| IVOD_ID |
167184 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167184 |
| 日期 |
2026-01-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-15-21 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第21次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
21 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第21次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-01-19T12:10:36+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-01-19T12:33:48+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:23:12 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/4ba512932926f851a8ecf2fa8c2561d375d69df13e4e8eda37d2db32b336acc68b5c004b5ca1c9ca5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
高金素梅 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:10:36 - 12:33:48 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-01-19T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期內政委員會第21次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請原住民族委員會主任委員率同所屬及財團法人原住民族文化事業基金會董事長與財團法人原住民族語言研究發展基金會董事長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。二、邀請內政部部長就「賴清德總統興建13萬戶社會住宅政策無法落實之檢討」進行專題報告並備質詢。） |
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謝謝召委有請人民會主委請曾主委 |
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曾主委其實本席在這邊質詢您一直以來都是用非常溫暖的口氣在質詢您可是您救人到現在我發現本席辦公室跟您辦公室跟園民會的互動越來越差要的資料你們越來越不給然後時間還很長我希望今天主委在這邊答應我 |
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也公開的跟我的辦公室說希望未來我要的資料我們的互動不要像前 |
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您就任之後這麼糟糕可以嗎可以我想這個一定會要求來我不知道裡面到底是出了什麼狀況我曾經非常善意的提醒我希望主委你能夠撤換一些失職的幕僚可是呢到目前為止你還繼續使用這些錯誤的幕僚做錯誤的判斷而這位錯誤的幕僚其實呢各個地方的原住民的族人都知道他是誰 |
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我希望今天詞群完畢了之後主委回去能夠請他收斂好好做好他幕僚的工作而不是私底下的主委 |
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好嗎好我們會特別要求修正好我要幾個問題就問您第一個身份法之亂最近身份法之亂當初修法也是你們園民會自己提的而這部法在111年就修好了當時給你們三年的緩衝是可以準備的 |
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然後這三年中好好的跟族人說明你怎麼樣要做什麼樣的事情就不會喪失你原住民的身份可是呢現在已經快到了我們的族人陷入非常恐懼並且在慌張中度過我們可以看一些數據一直到1月5號 |
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新北桃園花蓮仍然有超過600個人還沒有更正所以整體來說還有4440人面臨要喪失他原住民的身份的風險主委三年的準備期怎麼會搞到最後一刻好像是連滾帶爬的你可以簡單說明一下為什麼謝謝委員 |
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我想這個能夠就是說自己的族名還有就是這個轉變成原住民的身份除了就是說個人又有很強烈的這個這個欲望之外那想我們也都有通知掌握我們有掌握好這4000多個人我們已經通知了3年了耶那還通知不好然後還沒有辦法辦完 |
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主委你們不要在這邊撇清承認我在這裡有三件事情要你們趕快做第一件立刻規劃用書面逐一通知真正的當事人然後讓我們真正要申請的族人盡快辦理 |
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而不用申請的我們的族人他可以安心第二個立即跟護證師橫向整出訂出雙軌的宣導機制第三2月5號之前2月5號快到了今天已經是1月幾號了所以你們大概還有不到半個月的時間 |
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我希望你們每一週能夠到我的國會辦公室裡面來做說明報告最新的進度還有它的完成率因為你們既然沒有辦法自己去完成三年當中沒有辦法完成那就讓我的辦公室來督促你們 |
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好不好好這個這剛剛委員要求這三項我們即刻就會OK好最後我要講的是2月5號族人如果沒有完成他的這個處理的這個身份他會不會喪失原住民的身份如果會的話誰來負責他暫時會會喪失那 |
