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IVOD_ID 16703
IVOD_URL https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/16703
日期 2025-05-23
會議資料.會議代碼 院會-11-3-13
會議資料.會議代碼:str 第11屆第3會期第13次會議
會議資料.屆 11
會議資料.會期 3
會議資料.會次 13
會議資料.種類 院會
會議資料.標題 第11屆第3會期第13次會議
影片種類 Full
開始時間 2025-05-23T08:30:30+08:00
結束時間 2025-05-23T17:13:00+08:00
影片長度 08:42:30
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會議時間 2025-05-23T09:00:00+08:00
會議名稱 第11屆第3會期第13次會議(事由:一、討論事項:本院國民黨黨團,針對第11屆第3會期第9次會議報告事項第2案「總統咨,為司法院大法官含院長、副院長,現有缺額7名,茲依據中華民國憲法增修條文第5條規定,提名蔡秋明、蘇素娥、蕭文生、鄭純惠、林麗瑩、陳慈陽、詹鎮榮7位為司法院大法官,並以蔡秋明為院長、蘇素娥為副院長,咨請同意案。」院會所作之決定提出復議。是否有當?請公決案等18案。二、5月23日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。三、5月27日下午5時至6時為處理臨時提案時間。)
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transcript.whisperx[0].text 好 吳宗憲委員請
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transcript.whisperx[1].text 主席 各位國人 各位立委同仁 大家早安我今天是要譴責總統府因為總統府竟然是跟著民進黨在造謠沒錯 總統府在造謠
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transcript.whisperx[2].text 竟然說藍白凍結預算會導致總統府的憲兵沒有飯吃就是總統府的憲兵211營會空腹值班事實上這些軍人的伙食費其實他的預算是在國防部他跟總統府完全沒有關係且一毛都沒有刪
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transcript.whisperx[3].text 民進黨跟總統府一直在外面造謠說藍白爛三預算如果真有爛三預算的話他拿到的應該是史上最低的預算那為什麼他卻拿到史上最高的預算那當這個賴政府在拿到史上最高的2.9億預算的時候比蔡英文時代多很多勸在外面告訴大家
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transcript.whisperx[4].text 沒有錢繳水電費沒有錢買衛生紙那士兵沒有錢吃飯要餓著肚子值班那欺騙國人說他沒有錢沒有辦法執政然後呢被內部的公務員踢爆說原來啊這些很多解凍案的
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transcript.whisperx[5].text 資料都寫好了但是上級交代不可以送出解凍案一直到上個月底才一次送出1584件解凍案這個禮拜三我也非常誠意的我們安排了總統府以及國安會的解凍案結果總統府秘書長潘秘書長也不來
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transcript.whisperx[6].text 如果真的有藥物沒有辦法來當時我也說了你來一個小時就好我們會是好幾個小時你來一個小時就好他也不願意那我說我可以為了你哪一天有空晚上12點也可以任何一天我排給你來他也不願意所以呢這絕對不是另有藥物而是他就是不想來所以是名義於無物
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transcript.whisperx[7].text 好 那國安會秘書長吳釗燮更誇張他曾經當過民進黨的秘書長 總統府的秘書長 國安會的秘書長結果呢 現在民進黨裡面府 院 黨充斥著共諜 滿滿的共諜 竊取機密我們希望他到立法院來講 來報告 他也死都不願意
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transcript.whisperx[8].text 那我們跟他說國安會組織法第八條明明說得很清楚他要對立法院負責他還是不來他只跟我講了一句叫做憲政慣例我問他是憲政的哪一條他也講不出來那我跟他說過往國安會秘書長也會到立法院也有記錄告訴了他他還是不來那多次請他來他不來就是不來
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transcript.whisperx[9].text 好那這就是民進黨的官我剛跟各位報告這兩位秘書長這就是民進黨的官這就是民進黨的官這就是民進黨的官這些官啊什麼都他在講我希望啦總統真的能夠像520所說的政黨要合作不要到現在講一套做一套謝謝各位好謝謝吳宗憲委員的發言接下來我們請林佩祥委員發言黃仁委員請準備
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transcript.whisperx[10].text 主席 各位委員 大家早身為基隆市的立法委員我今天要嚴正指出一件讓人極度遺憾的事行政院最近通知基隆市政府將篩檢超過24億的一般性補助
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transcript.whisperx[11].text 減幅超過四分之一這筆錢是什麼根據中央對直轄跟縣市的補助辦法第三條一般性補助主要用於教育社會福利基本設施等支出攸關基層民眾的日常福祉
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transcript.whisperx[12].text 是保障城市運作的基本命脈而現在中央一句話就要砍掉超過四分之一對於基隆 對於所有中小城市都是非常沉重的財政打擊
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transcript.whisperx[13].text 我要提醒行政院根據財政收支劃分法第30條中央給予地方的一般性補助金額不得少於前年度的編列數去年是87.46億今年上看起來像是88.7億但事實上是先編後砍已經違反法定原則
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transcript.whisperx[14].text 更讓人無法接受的是主計處還建議各地方政府自己去舉債明明中央手上有錢卻扣住不發還叫地方去借錢去背債去扛利息請問這是什麼邏輯這是什麼心態這不是協助地方這是在懲罰所有的國人這更證明了財政收支劃分法的修法的必要性各位委員
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transcript.whisperx[15].text 這樣的操作對於六都以外本來就財政吃緊的中小縣市是種極大的壓迫逼地方舉債製造自治再回來抹黑說你們財政無能這不是治理 這叫政治鬥爭後來就造謠是因為藍白山預算讓基隆人領不到補助這跟那些霸團宣傳的事情一模一樣根本就是變相助攻大罷免
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transcript.whisperx[16].text 騙貴賣吃醉法定預算是不能刪除的更何況主計總署要拿哪一條條文來去決定可以挪用地方救命錢來補刪掉的預算民進黨不但只透過霸團來分裂基隆更用預算來綁架霸凌基隆人
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transcript.whisperx[17].text 民進黨政府現在連演都不演了預算成了鬥爭的工具連教育 社福 建設的錢都可以拿來操作我必須在這邊要清楚說明白你們不是在懲罰國民黨也不是在針對哪一位首長是在造立製造全民的對立嘴巴喊著團結一方面製造全民的對立你們是在懲罰全體國民是在剝奪孩子的受教權長者的照顧權跟市民的基本權益
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transcript.whisperx[18].text 身為基隆市選出來的立法委員 我不會沉默對於這種操作 我們不會退讓 不會妥協我們會據理力爭 幫地方 幫民眾探有所有的資源謝謝大家
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transcript.whisperx[19].text 謝謝主席 各位全國的人民
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transcript.whisperx[20].text 今天用人民的肺供養了民進黨的神主牌那5月18號是台灣非核加鹽正式邁入新的階段的第一天這一天本應象徵捷徑能演的開始但是卻由一組驚人的數據揭開了序幕台電的官網顯示火力發電占比高達96%再生能源僅有4.38%這不是
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transcript.whisperx[21].text 這不僅是一場能源結構的警訊更是一場空氣與健康的危機台中火力發電廠在河山廠二號機組除役後九部機組接近九成運轉其他的大潭、興達等
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transcript.whisperx[22].text 燃气机组亦紧张的补位那数据显示台湾在夏季高温时刻几乎是全面用废发电那赖政府的对外宣称火力发电占比84%但实际真相是占比96%现在执政党不顾民众的死活请全国的人民看清楚
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transcript.whisperx[23].text 不顾台中市民及环保团体的激烈抗议环境部乃火速通过台中电厂第二期新建燃气基础计划环平案台中电厂因而将成为全球最大的火力发电厂
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transcript.whisperx[24].text 那連中部民眾繼續用廢發電這種違反環保潮流無視人民健康的能源的政策充分反映出民進黨政府這個責錯固執的一個囂張霸道人民怎麼不再發出怒紅活力發電廠
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transcript.whisperx[25].text 集中其再生能源的发展的迟缓造成某些城市以乡镇承担过度的发电压力以空气污染的风险许多火力基础所在地如台中林口新达及通宵往往成了能源政策背后的沉默的地区这些地
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transcript.whisperx[26].text 地方居民没有享受到能源产业带来的红利却长期承受着空气污染的健康威胁与生活品质下降的困扰所以我们不能再用供电稳定作为牺牲空气的健康的借口气候变迁以B线临界点空污以能源为基早已不是环保议题
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transcript.whisperx[27].text 而是下一代的一個生存的問題所以本席建議五個建議第一 建立獨立空屋檢測以公平的平台第二 落實地方健康風險評估第三 發電資訊經需要第三方的查核認證第四 推動火力發電
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transcript.whisperx[28].text 谢谢黄文伟的发言接下来请杨琼伟发言陈冠廷委员请准备
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transcript.whisperx[29].text 楊瓊瑜發言 敬愛的院會主席韓院長 各位新聞界的朋友今天本席要說的是道安補破網 課不容緩學區安全措施先上路因為三峽老翁照顧事件讓學童跟家長
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transcript.whisperx[30].text 史上引起了社会的一个震惊那我在这边要特别的呼吁政府除了尽数厘清原因之外包括了高龄驾驶的评估机制要怎么样来建制还有行辆安全的防护或者是向反日本在长者的车辆装置了防爆冲的装置防撞的一个辅导系统都应该尽数的去研议去评估
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transcript.whisperx[31].text 行人遭受到這個撞擊的事件是不斷的在發生更顯示了我們整個道安的安全捕破網的時刻是可以說是應該刻不容緩本期長期的主張就是道安跟孩子們的通學安全絕對是大人跟政府的責任不管最後的調查結果是如何
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transcript.whisperx[32].text 學區安全的措施都應該要先上路別再像過去只有空談只有喊喊沒有方案進度更是拖拖拉拉那麼不管是學界或者是民間團體早已經從道路的設計加重惡性違法駕駛的刑責以及道案的教育交通法規等都提出了建言我認為在龐大建制的改革還不能一觸可及的現在
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transcript.whisperx[33].text 學童的學區安全措施以及學區的通學步道學校周邊限速30公里還有行人保護實體的措施讓車輛在這個範圍內能夠減速的設計都應該優先來做下一代的安全是良善治理的KPI
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transcript.whisperx[34].text 學童也是最脆弱最需要保護的用路人我在台中持續的推動多個學校周邊同學的步道工程人行環境跟停等接送區的改善如果中央跟地方大家一起協力設置專制的考核標準相信一定更能夠有效能我多次的針對學區限速30公里的質詢
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transcript.whisperx[35].text 韓國在推行學區限速事故的數量讓我們看到大幅的下降我們台灣在2018年就喊出要做但是七年來也就是成效都達不到三成我們看不到政府的一個決心所以我特別在這邊呼籲也在這個月初我跟交通部達成了一個共識
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transcript.whisperx[36].text 未來學區校區的安全作為道安的一個KPI的一個考核目標我們希望期許記取教訓憾事不要再發生中央政府動起來明代大家一起我在這邊呼籲大家一起共同的關心讓小朋友的一個每一步謝謝楊廷宇委員發言接下來我們請陳冠廷委員發言麥玉珍委員請準備
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transcript.whisperx[37].text 主席各位同仁大家好從去年上任不久我就持續關注來推動調整老農津貼的門檻的議題其實老農津貼從我們嘉義縣的蔡氏淵委員他來提出來之後到現在也運行了數十年
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transcript.whisperx[38].text 那他對台灣來講對我們的農民來講是他們的經濟安全然後能夠跟上社會的脈動那大家都知道台灣經濟能夠有今天的發展農業是我們的根本所以我提案主張第一個老農津貼他的調整週期過去是四年才調整一次我們主張未來要縮短兩年就必須要調整一次
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transcript.whisperx[39].text 那這樣子的調整可以來去因應我們最新的這個消費者物價指數那給他們最及時最有感的保障那第二個部分那就是有很多鄉親不斷的在提到的排付條款那關於不動產價值認定過時標準其實走到今天房地產價格跟物價指數跟過去已經不可同日而語原有的五百萬的門檻已經不合時宜因此我主張提高到新台幣八百萬
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transcript.whisperx[40].text 這樣才能夠避免因為不動產的價格來非自願上漲反而讓我們這些辛苦的農民朋友被不合理的排除在這個福利之外我很高興看到不僅僅是我本人那包含本黨的郭國文委員林俊賢委員都有在去推動相關的議題
