
| 日期 |
2026-01-26 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-20-18 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期財政委員會第18次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
18 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期財政委員會第18次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-01-26T09:34:56+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-01-26T09:48:53+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:13:57 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/eb9c45f2fd61881029b5fac24a0426b82e6dd44a39c46b254a86d8c93a01be21f6611687e07821165ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
林德福 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:34:56 - 09:48:53 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-01-26T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期財政委員會第18次全體委員會議（事由：邀請行政院主計總處陳主計長淑姿、財政部莊部長翠雲、金融監督管理委員會彭主任委員金隆、中央銀行楊總裁金龍、經濟部龔部長明鑫、農業部陳部長駿季、國家發展委員會葉主任委員俊顯就「針對台美關稅貿易協議內容，對國家整體財經、國內產業與就業、股匯市場與各項民生通膨之影響與因應策略」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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議會各列席官員還有各位媒體記者 女士先生 各位同仁是不是請我們中央銀行楊總裁請楊總裁 |
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總裁你好我請教因為美國宣布對台灣關稅降至15%那台灣承諾由企業自主投資2500億的美元那政府信用保證2500億元換取對等關稅有20%進一步降至15%並且不疊加稅率取得日韓歐盟相同的最 |
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惠國的待遇那總裁當行政院對這次關稅協議談判結果表示滿意的同時那我請問你認為是不是有哪些產業例如像國內的汽車產業可能因為這次關稅談判造成市場開放 |
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而發生負面的衝擊影響對於這些可能因為市場開放受程度不等的這些衝擊的產業政府到底有哪些因應的對策那個總裁你的看法呢報告委員這個題目應該是要來請教因為我說實在那個經濟部經貿辦公室是是是 |
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最起碼你們要說清楚講明白那個停一下他那個經貿辦公室沒有人來有執密那個 執密來市長或者那個經貿辦公室的代表還有經濟部來你們要說清楚講明白 |
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好跟委員報告那這一次因應這個美國頓等關稅我們在立法院的支持下我們經濟部也編列了460億元的這個任期特別預算來協助我們產業因應這一次美國關稅那大概有分成幾項幾項措施包括貸款還有 |
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出國的加碼保證還有轉型升級的補助以及市場拓銷的補助大概就這四項我們來因應讓這些傳統產業它能夠來做因應因為現在最嚴重就是什麼因為你經過這九個多月那你包括我們的很多傳統產業包括工具機 水五金 腳踏車 蝴蝶籃等等 |
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因為有很多的客戶已經流失了經過這九個多月因為日本韓國跟我們不一樣又是我們鄰近的國家那這些衝擊啊到底我們他們到底可不可以回復因為已經移轉客戶了你就是回復百分之十五不疊加人家不一定會要你的東西 |
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你有什么看法根文报告上个礼拜五卓院长也到台南去跟汽车零组件的业者来座谈其中有一家业者他是专门做汽车改装件的零组件一听到就说我们的关税已经谈成书不叠加他们的董事长马上飞到美国去接单所以这代表说我们这样的一个谈判其实对订单的回流是有帮助的那个去接单问题是 |
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你像那些傳統產業包括汽車到底汽車有沒有確定在這個裡面 |
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这个零组件的部分我们现在争取到的是15%不叠加那相较于我们的其他竞争对手国来讲我们有相当大的这个税率的优惠我们原先的税率是汽车零组件是26.25%现在一下子降到15%跟欧盟日本跟韩国的这样的一个基础 |
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是一樣的所以這個就剛我提到就為什麼那個董事長急於這個跑到美國再去這個跟客戶洽談這個訂單就是因為稅率大幅降低有利於我們這樣的一個條件那以前報導那個阿拉斯加那個液化天然氣管線需要耗資440億的美元 |
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這個美國川普總統也希望日本韓國跟台灣一起來參與那我請問依你們的看法因為畢竟中油是你們管的這個阿拉斯加天然氣這個傳言到底是在規劃中還是有沒有在這一次整個承諾裡面來扣除到底有沒有要說清楚講明白跟委員報告這個其實中油已經跟這個阿拉斯加那家公司已經有簽了一個 |
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簽了這個有沒有從裡面購出嘛你總不能一直加上去啊當然我們是希望就是說未來這個整個油氣的供應要能夠穩定啦所以我們希望從這個美國的這個阿拉斯加那一條航道是相對來講是比較安全的 |
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問題是不要賠熱婦人又責兵這個裡面你不要說我們跟他這次談沒有把這個納進去那個對我們來講講實在話那個實在不應該啦對不對你不能我們身為國會的議員民意代表就是幫人民來勘請政府的荷包不是讓你們為所欲為但是這次這樣簽法以後講實在話很多民間大家都在講 |
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講的你是陪了夫人又責兵因為我們跟人家的軍具體那個一比較落差太大了 |
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對不對我相信你們也很清楚是跟我們報告其實中友其實他們還在評估當中也就是說如果這個投資具可行性的話我想後面還是會有 |
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我們為什麼什麼都要聽人家的對不對我們要有自主性啊你像那個韓國日本甚至於現在歐洲對這個川普很多作為啊他們都不能接受對不對不是人家講於我們作善人家對不對講什麼我們就配合什麼那個講實在話你們身為政府的官員應該要有原則有尊嚴啊 |
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我們會跟美方那邊來爭取如果真的有做成投資投資這樣的一個決定的話那絕對會是加到我們的投資的額度裡面來我是希望說你們要站在人民的角度不是人家講什麼我們什麼都配合我請國發會國發會也來列舉我們高副主委 |
