| IVOD_ID |
167189 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167189 |
| 日期 |
2026-01-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-15-21 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第21次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
21 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第21次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-01-19T13:04:40+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-01-19T13:31:36+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:26:56 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/4ba512932926f85193d599e101f11b7275d69df13e4e8eda37d2db32b336acc6f6611687e07821165ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe |
| 委員發言時間 |
13:04:40 - 13:31:36 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-01-19T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期內政委員會第21次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請原住民族委員會主任委員率同所屬及財團法人原住民族文化事業基金會董事長與財團法人原住民族語言研究發展基金會董事長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。二、邀請內政部部長就「賴清德總統興建13萬戶社會住宅政策無法落實之檢討」進行專題報告並備質詢。） |
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謝謝主席 有請原民會主委請正置位 |
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今天終於等到圓明會的業務報告我也很驚訝就是這麼長的一段時間一直沒有看到圓明會來做業務報告那每一次圓明會來做業務報告的時候因為機會很難得所以我大概都會找十個議題來質詢那今天也不例外因為時間的關係也希望主委就是簡單的回答好嗎 |
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好 談到原民會我覺得其中有一個很重要的任務功能就是要展現原住民文化的軟實力這也是我們國家的軟實力那我們常常聽人家說或自己說原住民的文化有多好多好 |
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但是我們往往看不到對等的相稱的聲量這個是我們很遺憾的部分所以呢我先就世界原住民族運動會來說你看看這個圖片這個照片都不是我拍的是我call你們園民會的照片這個照片其實好多人看都覺得哇怎麼有這麼棒的運動會請教主委 |
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世界民族運動會你們辦完了之後有沒有開過檢討會有那檢討會可以給我一份報告嗎會會會那我跟您說我重整一下我自己的臉書或者是其他的社群軟體齁我大概聽到的都是第一為什麼總統沒有來請問下一次還會辦嗎 |
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我們希望能夠兩年辦一次兩年辦一次那就是116年對那總統會來嗎我們希望總統我們特別的空總統的時間 |
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第二個我聽到最多的就是說你們的宣傳很不夠好多人看到影片照片之後都嚇一跳說怎麼有這麼好的活動我們怎麼都不知道不是只有原住民這麼說連非原住民都這麼說所以請教一下這個宣傳經費多少 |
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大概是400萬400萬的宣傳經費那為什麼會搞得這麼多人都不知道因為這是第一次辦理所以我們總是有一些就是這個速度上沒有跟上這個部分我想我們會作為日後辦這個活動的檢討 |
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那我就想知道了齁可是你剛剛已經有講了你說這個會延續性辦理是說兩年會辦一次是那請教一下會有這個科目嗎像明年要辦的話今年你們有列入科目要做預算了嗎明年度的預算我們會希望能夠把它就是說編列進去經費規模 |
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大概也就是跟今年的這個世界人民運動會大概是8000到8500萬那請教一下今年大家都說原來這筆經費是從原文會出來但是你們也有原語會甚至你們還有文化發展中心那你們覺得你們這三個單位未來是輪流辦嗎還是由原民會主辦嗎還是怎麼樣 |