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transcript.whisperx[41].text 就在昨天他們大力的呼籲保障農民權益老農今天的牌付條款他必須與時俱進我想這些周詳的考量都非常值得去肯定那也顯示我們立法院的同仁對農民的福祉有共同的關懷所以我懇請
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transcript.whisperx[42].text 願會支持我們提出來的修正草案不管是我的草案或者是其他這個相關把這個排布條款來進行調整把這個因應物價指數來進行調整的條款能夠積極回應讓我們的這個台灣的老人能夠有一個更有尊嚴更安心的晚年生活
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transcript.whisperx[43].text 那最後我必須要提到現在這個剛才幾位委員有提到的這個關於交通的安全的部分我們認為不管是在哪一個車輛如果能夠安裝這個先進駕駛的輔助系統我想這包含車商都必須要納入考量他能夠主動被動來去把我們的安全性增加那在一些比較重要的道路也好或者是在通學的環境下也能夠提供更安全的環境謝謝大家
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transcript.whisperx[44].text 谢谢陈冠廷委员的发言接下来我们请麦玉珍委员发言陈金威委员请准备
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transcript.whisperx[45].text 主席各位親愛的家人大家好民進黨一直推的非核家園現在終於把核三廠二號基礎易把台灣推進無核時代但台灣根本就還沒準備好民進黨本來承諾2025年再生能源要達到20%結果呢
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transcript.whisperx[46].text 估比只有14.6%現在火力發電佔了全台供電的84%其中燃煤就佔了快4成我們的空氣變好了嗎電價穩了嗎供電更安全了嗎沒有全部沒有民進黨能源轉型大話柄大失敗人民還要為民進黨的錯誤政策
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transcript.whisperx[47].text 付出代价多久火力全开谁来吸收这些废气谁的孩子在过敏气喘鼻炎中长大
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transcript.whisperx[48].text 台中人早就不相信空污有改善这种话术了因为每天出门都活在严重的空污底下民进党搞能源政策不是科学的优先是意识形态挂帅不管现实无视民调
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transcript.whisperx[49].text 七成民意之时何能言义你们还要继续假装听不到吗不敢面对失败就一直说这是进步这是价值那请问台电4200亿的亏损是什么价值费里面吸金区的PM2.5又是哪种进步
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transcript.whisperx[50].text 台灣民眾黨提出河山研議公投就是希望這件事不是由少數人拍板而是讓人民完全做主我們要的是有能力有誠信的能源規劃是穩定電價不是讓下一代繼續還債繼續生病我們不會讓這種錯誤政策繼續走下去
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transcript.whisperx[51].text 臺灣民眾黨會站在第一線要求沿河要求沿域河山停止火力擴張給臺電一個活路給人民一口乾淨的空氣這就是我們對臺灣未來的責任臺灣加油 臺中加油 謝謝大家好 謝謝麥玉珍委員的發言
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transcript.whisperx[52].text 麥委員好 接下來我們請陳金威委員發言
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transcript.whisperx[53].text 主席各位委員還有媒體朋友大家早安上週我在這個台上站了三分鐘絞盡腦汁幫賴清德總統回顧他這一年來到底有什麼豐功偉業有什麼福國利民的政績很遺憾真的想不到
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transcript.whisperx[54].text 有些青鳥飛出來罵我說浪費三分鐘我只想說那你怎麼不去罵賴清德浪費全台灣人民一整年總共是52萬5600分鐘呢
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transcript.whisperx[55].text 話說回來賴清德這一年到底在做什麼這個問題啊我猜連民進黨自己人都不太清楚反而是現在全台灣推動大罷免的領銜人最清楚賴清德在做什麼
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transcript.whisperx[56].text 所以賴清德可以因為國政繁忙不方便出席市狀運的開幕式但是絕對有空跟霸團的領銜人們開會而且不止一次是常常跟霸團領銜人開會我們偉大的賴總統像個痴情的男子漢靜靜的傾聽含情莫莫的注視個美味霸團領銜人
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transcript.whisperx[57].text 筆記哪一位市議員還沒有配合連署這個一年領我們國人納稅前六百萬的總統竟然可以不務正業到這種地步
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transcript.whisperx[59].text 賴清德可以提出史上最高的總預算案還是繼續哭窮甚至砍地方的錢說自己沒辦法做事但賴神是沒錯的賴清德可以身邊出現共諜但是總統有神功護體所以他刀槍不入賴神是對的
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transcript.whisperx[60].text 賴清德可以不滿意度創新高可是錯的是民調錯的是民意誰不愛總統誰就是中共同路人所以賴神還是對的最後我想要為我上禮拜說賴清德一整年都沒做事道歉因為他是賴神他沒做正事也沒關係請全國的人民一定要體諒
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transcript.whisperx[62].text 來 現在我們報告院會 我們繼續開會 請祕書長報告出席人數報告院會出席委員92人 已足法定人數我們現在開會進行報告事項 請祕書長宣讀第三會期 第十二次會議意思錄
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transcript.whisperx[63].text 宣讀立法院第十一屆第三會議第十二次會議事務時間中華民國114年5月16日上午9時至9時20分10時至12時20分下午2時30分至5時11分5月20日上午9時13分至12時13分下午2時30分至6時20分地點本院議場出席委員張委員齊凱等113年出席院長
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transcript.whisperx[64].text 主席、院長、韓國瑜、副院長、江啟臣報告事項第一案宣讀本院第十一屆第三會期第十一次會議議事錄決定確定
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transcript.whisperx[65].text 第二至三十五、三十七至四十二、四十四至四十七、四十九至五十五、五十七至六十三、六十五、六十六、六十八至五百七十八案均決定交互相關委員會審查、處理或交互相關委員會第三十六、四十三、四十八、五十六、六十四案均決定經貿獨與相關提案、並案協商第六十七案決定同意策違
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transcript.whisperx[66].text 第579、580案為社會福利及衛生環境委員會所提出報告案執行事項假行政院答案部分一件以緬孽委員執行部分一件討論事項第一案決議交互黨團協商第二至四案均決議通過第五案決議定定其處理其他事項一、114年5月15日朝野黨團協商結論共奧見二、國民黨黨團提議變更議程八案均予以通過宣讀完畢
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transcript.whisperx[67].text 報告委員會針對第三會期第十二次會議議事錄並沒有委員或黨團提出遺漏或錯誤之處我們現在做以下決定第三會期第十二次會議議事錄確定報告委員會現在在議場二樓旁聽的來自新竹市我們竹光國中未來的主人翁同學們歡迎你們我們現在請宣讀第二案
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transcript.whisperx[68].text 全院會議無異通過下議案
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transcript.whisperx[69].text 第三案 北部委員林黛嬅等19人離聚 地方民意代表費用之極及村里長事務補助條例第七 事務補助費補助條例第七條之一條務修正草案 陳書永會監交內政委員會審查 宣言完畢第四案 北部委員邱盈儀等20人離聚 人工智慧基本法草案 陳書永會監交教育及文化交通兩務委員會審查 宣言完畢
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transcript.whisperx[70].text 第五案 本院委員蔡易宇等學習人離去外國專業人才延攬及僱傭法修正草案財修委員會建交經濟社會福利及物質環境教育及文化三務委員會審查 宣言為通過效應第六案 本院委員楊瓊英等二學生離去住宅法第四條條務修正草案財修委員會建交內政委員會審查 宣言為通過效應
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transcript.whisperx[71].text 第七案 本院委員楊重英的二十四人女聚衛生福利部警病管制署組織法第二條條文修正常案柴旭委員會監教司法及法治社會福利系務成本環境兩委員會審查 宣言完畢第八案 本院委員楊重英的二十七人女聚就業服務法第二十四條條文修正常案
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transcript.whisperx[72].text 陳書岩會監教社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查 確定完畢第九案 本院委員楊松英等二十七人凝聚就業服務法第五十二條條文修正常案陳書岩會監教社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查 確定完畢第十案 本院委員魯明哲等十七人凝聚運動財權發行條例第二條條文修正常案陳書岩會監教教育及文化財政兩委員會審查 確定完畢第十一案 本院委員魯明哲等十八人凝聚學校衛生法第十六條條文修正常案
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transcript.whisperx[73].text 第十三案第十三案第十三案
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transcript.whisperx[74].text 第十四案第十五案第十六案第十六案
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transcript.whisperx[75].text 第十七案第十八案未通過下一案
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transcript.whisperx[76].text 第十九案 北部友誼業員職等隨幫人離去 軍人待遇條例第五條條文修正草案 強修委員會兼江湖交警國防司法啟發制 聯務委員會審查 宣言完畢報告事項第十九案現有國民黨黨團體禁服二讀與相關提案並案協商請問院會有無異議沒有異議本案禁服二讀與相關提案並案協商 下一項
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transcript.whisperx[77].text 第20案本院委員會議員職等18日連續中華民國新法第286條條文修正草案請修研會監教司法及法徵人員會審查宣讀完畢第21案本院委員會議員職等18日連續國產海洋科技營運中心設置料理草案請修研會監教司法及法徵人員會審查宣讀完畢
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transcript.whisperx[78].text 第二十二案 本委員員汪小玲的二十三人凝聚職業安全衛生法第35條第39條及第49條談判修正草案陳書仁會監教社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查 宣傳畢第二十三案 本委員員汪小玲的二十四人凝聚兒童及少年福利與權益保障法第16條談判修正草案陳書仁會監教社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查 宣傳畢第二十四案 本委員員離婚生的二十五人凝聚兒童托育服務法草案陳書仁會監教社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查
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transcript.whisperx[79].text 第二十五案第二十六案第二十六案第二十五案第二十六案
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transcript.whisperx[80].text 報告議員會報告四項第26案現有國民黨黨團體禁服二讀與相關提案並案協商請問議員會有無異議沒有異議本案禁服二讀與相關提案並案協商下議案第二十七案北部委員廖偉祥同學六人離聚均然待遇條例第五條條維修宣查案強修議員會見教會交警國防司法司法局兩委員會審查訓練完畢
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transcript.whisperx[81].text 法院會報告事項第二十七案現有國民黨黨團提議禁服二讀與相關提案並案協商請院會有異議面議本案禁服二讀與相關提案並案協商下一項第二十八案本院委員廖偉祥則是六人離去軍人待遇條例第六條條文修正常案詳修委員會兼教官交給國防司法司法局兩委員會審查宣讀為畢
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transcript.whisperx[82].text 抱怨會報告事項第28案現由國民黨團體本案禁覆二讀與相關提案並案協商請議員會有異議本案禁覆二讀與相關提案並案協商下議案第29案本議員梁偉祥的16人一句外國專業人才野蘭及公用法第14條條修正草案請議員會監教經濟社會福利及衛生環境教育及文化生物委員會審查宣傳完畢抱怨會
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transcript.whisperx[83].text 包括事項第29案現有國民黨團體禁服二讀與相關提案並案協商請院會有異議願意本案禁服二讀與相關提案並案協商下議案
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transcript.whisperx[84].text 第三十一案衛通過下一案衛通過下一案
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transcript.whisperx[85].text 衛通過下言衛通過下言
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transcript.whisperx[86].text 第34案 北域委員廖偉昌的16人被廢止 行政院農業委員會農業金融局組織條例陳書岩會監教司法及法治經濟 兩委員會審查 宣言完畢委員通過 下議案第35案 北域委員邱振俊的23人凝聚 青年基本保藏案陳書岩會監教救濟 文化委員會審查 宣言完畢委員通過 下議案
