| IVOD_ID |
167080 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167080 |
| 日期 |
2026-01-12 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-4-26,20-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期社會福利及衛生環境、財政委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期社會福利及衛生環境、財政委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-01-12T12:12:07+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-01-12T12:22:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:53 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/3ab52049cf0a1ce0c71b78d76239b7b2307671192a7c66aa603d53f4e90152977aee9c616f299ce85ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
黃秀芳 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:12:07 - 12:22:00 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-01-12T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期社會福利及衛生環境、財政委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：審查國民黨黨團、台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「臺灣未來帳戶特別條例草案」案。） |
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好謝謝主席我們請部長請石部長黃委員好 部長好 部長就今天這個我們要討論這個台灣未來帳戶其實我一直認為就是說我們應該先照顧這個需要被照顧的人那當然就是我們看到 |
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這個之前我們衛福部這邊也有推一個兒童及少年未來教育與發展賬戶那這個部分我想請教就是說我們從這個107年到現在這個成果是怎樣它的效益是怎樣因為這個是針對我們低收跟中低收的這個兒童那你們也將近這個快10年的時間那你們推展的這個效益是怎樣 |
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跟委員說明大概我們所訂的是低收入戶跟中低收入戶的兒少啦18歲以下的那所以目標族群大概差不多6萬人左右那目前已經有開戶的大概是6乘5有開戶那有持續一直在續繳的大概有8乘5也都持續續繳所以目前大概累積在這個賬戶裡面的大概是達到32億左右那6乘5那其他的部分 |
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其他的部分就是說因為這個因為這個是屬於當然這個開戶第一個關卡是要開戶所以開戶政府就會有1萬塊的開戶那之後呢就是對撥相對應的提撥所以如果這個家長沒有角落的話那政府就沒有這個對應的提撥啦所以我們現在的努力方向當然透過一些社工來幫忙那麼協助開戶 |
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那第二个就是如果没有继续续缴的了解原因那么社工也尽量来给他们做一些协助那我是不是可以请部长针对这一部分因为低收跟中低收的这些儿少是最需要被协助帮忙的所以如果目前是只有六成五有开户的话我们是不是可以再往前 |
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就是努力是不是可以再達到八成甚至九成或者百分之百這樣的開放因為確實如果本身這個家庭如果是低收或中低收的話整個經濟狀況其實就很不好有的就是靠政府的這些補助靠這個補助來生活那如果說你要請他額外再提撥這個一萬塊相對我們開戶 |
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其實對一個家庭來講是有困難那當然就是說我們是不是可以請社工這邊來協助就是說他們有什麼樣的困難那來協助那是不是目前六成五接下來是不是可以達到八成我是不是可以請部長有這樣的一個承諾然後請社工來協助 |
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好 我們朝這個努力 讓這個覆蓋率可以增加是 好 那接下來就是說我們今天的這個台灣未來賬戶其實這個提出來我也覺得還不錯就是說可以一方面這個只是解決少子化的其中一個項目而已其實少子化不是給錢就可以解決 |
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部長你認不認同對對完全認同你認同嗎其實我們碰到現在不婚不生的人確實是非常的多那有的經濟狀況也不錯那或者是有結婚他就不想要有小孩所以也不是說給錢他就會想要生 |
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當然就是說政府如果可以讓整個育兒的環境更好那政府也相對提撥一些經費來協助我相信應該也多多少少會有一些協助有一些幫忙那我可不可以請教就是說部長針對因為我一直在問這個少子化所以國人不生小孩這個少子化的問題你們有沒有特別去分析 |
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是什么样的原因有跟委员说明大家看到的这个低出生率这是最后的结果但是他背后的分析我们也做过那么以这个是适合生育的年龄的妇女那么来做分析的话是从25岁到44岁这个族群的妇女因为最主要是这个是适合生育的年龄来做分析在这一个 |
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这一25岁到44岁的这一群的妇女里面只要有过婚姻不论是现在还是不是婚姻状态那么他的生育率可以高达83到90%而且在过去这10年间的变动不会太大就是说一旦有结婚那么他会有生育那但是反过来如果在这一群里面呢没有结婚的那么他的生育的机会就是小于1% |
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那我们再从1990年来看1990年这一个年龄群的这个妇女没有结婚的比例大概是21%可是去年呢已经来到52%所以换句话说台湾的一个少子化问题跟婚育的概念非常高度相关 |
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所以如果沒有不婚在這段時間不婚的比例越來越高相對的生育率就會一直下降所以我們過去做了很多的努力在希望協助養育生育的家庭但是可能忽略了前面這一段就是婚育概念 |
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那这个是我们从数据上大概看到这个是另外一个就是让年轻人敢结婚对所以这个也是未来你们这个需要需要去努力的一个重点对那这个又牵涉到我们整个这个社会的进步 |
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那么教育的延长现在就是过去大学毕业之外硕士博士教育的延长还有职场上的友善这些都会影响到婚育所以我想这个不是只有确实像您提的不是只有钱的问题这个不是只有靠补助就可以完全达到提升的 |
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我們是希望明年新生兒的出生率不要比去年還要低其實我們看了我們都嚇死了真的在這幾年當中真的是斷崖式的整個人口結構生不如死所以我覺得部長這個應該也是衛福部也是一個跨部會 |
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非常重要的一個課題所有的這個孩子都是這個國家的未來的一個競爭力如果我們沒有孩子越來越少其實國家的競爭力是會越來越弱所以我希望部長當然我們都會講說希望能夠來解決少子化的這個議題那當然政府在這八年當中也投入了好幾千億也投入了 |
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5000多億5931億 5000多億可是我發現這個投入這麼多好像成效也不怎麼樣對不對 部長我們講說這裡面這個5931億裡面85%都是用在0到6歲國家一起養包含生育的補助包含托育補助育兒津貼還有學校教育其實我們投入的 |
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以0到6歲來講每一個孩子平均是120到180萬不等看他的情況家庭背景跟照顧方式那到底是力度還不夠需要再加強還是像剛剛提到的我們忽略了那個不婚的那一段因為這個不婚率一直在增加所以就造成這個生育率 |
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不見就是說有昏的他的生育率是維持住的只是因為不昏的比例在提高那部長你剛剛講說如果不昏的話從以前21然後現在是到52%那像這樣子的話你們的對策你們有什麼樣的對策嗎如果你知道的好原因是這個那你們有什麼樣的對策嗎這個是整個社會的觀念要去改變這個工程會更大 |
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你們有想過嗎我們就只在研究啦找學者啦什麼大家在做研究分析那也借盡其他的國家還有什麼做法可以來努力啦好我們希望就是說今年2026年的這個出生率不要比2025年還要少啦我覺得這部長應該也是你要的手中的一個目標 |
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要維持住然後不能少絕對生育率不能少那你剛剛講的這個我們既然知道原因是在哪一部分那你就是要提出一些對策當然不是那麼容易可是我覺得有想有去請專家學者或者是 |
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找一些人來問看看他們要怎樣才會想要結婚我覺得也許這個也是一個方式就是說想要結婚有什麼樣的動機我們是不是朝著這個方向然後去努力我們各方面都來努力思考這樣好 謝謝謝謝委員謝謝黃委員 謝謝部長 |