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我跟委員報告這麼大的活動而且是就是說要動用這麼多的人力我想當然是園民會主辦我們不會把這個責任往外推因為辦得好辦得不好最後發包單位啊還是對是園羽會發包園文會發包還是文化中心發包園民會園民會發包然後動用你們所有的人力 |
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那我是希望說 既然是一個可以展現原住民文化的軟實力它的效益一定是非常大的所以這個部分我真的是很高興 為什麼我跟主委講 我其實在五年前我就質詢過了 |
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但是我沒有想到在114年底竟然能夠成型辦出來然後看到三個月準備這樣的一個規模如果你讓我打分數已經及格了啦但是我們總覺得我們希望會更好更完整那希望你們把它好好的規劃 |
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在下一次我們看到的時候希望真的是不是只有讓我們的國人震驚啦我希望能夠震撼到全世界可以嗎可以好謝謝齁那繼續我也要關心其實我在110年的時候3月即將滿5年 |
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我就有質詢什麼呢我很關心你們文化發展中心有一個國家樂舞團為什麼我這樣子笑來你注意聽當時是怎麼樣子因為我們的組織文化中心的組織法寫著國家及原住民族樂舞團的設置規劃管理 |
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然後文化部有一個國立傳譯中心他的組織法也說會有這個聘用戲曲展演專業人員最多187人所以我在這個地方就有點想笑了國立傳譯中心的組織法說是聘用戲曲展演專業人員可是他們卻是法定預算 |
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然後呢文發中心組織法說是國家及原住民族樂舞團的設置規劃可是你們一直都是用計畫人力勞務採購所以我在110年就有問了那主委說會朝國家樂舞團的目標來推動而且還答應我說我要在一個月內提供我評估報告這個也是你們園民會很嚴重的問題我每次質詢說我要報告報告幾乎沒有拿到過報告 |
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就不把我們的質詢當一回事所以我想請教一下 到底到底你們有沒有朝這個方向努力好 謝謝好 謝謝委員長期對這個議題的關心那麼這個議題就是我們南盧瓦約舞劇團要納入國家級定位的這個目標那麼一直是我們這幾年來重要的工作那麼主委在當初時任主任的時候就提出了這個計畫 |
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那麼這個計畫我們在本會裡面已經做過很多次的討論那麼現在我們就是準備如果本會這邊對我們所提出的草案那麼大家就有共識的話就要準備送出本會然後進入一個正式的審議那請教主任您預估什麼時候這個國家級的樂舞團可以成立是 跟委員報告那麼上個禮拜我們也邀請行政院的人事長就是在主委的支持之下 |
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邀請任市長來我們園區那麼他也體認到我們園區這個樂舞劇團的重要性那麼也點出了一些方向那麼這個重點如下第一個那就是說希望國家對於這個舞團那個資源的挹注要穩定那麼第二個也希望這個舞台舞團未來的定位要維持它一定的自主性 |
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那麼至於達到這個目標的路有好幾種所以我們後續會跟本會還有跟行政院人事總署持續討論我也希望到我的辦公室跟我報告因為我關心這一題很久了我覺得為什麼我要這樣講 |
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我們主委在擔任文化發展中心主任的時候做了一件我很感動的事情啦除了申請那個綠珠雕琢計畫你們在去年也成立了新的歌舞展演場之外我比較感動的是他針對每一組去做歌舞劇特別是從冰唯雨組開始做起 |
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這個讓很多的賓威語族很有尊榮感甚至讓很多的年輕人回流我覺得這個是很重要的一件事那其實國家級的樂舞團他鼓勵的不是這些舞者而是鼓勵所有原住民的這些藝術家歌舞展演者我們也能夠成為國家級的表演者 |
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這個就是我講的 每次都說原住民文化多好多好聲量不相稱 我們看不到國家對他們尊重的做法這樣可以嗎 好 謝謝那另外一個部分 我也是要特別提這個也是很多年前 為什麼呢因為我在客家公共傳播基金會看到他們有做一個預算就是成立一個國立的客家兒童合唱團 |
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一年編1050萬 現在多少我不知道那他們做什麼事呢 他們跟兩廳院合作所以每一年都會讓客家兒童合唱團上去表演所以我幾年前也關注這個問題什麼時候我們原住民也可以有但是我關注是因為國際間唱原住民歌曲的團隊越來越少最主要的原因是我們沒有做出編曲 |
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如果我們有編曲全世界的管弦樂團合唱團他們都可以來演出我們台灣的原住民各族的歌謠但是因為國家 原民會沒有帶頭做所以現在反而是客家啊 菲律賓啊哇 國際間反而是他們的歌越來越多現在都沒有人在唱我們的歌了所以原民會要重視這個問題那當然合唱團也好 |