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transcript.whisperx[87].text 第36案 本院委員邱振均的24人凝聚社會救助法第5條12條維修正常案財修委員會建交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查 宣讀完畢無疑通過 下一案第37案 本院委員邱振均的25人凝聚長期照顧保險防藏案財修委員會建交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查 宣讀完畢無疑通過 下一案第38案 本院委員鄭振賢的29人凝聚動物保護法第32條條維修正常案財修委員會建交經濟委員會審查 宣讀完畢無疑通過 下一
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transcript.whisperx[88].text 第39案 本院委員陣陣顯得有10人離聚 環境基本法第53條條文修正常案 財修委員會監交社會福利及物資環境委員會審查 宣言完畢第40案 本院委員陣陣顯得有10人離聚 氣候邊界因應法第2條第5條及第8條條文修正常案 財修委員會監交社會福利及物資環境經濟財政內政交通交通及文化利務委員會審查宣言完畢
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transcript.whisperx[89].text 無疑通過下議案無疑通過下議案無疑通過下議案
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transcript.whisperx[90].text 無意通過報怨會現在在一場二樓旁聽來自新竹縣瓊林鄉婦女會的所有的好朋友們我們掌聲歡迎
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transcript.whisperx[104].text 第七十五案第七十六案無以通過下言無以通過下言
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transcript.whisperx[107].text 第八宣案本月元旺美会的19人离聚儿童同意服务法草案申请委员会建交社会福利机构审环境委会审查宣传完毕无疑通过下一案第八宣案本月元旺美会的18人离聚儿童同意服务法草案申请委员会建交社会福利机构审环境委会审查宣传完毕无疑通过下一案
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transcript.whisperx[116].text 第一零二案第一零二案無疑通過 下議案無疑通過 下議案
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transcript.whisperx[117].text 第103案第104案第105案第106案第107案
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transcript.whisperx[119].text 第108案 勞動部橫送財團法人職業災害預防及重建中心113年度決算書案 陳書瑩會監教社會福利及優先環境委員會審查 宣傳完畢第109案 國家科學及技術委員會橫送財團法人國家實驗研究院及財團法人國家同步服務社研究中心113年度決算書案 陳書瑩會監教教育及文化委員會審查 宣傳完畢
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transcript.whisperx[121].text 無異通過下議案無異通過下議案無異通過下議案
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transcript.whisperx[123].text 第117案 內政部國防部海維修陣替代役能服役前面後召集附近實施辦法部分條文 裁判委員會監教內政外交及國防兩委員會 宣傳完畢無異通過 下一案第118案 國防部海維修陣陸海軍軍官士官志願留營入營徵選服役規則第6條條文 裁判委員會監教外交及國防委員會 宣傳完畢無異通過 下一案
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transcript.whisperx[124].text 第一二零二第一二零二第一二零二
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transcript.whisperx[127].text 第一頁五案 農業部海域修正公告美國密西西比州自高避免性價錢流行性感冒肺疫區刪除才順應會見交經濟委員會 宣布完畢第一頁六案 農業部海域修正公告加拿大亞布達省 薩克齊萬省曼尼托巴省 新布蘭斯文省及美國華盛頓州 愛達河州 田奈西州內布拉斯加州為高避免性價錢流行性感冒肺疫區才順應會見交經濟委員會 宣布完畢第一頁五案 農業部海域修正公告
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transcript.whisperx[128].text 委員通過 下議案委員通過 下議案
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transcript.whisperx[129].text 第一案 九案 經濟武漢中台階從業和產業發展合作變化路 雙方淪陷英文 日本 英本及中英本 財政委員會建交經濟文教警方 兩位委員會 宣布完畢第一案 三案 財政部海外修正即將設計 計算及報稅代理人 防止洗錢與打擊 滋控本法部分條文 財政委員會建交財政委員會 宣布完畢
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transcript.whisperx[130].text 第3個案第3個案未通過 下一案未通過 下一案
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transcript.whisperx[131].text 無疑通過 下一項
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transcript.whisperx[132].text 第一三四案金融監督管理委會 韓文修正專研電子支付機構內部控制及金融制度實施辦法第十七條第三十六條之一及第四十二條條文採訪委員會監教採訪委員會宣布完畢第一三五案金融監督管理委會 韓文修正證券發行人參與報告編制選擇第十七條第三十一條條文及第十九條格式五之一至五之六五之九五之十二採訪委員會監教採訪委員會宣布完畢
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transcript.whisperx[133].text 第36案吴浩默海卫修宪国家人权博物馆藏匿图像影音资料使用收费标准第3条付表全书院会见教教以及文化园会宣传完毕无疑通过宣言
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transcript.whisperx[134].text 第一三期案文化部海外修正全国性文化事物产业发展会计处理及财务报告编辑选择部分条文陈书莹会见交教育界文化委员会宣传完毕第一三半案文化部横送台南国家美术馆筹备处暂行组织完成台南国家美术馆筹备处办讯息则及台南国家美术馆筹备处编辑表陈书莹会见交司法计划局教育界文化联络委员会宣传完毕无意通过下一案
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transcript.whisperx[136].text 第一次议案树叶发展部航运废纸和马克西服务管理办法及平等接触服务管理办法甲书研会兼交交通委员会宣布完毕第一次议案海洋委员会航运修正海洋委员会海水鼠编制表及海洋委员会海水鼠舰队分鼠编制表并自一百十三年八月十一日生效甲书研会兼交司法执法之内转两委员会宣布完毕第一次议案
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transcript.whisperx[137].text 第一四三案 環境不寒送事業硬盤查得錄 溫水氣體排放量追排放源 甲醛氧會建交社會福利及衛生環境委員會 宣讀完畢抱怨會 第一百四三案由國民黨團體改交審查 本案交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查 下一案
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transcript.whisperx[138].text 第144 照案通過 下一案
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transcript.whisperx[139].text 第一四五案 衛生福利部海維修正全民健康保險業務請附項目擊之附標準功能擬定辦法第四條及第六條條文採取委員會兼交社會福利及衛生環境委員會宣言完畢報告委員會本案一百四十五案由國民黨團提議改交審查本案交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查下一案第一四六案 衛生福利部海維修正出國植物類果醬和果凍食品中重金屬檢驗方法
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transcript.whisperx[140].text 委員通過下言委員通過下言委員通過下言
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transcript.whisperx[141].text 五一通過 下議案五一通過 下議案五一通過 下議案
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transcript.whisperx[142].text 第一五二案衛生福利部罕為廢止食品中殘留農藥檢驗方法診針劑
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transcript.whisperx[143].text 五一通过下牙五一通过下牙五一通过下牙
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transcript.whisperx[144].text 第一五五案 衛生福利部海外廢止食品中殘留農藥檢驗方法 刷門劑 大蓋門珠檢驗二 柴修園會監教社會福利及衛生環境委員會 宣言完畢第一五六案 衛生福利部海外修正食品天線規格檢驗方法 使用紅色40號鋁鋁機柴修園會監教社會福利及衛生環境委員會 宣言完畢第一五七案 衛生福利部海外修正食品中動物用藥殘留量檢驗方法
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transcript.whisperx[145].text 文藝通過,下演文藝通過,下演
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transcript.whisperx[146].text 第159案 衛生福利母海維修證食品添加物個個檢驗方法使用紅色型號鋁力機裁縮員會建交社會福利及衛生環境委員會宣布完畢第160案 衛生福利母海維修證食品添加物個個檢驗方法咖啡因裁縮員會建交社會福利及衛生環境委員會宣布完畢第161案 勞動母海維修證就業保險事業者出現協助辦法裁縮員會建交社會福利及衛生環境委員會宣布完畢
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transcript.whisperx[147].text 一六一
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transcript.whisperx[148].text 抱怨會第162案至373案請依序宣讀其中第162 164至166 174 176 204 205 221 230 232 233 238 到242 325 339 372案臺灣民眾黨黨團體改交審查宣讀之後
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transcript.whisperx[150].text 第1.6 任職第6期內宣布第1.6 法案 職第1期 國防部第1期 任職第1.3 國軍退出跟輔導委員會第1.7 任職第2.3 經濟部第2.3 任職第2.5 農業部第2.5 任職第2 財政部第2.8 任職第2.8 金融監督管理委員會
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transcript.whisperx[152].text 第368案 具體370案 司法院第371案 數位發展部第372案 財政部第373案 國家發展委員會判為113年度中央政府總預算附屬單位預算權益114年度中央政府總預算的預算權益分別檢送相關報告宣讀完畢法院會第374案宣讀之後 照程序委員會意見通過第375案以下請一併宣讀宣讀後均准予被查請宣讀
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transcript.whisperx[153].text 第三期四案本院交通委員會還為院會將負審查委員吳宗憲的17人委員賴志寶的18人委員楊松英等26人分別凝聚人工智慧基本法草案及台灣民眾黨黨的凝聚人工智慧發展及管理條例草案等四案盡情改交交易前後交通兩委會審查
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transcript.whisperx[156].text 官員會我們報告事項均已經處理完畢針對後續議程所有的進行事宜我們請所有黨團幹部在10點40分到主席休息室我們繼續進行溝通 現在休息
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transcript.whisperx[158].text 本院台灣民眾黨黨團針對第11屆第三會及第13次會議議事成討論事項提議僅限列如附表6案是否由黨進行公決宣讀完畢請問院會對本案有無異議沒有異議好本案照案通過歡迎會我們現在進行處理國民黨團提變更議程進行第一案請議事人員宣讀題內容
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transcript.whisperx[160].text 本月民進黨黨團 擬請議員會將憲政院韓系選議獲稅條例第十一條之一條為修正草案委員陳俊宇的二選人凝聚獲稅條例第十一條之一條為修正草案案制裁將委會抽出金複二讀與相關提案並安閒商宣讀完畢請問議員會對本案有無異議
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transcript.whisperx[162].text 法院會變更議程已經處理完畢依照黨團共事今天院會處理至討論事項第二案完畢之後休息討論事項第二案定於今天下午五點進行表決我們現在開始處理討論事項第一案
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transcript.whisperx[164].text 總統、副總統選舉罷免法第十三條條文修正草案自委員會抽出進覆二讀由黨團負責召集協商這決定提出復議請公決案本案經第三會期第十二次會議決議令定期處理我們現在進行處理
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transcript.whisperx[165].text 現在依照登記發言的順序本案沒有委員登記發言我們就不再發言求院會針對民進黨黨團所提復議案有無異議有異議我們要進行表決現在按鈴七分鐘請議場人員分發表決卡
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transcript.whisperx[167].text 贊成民進黨黨團所提復議案請按贊成反對請按反對時間一分鐘現在開始
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transcript.whisperx[168].text 報告表決結果在場委員107位贊成50位反對57位贊成者少數我們現在做以下決議 副議案不通過本案照原作決定通過
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transcript.whisperx[169].text 我們現在進入討論事項第二案本院台灣民眾黨團建請院會作成決議行政院主計總署應依照立法院審議中華民國114年度中央政府總預算通案刪減之決議
