| IVOD_ID |
167174 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167174 |
| 日期 |
2026-01-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-22-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期教育及文化委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
15 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
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| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
教育及文化委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期教育及文化委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-01-19T12:42:24+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-01-19T12:46:39+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:04:15 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/4ba512932926f8519fe30b9d71885762c02888e1e08ec371128c6ef5ed786e9bcdaf6cb2d6319c8e5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
羅智強 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:42:24 - 12:46:39 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-01-19T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期教育及文化委員會第15次全體委員會議（事由：一、教育部部長鄭英耀列席，就「高級中等學校以下學校供餐與飲食教育之執行情形、困難、挑戰與因應對策」以及地方財源補助問題等進行專題報告，並備質詢。
二、教育部部長鄭英耀列席，就新修正發布之「高級中等以下學校教師解聘不續聘停聘或資遣辦法」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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你這個政策本來就是要來修理老師然後那無所謂政策目的跟大家反應是一致的老師覺得你們這樣做不公平不對可是你既然都我看你今天的詢答你都告訴大家這是為了老師來解決問題了結果你弄到老師們全都不高興那就證明兩件事情嘛教育部事前溝通就沒做好嘛這一點我覺得部長你總不會否認吧否則為什麼老師們搞得這麼生氣這麼擔憂呢 |
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沒錯吧溝通要加強吧應該要繼續加強溝通這當然我們悉心接受對啊因為民主法治的社會當然跟教師團體還有一定的部長我是為您好如果真的如你所說這是幫老師們解決問題的話那你怎麼會弄到說老師們都出來抗議第二個就是說那也顯現過去我覺得教育部跟老師之間的互信不夠 |
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如果真的是你讲的是解决问题的话那今天老师们不相信教育部那教育部自己也要去检讨但实际上老师们担心是不是也不是杞人忧天我举几个例子比方说你现在老师们也是认为你新增一个审议校师会议是否受以 |
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這個的會議 由校外專家聘集由校長聘集外聘專家 校士會議是教師代表跟家長代表 四人組成審議小組我想請問只要有人陳情是不是就開始啟動這個會了我們當時為了解決這一個小案大辦 |
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所以在這個調查小組裡面它事實上有校內的老師代表有家長代表只有一位是屬於校外的公正人士我這樣子把老師們的疑慮講給部長聽他們認為說第一個這叫跌床架屋嘛你本來就有一個校事會上面再架一個房子上去然後呢 |
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耗損資源你還是不可能透過這方式來解決爛數的問題這老師們的疑慮啦你反正多了一道序多了一道序因為你們搭配了這個不但跟校事會議功能重疊權力也更直接嘛那裡面辦法對老師尋談 觀客 誤談這些報告條款 |
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你就是在增加老師們再多一道程序上的負擔這是老師們的疑慮你覺得這個疑慮出發點有錯嗎我們怎麼樣讓老師放心我想一直是我們努力的但是要跟我們報告就是因為過去其實只是我講的一個班級經營上的一個疏漏 |
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还不应该进入到校事会议但是我们现在因为小案大办全部都到校事会议本来他不处理我最后因为时间问题中间其实就有一个沟通的盲点你是希望这个所谓的前置的会议来去减少送援减少那个申诉员对处理员可是事实上有没有办法做到答案是问号嘛 |
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那很可能如果没有做到搞了半天最后进到这个地方的案子没有减少那案子审出来也没减少进到校室会议这才是老师们今天担忧的问题他没有办法透过一个外观你多了一道会议的程序他认为就能够达到所谓减少这个所谓烂数的问题嘛不是吗 |
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跟委員報告這個我們建立的這個機制是希望朝更好的那當然還剛開始那另外一個委員剛才所關心的我心存感謝我們來看怎麼樣累積這個食物那第二個就是說因為爛樹這個不具名的這一個把他先 |
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等於說不處理的時候我想對第一線上的老師一定程度我相信隨著時間他一定會有感好 最後只有一句話不要好心辦壞事也不要好心被人家認為你辦壞事這是第一個前面好心辦壞事是你把事情搞砸那教育部就要彈彈起車 |
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但如果说你今天没有打算把事情搞砸就人家认为会把事情搞砸那就沟通跟互信出了问题拜托教育部要好好检讨这方面的问题 |