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或者是青少年管弦樂團也好我是希望說園民會可以來主動去規劃甚至是一些跨校的團隊組織可以來補助因為我看到教文處長站出來 處長您有什麼看法謝謝 委員您這個建議非常好其實因為我們學校原住民孩子善居在全台灣各地 |
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如果你要組成一個單一的國家的原住民管弦樂團他會有那個往返集訓孩子們的交通等等各方面問題所以在現階段要成立一個單一的團隊可能比較困難那我的建議是說我們可以鼓勵我們區域性的來組成這樣區域性的管弦樂團東區北區南區這樣他們就近可以來做練習未來也可以演出所以我們 |
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會來籌劃那鼓勵各區來組隊我希望教文處可以主動來規劃背後不單單是訓練我們這一些孩子們的音樂專長更重要是背後要有編曲要有曲譜這個對於我們的國際能見度跟文化傳承都是很有幫助的好不好這個部分其實我們在五年前就已經做了我們跟國家交響樂團已經有 |
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把水陸組的股票改變成交響業會後我會把這個CD交轉謝謝齁我就是一直在關注這個問題希望也給我一個報告那再來我要關心那個部落公法人的計畫齁我記得我在這一屆的第一個會期齁也就是113年的3月我院會總質詢我有跟院長說部落原住民自治 |
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還沒有共識之前至少部落公法人要先上那也很謝謝主委那在院長的一個支持之下你也開始要推動但是我現在有點頭痛因為我記得我質詢的時候是說應該找一些需要部落公法人工具的部落來辦理我們才有辦法檢討成效而且應該要有一個所謂的座談會也好或者是說明會 |
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在全國各地讓大家可以去聽一聽 辦一辦但是我發現很多參與的部落也沒有什麼現在要用到部落公法人工具然後我也沒有看到他們的一個檢討說明會那我不太曉得說到底現在要怎麼做 |
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那跟委員報告就是針對那個114年的四個師範部落工法人我們已經有針對他們的執行一年後的成果逐一做一個檢討會議然後我們也邀請一些相關的學者專家去幫我們檢視他們過去一年的執行的狀況 |
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來當作後續要辦理的一個機組那15年的部分我們會朝向就是說希望能夠把這個透過這樣的一個實踐的經驗把法規伸出來的這樣的方式來持續辦理 |
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我的意思是說我們要在做中學啦像這個部落公法人你們應該要研議法規的鬆綁讓事辦的部落有明確的工具去執行他的法人行為嘛例如去跟廠商締約或者是說開戶等等我覺得這個部落公法人他很重要嘛甚至有的部落可能他們已經告訴我說 |
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既然以前的村民大會已經變成部落會議為什麼村長不要變成部落會議主席也有人這樣跟我講所以我覺得其實各個部落各個族群都有不同的想法我們希望透過事辦就是要去抓到各個部落事辦的一個成效跟檢討我們才有辦法往前推進但是因為我一直都沒有拿到這些報告我也沒有看到你們 |
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那既然這樣子講 我希望給我好 不好意思 按鈴了 第五個那個文件站的趙服員 我先這樣講我這幾年碰到很多文件站收站了第一個 評鑑不加退場第二 理事長換人了 他們說我們不接了第三 也有人是招不到人了 所以就退場了但是他們有一個共同的問題來找我們就是資遣費發不出來啦 |
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你叫我怎麼去協調這種事我只是想問當政府撥款給一個協會協會用這個錢去聘用造福員然後他收了之後可能因為辦不好或者是不可抗力的原因他沒有去支付那些造福員的資遣費啦然後重點我算給你看50歲以上的造福員現在佔90% |
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有大概374位28%即將400位 即將要退場要退休 借齡退休而且50歲以上的竟然佔那麼多啦 |
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這個以後衍生出來的一堆問題即將在未來的幾年就會陸續發生然後我們接棒我們交給協會去做這些事大家也都清楚知道啊地方的社區發展協會又不是盈利單位甚至很多運作也不是很正常結果原民會把這樣的重責大任交給他們 |
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可以跟委員報告喔 那我們的資錢費是可以用行政管理費去做支應的只要說非規則與執行單位的部分 他們都說不夠他們說那一點點的 他們說他們付不出來那沒關係 那縣府我們也有一些行政管理費縣府也不管他們 對我們都開過協調會 如果有個案的話我們可以來看一下所以你的意思就是說 未來協會衍生出的這些大量的資錢費 原民會都會買單 |
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我們是可以從那個 對 我們會協助但是都會從我們的行政管理費所以那些計畫負責人都不用扛責任 |