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transcript.whisperx[171].text 本院臺灣民眾黨黨團有建於行政院組織總署行文各縣市政府將中央編列給地方政府的一般性補助款自一本十四年度五至十二月份分配及撥付數全數改為未分配數以嚴重違反立法院通案宣見促進政府資源有效配置之學精神中央政府預算
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transcript.whisperx[172].text 編列腐爛原編列三兆一千億元立法院通案申請後仍有二兆九千億餘元之數為中華民國史上最高至中央政府總預算本院本於職責審議預算以督促中央政府增進財務上能減少不當經濟支出甚至浪費之目的中央政府不思檢討如何有效節用分配資源卻意圖抗地方政府之憾
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transcript.whisperx[173].text 緊縮一般性補助款補助事項將紙匣市轉用紙匣市規定支線及縣市基本財政收支差段與定額設算之教育、社會福利及基本設施等改為未分配數此舉不僅違反原預算升減提安之意旨更將嚴重影響地方財政節運作
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transcript.whisperx[174].text 對地方長期建設造成劇烈衝擊原建請院會作成決議請政院主席總署應依立法院審議中華民會表14年度中央政府總算案同案宣檢至決議一致由中央各機關級所屬編列制預算宣檢調整並立即將一般性補助款足額撥付於地方政府是否有當請公決案宣讀完畢
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transcript.whisperx[175].text 法院會議我們依照立法院職權刑事法第八條第三項之規定本案經提案人說明提案子去大體討論之後我們即議決交付審查或禁付二讀或不予審議我們現在首先請提案的黨團台灣民眾黨黨團代表黃珊珊委員說明提案子去時間五分鐘
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transcript.whisperx[176].text 主席各位同仁我想台湾民众党现在所提的这个提案是有鉴于行政院主席总处行文了各县市政府将中央编列给地方政府的一般性补助款从114年5月到12月份的分配及波幅数全数改为所谓的未分配数严重违反了立法院的通案删减以及促进政府资源有效配置的决议精神
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transcript.whisperx[180].text 我們希望院會能夠做成行政院主計處應該立刻依照立法院審議中華民國114年的中央總預算案通案刪減的決議立刻恢復將一般性補助款足而撥付地方政府並將中央各機關所屬因刪減另予補足的經費來源提出說明而且要在一個月之內送交立法院重點是還原114年預算審議的背景
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transcript.whisperx[181].text 過去八年特別預算常態化公務預算腐爛編列造成國家的債務雪上加霜根據最新的國債統計到5月16號我國的國債已經超過了5.9兆元
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transcript.whisperx[182].text 國人平均的負債高達二十六萬五千元在這樣的財政壓力日益嚴重的情況下我們看到行政院三點一照的中央政府總預算案在野黨秉持戒慎恐懼的態度決議必須通案刪減部分預算以免放任政府支出無限制的擴張或開啟未來年度預算暴增的惡力
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transcript.whisperx[183].text 所以中央政府已經拿到了史上最高的預算通案刪減在通案刪減的文裡面非常的清楚講的就是針對中央各機關及所屬的通案刪減並沒有包括所謂的去刪減地方政府的一般預算更何況長期以來就算有通案刪減的情況也從來沒有這樣大幅度灌水在刪減地方的補助款
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transcript.whisperx[184].text 長期以來中央政府的總預算在立法院每年都會有統刪的狀況112年統刪了300億111年統刪了270億都維持在總預算的1%左右年度固定刪減1%的制度反而讓行政機關在編列預算的時候同時服編同樣的比例讓立法院配合它刪除這是一種虛硬故事而且破壞誠信的制度性錯誤
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transcript.whisperx[186].text 在野黨提前預防而且採取通案刪減的理由非常的正當
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transcript.whisperx[187].text 最重要的是在黨提出939億的刪減案其中630多億是由行政院自行責定刪除項目是希望行政部門發揮施政彈性盤點浪費刪除不必要的支出但是我們看到的是行政院並沒有依據必要性跟優先性反而用最懶惰最不負責任的方式直接將636億砍在對地方政府的一般性補助款上
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transcript.whisperx[188].text 而且刪減幅度超過立法院針對中央政府總預算的6%左右竟然在地方補助款上面刪幅高達25%這樣的做法令人遺憾而且也是對地方自治的嚴重打擊一般性補助款是中央政府對地方政府的承諾這更證明了財政收支劃分法的修正才是真正能夠解決地方自治以及地方建設重要的相關法令
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transcript.whisperx[189].text 中央集權集錢什麼東西都有他說了算所以今天這樣的案子我們希望中央政府立刻改正錯誤謝謝黃珊珊委員的說明報告委員會我們現在進行大體討論依照登記順序來發言並截止發言的登記我們首先請徐巧欣委員發言張家俊委員請準備
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transcript.whisperx[190].text 謝謝主席還有各位關心這個財政收支劃分法的所有台北市民朋友財政收支劃分法在114年的3月21號已經正式通過就算政府要釋憲在結果出來之前也應該遵守三讀通過的法律這才叫做依法行政因為第30條清楚的規定中央政府給予地方政府的一般補助款金額
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transcript.whisperx[191].text 不得少於修正施行前的一年度的總預算編列數而現在青睞政府所刪除的地方補助款事實上都已經編列在地方政府的預算裡面等於是中央已經承諾地方但現在耍賴皮耍無賴
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transcript.whisperx[192].text 用公然違法報復性的方式刪減地方的社會福利以及交通改善的民生預算我們的地方政府可以說是真的是非常非常的辛苦說了過去所有的所謂的動山的預算造謠
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transcript.whisperx[193].text 目前大多数的冻结案也都在解冻当中政府是可以正常运作的尤其是赖清德拿到了史上最高的总预算三兆在这个时间上面我们去苛扣地方县市政府对基层民众的福利只能说完全没有良心
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transcript.whisperx[194].text 以台北市來說呢賴清德砍掉了37億的預算其中大家關心的三峽車禍事件的交通問題賴清德政府更是毫不留情地刪除了將近7億佔比66%說好的要改善地方的交通悲劇呢更重要的是黃仁勳要落腳到市北科其中的交通改善相關計畫全部被賴政府砍掉了
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transcript.whisperx[195].text 好不容易邀請到黃仁勛來台設廠深耕中央政府是想著要怎麼樣砍掉市府協助揮打的交通配套請問這要讓外界怎麼看呢賴清德政府有沒有想過台灣的產業要如何提升為什麼中央政府要來扯自己國家的後腿難道賣了台積電還不夠還要再砍市北科
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transcript.whisperx[197].text 教育預算也被賴清德砍掉了12.41億包含低收入戶兒童學生老年人的身心障礙的相關補助被砍了40%今年如果領不到相關的補貼請去找賴清德算帳拜託我們說的團結520才剛講完結果呢前面一手說團結後面一手馬上苛刻地方的人民這樣子的中央政府只想著鬥爭跟報復難道大家還不站出來反抗嗎
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transcript.whisperx[198].text 是赖清德回头是岸否则只会失去民心难怪赖清德的520周年民调史上最差谢谢
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transcript.whisperx[199].text 謝謝主席各位同仁今天在此我們要為全國被中央刪解補助款的縣市為基層的人民發出最嚴正的抗議全國各縣市今年度的一般性補助款遭到中央統刪給這個25%這就是把基層人民的福祉當作犧牲品來進行政治鬥爭為大罷免添財火首先中央帶頭違法依據
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transcript.whisperx[200].text 這個財政收支劃分法第三十條第三項中央所撥付地方的一般性補助款不得低於前一年度的預算數全國各縣市政府也因此納入了今年度的預算並開始執行相關計劃結果中央卻臨時變卦請問這還是依法行政的政府嗎這根本是摧毀國家公信力的體制崩壞一般性補助款
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transcript.whisperx[201].text 屬於法律義務用於支出教育、社福等人民福利中央今天帶頭違法刪減一般性補助款是根本不把法治看在眼裡不把人民放在心上更荒謬的是中央總預算今年增加了731億創下歷史新高請問怎麼不是檢討
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transcript.whisperx[202].text 腐爛的中央計畫 而是拿地方政府開刀怎麼不是尊潔中央開支 而是奪走人民的福利我們看到內政部有錢來補助改路民 搞政治工程卻沒有錢支持教育 設服基礎建設有錢改路民 沒錢顧人民這是什麼政府 叫人民怎麼信任
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transcript.whisperx[203].text 中央政府這樣違法一砍,砍掉了地方在推動的公共政策,砍掉了孩子們的教育補助,砍掉了給長輩們的長照福利,砍掉了城市的道路改善,砍掉了農村的農水路建設,而中央卻在揮霍著歷年來最高的總預算。
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transcript.whisperx[204].text 中央政府已經習慣了過去八年優渥的特權竟然因為失去了絕對的控制就反過來懲罰人民刁難地方用預算手段報復選民讓民生成為人質
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transcript.whisperx[205].text 因此在這裡我要嚴正的呼籲行政院必須立即檢討補助款的邏輯編列 編列邏輯依法補齊所有縣市應得的一般性補助款中央與地方應該是攜手為民的施政夥伴人民是納稅者是國家的主人
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transcript.whisperx[206].text 不是中央政府用來開刀懲罰的對象尊重人民才能治理國家保障地方才是穩定台灣的根本謝謝謝謝張家俊委員的發言接下來我們請吳宗憲委員發言陳金威委員請準備
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transcript.whisperx[207].text 好 謝謝今天我站在這裡是要為宜蘭人還有全台灣被中央踐踏的地方政府說出一句話請政府依法行政這是最卑微的要求人民對政府最卑微的要求就是拜託政府依法行政
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transcript.whisperx[208].text 政府卻完全搞不清楚他到底要做什麼事情中央欠宜人25.5億這不是賴清德的賞賜這是依法應分得的錢所以一分錢都不能少現在這個不是黨派之爭也不是對於政策的不同解釋正是人民要站出來要對抗這個政府政府在違法政府在帶頭違法中央政府在帶頭違法
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transcript.whisperx[209].text 這個一般性補助款大家都懂這個是法定的預算啦不能說不給就不給那把宜蘭應該得到的25億5千萬一刀把它砍掉他莫名其妙的把它列為未分配數那講白了其實就是不給你錢啦這個完全沒有任何的法律依據那再加上短波的4.6億的統籌款項宜蘭一下子蒸發了30億耶
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transcript.whisperx[210].text 今天如果政府動不動就說我的款項我的中央的預算被立法院怎麼樣怎麼了然後就要砍給地方的錢那這樣子以後國家的立法院還要再監督嗎中華民國的立法院還要再監督政府嗎反正你監督之後你的任何
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transcript.whisperx[211].text 刪除 凍結他就去不給地方錢那這個監督還有任何意義嗎我們監督的是中央政府欸就中央政府把自己做不對的事情推給地方政府就我不給你錢了這個是什麼樣的政府啊什麼樣無良的政府啊
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transcript.whisperx[212].text 我們再看一下宜蘭的狀況 政府不敢告訴你的真相第一個 宜蘭的財務狀況早就吃緊它的負債 平均負債是第二名以22個縣市來說 它是第二名它的財政是非常的脆弱在這個狀況下 竟然中央還叫宜蘭自己去借錢請問一下 你要怎麼借 將來要怎麼還政府就一句話 你去借錢就對了
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transcript.whisperx[213].text 這個是道理嗎第二個這些錢是用在基礎的地方治理都是用在教育跟社福所以他跟中低收入戶跟身心障礙跟單親家庭的補助都有關聯性這是救命錢救急錢育兒的費用
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transcript.whisperx[214].text 那你既然這樣子把人家編好的東西你突然不給就不給還違法的不給這樣對得起國人嗎中央政府啊你不要集錢集權又肥中央瘦地方這是不對的你不要動不動的把全國人民地方政府全部拉進來搞你的大罷免啊你為了把罷免天才我你什麼傷天害理的事都幹得出來把錢還給伊蘭
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transcript.whisperx[215].text 主席各位委員大家好
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transcript.whisperx[216].text 民眾基層生活所需要的穩定這應該是沒有分顏色也不分藍綠白也不分黨派的本席非常遺憾看到行政院近日以總預算為由竟然帶頭違法刪減地方政府所應該要有的一般性補助款簡直是令人莫名其妙而且匪夷所思
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transcript.whisperx[217].text 國人們認為的是中央政府獲得了三讀後創史上最高金額的總預算經費會因此把給地方政府的一般性補助款也連帶的增加變多並且這也是應該的因為這樣才能讓地方更有錢用在造橋鋪路 守護兒少 社福 教育等等重要的事情