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可以即刻再來申請所以你的意思是說2月5號以後主任沒有辦理的他以後還是還可以辦理可以是這樣的意思嗎對還是可以沒有影響他日後的申請你要確定喔不然我們的主任以後去申辦的時候不能的話那這個責任你要負責喔不會確定第二個禁法補償的問題 |
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進法補償 主委你知道嗎 現在是影響我們的族人中低收入戶的資格喔你知不知道非常嚴重知道嗎 主委 |
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我知道這個我們在12月中旬的時候也有特別就是發布會來看這個問題怎麼解決所以你們也要解決要要好我在這邊提醒你禁法補償的本質是因為國家禁止了我們的族人利用他的保留地原保地然後讓本來有經濟價值的土地他被剝奪了所以呢必須要用補償兩個字補償來彌補 |
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可是目前這個補償金的金額也僅僅只能夠填補族人土地被政府不當限制的部分損失而已喔雖然從3萬塊提高到6萬塊但是不是很多人的族人他的土地面積很大喔可是你們知道嗎你們跟衛福部說這筆錢是因為維護國土保安他要算收入 |
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所以現在我們的衛福部就把我們這個金髮補償的補償金他納入我們族人的所得認定所以影響到了我們的族人的中低收入的資格主委要解決吧我知道這個很嚴重那我們也會跟這個豪務部還有衛福部還有財政部相關部會我們在12月17號就有召開第一次希望我們來我們會很嚴肅的共同來檢討這個問題 |
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其實本席在這個禮拜就要召開一個協調會了我請原民會你務必要站在族人的立場不要扭曲為一般收入金髮補償不是一般收入它是政策因為讓原住民的土地不能使用所以它是補償 |
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補償是不可以變成收入的 知道嗎好 希望你們記得如果你們不站在主任的立場我希望主委你們要有人負責這件事情我們會站在主任的立場好 謝謝第三個我就是要講的是就業貸金還有中發基金的 |
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我們的就業代就是督促我們的廠商要僱用原住民對嗎然後他不僱用的話他就易注錢進入到我們的專款那我們看一下這個數字113年722件你們只處理了22件啊連一成都不到短收了多少2.5億然後我再跟你說111年到113年整個加起來也只半了一半 |
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短收5.4億 主委5.4億很大筆的錢數目對不對 主委對5.4億對園民會對族人來講是很大的一筆收入我要講的是因為你們的不作為短收了5.4億族人的就業權益受損 |
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我在這邊要非常的嚴肅的說不知道你們在圖利廠商還是你們在欺負我們自己的族人呢主委請你回答一下什麼時候把短收的5.4億給收回來委員可以讓我說明一下那跟委員報告一下這個5億多絕對不會是短收只是說現在就是因為我們帶進的人手不足但是我們今年的部分 |
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我們的那個法務有增加一名但是我們今年也換了一個新的廠商我要糾正你不是短收那是什麼這個本來就是要應該沒有用在沒有用原住民的身上你要給他罰款啊你要收回來啊你沒有收回來啊會會收回來會對啊你什麼時候收回來請問所以我們現在就是一直在趕111跟112年的部分那我們這個部分因為都還是在5年之內的那個 |
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那個收款的那個範圍之內 所以這個一定會收回來不會轉收現在是114 我們的人力會加強114年了 你還告訴我你要收回111跟112 113 114呢對 我們現在已經有在努力了什麼時候 努力多久了呀113年722件 你們只處理了22件 諸位 |
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你是不是要趕快要做趕快告訴我什麼時候收回我們會在今年的時候再加強加強如果今年沒有全部收回怎麼辦誰要負責任報告委員會努力因為這個還要去做一個調整不接受 主委請他不要說話 您說我給你看數據113年722件只處理了22件連一成都不到然後你們這個 |
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早就清楚知道要增加人力 對吧你們都一直不增加人力 一直到現在5.4億都沒有收回來然後你們現在還告訴我說你們要努力我不接受 我的族人也不接受 告訴我什麼時候收回主委我不要你這個回答 我不接受了 |
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113年722件只處理了22件連議程都不到111年到113年加總只辦了一半所以請你告訴我時間各位我們會盡全力齁在很短的時間我不要接受盡全力請你告訴我時間好那我也就是從現在開始算我希望說我們在一年內 |
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好這也是一個答案我不要盡全力我要的是一年內把這個5.4億的就業貸金給我收回來如果沒有辦法收回來的話你們要負政治責任好嗎好接著我要跟您說的是我們的中發基金中發基金我們要做些什麼事 諸位 |
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很多這個 我在上面給你看金融的業務等等中發基金對我們援助民族的權益來說很重要對吧 處長你要不要幫主委說話一下我們中發基金要做些什麼事中發基金的話就是主要在資金的隆通信用的保證以及等於是那個 |
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有關對於原住民的文錢還有一些土地利用限制的一個補償收入去做處理好在今年你們終於出面承認105到113年的基金累積是短處了68.73億對嗎而本席非常的負責幫你們提出組決議 |
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然後這個組決議是要求行政院分3年必須要撥補22.91億元可是我們看到今年行政院只給你們了5億硬生生就少給了18億我的族人聽好 綜合發展基金 |
