| IVOD_ID |
167227 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167227 |
| 日期 |
2026-01-26 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-35-28 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
28 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
35 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
外交及國防委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期外交及國防委員會第28次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-01-26T09:32:30+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-01-26T09:43:55+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:25 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/eb9c45f2fd6188102c051b978394ec0c784d0199fe87f28a4a86d8c93a01be21332e030545e112f65ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳永康 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:32:30 - 09:43:55 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-01-26T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期外交及國防委員會第28次全體委員會議（事由：邀請國防部部長顧立雄報告「我國武器採購策略暨國防預算(公務、基金暨特別預算)編列結構之適切性」，併請經濟部、國家發展委員會、國家科學及技術委員會列席，並備質詢。） |
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是 陈伟好部长您好刚才听取了报告我特别今天借这个机会回应您刚才讲的上周美国发布了它的国防战略那么是根据国家安全战略的上层指导美国在2017年就把四年期国防总检讨把它废止了然后每四年公布一次 |
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美国的国家防卫战略然后后面再有军事战略请教部长我们有没有办法要想修正我们的QDR因为这里面的内容主轴是有落差的那我们现在看了美国的这个国家安全战略那美国的国防战略后面还有军事战略出来那以战规师的角度我们会不会要跟美国做同步的修正这个概念 |
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鮑遠我們相關的整個戰略規劃的部分事實上都一直在做整體的檢討跟考量那主要的部分我們就目前敵情威脅陡峰的狀況下我們是針對我們的防衛作戰構想跟上層次的軍事戰略上面去做檢討至於全班性的國防戰略的這個部分後面我們還是會依據我們整個戰略規劃的腳步來做一定程度的檢討 |
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我提个建议就是我们去年出版的QDR比较上一个版本从48页进步到59页那谈国防战略军事战略从1.5页进步到4页这是有进步的那去年出的国防报告书 |
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这个白皮书那么谈到国防战略跟军事战略从4页增加到6页有精进但是呢如果对应美国的这个国防战略的话我们面对这个重大的挑战这个内容啊我觉得还是要强化那么现在回到今天的主题就是谈到了这个 |
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我们面对的挑战这是越来越严重因此的经费增加是所必然在刚才的过程中间前面的委员提到了就是说freedom is not free |
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所以英文不能只講前句後面還有它的但書同樣就是說我們在軍事採購的過程中間也有很多的 |
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想定跟立案条件那我们谈到无人机无人机是未来作战的一个趋势这是非常重要的那在报告里面也列选了不管是从国外进口的这个军售的乃至于商售合作在国内生产20余万架无人机我相信在陆军的使用可能会超过一半陆军参谋长是 |
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這個前面的這個論述我們完全是支持國防部的想法那陸軍是在2026年前7月要編成了這個大隊了但是實際上這種輕型的不管是徵收的或是攻擊型或者消耗式的無人機陸軍應該有佔到20萬架的一半以上吧江進 |
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也是说这个状况下人员的训练的年度这个训练的原额额度还要强化要增加我们可以看一个就是说乌克兰这个俄乌战争中间他们的无人机消耗 |
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每天2000架但是光在乌冬的战场就是台湾的两倍半的面积那我们的无人机的作业运用构想应该是在探案防卫第一线这个是消耗性是很大的因此你在无人机的储存库储料配件还有它的这个所谓的通讯频道在前面的预制规划先要跟不只是 |
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我们军用的频道那很多的民谣频道啊先要做沟通因为这个时候平时跟暂时他是不用的不一样的如果你觉得我们的wifi平时可用暂时不一定可靠那另外呢这个乌克兰的无人机啊确实发挥了很大的效益可是如果没有 |