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transcript.whisperx[218].text 但是結果卻剛剛好相反行政院拿到了創史上最高金額的總預算經費後卻大砍給地方政府的一般補助款而且還真正少了四分之一的規模
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transcript.whisperx[219].text 光是讓我責任區的高雄市就少了快要52億這已經很明顯的違反了財政收支劃分法第30條第三項規定中央給予地方的一般性補助款不得低於前一年度數額這樣子的法律規範
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transcript.whisperx[220].text 更說不過去的是中央政府根本沒有在一般性補助款的科目被刪除也沒有被凍結今年編列給地方的一般性補助款在這邊本席幫忙算了一下共達2501億元我們國民黨黨團是全數支持因為一般性補助款本來就不屬於立法院可以刪減的項目
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transcript.whisperx[221].text 依法為地方應得的法定預算結果法定預算卻被行政院自刑檢列也創下了最難堪的歷史記錄嚴重的影響地方政府的救命錢最後在此本席呼籲行政院要立即收回錯誤的決策回到依法行政的正軌
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transcript.whisperx[222].text 我也支持地方政府必須趕快提起訴訟捍衛地方自治還有人民的權益中央如果持續的操作用預算來懲罰地方最後受害的絕對不只是地方政府而是全體的百姓謝謝大家好 謝謝陳金威委員的發言接下來我們請廖先祥委員請發言王紅薇委員請準備
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transcript.whisperx[223].text 好 謝謝民進黨這一年多來不斷指控在野黨毀憲亂政但實際上踐踏憲政目無法紀的正是民進黨自己首先民進黨最近行政院將補助地方性的一般性的補助款通篡了三成卓榮泰院長知道這違法嗎他當然知道所以他只敢在總諮詢結束之後才宣布這件事情
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transcript.whisperx[224].text 並且推了一個行政院的發言人出來說這完全合法他提出了兩個法律我們來看看這兩條法律在講什麼他說依照地方制度法第69條各上級政府為某地方均衡發展可以對財政較差的地方政府補助對財政較優的地方政府取得協助金條文開宗明義講的就是均衡城鄉發展
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transcript.whisperx[225].text 那現在行政院針對地方政府的通商叫做均衡城鄉發展我想請問一下卓榮泰院長你的中文跟邏輯是萬老師教的嗎再來一條財政收支化生法第30條他說上級政府有調整給予地方政府的一般性補助款當然我們剛剛有許多的同仁都有說了第30條的最後一項有說
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transcript.whisperx[226].text 我們補助給地方政府的一般性補助款金額不得少於修正實施前一年度預算編列數這什麼意思呢也就是我們現在行政院做的做法就像是一家公司他的獲利創新高他的預算創新高但是董事長跟我們的民眾說我們今年的獲利
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transcript.whisperx[227].text 比去年高但是比我的預期大概低了2%所以我要來砍你們員工的薪水我不只砍你們員工的薪水還把你們員工的薪水砍到比法定的薪水還低比最低薪資還低這就是行政院目前正在做的事情退換不說
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transcript.whisperx[228].text 我們行政院這次的做法說是立法院砍掉了預算但我們的立法院實際上針對2025年度的總預算並沒有針對一般性的補助去刪除我們只有請行政院自行調節600多億的預算其餘的都有科目指定刪除600多億的預算大概只佔行政院總預算3億的大概2%左右但行政院
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transcript.whisperx[229].text 卻用報復式的方式刪除了地方一般性補助30%我們請你調節2%你卻刪了地方30%的預算這在告訴人民什麼只要你敢監督民進黨民進黨政府就敢欺負人民給你看好 謝謝廖先祥委員發言接下來請王宏威委員發言黃國昌委員請準備
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transcript.whisperx[230].text 好主席還有各位同仁今天我們討論中央政府行政院違法刪除對地方的補助款這是破天荒以前沉水扁不敢
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transcript.whisperx[231].text 以前馬一九不敢以前蔡英文不敢但是今天賴清德瘋起來竟然直接的去砍了對地方的補助款
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transcript.whisperx[232].text 我們可以看到現場民進黨毫不令人意外的又在造謠他說這個是藍白自己刪除的可是問題是地方補助款是法定預算經過立法院審查通過還有經過總統府公告實施
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transcript.whisperx[233].text 請問一下總統府公告實施的預算是假新聞嗎如果你看到我們的預算書有關於整個統山的部分一共有12項
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transcript.whisperx[234].text 對不起11項預算書一共11項我想請問民進黨團你告訴我哪一條跟地方補助款有關哪一條跟地方補助款有關造謠又再造謠
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transcript.whisperx[235].text 這次三地方補助款搞得地方雞飛狗跳搞得地方還要舉債度日所有的責任百分之百就是賴清德就是卓龍泰就是民進黨
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transcript.whisperx[236].text 我們一直說窮不能窮教育苦不能苦孩子地方補助款事實上放了非常多的教育的預算育兒的今天長照甚至學校的營養午餐
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transcript.whisperx[237].text 請問賴清德請問卓榮泰你們何其殘忍為什麼直接刪除要窮教育要苦孩子呢我也要點名請問一下吳思瑤你贊成台北市的預算被刪除嗎你贊成台北市的教育預算被刪除嗎
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transcript.whisperx[238].text 我也要請問蘇巧慧你贊成新北市的預算被刪除嗎你贊成新北市的小型高層款被刪除嗎我也要請教想要選舉的林俊憲跟陳亭飛你們不要在老農經費部啦
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transcript.whisperx[239].text 包含被删除的预算还有浓水路还有很多的小型工程款请问一下民进党的委员你们被选民选出来而今天你们都杀手去砍你们自己选民的预算去砍教育的预算社福的预算你们对得起选民吗你们还好意思站在这边说你们在害怕被选民吗你们对不起选民你们还是应该跟我们一样
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transcript.whisperx[240].text 好 謝謝王宏威委員的發言接下來我們請黃國昌委員發言羅廷維委員請準備報告委員會現在一場二樓旁聽的來自我們林淑芬委員邀請的政治大學法律系的高材生祝福大家 我們掌聲歡迎請黃國昌委員請發言
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transcript.whisperx[241].text 二十五年中央政府總預算行政院編列了史上最高的三兆一千多億的預算
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transcript.whisperx[242].text 在預算審查的過程當中我們提出的提案要求中央政府必須要尊嚴人民的血汗錢不是這樣子亂花的因此我們在通案提案當中要求中央政府及其所屬機關
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transcript.whisperx[243].text 必須要針對自己的經費來加以刪減來加以調節而整個金額佔中央政府總預算事實上百分之二但是我們沒有辦法理解的是
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transcript.whisperx[244].text 我們的卓榮泰院長在行政院自己中央政府機關遭到立法院刪除了以後他做了什麼事情他做的事情是跟地方政府搶錢而搶錢的項目竟然是攸關到在法令上面地方政府的法定義務支出
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transcript.whisperx[245].text 最近這幾天已經有非常多的學者專家出來痛批卓榮泰回去看一看財政收支劃分法的規定回去看一看預算法的規定回去看一看行政院自己所頒布的針對直轄市及縣市政府補助款的辦法
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transcript.whisperx[246].text 不管是母法到行政院自己頒布的命令都清楚的講一件事情就是我們的行政院把自己背三的預算轉嫁到地方政府是徹徹底底的違法亂紀只是我們非常遺憾的看到的是
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transcript.whisperx[247].text 當民進黨政府面對自己過去不斷的浪費人民的納稅錢胡搞瞎搞欠人民的錢都還沒有吐出來的時候一方面貪婪的要更多的預算一方面在自己預算被刪除的時候找地方政府出氣找一般的民眾出氣
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transcript.whisperx[248].text 我們今天提出這個案子我希望附委審查的時候每一個參與審查的委員說清楚講明白 讚不讚成卓榮泰這樣違法亂紀胡搞瞎搞 謝謝謝謝黃國昌委員發言接下來我們請羅廷偉委員發言 李彥秀委員請準備
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transcript.whisperx[249].text 好 謝謝院長我想地方政府的一般性補助款大家都知道它是用於平衡地方政府的預算教育 社福 基礎建設這一次的補助款我們都希望他們在這一次行政院粗暴地砍掉了地方政府高達25%一般性的補助款不只是違法 還耍流氓
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transcript.whisperx[250].text 我們看到520總統在演說的過程希望團結這個國家在野的勢力大家坐下來談但是一方面我們又看到現階段行政院竟然做出了違法亂紀
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transcript.whisperx[251].text 台灣是法治國家請問行政院這樣子做有法源依據嗎依據財政劃分收支法第30條規定中央政府規定給予政府的相關一般性補助款金額不低於前一年的一個預算數聽清楚是不得一般性補助款金額
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transcript.whisperx[252].text 不得低於前一年的預算數這是法定預算大家都知道行政院不能任意的刪減中央不應該拿地方開刀中央不該對地方政府以及各縣市市民所進行的秋後算帳
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transcript.whisperx[253].text 這些經費攸關於民眾的日常生活各地方政府所面臨的社會福利縮水長者與弱勢群體的失去應有的照顧公共建設維護的停擺影響到地方政府的正常運作
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transcript.whisperx[254].text 城鄉差距只會越拉越大無疑是全台國人權益的代價換取政治操作的一個空間我們還是要呼籲現在的政府應該苦民所苦我們明明就已經有這個財政收支劃分法清清楚楚地寫在那邊第三十條的規定而如今卻釋法於無誤
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transcript.whisperx[255].text 所以要再次拜託大家我們這一次一起來支持復回審查的時候共同的來表態並且要求行政院卓榮泰應該要把這項政策來退回我們要共同守護各縣市的地方性補助款共同為國人來努力上謝謝羅廷維委員發言接下來我們請李燕秀委員發言 麥玉珍委員請準備
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transcript.whisperx[256].text 行政院對全國各地方政府的衣補助款捅刪25%這不僅是嚴重的違反預算法才化法更是完全的政治惡意這就是拿人民的權利當出氣筒把對人民的照顧
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transcript.whisperx[257].text 當成做成政治鬥爭的工具才化法的第30條規定非常清楚我們的中央政府給予地方政府的一般補助款不得低於前一年的預算數這樣的做法這一次的統三不僅是傷害地方政府跟市民更是明顯的違法中央行政院是知法違法更何況
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transcript.whisperx[258].text 這一次我們刪減的在總預算當中我們刪的科目主要是業務費跟媒體宣傳費完全沒有刪減地方的任何一筆補助款114年度中央政府總預算對地方政府的補助總共是2500億我再次強調一塊錢也沒刪這是立法院通過的法定預算也是經過總統府
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transcript.whisperx[259].text 公告施行行政院這樣的做法是張冠李戴指鹿為馬更是極度的惡意我要再次強調我們三檢預算在立法院審查的過程當中我們是幫中央政府審支出是替人民勘緊荷包更何況去年通過的預算是兩兆九千兩百四十八億元這是創下中華民國有史以來預算數的新高
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transcript.whisperx[260].text 更比前年多增加了730億元現在居然拿人民的錢來開刀請問民進黨的良心到底在哪裡民進黨有錢改路民沒錢照顧人民這就是最大的政治的詐騙集團這也是最大的政治鬥爭的工具把人民當作政治鬥爭的工具我要再一次的請問執政黨的民進黨請問鍾文泰院長你們心中還有民主嗎
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transcript.whisperx[261].text 你們心中到底有沒有法治你們心中到底有沒有人民因為地方補助款無論是造橋鋪路補助婦幼或者身障或者是兒少每一筆都是地方真正紮紮實實的救命錢
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transcript.whisperx[262].text 我們堅決反對行政院統三25%的統籌補助款我們也支持地方政府捍衛民眾的基本權益對於行政院帶頭違法亂紀賴清德總統 總統太院長要負起百分之百完全的行政責任 以上謝謝李燕秀委員的發言接下來我們請麥玉珍委員發言林國成委員請準備
