| IVOD_ID |
167054 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167054 |
| 日期 |
2026-01-12 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-36-18 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期司法及法制委員會第18次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
18 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期司法及法制委員會第18次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-01-12T11:45:43+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-01-12T11:52:33+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:50 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/3ab52049cf0a1ce0fbcfae9b60a41f7ae6ea9f55fbd6b8757fca8e6801c49bdd3d33e1e9d2057dc95ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:45:43 - 11:52:33 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-01-12T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期司法及法制委員會第18次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請考試院秘書長、銓敘部部長、行政院人事行政總處人事長、內政部、教育部、行政院主計總處針對「立法院通過之警、消、公、教退休金改革法案之具體執行措施」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
二、繼續併案審查
（ㄧ）委員陳培瑜等16人擬具「刑事訴訟法第一百零一條之一條文修正草案」案。
（二）台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「刑事訴訟法第一百零一條之一條文修正草案」案。
（三）委員吳宗憲等22人擬具「刑事訴訟法第一百零一條之一條文修正草案」案。
三、審查委員吳宗憲等17人擬具「刑事訴訟法第四百零四條條文修正草案」案。
四、審查台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「刑事訴訟法第九十三條及第一百零一條條文修正草案」案。
五、併案審查
（一）委員翁曉玲等20人擬具「刑事訴訟法第一百零八條條文修正草案」案。
（二）委員林倩綺等21人擬具「刑事訴訟法第一百零八條條文修正草案」案。） |
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跟鄭委員提醒因為非本委員會的委員4分鐘好 謝謝好 謝謝請秘書長還有部長張副人事長委員完 |
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好 這個有關警察人員人事條例這個其實本席107年就質詢當時的前序部部長也就是現在的考試院院長 |
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他都同意因為警消跟一般的公務人員真的是不一樣所以警察人員的這個警消的這些退休服這些退服規定這個要定在這個警察人員人事條例終於拖了很久 |
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公布施行了這個警察人員人事條例的修正條文在去年的4月25號公布施行公布施行之後也已經生效了生效這個按照這個考試院的報告你們做了相關的這些很辛苦的來去審定也做了一個完成的審定 |
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那現在執行面的部分要怎麼接下來已經審定了所以來回憶委員因為這個牽涉到行政院的預算前所以這個部分考試院已經把這個部分的工作完成了那接下來就是預算的問題這個要請這個考試院 前序部還有人事行政總署 |
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要去跟左院長報告或協調當然就考試院來講要去協調已經審定公佈施行就尤其是考試院或者是人事行政總書而言依法行政公佈生效有效的法例這個部分真的是一個需要我們好好的去溝通協調的部分 |
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好我們看這個公務人員退休之前撫恤法的修正114年12月26號總統公佈施行這個我們卓榮泰院長也附屬了附屬表示同意對不對就附屬了然後現在情緒部的報告也說114年12月28號 |
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公布施行之後生效生效這個考試院的報告卻因為說這個將使退府基金提前用盡意思本院難以順遂推行推行使基金永續之法定限定執掌因此本院已向憲法法庭提出釋憲及暫時處分之申請 |
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這個如果用這樣的那個理由用這個理由因為退伏基金會提前用盡用這個理由這個理由真的是很牽強用這個理由真的是很牽強那是一個財政另外一個問題這個秘書長一直要回應 |
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這是跟委員報告說 財政問題很嚴重 這個牽涉到後面年輕世代的權益這個部分不能因為這個理由來去釋憲好 我們再回顧 我已經講了很多次了 你也聽了很多次了 |
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国家年金改革委员会是蔡英文总统成立的由陈建仁当时的副总统主持召开跨院跨专业专家写者开了20次的会议然后由考试院提出了公务院退休之前符系法的版本结果立法院 |
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當時立法院民進黨記憶絕對多數對不對考試院的版本是小砍立法院把它大砍我上次沒有機會跟您說明因為那時候你已經離開了我要修正一個可能您的記憶年金改革委員會提出的版本跟考試院後來提出的版本不一樣 |
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考試院砍得比較少年改會的決議那個社會討論二十多次還有說明會等等那個程序出來的決議是後來的應該是當時行政院提出的版本行政院提出的教育人員版本是依照那個年改會的決議 |
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那民進黨黨團提了一個版本那民進黨還有當時還有別的國會議員還有提出各種修正版本只是我要講的是說考試院不是照年改會的決議去提版本的好不管怎麼樣啊都是砍小砍大砍而現在是停砍立法院是停砍 |
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所以你要用這個做理由是事先的做理由真的是最主最重要的最重要的因為軍公教本來就要依法行政然後考試院行政院要帶頭不依法行政然後用這個是財政的是另外一個財政的問題就像勞保對不對還有財政的問題 |
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也有財政的問題所以這個另外一個制度的問題好不好這個部分是一個需要審慎的一邊釋憲一邊也會依法來執行以上 謝謝 |