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如果是規則以他們自己 如果他個人因素說我這個人不要的話 那可能行政大會是要我是希望 園民會應該要會同勞動部 釐清三方契約下的雇主責任歸屬提出制度性的解決方案然後呢 也要去研議文件站的營運模式過去這些具備穩定財力跟專業的這些社福機構我不曉得 為什麼他們要退場 |
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這個 原民會要重新去檢討了解我的意思齁所以我覺得這個部分 請原民會好好檢討也給我一個報告 也希望到辦公室報告齁那再來就是元寶地的貸款終於上路了齁 |
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我相信很多的事情萬事起頭難但是我相信也很多人在觀望看這個結果所以我希望園民會能夠每一年的提出檢討報告 |
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對的事情對的政策我希望原民會就要堅持我相信政府也不會不管好不好那儲蓄互助社呢也是我知道原民會多少年來也都在幫忙補貼利息 |
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讓我們的族人到儲蓄互助社可以用比較低的利率或者是也可以用元寶地比較簡單的方式可及性的方式去拿到一些金融但是我其實要講的就是說因為你們在去年的10月27號發布一個新辦法然後又說之後的10月27號以後要用新辦法讓他們措手不及 |
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我已經有在上上個禮拜幫忙開協調會齁那這個協調會其實很有共識喔因為我們發現原來是一場誤會啊因為對原民會來講現在你們的放款放到五千萬之後哇 你們的錢暴增你們要補貼給儲蓄戶住社的錢暴增 |
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但是對儲蓄互助社來講其實他也沒有賺到錢他在意的是你利息補貼讓他們可以用較低的利率給我們的族人所以他們說建議你們園民會只要去做放款的總額管制其實就可以解決雙方的問題所以主委這個部分我是想說後面可能你們還要有一個明確的公文再發下去可以嗎 |
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好 謝謝那再來也是一個問題就是原住民知識體系這個計畫中長城110到114年結束一樣的問題他們也是突然拿到一個公文說以後不辦了所以我們又要開協調會但是開了協調會發現又是誤會一場 |
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那彼此之間也找到共識那我細節我就不細講我只是要表達希望原民會以後對於新的措施新的辦法請提早一點啦而且一定要做好溝通檢討避免衍生這些不需要的誤解好不好 |
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好那這個部分我也希望就是要把那個確定的部分發給各個城辦的大學因為很多知識中心很擔心他們的大學會對他們有所誤解所以這個公文一定要發好不好好謝謝那再來就是我比較關心的原住民族教育的一個中長城的發展 |
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今年115到119新的中長城計畫出來了那我很高興就是我過去長期要求的園民會跟教育部一定要有一個最上位的思考如果我們最上位思考是原住民自治人才的培育就應該要知道要培養哪一些人才既然知道要培養哪一些人才就應該主動積極去找大學的優勢學校科系讓他們來承攬這一些專班 |
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這個才是正辦殺手不管你看現在一堆原專班開了但是沒有什麼原住民自治人才的相關的重要科系開了結果少子化之後一間一間又關閉 |
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所以我覺得原民會一定要跟教育部一定要長長的去討論最上位的思考那麼公務人才的培育就是原住民自治人才的培育那未來原資中心全國各大專業校也都開設了那他未來他的角色是什麼 |
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他要輔導我們的學生啊 你看我們的原治中心喔越開設越奇怪因為我們的出債學率 高等教育跟一般的大學生是落差達百分之三十八錯學率喔 跟一般全體的大學生差百分之三十八國小差不多 國中差不多 高中差不多竟然到大學是斷崖式的表示我們的大學生很可憐啊 |
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他們去哪裡了去打工了去哪裡了所以這個部分我真的希望原資中心的角色要去重視他所以我希望教文處長在這邊我相信這方面你其實很有想法也很多心得那未來在我們的原住民教育的中長城計畫跟考選部 權序部 人總教育部 園民會可以一同的來努力好不好 |
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那這個最後就是說關於跨溝通的平台我希望原民會你們也要找農業部啦因為上次你們跟農業部一人出一半的錢全國營養午餐推廣小米結果呢只有推廣三十幾間學校因為找不到小米為什麼原住民一百多年前台灣的主食小米為什麼淪落到今天這個地步 |