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transcript.whisperx[263].text 院長各位親愛的家人大家早安立法院明明通過的預算是要行政院自我檢討從中央機關的預算中刪減了636億是要中央減少威煌控制腐爛的
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transcript.whisperx[264].text 知识但赖清德政府与行政院长卓龙泰居然胆大万为倒行逆施公然把伸手向地方政府的口袋把本来要给各县市政府的一般性补助通通抠下这是什么这是偷拐抢骗这是对立法院节育的直入
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transcript.whisperx[265].text 維碼這是對地方的政府的肆意打壓這是對人民赤裸裸的背叛賴政府還有我們卓院長你們高高在上比在辦公室的催淪期很爽快
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transcript.whisperx[266].text 出一基礎就幾十萬就沒了你們知不知道這幾十億在台中南投彰化雲林是多少建設是多少人民的希望你們憑什麼為了政治鬥爭
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transcript.whisperx[267].text 就剝奪地方生存的基本資源憑什麼把國家的財政變成你們手中的保護工具是誰給你們這種權利還是你們早就忘了人民才是這個國家的主人你們的做法簡直是歷代地方羞辱民主踐踏立院玩弄制度難道
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transcript.whisperx[268].text 是讓小孩子無教室上課讓長者無人照顧讓鄉親無水電可用嗎這就是你們賴政府溫暖堅韌的執政風格嗎根本就是冷血霸道無恥今天我們民眾黨黨團在這裡鄭重呼應全院支持主決議
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transcript.whisperx[269].text 要求行政院立即停止違法貫權足而撥付所有地方應得的補助款我們不容許再次一分錢再有一秒鐘的延遲我們也要讓全國的人民知道
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transcript.whisperx[270].text 誰才是後國殃民的真鬆這場戰爭台灣民眾黨為了地方為了人民一定捍衛到底台灣加油新政府加油謝謝大家好謝謝麥玉珍委員發言接下來我們請林國成委員發言莊麒凱委員請準備
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transcript.whisperx[271].text 好拜託各位委員請尊重發言委員的權益拜託大家好林國聰委員請各位前國的同胞各位我們本縣的同仁民進黨在執政陳水扁不敢蔡英文不敢現在的賴政府說敢就敢
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transcript.whisperx[272].text 這不是獨裁霸道自我 唯我獨尊那什麼叫做唯我獨尊所以我覺得我們所有的預算總共刪了6點多那我就感覺到很奇怪你為什麼賴政府要刪地方政府的25%
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transcript.whisperx[273].text 如果你不滿刪掉六點多你可以凍結六點多那為什麼要凍結百分之二十五這代表什麼這代表就是霸道所以用綁架人民的心態綁架地方政府這個叫做標準的中央集權又集錢所以這叫做賴政府
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transcript.whisperx[274].text 那我是覺得兩兆多歷年來最高的預算為什麼要砍地方的預算
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transcript.whisperx[275].text 但不是一切都是為了大罷免嗎所以我認為請問賴總統良心何在心中還有人民嗎中央花錢地方執行地方花錢中央執行這不是都為台灣人民嗎所以我還有一點很不諒解用公款作為政治的籌碼
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transcript.whisperx[276].text 綁架全民綁架地方政府真正讓民主是蒙羞啊所以我還要特別呼籲啊呼籲我們地方政府依照你地方自治法的有關法規大家團結起來對抗極權又極權的中央政府
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transcript.whisperx[277].text 所以用一種方式地方包圍中央這是過去民進黨所主張的啊中央集權我們就用地方包圍中央的政策所以我還是要呼籲我們地方政府
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transcript.whisperx[278].text 你們所做的事情也是為人民那中央政府他所做的事情不是為了人民那當然我們就要團結一致來對抗極權的現在的執政黨所以我要再度呼籲
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transcript.whisperx[279].text 我們現在的執政黨現在的賴政府卓院長心中要有人民執政才會長久在這裡我要呼籲所有地方政府的縣市長團結起來大家加油好 謝謝林國成委員的發言報告委員會接下來我們是在中午午休之前最後一位發言的張祺凱委員發言之後我們要進行休息到下午兩點半現在請張祺凱委員請發言
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transcript.whisperx[280].text 賴清德總統 卓榮泰院長民進黨 行政院你們心裡還有人民嗎你們為什麼要這樣傷害為什麼要這樣懲罰我們台灣人民呢這次行政院砍的是傷害了我們台灣的民主法治
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transcript.whisperx[281].text 而且傷害的是我們所有的縣市政府還有我們每一位民眾關係最密切的他們砍的是社會福利的預算教育的預算各個縣市要做的基礎建設的這個預算行政院跟民進黨你怎麼砍得下手啦
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transcript.whisperx[282].text 而且一砍就是27.3%這是立法院三減民進黨的行政院中央政府總預算扣掉台電之外只有3%減3%喔結果民進黨砍我們人民砍各縣市政府一出手就大砍27.3砍掉四分之一以上民進黨無法無天喪盡天良
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transcript.whisperx[283].text 根本不把我們人民放在心上這真的是一個土匪政府我給大家看一下這是立法院的公文書當初我們在審預算案的時候清清楚楚講我們要統三的項目是什麼中央機關跟所屬
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transcript.whisperx[284].text 民進黨張開眼睛你們哪一隻眼睛看到上面有地方政府你們為什麼違法亂紀為什麼去砍地方的補助款明明我們要你去調整的636億就是上面中央各機關跟所屬
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transcript.whisperx[285].text 你們怎麼可以這樣違法亂砍啊而且地方的補助款早在去年的八月份就已經通過了跟各個地方縣市政府講人家編為稅入經過各個縣市的議會通過的耶是法定的預算耶依照預算法 財政說是發明法這筆錢本來就是要給地方的你們怎麼可以目無法紀違法亂證到這樣子呢更讓人家生氣了
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transcript.whisperx[286].text 今年的中央政府今年的行政院是中華民國有史以來最富有的將近三兆的預算結果你怎麼忍心去砍地方政府砍我們人民啊而且沒比都是人民最切身的請大家注意我們現在看等一下上來的民眾有沒有支持我們地方的建設
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transcript.whisperx[287].text 好謝謝張祺凱委員的發言我們上午的會議進行到此為止下午兩點三十分繼續開會進行後續大體討論之委員發言現在休息
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transcript.whisperx[288].text 謝謝大家
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transcript.whisperx[289].text 現在我們繼續開會進行到討論事項第二案後續我們繼續進行大體討論之發言接下來我們請翁曉琳委員發言謝榮介委員請準備
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transcript.whisperx[290].text 主席各位委員還有全國的各個朋友大家好實話說人心不足蛇吞象今年賴政府擁有中華民國有史以來最高的施政預算將近三兆的規模但是呢賴政府還是不滿足
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transcript.whisperx[291].text 要将行政院及各部会应该自行吸收节省支出的636亿元全数都转嫁给地方的县市政府删除对地方政府的一般性补助款的25%让地方政府在无预期的情况之下呢就少了四分之一的经费可用平均每个县市少了二三十亿的钱
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transcript.whisperx[292].text 這筆錢是許多縣市政府的救命錢與地方社福教育補助基礎建設有關卓榮泰的行政院是錢多到流油那麼卻狠心的刪除給地方政府的活命錢
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transcript.whisperx[293].text 由此可見賴政府的自私自利不以民為孽不苦民所苦寧可地方老百姓窮死也不願拿出那一點點錢來幫助地方老百姓實在是傷天害理得不配位
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transcript.whisperx[294].text 在此我要譴責賴清德卓榮泰的事你們違憲亂政不依法行政的無恥行為毫無下限今天行政院對地方政府的一般性的補助款是依照地方制度法和財政收支劃分法的規定中央政府本來就應該給予地方政府補助這是屬於法定的義務支出不是你們愛給不給的施捨錢
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transcript.whisperx[295].text 本席呢在这里有一份文件这个是113年8月30号就是去年的时候行政院发文含请立法院审议114年度中央政府总预算时当时所附具的第五项附件也就是114年度中央政府总预算案编列依法律义务支出的明细表一份在这份明细表的第九项里面清楚的写出对地方政府的补助款
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transcript.whisperx[296].text 总金额就是2501亿元而这笔一般性的补助款就是法律的义务支出那么并且这是已经经过立法院三读审议通过的预算依照大法官释字319还有520号的解释这个叫做措施性法律通过了就要执行没有说依法是不能够拒绝执行的
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transcript.whisperx[298].text 好 謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[299].text 好 謝謝翁曉琳委員的發言接下來謝龍介委員發言黃建斌委員請準備報告院會現在在我們議場二樓旁聽的是來自於民傳大學公共事務與行政管理學院碩士班的同學們我們掌聲歡迎各位同學 歡迎你們好 謝龍介委員請發言
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transcript.whisperx[300].text 全國的好朋友 大家好合青是AI的內閣 現在變成AI的內閣夏青天 總統做行政議長時一條高情約 地方的武神統統到位蘇貞昌做行政議長時 兩條四情約 地方的武神統統到位
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transcript.whisperx[301].text 這個飯湯師傅到營台做行政議長 勉強當一黨我們讓他兩條高清高霸業的武神 地方的寶座通通砍掉不會再失準陷阱的 把台灣點到市民全會所有的情書都放在道中
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transcript.whisperx[302].text 為了發動大把握 到底是做一個高潮軍師 給你出這個奧賽步全國家的六四朋友 終極修立好 三中六四 老人寶座只要你們人口的寶座 企業的寶座 拿不掉 隆重是行政移動 獨端獨行
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transcript.whisperx[303].text 真可惜,民隊的國際挑戰沒辦法,民隊的來得有得來得有嗎?這個內閣已經完全失靈,只有用道精來轉移焦點,轉移焦點不能改變你無靈的宿舍,
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transcript.whisperx[304].text 今天所有在地方的官司都沒分洞牌,二十里官司,這五層都通過了議會都審查過,一分鐘結果你現在把第二十七打起來,你是在想什麼,我也想都沒有
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transcript.whisperx[305].text 對於你如果做到這麼不情願本來我理會夠了就是你要落台的時候你若不是財經的轉動面對著美國關稅的挑戰你應該主動清洗 抵收進退讓新疆總統有更大的贏人的空間不然實地定點 太過存活的每天等著後勤不曬白沒有這個後曬白沒辦法
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transcript.whisperx[306].text 所以 我在這裡心中 還可以把這個黑黑的內閣 放在口中 低收進退應該是到你離開的時候 酒店關門 你就不能再流亂不能再有辣青帝總統 每一次你費錢心酥 來去替你切卡秤我怎麼切都不會理啦
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transcript.whisperx[307].text 塞一鍋好好補出來照顧全台灣的百姓這才是一個優惠的行政理論
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transcript.whisperx[308].text 院長 各位立委同仁現場的媒體及的朋友以及所有台黨的鄉親大家好行政院只憑一張公文在沒有告知地方政府的情況下直接砍掉各縣市27.32%的一般性補助款
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transcript.whisperx[309].text 以台東而言,原本今年可以獲得84.45億元卻一口氣被刪掉了22.68億元中央政府砍掉的這些預算,幾乎佔了台東縣總預算的十分之一根本是欺負台東人對於民進黨政府不斷地公開說謊的情況,說是立法院砍預算行政院才是刪減地方預算
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transcript.whisperx[310].text 中央政府已砍掉的這每一分錢都是攸關台東的交通、教育、社福、長照、醫療及公共安全這些都是台東人最重要的需求如今為了政治操作雖然拿最基層、最弱勢的民眾開刀完全不把台東人放在眼裡在這邊我要公開的告訴鄉親民進黨政府不斷地公開造謠說立法院砍預算
