| IVOD_ID |
167068 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167068 |
| 日期 |
2026-01-12 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-4-15,36-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期內政、司法及法制委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期內政、司法及法制委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-01-12T10:36:56+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-01-12T10:42:19+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:05:23 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/3ab52049cf0a1ce01498d0eecef4c0b08a817aa92b948b9c603d53f4e901529766fd7484734a17d75ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
吳琪銘 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:36:56 - 10:42:19 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-01-12T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期內政、司法及法制委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：一、審查委員沈伯洋等20人擬具「反滲透法增訂第六條之一條文草案」案。二、審查委員陳冠廷等19人擬具「反滲透法增訂第十一條之一條文草案」案。三、審查委員林岱樺等18人擬具「反滲透法增訂第八條之一條文草案」案。四、審查委員黃捷等16人擬具「反滲透法第四條條文修正草案」案。五、審查委員沈伯洋等18人擬具「反滲透法增訂第六條之二條文草案」案。六、審查委員王美惠等18人擬具「反滲透法部分條文修正草案」案。七、審查委員李柏毅等16人擬具「反滲透法部分條文修正草案」案。八、審查委員王定宇等16人擬具「反滲透法第三條、第四條及第五條條文修正草案」案。九、審查委員王定宇等16人擬具「反滲透法第五條條文修正草案」案。十、審查委員林宜瑾等20人擬具「反滲透法第二條、第九條之一及第九條之二條文修正草案」案。【僅詢答】） |
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好 召委一位同仁請我們國安局我們的陳副處長還有我們內政部的副處長好 兩位處長針對因為網路的詐騙包含手機高度的普及今天我們修了反滲透法的部分條文的修正草案 |
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那民眾大家都知道以前過去我們曾經修過但是已經時空背景都不一樣已經也過了五六年那現在是AI的時代也高科技的時代那現在的詐騙的手腕都是非常的先進你像在是Meta的詐騙在我們網路上大家都可以看得出來那未來我們對我們國家的安全性 |
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我們要怎樣去做防範現在是整個防範的系統要怎樣來賀值畢竟現在在11月就大選了那地方選舉會不會又過成境外勢力的介入這是本席比較關心的那是不是請我們 |
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國安局來看你們掌握到的Meta他們那個詐騙的數量有多少有沒有赫茲有沒有逐年的下降 |
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是 跟委員報告這個針對這個委員所關心今年關於選舉的狀況本局這個會有相關的專案來因應那網路上流傳這些徵印訊息因為我們比較關注徵印訊息影響國家安全的部分像我們去年2025年我們就掌握了231萬余者的徵印訊息那也有發現231萬余者的對 認知作戰徵印訊息那我們也掌握了4萬5千多筆的這個假帳號 |
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那相關當 相關的狀況我們也有循我們的專案機制通報相關機關來做查處那也有請相關的社群平台業者來做下架動作那委員所關心可能涉及到年底選舉的部分我們本局會持續協同各國安情報團隊來加強掌握這部分狀況來及時應處李昌鮑跟委員說明但是我我們國安局我聽你所講我們就是有查獲但是你要喝止你有沒有懲處 |
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只不過是下架而已那這樣 報告員如果涉及到這個惡假害我們也會請我們司法警察機關比如說調查局或刑事局來去針對這個來去做依法的追訴跟查查 |
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因為我們最主要是要怎樣來嚇阻因為Meta的數量是太過驚人這對我們整個國家的安全對百姓的詐騙都是一種非常嚴重的傷害這是我們本身我們公務單位就是要積極的去嚇阻這種事情的發生這是我們現在都比較積極的來做的所以今天修律法 申託法的部分條文修正案 |
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本席是非常的認同這是對我們未來整個國家的安全性我們還是要秉持的趕快去讓我們民眾的傷害降到最低這是我們應該要做的好那我請我們內政部針對我們未來的選舉這個網路的信息不正確的信息我們要怎樣來做處理 |
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好 謝謝委員的指教我想那個選舉期間的時候因為如果是公職人員選罷就依照公職選罷的相關規定如果一旦有這種網路或是AI 聲委等等的那目前來講的話我們都是說只要是警察機關我們這邊去依照他的鑑識結果我們會要求業者在兩天內就要下架然後限制瀏覽跟移除那另外就是說也跟委員報告 |
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像这种的话我们不管在总统选办法或者是公职人员选办法其实都有谈到有散播播放 |
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然後讓候選人因為譬如說身為影像等等而犯選舉誹謗那這個是照規定是七年以下的徒刑而且還可以如果是意圖盈利還可以加重其二分之一那我想在這個部分其實我們目前包括公民的素養我們這邊也都是有來透過希望有教育跟宣導來讓民眾有思辨能力那也把這個相關的法令規定都會跟大家講那我想剛談到像這種 |
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選舉然後藉由網路的那這個部分其實我們警察機關就是剛剛國安局有談到我們相關的部會其實都有在共同來做一個追蹤跟處理 |
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好的 因為現在已經是AI時代你早期五六年前那時候反滲透法的條文 修正條文那時候AI還不是那麼盛行那現在這幾年是AI的竄起那以後我們AI的辨識這應該是重中之重是 好 謝謝 |