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沒有人種小米 是不是因為我們的山坡地我們沒有辦法種是不是因為我們的森林法 野保法 水保法 山坡保育利用條例 種種的法令限制了我們的土地的利用所以我覺得這個部分 農業部我也常常跟他們溝通我希望原住民的產銷班都能夠去重視小米種不出來 沒有人種小米這件事可以嗎 主委 |
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可以 謝謝那最後就是關於我們的這個姓名之亂因為大法官釋憲之後我們的原住民身份法做了最新的修法所以新法要去讓舊法的人趕快在1月5號前辦理我要跟主委說我的辦公室接了300多通電話南部服務處台北辦公室每一個助理都在負責接電話我們也已經接到很會回答問題了 |
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所以所有的問題都解決了我現在只是要說 請護鎮所當時我有要求要個別通知你們有去跟護鎮所溝通了嗎 |
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那其中有一個我還沒有辦法解套現在講給你聽就是姓名條例第15條有宣告這個經過判決確定的人要執行完畢滿三年所以有一堆人要等三年後改名但是我覺得很奇怪因為他不是要改名他的漢名還是漢名他只是要並列增加原住民的名字而已羅馬拼音 原住民族文字 |
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你們可不可以含釋一下免得他們三年後才能夠變原住民包委員 這個部分是屬於內政部主管的法規這個部分我們再跟內政部協調一下我的意思是說 原民會要主動去積極協調不是由立委每次開協調會還有一些衍生的費用以及所有的系統 健保卡 身分證 護照 駕照一堆人跟我們說 都打不上去啦 |
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而且很多人還拿到手寫本所以這個蠻困擾的其實很多年前我們就有開始去要求但是進度有點慢希望園民會再跟各部會來去做溝通協調外交部內政部很多那再來就是最後一個禁法補償 |
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關於禁法補償 很多的我們的族人就是因為他們很擔心會列入所謂的收入所以在社會救助法這個地方我們很多年前也開過協調會當時要求原民會只要做出不具經濟效益他們就願意來認證但是他們現在就是回覆說要把它列入不動產 |
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1519.391 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].text |
所以我在去年的11月我也開過協調會那目前衛福部是說他們社會救助法會做修法但是也請原民會在禁法補償條例也要做修法所以這個部分社助法也好禁法補償條例也好我個人都已經提出修法反本那不曉得原民會這個部分有沒有積極的來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].start |
1521.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].end |
1543.407 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].text |
這個部分在12月17號我們已經邀請華為部還有衛福部以及財政部來做一些跨部會的一些協調那我們持續會在追蹤好不好這個應該要積極來辦理啦主任很關心那安息日會我要謝謝你們因為他們禮拜六做安息什麼事也不能做也不能參加考試所以他們很少公務員 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].start |
1544.508 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].end |
1570.735 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].text |
因為國家考試都放在禮拜六他們幾十年來陳情也很難啦但是我要誇獎園民會園民會你們基於族人的愛護幾年前你們有同意他們的三育聖經學校作為考場然後送完夕陽之後就開始考試但是他們有接到通知說115年說不准了啦我想聽一下原因是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].start |
1572.725 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].end |
1591.572 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].text |
跟委員做說明在前次我們有去拜會陳介嶺校長陳校長他也特別提出如果是在安息州那是沒有問題就以他們提出的條件作為考試場合這是第一個我們有辦到那麼第二個就是如果不是非安息州他們是開放外面 |
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1591.932 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
1610.007 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].text |
那這個週次我們就不安排那個考場那這一次上次的問題是因為他們整個的系統上出了一些的小錯誤所以意思就是說其實還是可以的對不對好 謝謝我想替族人去著想是園民會的責任啦那謝謝 也請園民會繼續努力謝謝主委 謝謝主席 |