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transcript.whisperx[311].text 說行政院沒有錢所以刪地方補助款這是天大的謊言真正的事實是第一中央政府總預算高達將近三兆現在的中央政府是史上最有錢的政府其中一般性補助款僅有2500億元立法院一分一毫都沒有刪除
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transcript.whisperx[312].text 第二,一般性補助款是地方政府依法應得的法定預算根據財劃法第三十條規定中央政府給地方政府一般補助款的金額不得少於修正實行前一年度預算編列數因此行政院沒有權力自行刪減對地方政府的一般性補助款強行刪減就是違法,就是濫權
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transcript.whisperx[313].text 在這裡我要告訴中央政府不要再欺負我們台東人台東含了幾十年的花東塊中央政府說經濟效益不高所以到現在還沒通過可行性評估對於0403強鎮後東部鐵路設施安全的改善計畫一年多了還卡在中央
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transcript.whisperx[314].text 這些事情都是攸關台中人的生命安全中央政府卻毫不在乎如今台中鄉親的補助竟然說砍就砍本宵在這裡要跟中央講一句話我們台中人並沒有開放這個國家到底要求台中人到什麼時候
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transcript.whisperx[315].text 為什麼在野黨要推動《財化法》的修法卻讓台東每年多134億元的法定預算讓台東人更有錢可以做台東人自己的建設給台東鄉親更公平的福利跟權益《財化法》的修法也是民進黨在野時期的主張中央不能極權又極淺我黃建斌在立法院絕對會強力的監督懷疑人家受於台東人已經拖得來為台東人拖一口氣 將出公平的觀念 謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[317].text 謝謝主席韓院長各位先進那麼我們看到這一次我們的卓院長到底的違法苛刻地方補助款
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transcript.whisperx[318].text 我們看到520賴清德總統就職一週年的時候大家覺得說有一點不一樣好像身段比較軟他願意對在野黨釋出善意結果不到一兩天的時間才發現都是假的馬上真面目就出來了一個凶殺二審卓榮泰跑出來了
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transcript.whisperx[319].text 這個才是真正的面目啊前面是假的啦所以要向在野黨的主席報告國安要簡報國安 那是假的今天在這今天是什麼這裡面有一個很重要的東西有些人不見得有談到那就是左院長要對於裁劃法要進行釋憲進行釋憲就是說他不接受他要釋憲
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transcript.whisperx[320].text 他要釋憲所以呢我們這裡面採訪完的30條第三項講得很清楚地方補助款不可以比去年少這一條他就等於沒收啦所以他今天卓榮泰出兩招
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transcript.whisperx[321].text 左手他就是視線 右手砍你的部分 地方補助款結果就兇又兇啦我們現在才了解原來說以為最會溝通的一個行政院長左榮泰原來才是 原來這個才是他的真面目兇又兇 兇又沒天良
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transcript.whisperx[322].text 因為大家都看得很清楚嘛這個癌癌到嗷嗷待哺以台北市為例台北市這一砍下來27%砍下來我們的兒少婦女老人身障攝護被砍了60%教育被砍了62%人行道的改善帶路的改善北市科用地方面被砍了總共砍了34%
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transcript.whisperx[323].text 各位別忘了 北思科 北思科是什麼啊黃仁勳要設國際的研發總部在台灣 在北思科如果因為這個被砍了 使得這個工程連蕩了
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transcript.whisperx[324].text 左龍泰會變成台灣人民的公敵台灣人民對這個黃仁勳的AI的總部多麼的歡迎多麼的期待他來這裡帶動台灣的AI我們希望左龍泰懸崖勒馬放給台灣人民一條生路吧謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[325].text 謝謝賴思寶委員的發言接下來我們請吳思瑤委員發言陳秀寶委員請準備
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transcript.whisperx[326].text 主席各位同仁冤有頭債有主立法院自己在違憲現在反來說依法行政的行政院在違法我們現在所審查的是民眾黨提出來的決議案就是藍白想要洗白自己二彈總預算的罪行想要甩鍋賴給清德問題是來得及嗎回得去嗎
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transcript.whisperx[327].text 早知如此何必當初當初如果沒有二砍總預算種下惡因就不會有今天的苦果而且如果當初支持總預算的復議案就可以撥亂反正現在
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transcript.whisperx[328].text 總預算二月份就三讀通過但是已經五月底了立法院要用一個決議案來推翻自己的總預算審查自己推翻自己藍白打臉藍白程序上毫不正當決議案的效力並沒有辦法來凌駕總預算的審查結果立法院再大也不能夠把審查總預算當做小孩玩遊戲說不算就不算說重來就重來
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transcript.whisperx[329].text 預算就是民生不要報復自己的國家不要懲罰自己的人民藍白的委員今天站上來說的每一句話都是在漂白自己的罪行而這每一句話民進黨的委員在審查總預算的時候我們都說過都提醒過都苦苦哀求過可是藍白當家的立法院不理會不屑一顧
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transcript.whisperx[330].text 还记得1月20号彻夜表决总预算通过的那一天蓝白的委员全场欢呼欢欣鼓舞觉得他们成功了确实成功山道让国人有感菩萨为因众生为果黄国昌说山预算一定让国人有感现在应验了地方首长要算账请找自家的立委
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transcript.whisperx[331].text 居然今天還在造謠看看我這邊的大字報行政院完全是依法執行尊重立法院三讀通過的總預算案自行調整6361是立法院的要求行政院沒有違法
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transcript.whisperx[332].text 而且预算权就是行政权中央依法有裁量权依据的是地方制度法69条跟裁划法30条而裁划法一直到新法是今年的3月才通过上路但是预算早在2月就公告了并没有办法适用今年的新的裁划法
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transcript.whisperx[333].text 而行政院保留了173億社福不受影響教育不受影響不是藍白造謠的在懲罰地方最後我要說自己在違憲現在來罵別人違法完全就只是要洗白自己的罪行民進黨沒有辦法接受謝謝吳思瑤委員的發言接下來我們請陳秀寶委員發言葛如君委員請準備
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transcript.whisperx[334].text 主席 各位同仁自從第十一屆立委任期開始藍白委員就一直在提出各種不合理的提案無視民意 忽視民眾需求每次都在院會表決前零十一再修正動議的方式沒有經過實質討論不負責任地以多數暴力強行通過犧牲全國人民權益的惡劣法案
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transcript.whisperx[335].text 這個提案就是藍白不負責任的最大體現提這個案子就能掩飾當初讓國人很有感的二砍預算的真相嗎114年總預算遭通三636億財化法三讀通過後也將從每個部會分走平均29%的預算到地方政府行政院少了如此龐大的預算勢必要調整本年度預算支出
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transcript.whisperx[336].text 在討論修正才化法的時候行政院已經一再說明目前每年對地方政府的補助已經從103年度的5486億元逐年成長到114年度的1兆151億元也就是說
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transcript.whisperx[337].text 114年總預算的約一半都是用在挹注地方政府的財源如今遭到藍白毫無理由的通商636億如何能夠不影響中央對地方的財政挹注更何況才化法修正一味的將
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transcript.whisperx[338].text 預算從中央挪到地方卻並沒有要求地方政府需要如何運用多取得的預算不用承擔任何責任逃避全民的監督行政院推動多種全國性的政策腦農津貼長照政策育兒津貼租屋補助學雜費減免等等在不影響原有福國利民的政策推動之下
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transcript.whisperx[339].text 還要自行調整通山636億的項目只能先調整對地方政府的補助款這也是當初藍白不負責任沒有道理的要求行政院通山的惡果藍白執政限制首長沒有理由指責行政院而是應該要檢討當初亂修法亂刪預算的藍白兩黨
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transcript.whisperx[340].text 藍白兩黨委員們當你們成功的刪減了中央政府的預算而洋洋得意以為刁難了行政體系事實上你們亂篩預算的結果是全民在承擔請問你們如何對得起每一張支持你們期待你們為國家為人民做事情的選票謝謝陳秀寶委員發言接下來是葛如君委員發言陳培宇委員請準備
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transcript.whisperx[341].text 報告委員會今天立法院越來越熱鬧我們一場二樓旁天遠從台中東海大學法律系的好多同學熱情歡迎大家我們掌聲歡迎好 我們葛如君委員請發言
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transcript.whisperx[342].text 主席各位先進朋友大家好民進黨這次刪除中央給地方的一般性補助款比例將近30%27.3%還說多數縣市財政仍可支應全然沒有考慮到對地方社福教育交通等各項基礎設施的影響一句話就是政府不想省錢啊
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transcript.whisperx[343].text 實際上我們可以看到童子賢董事長就有說了如果我們的能源政策可以改變一年將可以省下N個千億我們立法院希望我們的政府遵截開支636億元是針對中央政府的預算希望部會可以減少支出
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transcript.whisperx[344].text 因為過去的支出實在太誇張了有農委會的1450網軍又或者勞動部的莊皇首長辦公室開部長個人演唱會等等再加上這次的總預算最初的編列高達3兆1324億
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transcript.whisperx[345].text 即便是立法院刪除過後兩兆九千億也是史上最高但是萬萬沒想到我們賴卓體系貪得無厭連史上最高的預算都還嫌不夠花不想省錢現在還要把這些希望他省的錢呢砍在人民的頭上
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transcript.whisperx[346].text 當初會出現這樣的一個規劃是希望能夠讓他自行調整統三636億民進黨恩將籌報不惜違背財化法的規定要來轉嫁到地方政府這是完全違背財化法的規定
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transcript.whisperx[347].text 也違背相關的精神這要給地方政府的2500億一般性的補助款立法院完全沒有刪減沒想到民進黨做賊的喊抓賊要把責任拋給在野黨實在有夠扯
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transcript.whisperx[348].text 過去民進黨不斷的疑似鼓動側翼用假訊息、造謠等等的方式來恐嚇民眾說因為立法院三預算導致租金補貼發不出來學生因此無法留學、深造等等最後都證實完全沒有這些事或沒有這個人如今要把手腳動到地方政府的身上
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transcript.whisperx[349].text 行政院嘴巴上面說著要捍衛憲政體制但身體上卻是不斷違法亂記接下來我們五月份是納稅記民進黨要用一張違法的公文剝奪納稅人該享有的各項福利不顧全責難怪會有人說賴清德上任之心只搞大罷免我們絕對不同意
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transcript.whisperx[350].text 好謝謝葛如君委員發言接下來我們請陳培宇委員發言陳冠廷委員請準備
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transcript.whisperx[351].text 好 謝謝主席我們今天之所以還要在這邊討論預算案正是因為在2024年年底開始我們可以看到藍白委員共同提出非常多荒謬的預算提案但是我相信他們已經忘記了甚且他們不敢想起來當時國民黨荒謬提出2334案而民眾黨提出487案
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transcript.whisperx[352].text 將近4000案的荒謬預算提案理由非常的瞎包含廖先祥委員就說因為中共沒有跟洪都拉斯買白蝦因此他現在被戲稱為廖先瞎委員當時他主張要求刪除外交部預算4億元後來他撤案了但是我們可以看到這麼荒謬的提案就出現在國民黨團委員提案當中當時還有不喜歡讀書的魯明哲委員
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transcript.whisperx[353].text 他說年輕人都拿文化幣去買書他覺得有疑慮所以刪除文化幣的預算還有陳玉珍委員當時在立法院門口笑著跟記者說他們還在比賽誰刪得多誰刪得很不用講理由不用講道理不用講專業他愛怎麼刪就怎麼刪
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transcript.whisperx[355].text 但是為了補救行政院負責任的在2月底提出復議案但是藍白依然繼續否決因此我們只好申請釋憲而這一次地方政府一般性補助款有所調整原因也是當初黃國昌跟傅坤祺在通案統刪當中要求行政院
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transcript.whisperx[356].text 自己去找項目刪除636億這其實當時已經提醒他們違反所謂憲法權利分立還有制衡原則也違反預算法但是他們聽也不聽在意也不在意所以現在的後果
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transcript.whisperx[357].text 所有藍白地方諸侯非常有感他們必須要自行承擔但我要提醒這一次有人呼喊著長照的錢到哪裡去了請大家不用擔心長照用的是基金但是行政院還是保留非常多的預算在於學校午餐補助學校沒有被犧牲孩子沒有被
