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IVOD_ID 167204
IVOD_URL https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167204
日期 2026-01-21
影片種類 Clip
開始時間 2026-01-21T10:20:14+08:00
結束時間 2026-01-21T10:30:33+08:00
影片長度 00:10:19
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委員名稱 沈伯洋
委員發言時間 10:20:14 - 10:30:33
會議時間 2026-01-21T09:00:00+08:00
會議名稱 第11屆第4會期第3次全院委員會(事由:審查委員傅崐萁等60人及委員黃國昌等59人分別對賴清德總統提出彈劾案。)
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transcript.whisperx[0].text 主席 各位同仁 還有全體國人同胞
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transcript.whisperx[1].text 那今天呢我站在這裡其實是一個非常沉痛的心情因為我們今天討論的並不是一個普通的彈劾案而是立法院現在正試圖用這種彈劾總統這樣的一個程序要去撕毀憲法整個對權力分立的一個分界
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transcript.whisperx[2].text 我們必須要看清楚現實就現在立法院到底發生什麼事情現在立法院是要變成一個超級機關也就是我們說的超級立法院什麼事情都是立法院說了算大家如果還記得在2024年的時候立法院當時是想要甚至叫私人企業能夠直接叫過來立法院問話也就是立法委員要自己當檢察官
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transcript.whisperx[3].text 後來到了2025年的時候他們完全的廢掉了這個憲法法庭的運作所以也就是立法院凌駕了憲法法庭也就是什麼事情就是立法院說了算到近期之內更誇張的是本來軍購是國防部在做現在變成立法委員自己飛去美國說我要來做軍購那請問我們要行政權到底要做什麼
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transcript.whisperx[4].text 我們一直以來都忽略了一個重要的事實這也是藍白一直不肯面對的就是總統跟立法院都有同樣的民意基礎總統跟立法院都是人民一票一票選出來的憲法法庭的判決在前年講得非常的清楚總統跟立法院沒有什麼從屬關係兩邊都是民意的代表沒有說什麼誰大誰小的問題
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transcript.whisperx[5].text 而今天立法院要做的事情就是要毀壞這個默契要把行政院壓在地上摩擦要把監察院幹掉要把自己變檢察官自己變大法官自己變國防部一切的一切都是變成立法院說了算
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transcript.whisperx[6].text 所以才会到今天呢去提出这样的一个弹劾制度而弹劾呢他做出来的意思就是他想要把今天现在的立法院变成一个法庭他要叫总统来这边受审的意思你说这个听起来好像不太对啊弹劾怎么会变成受审大家要知道在我国宪政体制的设计里面弹劾是属于法律的责任罢免是政治的责任
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transcript.whisperx[7].text 在前年開始有很多的民眾看不慣藍白的立法委員在做這種擴權的事情要所謂把立法院變成太上皇的事情這個人民感到不滿而人民感到不滿但不是認為你違法所以人民發動了罷免所以罷免才是真正的一個政治責任的展現如果今天呢要面對新的民意那就是應該用選票來面對新的民意才對
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transcript.whisperx[8].text 彈劾是在法律責任的時候才需要用的制度那我們來看一看今天藍白提出這樣的一個彈劾案他提出了一個什麼樣的法律的見解說現在要把總統帶來這邊受審還用什麼國情報告當理由告訴大家國情報告跟叫總統來立法院直接接受藍白立法院的審判這完全是兩件事情這怎麼會是國情報告呢而現在他們提出的理由我來告訴大家
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transcript.whisperx[9].text 他們提出來的第一個理由是為什麼台積電最近表現那麼好台積電表現得好所以要叫總統來這邊受審
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transcript.whisperx[10].text 因為台積電現在全世界佈局在全世界投資結果股票一直往上漲藍白看不下去啊因為藍白不要台灣好啊現在對他們來講任何對台灣好的事情那就是對他們不利的事情所以台積電表現太好了完蛋了趕快叫總統來這邊問話台積電不能夠表現那麼好再來是關稅
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transcript.whisperx[11].text 關稅這一年多來 執政團隊做了多少的努力為了保護我們辛苦的國民為了保護我們的傳產現在立法院不滿意了 為什麼立法院覺得說 欸 關稅談得好欸他的顏面往哪裡擺啊因為他們認為立法院最大啊什麼事情都應該是傅坤祺跟黃國昌去談才對啊怎麼會是我們的鄭麗君跟楊真理去談呢所以呢 完了 表現得那麼好 不可以所以呢 請總統叫過來問話
