| IVOD_ID |
167180 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167180 |
| 日期 |
2026-01-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-15-21 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第21次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
21 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第21次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-01-19T11:25:06+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-01-19T11:39:20+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:14:14 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/4ba512932926f851aac874388b522f1475d69df13e4e8eda37d2db32b336acc6a1a78cd5b970aaea5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:25:06 - 11:39:20 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-01-19T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期內政委員會第21次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請原住民族委員會主任委員率同所屬及財團法人原住民族文化事業基金會董事長與財團法人原住民族語言研究發展基金會董事長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。二、邀請內政部部長就「賴清德總統興建13萬戶社會住宅政策無法落實之檢討」進行專題報告並備質詢。） |
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主席 各位委員有請主委委員好 主委好這個原住民族教育程度的落差主委知道嗎原住民跟非原住民大專學生的出債協力的差距多少 |
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75%到90%好 正確的數字齁這個表示齁 這個我們園民會的處齁 要加油齁我質詢過這個教育部齁 你們同仁也在齁 回去要跟主委報告齁 |
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原住民近五年大專校園原住民學生的出債協力107學年度是差距是31.9然後逐年增高113學年度差距高達36.85%今天延命會的業務報告裡面都特別提到提升原住民的人才 |
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這個教育是最重要 最重要的這個最重要的 最重中之重 教育所以這個部分 研明會要去重視當然你會覺得說跟我的業務沒有很大的關係事實上你們要去協調有幾個部分要去協調教育部分第一個部分 外加名額過去我們這個 主委 |
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我們過去考大學的時候不是外加名後來改為外加百分之二這個杜部長杜正勝部長的時候把它改為外加百分之二我經過協調之後部分的科系現在教育部可以提高為百分之五外加百分之五但是那個科系太少而且這個規定教育部的這個辦法的規定 |
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是要延民會跟教育部一起去跟大專校園能夠增加這些科系所以這個部分最好是全部改為外加5%因為我們的落差太大了可以去協調嗎 主委可以啊 我們來跟部長這邊來協調也要請我們的副主委要積極的去協助這個主委跟教育部去協調過去我當副主委都是去協調 負責去協調 |
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另外一個問題就是在協雜費 協雜費 教育部的協雜費的減免這個會跟什麼有關係呢 跟我們的休閒 退閒 就跟經費有關係 就跟這個教育經費有關係 |
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你看我們111學年度大專以上學生休學原住民是10.55%一般的非原住民只有5.87%差距差不多將近一半我們的退學率更高13.01%也將近5.63%的一個落差這個就是跟沒有經費預算尤其 |
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因為外加2%之後就去念私立大學私立大學的費用又高啊經費付不起又要去辦公辦讀當然就影響這個學業嘛就會休學甚至會退學這個都跟經費有關係所以112年6月29號 |
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行政院公布了私立大專學校的協雜費非原住民可以掃繳3.5萬但是原住民完全沒有受益因為用不到因為我們有另外一個制度所以本席在112年7月就協調但是經過了8年都沒有調整所以這個要請教育那個研民會也要去協調 |
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因為原住民族教育的經費每年編列的時候啊園民會跟教育部要去協調呢原住民族教育經費不能超少於多少那個部分你們要怎麼樣去調整在這個教育的這個相關的這些經費裡面這是非常非常的重要所以這個要請這個園民會盡速的去協調園民會自己本身的部分 |
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110年獎助學金獎助學金的部分從111年到現在也都沒有調整物價指數各方面也都是應該去協調所以你們的預算的編列怎麼樣去針對援助民主教育能夠有所重視這個部分 主委這個要去修正調高 要檢討 |
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接下來原住民族綜合發展基金很重要你看105年12月31號的結算數淨值淨值高達117億7000多萬元經過這個因為淨法補償被挪用作為淨法補償所以112 12月31號結算數是負的 本來是淨值 |
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393.057 |