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那個總裁請回吧在 |
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國發會這個關稅協議中的2500億信用保證是由國發會主責針對這項的信用保證這個信保的機制國發會提出4點來規劃說明整個融資總額度保證對象專款來源以出資方式打算由國發基金來出資並邀請公股民營銀行來共同參與 那我請問 |
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主委 那個國發會要如何來契合這些到海外投資的產業要如何 |
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跟委員報告所有申請的企業都必須要跟融資保證中心來提供他所有申請企業的相關資料我們也會設置一個融資保證的委員會到時候融資保證基金合約相關的文件之後都會送到融資保證委員會來進行融資保證的評估 |
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所以我們會確保我們整個的將來的對銀行對企業的受信其實我們有一套的所謂的減核的這些行政的程序因為那個對比經濟部中小企業信用這個信保基金的組織執掌本席對於國發會是否有足夠的能力來控管海外融資的這些投資過程與結果 |
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講實在話本席是感到存疑啦再者海外投資後續如果發生個案的追長對於信用保證下的這個債權查封執行會不會因為時空差距而發生追長無門的結果會不會不會我們會有一我們會有一套審核的機制剛才已經有跟委員報告過 |
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因為畢竟國發基金過去執行率並不好尤其有有甚者還頻頻踩雷那我請問跟委員報告我們到時候要成立一個國家融資保證中心其實我們國發基金只是擔任出資方 |
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目前國家如果要依照現行的國家融資保證機制的話國家融資保證中心的執行單位是輸出入銀行因為國外基金優化投錢投後管理的做法會不會落實在這些海外 |
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投資的產業上實際上要怎麼樣去操作海外的集合我認為這個很重要那個你也來做一個說明我想謝謝委員的提醒那我想因為我們不管是國家融資保證基金做融資保證委員會這相關的機制的話我們都一定會在後續研擬的過程中間我們會審慎的處理包括委員講的投錢 |
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投前的評估投中投後等等的相關的審查信用這些保證對象的一些信用的徵信我們都會審慎的處理請委員放心在面對美國要求台灣付出如此龐大的投資金額相當於15兆台幣 |
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645.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
672.935 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].text |
五年中央政府的總預算規模台灣半導體產業與相關上下游的這些供應鏈將大量資金移往美國未來可能會排擠整個台灣產地這個產業的升級資源對美國投資大幅增加對台灣投資大幅度的減少將不利整個台灣未來的發展那我國政府 |
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673.855 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
691.933 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
包括你們談判代表卻沒有告訴大家美國的要求完成投資期限在何時這個讓大家也十分憂心因為你沒有實現的那請我們經濟部包括經貿辦公室你們要做跟大家做說明 |
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692.642 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
710.522 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].text |
好 各位委員報告其實200億美金的這個是企業的自主投資而且是應客戶的要求也會分年逐步的推動那其實我想我們知道說其實以台積電來說現在已經成為全球第六大的企業了 |
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711.042 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
727.217 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].text |
那他是面對AI的基礎建設強勁需求他其實一定要做全球佈局那目前我們75%的營收台積電來自於北美客戶所以他在美國設廠其實應該是某個程度上也可以紓解台灣資源難以支應的這些困擾而且我們這次是雙向投資所以到時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].start |
734.543 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].end |
745.646 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].text |
美國其實也會來投資台灣的AI還有這些半導體還有五大信賴產業所以我們認為其實用動態的觀點來看其實我們覺得200億美元對企業的自主投資其實反而有助於台美所謂戰略夥伴關係的鞏固其實應該不會對台灣所謂產生對台灣的投資其實有減損的這些效應然後另外的200億的 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].start |
764.492 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
789.988 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].text |
2500億的信用保證額度跟前面那個是完全不一樣的這只是我們用信用保證的方式支持金融機構提供最高到2500億的企業授信額度所以我們政府提出的包括我們國發基金跟公營跟民營企業我們提出的所謂的保證專款最多我想副院長有講到是62.5億到100億之間 |
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792.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].end |
807.888 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].text |
好啦我希望最重要就是我們身為民意代表國會議員就是要幫人民勘請荷包你們那個大原則一定要保住不是人家講義你們作善現在民眾的感覺就這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].start |
808.789 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].end |
829.323 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].text |
對不對 為所欲為那你沒有把人民放在眼裡沒有把 我們是希望說經濟好起來兩岸和平你不是人家講什麼我們就去配合什麼我們一定會確保台灣的競爭優勢那台灣在全球供應鏈的重要的角色請委員放心好 謝謝好 謝謝林德福委員接下來請吳秉瑞委員質詢 |