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744.741 |
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縱使身為一個立法委員提出了主決議行政院還是不在乎原住民的綜合發展基金然後硬生生給少給了18億我要請問一下綜合基金的這個23.4億的缺口你們要怎麼補 主委 |
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769.532 |
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儲蓄互助社是原住民最重要的一個互助社有很多的基金也因為這個不足而影響到了族人的權益所以呢你們要怎麼處理 |
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除序互助社這個業務其實就在佔我們這個中華基金其實超過百分之十很重要的一個業務因為原住民的貸款都是在跟他們在做貸款除序互助社跟原住民有相當很深的關係所以這個業務我們會持續的來給協助那你這個缺口怎麼補 |
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今年是先補充五億我想我們還仍然要跟主席總書記錄來爭取什麼時候跟他爭取那個會持續就是說在今年度會再跟行政院如果不剝足的話你們是不是會正式跟主任報告 |
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825.755 |
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我們會跟主席總署來拜託他們就是說應該就是按照我們當時的這個決議是不是要補足這個金額所以你要跟院長說明 |
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綜合發展基金很重要請我們的執政黨民進黨政府不要一方面說很照顧原住民一方面該補足的都不補足然後主決議明明已經定了他還不按照主決議的模式來撥補給我們園民會園民會不准再穿小鞋了好嗎 主委 硬起來好 繼續最後一個問題園文會傳統季影季主語節目 |
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這個問題我聽說是賴總統很想做世界原住民傳統運動會但是呢我們的總統又不給錢因此呢你們用國家語言整體發展方案原住民族主語節目影音製作的計畫 |
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885.264 |
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然後呢你們把這個要製作強化族語發展跟節目自製能力的錢拿來掛羊頭賣狗肉然後就去辦什麼跟族語毫無相關的運動會這不僅僅是公然亂用經費 更是掏空我們族語的振興啊 主委你怎麼說明我跟委員報告這有關這個族語的這個文化 族語的文化他有含有很多的面向 那其實辦 |
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這個 藉這個 這個活動來辦這樣的事情你這個活動叫 你這個計畫名稱叫什麼 請問跨國族語節目直播跨國族語節目直播為什麼你們原民會對外宣傳都是說原住民世界運動會 |
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932.953 |
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自播跟運動會有什麼關係你知道一旦用運動會這個名稱他就必須要有另外的科目而且只要是運動會對於來參加競技比賽的這些族人尤其是學生他可以作為評量成績 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].start |
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963.927 |
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然後呢你如果是運動會你就得發揮縣政府的力量鄉公所的力量甚至於公部門的力量甚至於你原民會的力量都要來可是你是自播節目啊自播節目啊而且你還自播的六集花了多少錢我跟大家報告8500萬8500萬自播了六集的節目 |
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然後這六集的節目呢本來這個8500萬留下來是因為王宏威的揭弊 |
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因為有些要去自播節目的很清楚的給了委外別人引起了很大的風波因此8500萬被保留下來而我們的園民會就用這個8500萬去討好賴清德總統賴清德總統應該要給我們辦運動會的錢不辦然後用這個8500萬去辦然後跟大家報告8500萬裡面有九成外包 |
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所以我都說 原文會你們是外包能力的單位啊原文會你們有原住民電視台耶你們連直播都不要用自己耶然後你們把所有的錢都拿去委外這個廠商去辦活動辦什麼活動 原住民世界日然後這原住民世界運動會呢 辦了非常浮華 |
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| transcript.whisperx[46].end |
1057.419 |
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然後政治人物都去謝謝賴總統政治人物都去台上講話唯獨高金素梅沒去原因我清楚知道這是賴總統想辦的但是卻不給錢這筆錢要強化族羽發展提升自治能力 對吧 主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].start |
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好 結果進九層 7500萬全部用在辦活動5500萬發包給廠商然後這些廠商呢 把所有拍過來的東西呢然後再交給原民會 原文會原民會再去把它剪出來變成六級所謂的應該說是什麼 節目是世界原住民的自播節目 |