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这个新链也就是说Starlink去support它的无人机的功效都没有办法发挥那我们因为目前还没有这个新链的这个合约当然在这个所谓这个Amazon未来的这个Blue Origin里面可能会有4508个卫星那我们能不能合作 |
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得到平宽这个未来是要共同努力所以无人机的消耗它是一个必然的但是年度人员的训练跟料配件的储存跟你的库房整建我觉得陆军在这个方面请强化您回答一下 |
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包委員 我就幾個面向向您報告第一個 也有人質疑說在這個在需求上面這麼數量這麼高的無人機我們這全軍的編制還不及這個數量怎麼可能會操作那我在這邊說明一下這個數量的計算它包含到我們平常的訓練的需求還有所謂的戰備存量 |
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而且他最主要也考慮到了無人機的迭代他並不是一次的獲得這裡面除了硬體的需求軟體的更新還有他相關的通聯都必須要有擴充性所以在這個方面是有納入規劃的那第二個部分有關於整個無人機的庫儲那他包含到 |
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彈庫或是所謂的特定軍品庫房還有包含到庫房的整建修建在我們的整個規劃裡面都也有同步的納入規劃最後一點像委員報告就是說有關於無人機的頻率那我們在軍用無人機上面是屬於專屬的頻道那另外我們現在也在針對整個頻譜管理制定相關的單位來負責以上報告 |
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是那后面我特别用这张图提供您参考我们讲要去掉非红这个供应链那这里面还有几项通讯晶片这个非控软体含AI热像仪GPS的晶片非控晶片雷射测距这个部分中科院会跟国内产业甚至跟国外做合作因为这有一部分并不是在国内生产的院长您这边在这个地方强化解释一下 |
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剛好今天有經濟部的官員出席我們這幾年從經濟部的無人機統籌型預算裡面獲得不少研發的經費這些經費不是只有我們自己在研究是跟國內的業者共同在開發研究這些晶片大概都已經到了相當成熟的程度只是後面的製程安排要必須要由我們的國內的生產廠商他願意把他的產線讓給我們來做製程的安排 |
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这个要国内就是产业企业国防总监我们大家共同努力我们最后一个图片特别讲就是讲到台湾之盾实际上我们因为不同层级的sensor征收器 |
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那么还有不同的载台平台武器发射那要透过一个完整的网络架构链路那包括多轨追踪情资融合链路整合要产生一个复合同向也就是共同的图像这是一个组合起来涵盖台湾的周遭实际上我们的雷达sensor可能有几十座上百座有固定的有机动的那么目前IBCS的概念也导入进来了 |
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可是呢因为我们在太空方面的能力是比较薄弱所以要靠美国的协助这个DSP卫星预警配合我们长程预警雷达产生的这个网路架构那我上次也跟大家讲过了去中心化不是目标只是你的方法手段可是现在呢已经强调了我们要建立啊 |
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叫什么联合火力协调中心那这个火协中心的目的就是C5ISR加T因为对于固定目标的反制像海马斯是陆上目标你有坐标可是对于机动目标的critical timing那就必须要很短的时间做协调因此这个步骤我们看到跟美方合作成立这个构想这是很好的 |
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那么国军这个持恒强化战力也在逐步往前推这里面有一个关键的我们一直在讲不对称战力不对称战力里面有一项就是人才的培养 |
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因为你的硬体装备啊,包括DP受训啊,我们这个都了解这个重要性,可是后续的原额跟经费啊,这个要大幅的提支,你比方讲我们原来买的这个海马斯M142,原来是28加1,现在再买82,就已经111套了,那它的目标的分配啊,跟鱼叉这个火鞋中间,就是产生了一个,这很重要,那不同的装备,不同的界面,问题呢,有,但是要克服,要解决, |
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所以在人才培养上面也就是说从各学校的这个宾科学校专业教育到联合子餐教育的准则教范这一定要赶快我想国防大学这个陆院的这个UTM坐标图纸图那个该精进了吧现在演习还是把纸图拼起来的那你将来怎么样学校毕业的人去配合我们新装备呢这个国防大学您做个简短回答 |
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跟委員報告現在我們這個各子彈學院現在都有把這些相關的新興的武器啊都已經納入課程裡面了然後有相關那個剛才講到那個UTM座標啊還有那個相關那個共同圖像也都納入課程裡面然後現在那個那個最新的圖資啊我們都有配合我們國防部情事室那邊都有做一個申請申請跟更新然後後續啊所有的硬體硬體跟軟體啊設備啊我們都會有一個期程來做一個相應的一個一個規劃跟 |
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跟他更換心 |
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我想裝備的獲得籌貨很重要持續後面的維保也重要但操作人員更重要在這個部分我覺得要大家共同努力部長您請做一個簡短回應我想剛剛委員的指教都很正確那有一些相關的一些事項我想我們必須要私下跟委員再做說明但是剛剛委員提到人員的培訓的部分當然是裡面非常非常重要的一塊是以上謝謝大家共同努力 |