| IVOD_ID |
167159 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167159 |
| 日期 |
2026-01-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-15-21 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第21次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
21 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第21次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-01-19T10:30:27+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-01-19T10:36:39+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:12 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/4ba512932926f85130fdc5766d86087575d69df13e4e8eda247638a9beb78aab0b94474edbfc61895ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
黃建賓 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:30:27 - 10:36:39 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-01-19T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期內政委員會第21次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請原住民族委員會主任委員率同所屬及財團法人原住民族文化事業基金會董事長與財團法人原住民族語言研究發展基金會董事長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。二、邀請內政部部長就「賴清德總統興建13萬戶社會住宅政策無法落實之檢討」進行專題報告並備質詢。） |
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好 謝謝主席 本席歡和一下情緒我們有請一下原民會主委請原民會曾志勇 曾主委委員好主委早 節哀 節哀好 各位所以今天是我們原民會的業務報告本席要跟你翻一件對台東許多原住民鄉親非常嚴重的一個警訊 |
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現在如果很清楚全國55個鄉鎮原住民鄉鎮裡面台東縣就佔了15個那尤其這個台東的21萬人口裡面有將近三分之一大概就是8萬人口左右是我們原住民的人數那高居全國第三高那不過這一次這個中央政府將地方政府的財力集資做出一個非常不合理的這個調整會造成 |
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未來許多原住民鄉鎮嚴重的衝擊喔那主委 主委你知道台東縣以往都是第幾級 財政等級 |
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我所知應該不是第一集啦應該是 因為主委你常說要計畫嘛我們才說一直來都第五集嘛然後結果 最近公布的一個名次是第一一次將第五集調到第一集齁這個跟首都台北是同樣列為自籌款最高的這個等級齁主委這個不是升等 這個是城中的負擔這個也不是獎勵 這個是變相的懲罰 |
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為什麼講變相懲罰 我們中央公告這個財力第一級的縣市包括台北市新竹縣市 然後台東縣喔那台北市一年的稅收大概是1800億 |
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那新竹縣是有科學園區作為重要的財源的來源那台東縣的人口大概是21萬年稅收大概是12億這麼大的差距結果它放在同一個集區裡面那更嚴重的是未來我們中央政府可以依據這樣的財政分配的分級的理由減少對台東的補助 |
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那對我們台東未來要推動地方建設社會福利還要都要負擔更高的自籌款嗎那這個部分本席在收到這個消息我們也馬上邀請我們台東縣的副縣長王智慧副縣長我們立刻到台北跟我們主計處來抗議齁那我們必須要重新來檢討台東的這個財力市我們也必須要請 |
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主基礎要含穩給中央各部會跟所有機關未來在受理台東補助的各項計畫的時候要考慮第一個台東的偏遠性還有第二個是我們原住民地區應該從寬來認定補助標準 |
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主要我們原住民我們原住民族委員會裡面有一個就是那個原民會對首屬機關還有對地方政府補助的這個原則這個原民會對地方補助這個計畫型的補助啊會依照地方的這個財力其實不同而給不同的補助對吧那最高的比例是不能超過90%嘛對不對那如果財力第一級的地方政府除非符合 |
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相關的情況 不然是願不願意是不會補足 本席這樣講對不對我跟委員報告喔 不管這個縣市是這個他的這個分級是第幾 |
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原住民鄉永遠是脆弱的一個部分你即便是第一級他對原住民鄉的照顧一定也是比較脆弱所以我們對原住民鄉的補助不會因為等級而有什麼特別的差別就是說我們一樣就是仍然是照顧原鄉照顧自己的族人 |
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為主啦所以主委你的意思是未來不管台東縣幾級我們還是比照原住民鄉鎮的補助標準對不對台東縣的15個會跟其他40個原住民鄉鎮都一樣嘛 對不對謝謝主委 所以其實這個大家都很擔心因為你看台東縣16個鄉鎮有15個都是原住民鄉鎮你這些鄉鎮長他情何以堪未來他只要想到他的計畫型補助我要自籌款拉到這麼高我以後怎麼敢再送計畫那 |
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你看那個原本可以申請到98接下來可能都沒有的申請未來他要推計劃就直接被他就直接被刷掉因為這個其實就把他刷掉嘛這個是非常不公平的那我想 |
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我們再看到一份資料就是說本期這邊辦公室統計說過去三年台東縣各鄉鎮跟原民會申請計劃計劃性的補助高達400個項目那我們總計的金額是36億如果按照我們原住民原住民原民會的補助標準這個金額是不是如果我說的照剛才講的如果是用一級的看他不是是腰斬他是所剩無幾的各位注意 |
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所以台東縣是中央民國很重要的原住民鄉鎮我們也自詡是南島文化的發源地那如果說未來如果原民會的態度不支持我們的話我們台東縣原住民鄉鎮都不會被照顧到也不能去重視所以在這邊本席要跟 |
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因為這邊提出兩個具體的要求第一個就是我們原民會必須去檢討現行的財力集資的補助標準如果中央仍然不願意調整台東的財力集資那原民會針對第一極限制中的台東縣就必須考量原住民鄉鎮發展還有台東縣自有稅收不足的情況放寬經費上的補助的比例就是剛才主委你承諾的這些事情 |
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那另外對我們台東縣15個原住民鄉鎮的權益標準要比照其他40個原住民鄉鎮那第二個我們原住民民會在參加參與其他部會的這個計劃審查的時候也必須明確的跟其他部會來表達就是說未來必須考慮台東縣地理的條件交通劣勢還有我們的稅都不足加上是原住民地區 |
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因此計畫性的補助款應該要全力來協助避免造成城鄉的差異過大衝擊到我們原鄉的這個城鎮的發展那以上兩點也請主委來承諾會跟我們相關單位來強力爭取並且在一週內提供本市資料提供本市辦公室主委好 會 我們會照委員的建議謝謝主委的支持 馬上就謝謝 |