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好厲害喔主委來沒關係我們請那個處長簡單說一下因為這是你的教文處的業務是 簡單的說明是 謝謝委員的指教我想在我們核定補助園文會的3億7百萬的主委方案的經費裡面他其實就有一個我知道正式四年計畫蘇貞昌院長在的時候 |
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合併的 我們都很希望有合併政筆計劃好好用來處理方案 可是沒想到8500萬到最後要被執行的時候被王宏威揭幣揭出來 因此8500萬被保留了 |
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在他的整個規劃原委會所提出來的製作的策略裡面他有一個第七項就是要做跨國族語節目的直播跨國族語的直播跟世界原住民運動會有什麼關係我想他的方式是透過運動會的方式來做直播節目的內容那在坊間其實有很多的這樣的 |
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那你們原命會應該宣傳的是原住民族族語節目影音製作計畫你們應該是要這樣子宣傳啊然後你們要這樣做宣傳的時候呢來的所有的族人是不是應該要有節目的參與費 |
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因為我是製播節目我是來自演藝圈啊你讓我來製播你這個節目他不是競技選手欸他是來參與你這個節目欸每一個人來參與的人應該要拿到一些經費吧車馬補助費吧然後一些補貼費吧我是演員我要有應該要有啊我的主任拿到了沒有 |
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這些各組的選手來參加這個節目還是說運動會的執行其實他們都有相關的提供車碼住宿費都是由這個節目的經費來支應的好 這個節目經費是給個人還是給縣市政府還是給鄉公所 |
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| transcript.whisperx[54].end |
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其實是由縣市政府來代轉給我們的各自的是園民會給還是園文會給還是這些外包的廠商在節目的製作節目裡面給是由園文會來支應的好 我也跟你們要了好久的資料我也開了兩次的會議處長我可以在這邊要求你 |
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以後你們要做什麼事情就大方的跟族人報告這是節目影音製作計畫這不是世界運動會原住民世界運動會因為你很清楚只要是運動會就有禁忌 |
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| transcript.whisperx[56].end |
1266.837 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].text |
有禁忌就一定會有獎金對吧有獎金他一定會有一些獎狀對吧這些獎狀還可以用為孩子的評量的成績可是這次是完全沒有是因為他不是運動會因為呢他是影音製作計畫你們要檢六級 |
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| transcript.whisperx[57].end |
1272.702 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].text |
然後來核銷這個蘇貞昌院長以前核定的四年經費而且很奇怪喔除了8500萬之外你們園民會還有52名的正式人力支援3到5天然後你們園民會自己又出了46萬多的出差費然後你們的媒體宣傳費花了多少錢我現在跟你要資料也沒有資料 |
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| transcript.whisperx[58].end |
1315.986 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].text |
然後主任也告訴我說我們的相關所被要求派員參加我們的主委老師被要求要支援現場來幫忙然後主委老師的費用是從哪裡出的是從8500萬出的呢還是教文處你另外就補給這些主委老師呢這些我現在也都沒有拿到資料因為今天時間時間已經沒有那麼多了我可不可以要求園民會主委跟處長 |
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| transcript.whisperx[59].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[59].text |
以後賴總統要辦原住民世界運動會請賴總統跟行政院自己出錢給原民會辦理不要用原民會的公務預算裡面因為我們沒有這個科目也不要用族語的這些錢拿去做包裝做世界原住民運動會讓我們的原住民的族人一頭霧水可以嗎 |
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1350.523 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].end |
1357.408 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].text |
可以但是我跟委員講就是說辦世界民主運動會也不是說是特別總統交代或者是院長交代 |
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1357.935 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].end |
1363.119 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].text |
因為我們跟這些那誰想做的因為我們跟這些南島語系的國家既然這會是主委你想做的事情我也沒有不同意你做所以麻煩你們直接在你們要送出預算的時候就說每年你要辦這件事情每年要辦這件事情經費怎麼來要有多少錢請你們明白的寫出來不要再這樣子掛羊頭賣狗肉好不好主委好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
1392.858 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].text |
謝謝 |