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正數115億變成負的63億累積到114年12月31日累積短數負的67億6千多萬到113年一樣累積短數又增加負的68億8千多萬所以這樣的一個情形你們要做其他事情都很困難 |
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所以這個要去爭取 主委你要知道當初沒有原住民足跡本法的時候每年我從原住民行政 台灣省原住民行政局的副局長開始去協調足跡單位每年去撥幾億幾億 |
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才會有達到100多億是這樣的一個基礎所以這個部分你看一直短促立法院在第九屆第二會期就做了決議106年的時候就做了決議應該要去撥補所以我們高軍數美委員跟本席有共同的提案要修這個原住民族基本法第18條把它明定在因為100億 |
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我們本來就超過100億 對不對 我們要修法所以你們要去協調相關的部會要支持這個修法 可以嗎可以 今年有補助5億 有補充5億到這裡來主委 那個我清楚 那個還是去做進法補償的所以這個進法補償的要扣掉 |
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488.656 |
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本來就不應該 淨法補償本來應該用公務預算的所以這個 不過我們這個這個去協調 反正要讓它回到一百億的一個方向這個是有這個基金你才可以做很多的事情包括貸款 臨住民保障局貸款 |
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開始做了但是這個利率既然已經有綜合發展基金去做這個信託就應該要降低這個利率結果利率還高達2.28%這樣的一個利率比其他的 |
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536.199 |
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其他的新清安房貸啊一般型房貸什麼那個都比較都來的比較低啊我們的還是高啊所以等於既然有了信保就應該既然有基金去保證就應該降低它的利率這才是一個對我們原住民的潛意的一個保障這個接下來內政部部長也來一下內政部 |
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主委你也要在場這是你的業務我是舉例過去沒有原基法的時代沒有原住民族基本法的時代台灣省政府開始每年的編列相關的這些基隆國宅包括我們這個新店中正原住民的住宅當初 |
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| transcript.whisperx[21].end |
595.113 |
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帶頭抗疫去到台灣省政府我那時候是副組委副局長還是副組委那時候去興建買了這個中正國宅對不對像這樣的當初就是用政府的經費公務預算你看現在當然又出了問題你看我們這個新店三峽也是用公務預算這個相關的棄子的花東新村也都是用公務預算 |
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那時候都沒有住宅法 也沒有延期法那現在有了延期法 測定原住民族住宅政策然後要對都會區的安基要有保障 要協助然後呢 住宅法第二條 第四項英式原住民族教育及語言文化等傳承發展校要新建 |
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專攻原住民成豬的社會住宅105年12月23號修正到現在到現在沒有一個原住民的專屬的原住民族住宅所以現在都會區的原住民人口已經高達52.8%了我們的相關的這些原住民族住宅的自由利 |
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671.862 |
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新北市台北市桃園市台中市都差距百分之三十左右啊這樣大一個差距當然要去加加強我們的原住民專屬的社會住宅但是到現在為止都沒有一個主要還是經費嘛還要經費所以本席啊針對園民會的一百一十四到一百一十七也曾經 |
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協調國發會當然就內政部而言你們的住宅基金難道都不能去提供作為興建原住民專屬的社會住宅嗎都沒有做你看看這個國發會的主委都同意要列在這個列在這個原住民住宅的四年計畫裡面 |
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質詢答覆本席也發了公文把國發會主任委員的承諾也都發文給人民會都沒有做所以要去加油去修正提出去送出去我們共同的去協調相關的部會甚至行政院這個處長趕快發文 |
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反正修正了 還沒有做嘛 對不對這個已經快一年了 這個就一定要去爭取我們部長請回座 部長請回座最後 這個 主委花蓮光復香 馬太安溪 煙社府造成重大的傷亡 包括住宅 |
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相關的這些我們已經受害非常的深了現在經濟部水利署要將這個馬太安溪河道治理土石的站置場要放在馬太安部落的香草場的部落裡面這個部分要請嚴明會第一個這裡面很多的土地部落 |
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原住民的土地還是國有土地增花邊保留地因為跟分割經費沒有一直到現在幾十年都沒有辦保留地他沒有拿到所有錢到時候真的是被強制做土石佔自償的時候他完全拿不到任何的對不對連補償那個人的徵收都沒有辦法都沒有都不會有啊 |
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所以這個部分要請這個人民會第一個保留地的趕快去加速辦理第二個這是我們的部落要依延期法依延期法因為馬太安西苑社府的特別條例有提到要依延期法所以你們要跟那個經濟部所謂律師說你要設這個戰車場 |
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要依延期法 要經過馬太安部落的諮商同意可以嗎 趕快發文給他們 好 謝謝 |