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transcript.whisperx[12].text 最後的最後他們除了擴權之外最重要的是藍白的立法委員在癱瘓我們的財政直接從中央挖掉3000億再把錢直接拿去給特定族群一直到現在總預算有98%形同被他們刪掉他們想要癱瘓這個國家的財政
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transcript.whisperx[13].text 結果呢在癱瘓這一個國家的財政的時候我們的行政院做什麼事我們的行政院說你不給我錢我要怎麼執政所以呢用一個不附屬的方式想要來抵抗立法院的爛拳立法院生氣了立法院認為說我在霸凌你行政院你竟然敢反抗你這個行政院是不是獨裁啊
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transcript.whisperx[14].text 我要霸凌你行政院你就乖乖在那邊給我霸凌你怎麼可以反抗所以叫什麼叫總統來這邊受審
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transcript.whisperx[15].text 這就是他們現在提出來的彈劾理由啊彈劾理由剛剛前面黃國昌跟傅坤熙說明的彈劾理由就是長這個樣子啊我再講一次他們講的是什麼他們講的就是你台積電表現得太好了不可以來這邊給我問話你關稅談得好不行來這邊給我問話你今天呢我要貪換你的財政你竟然還敢反抗過來給我問話這是哪門子的民主啊這是哪門子的憲政制度啊
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transcript.whisperx[16].text 所以我要告訴大家以現在的這樣的一個局勢立法委員明明有自己的工作要做比如說現在是預算會期預算會期應該做的事情不是審預算嗎預算從去年8月躺到現在經過了146天了審都不審立法委員自己的工作不做
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transcript.whisperx[17].text 所以我想說那奇怪了那現在國民黨立法委員來這邊做什麼原來他們還有一些壞事要做他們要讓紅媒直接回歸要讓救國團婦聯會直接回來要把特定的利益輸送給特定族群這些法案現在都躺在立法院要等著三讀他們在忙這些事情然後順便再用這個坦克漢來做一個政治的表演然後用政治的表演去散播謠言告訴大家講說這個國家現在
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transcript.whisperx[18].text 正確的道路前進我們立法院看不下去所以要做這個彈劾案所以呢在這邊請大家一定要記得我們今天呢台灣之所以能夠站在這裡是經歷過很多崎嶇的道路台灣每一次的民眾站出來會抗議都是因為國會的濫權野百合為什麼那麼多人站出來國大的事情啊
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transcript.whisperx[19].text 太陽花為什麼國會被佔領因為立法院三分鐘就想要通過服貿協定為什麼2024年會有青鳥的行動因為國會濫權每一次每一次的群眾站出來才會有現在的台灣大家仔細想一想2024年如果沒有那麼多人站出來2025年如果沒有民眾站出來台積電是現在會每天被叫過來立法院問話
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transcript.whisperx[20].text 台積電有辦法在做全美 不是全美 全世界的投資嗎有辦法在佈局全球嗎我們的關稅有辦法談到現在這個程度嗎台灣就不會走到這一步了所以拜託大家所有我們對於權力的對抗其實都是記憶跟遺忘之間的對抗但我相信台灣人民是不會忘記這些歷史的台灣人民不會忘記過往在威權時代所發生的事情
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transcript.whisperx[21].text 不會忘記這一些行囚所有的道具也不會忘記任何鞭打在我們身上的鞭子也不會忘記有設在我們身上的水柱這些事情其實是深刻在台灣人的DNA你們認為你們有60%的民意你們認為現在可以毀憲亂政你們認為現在可以濫用你們手上的權利我告訴你 人民一定會記得這件事情
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transcript.whisperx[22].text 人民一定會把這件事情反映在選票上面如果對於行政院長對於你們霸凌的抵抗不滿意如果你們認為現在就擁有最廣大你們號稱的60%的民意那為什麼不用最正當的一個政治的責任叫做倒閣呢你們一倒閣我們就可以進行解散國會不是嗎
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transcript.whisperx[23].text 雖然我們的憲政體制設計的不夠完整但至少解散國會這個選項只要你們倒閣就有辦法發動那為什麼不可面對最新的民意其實理由很簡單因為你們都知道人民早就察覺到了富坤崎剛剛在這邊講了那麼多花蓮的人民現在知不知道原來那麼多的建設都是你富坤崎在擋原來真正你募了那麼多款中央給了那麼多錢根本都沒有到災民的口袋
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transcript.whisperx[24].text 所以請大家不要忘記台灣的歷史也不要忘記這幾年所發生的事情我們台灣的民主是人民的民主絕對不是國民黨的民主也不是民眾黨的民主謝謝大家