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transcript.whisperx[358].text 對你們從
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transcript.whisperx[359].text 剛開始荒謬預算提案開始到今天又甚至提出要逼迫行政院做出把所有的預算補助再還回去地方政府而黃國昌還有傅坤祺還有所有的藍白委員你們必須要對全國人民交代當時為什麼要提出這麼荒謬的提案而到現在依然還是不回頭謝謝謝謝陳培宇委員發言接下來我們請陳冠廷委員發言蔡奕宇委員請準備
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transcript.whisperx[360].text 主席各位同仁相信大家還記得今年初我們審議中央政府總預算的時候那時候在野黨是擁多數的優勢那史無前例的三減了2075億元其中通案三減是939億元更要求行政院自行三減636億確實讓大家很有感只是這個有感鄉親地方政府還有人民都很難以接受
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transcript.whisperx[361].text 當中央政府的預算被大幅刪減行政院就必須要在有限的資源下去調整分配這難道不是必然的結果嗎那就像一個家庭當收入減少的時候他必須要調整各項支出這是一個再簡單不過的道理各位地方首長感受到預算的短缺的壓力我們完全能夠感同身受而中央政府面臨史上最大幅度的預算刪減也是同樣的處境
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transcript.whisperx[362].text 地方預算它是不斷的在增加但是少了輔助盤就很難以去做更完善的施政那中央預算一下子被刪掉兩千多億元再沒有正當性指出哪些預算撫編難道毫無道理的統三了六百多億對於政務對上的難度不會更加嚴峻嗎
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transcript.whisperx[363].text 更重要的是主計總署早在去年8月就已經含之我們各縣市政府如果立法院的審議結果有所刪減就必須要配合調整這不是突如其來的決定它是依法行政的結果根據地方制度法還有財政收支劃分法中央政府具有補助管的採樣權所以是去年就知道的
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transcript.whisperx[364].text 當我們去年就知道的事情為什麼我們那個時候不能夠在整個國會不分朝野一起來做修正呢當時各方已經提醒預算不是不能刪但是要刪的有道理可是在當時一片混亂下通過哪裡計算究竟刪除了什麼的總預算原本還有機會藉由行政院的賦予來去考量預算刪減的合理性可是這一黨還是不願意正視造成的問題
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transcript.whisperx[365].text 所以才會有現在的結果預算審查是立法院我們的重要職責我們必須要審慎為之不要為了政治上去然後來去罔顧施政的需要不能夠只思考製造對立卻忘記人民的福祉預算審查它不是政治表演它是攸關國家運作人民生活的很嚴肅的工作我要在這邊呼籲
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transcript.whisperx[366].text 我們有過去的這樣子的經驗之後未來在審查預算的時候請記取今天的教訓我們回歸理性以國家整體利益為依據謝謝大家
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transcript.whisperx[367].text 謝謝主席
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transcript.whisperx[368].text 今天處理民眾黨的提案讓我想到今年從去年底到今年初我們在處理110年度中央政府的總預算的時候我們不斷的跟在野黨跟藍白來呼籲說你這樣亂砍中央政府的總預算尤其你都沒有說清楚你到底要砍要動哪些項目你直接用一張紙說我要砍939億
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transcript.whisperx[369].text 那你咧 如果不夠的你自己去找你就去把他砍到了939億就對了我還記得當時黃國昌講得非常的 哇!在我頭前 我保證三道國人有感三這麼多那中央政府咧 為了要維持他的運作他要去砍這個900多億逼到說他得去動到了對地方政府的一般性補助款
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transcript.whisperx[370].text 哇!這件事發布的時候我身為嘉義縣我想我們嘉義縣民都非常的憤怒這叫做什麼?叫做
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transcript.whisperx[371].text 賣到太多明明我們是支持中央政府我們支持中央政府一定要有預算因為中央有錢他就讓我藝術地方讓地方來壯大一起搶起來說壯大台灣地方跟中央要一起搶結果咧 藍白就要弱化中央讓中央沒有錢那你既然就想要讓中央沒有錢中央怎麼會有這個氣力要來補助地方咧
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transcript.whisperx[372].text 這是一定的道理嘛大餅就這一塊我們這個大餅有中央一定要有的支出也有要補分要拿來幫助地方的你現在要讓中央沒有錢當然地方會變少這都想像的到那最可惡的
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transcript.whisperx[373].text 就是黃國昌他今天這個提案要幹嘛他這個提案就是為了要有流量他要做短影音他想要在等一下投票的時候如果我們民進黨跟他們不一樣他就可以做影音說你看我是支持地方政府有預算的是民進黨反對我跟大家說黃國昌你不要再騙人了你這個組決議沒有辦法改變現況
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transcript.whisperx[374].text 你要改變現況的話,我幫你寫了一個我幫你寫了,但是我看不到你到底我幫你寫了一個114年度中央政府總預算之637億白蘭懺悔特別條例
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transcript.whisperx[375].text 我們用這個特別條例你們白蘭懺悔的特別條例我們把這637億補足 這樣中央就有預算把這些錢給地方補助夠 頂到錢這樣說對不對好 謝謝蔡議員的發言接下來我們請陳樹業委員發言葉元之委員請準備
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transcript.whisperx[376].text 院長各位同仁今天從上午到現在看到藍白兩黨的立委在這邊講的口沫橫飛義正言辭實在令人聽不下去今天這樣的惡果到底是誰造成的不就是藍白立委在這邊惡搞的結果嗎
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transcript.whisperx[377].text 他們說自己只有刪減媒體宣傳費 國內外旅費 業務費等等沒有刪對地方縣市政府的一般性補助但事實上是如何呢在上一個會期 預算會期南白假借中央政府總預算的編列史上最高所以大砍特砍 這個是事實但這邊書也要補充
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transcript.whisperx[378].text 我们中央政府总预算的一个编列都是依照这个GDP的一个比例第一年来中央政府税入和税出占GDP的比例我们可以清楚的看到从马政府蔡政府到赖政府三个时期数字大多在11%上下没有明显的差异稍微不同的地方是在于马政府任内税出是大于税入的这个意思就是马政府的时候执政成绩不好
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transcript.whisperx[379].text 经济的表现不好当然他们要举债在蔡政府执政的状况下台湾的经济持续的成长税收增加之后政府当然可以为人民做更多的事情所以我们可以编略这样子的预算来让人民可以有更好的建设跟福利所以蓝白说穿了应该是不抗拒不让民进党有生计所以他们就是大侃特侃不要让民进党好做事
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transcript.whisperx[380].text 在這個中央政府的總預算114年度的總預算被藍白聯手大砍1439億元之後還要依據藍白的主決議
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transcript.whisperx[381].text 行政院還要自行調整刪減636億元在刪減的這個數字考量這個教育經費國防安全和各項重要基礎建設預算已經沒有調整的空間之下行政院只好來暫緩來撥付這25%的一般性補助款
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transcript.whisperx[382].text 等待柴化法的釋憲結果出爐之後再與調整事實上南白兩黨如果願意以全國人民的利益為重這樣的情況根本是可以避免的因為行政院主計總處去年8月30號就已經去函各縣市政府告知有關核定今年度中央對各縣市政府一般性補助款如今立法院審議結果有所刪減將依其審議結果配合調整
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transcript.whisperx[383].text 而今天行政院必須刪減對地方縣市政府一般性的補助款就是依據立法院的這個總預算審議的一個結果所以今天這樣子的苦果就是藍白聯手造成的所以我們要請藍白要確實一個反省不要再甩鍋給賴清德總統謝謝謝謝陳樹岳委員的發言
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transcript.whisperx[384].text 接下來我們請葉元之委員發言張雅琳委員請準備
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transcript.whisperx[385].text 主席各位同仁我們今天在這邊討論這個提案是因為行政院把一般性補助款全國各縣市都刪了25%以上地方財源不足所以我們才來討論這個案子但我非常遺憾的
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transcript.whisperx[386].text 剛剛吳思堯委員通篇發言都在為行政院護航完全沒有為地方講話甚至於早上他在接受媒體訪問的時候還說請蔣萬安去找王洪威跟徐巧芯叫侯友宜來找葉元芝我是不知道啦我們大家都是一票一票市民選出來為地方爭取預算
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transcript.whisperx[387].text 那這是天經地義的但吳思瑤都完全沒有為台北市民選出他的台北市民爭取預算反而是替賴清德講話替卓榮泰講話到底這個立法委員是人民選出來的還是行政院指定的真的是讓人家非常遺憾
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transcript.whisperx[388].text 那大家都知道因為中央掌握了所有的稅收所以地方長期裁員不足必須要靠統籌稅款計劃性補助款還有一般性補助款來支撐一般縣市的運作特別是一般性補助款因為它裡面的項目包括社福教育還有一些教師的人事支出甚至一些基本的建設特別重要
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transcript.whisperx[389].text 這裡面很多都是所謂中央指定地方的法定義務支出是中央要地方去做的結果現在這些錢被砍了那行政院的說法是什麼呢說是因為省預算的時候在野黨要求行政院通商636億
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transcript.whisperx[390].text 所以他們找不到其他的錢可以砍了只好把一般性補助款全部砍掉從一般性補助款裡面砍636億我必須要講一般性補助款總共行政院編的2501億在黑黨是一毛沒有三一毛沒有三現在去砍2501億裡面的636億這完全是行政院砍的
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transcript.whisperx[391].text 那行政院難道其他的錢都動不了只能去砍這一般性補助款嗎其他錢都動不了嗎我就問啦我們要求行政院把福邊爛邊不需要花的錢砍掉
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transcript.whisperx[392].text 內政部要求各縣市政府去改中正路的路名說地方政府你改中正路的路名我們就補助你但是像這些教育社福這些不好意思我沒錢所以改中正路的路名比社福教育跟教師的人事支出還要重要我們板橋中正路大概有接近一萬個門牌
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transcript.whisperx[393].text 改了中正路這間門牌要換身分證要換也是要錢我就問中正路板橋中正路所在的張宏祿委員請問你支持中央寧可給中正路改名的錢也不給地方社福好謝謝葉元之委員的發言接下來我們請張雅玲委員發言郭育晴委員請準備
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transcript.whisperx[394].text 聽了一整個早上的國民黨委員的發言我想先說個笑話啦國民黨依法行政國民黨從去年開始的國會擴權法案就被憲法法庭判多數違憲然後他們的限訴法也都被許多我們的民間的律師們呢 撻伐這是違憲的所以國民黨今天在講依法行政我想去年一整年在破壞整個體制的就是國民黨
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transcript.whisperx[395].text 再來第二個笑話就是國民黨說他們在替人民發聲為人民著想我想回顧過去今年1月的時候我們大家是如何的苦口婆心勸他們不要這樣子刪預算但是他們只顧著耍威風
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transcript.whisperx[396].text 我想大家依稀都記得陳玉珍跟張祺凱在立法院的議場門口兩個在比誰刪得多甚至黃國昌委員也一直嗆聲就說要刪到全民有感那他們刪了什麼呢例如像中研院他們被刪了三千兩百萬這個是影響的是我們的年輕學者他們沒有辦法出國去
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transcript.whisperx[397].text 建立人脈打開眼界為國家的下一個研究墊頂基礎再來他們大幅的刪除了我們的文化部跟外交部的許多的媒宣預算這會影響到文化部今年在萬博的一個宣傳同時呢他們也刪除了國科會的29億這也會影響到AI的算力的建置還有我們的勞動部的8000萬這裡面影響到是我們的產檢補產檢架的一個補貼的薪資以及
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transcript.whisperx[398].text 他們一直說今天這樣子的一個刪減案會影響到我們很多的人力但是勞動部當時就因為被這樣子大幅刪減我們有九個承讓人力就因此而離開而且有許多的民間團體去年就開始來依據政府的一些標案來投標來做一些補助案的申請也都因為被他們這樣大幅刪減而沒有了這些預算
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transcript.whisperx[399].text 所以呢國民黨怎麼會是苦民所苦呢尤其他們去年在提刪減預算的提案是多麼的瞎例如廖先祥因為中國沒有跟宏都拉斯買蝦所以就刪減了我們的外交部預算那又是再來廖先祥因為社宅買不到鹹酥雞就刪除了我們的社宅預算
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transcript.whisperx[400].text 我想如果國民黨真心有為人民我們其實有給他第二次的機會在二月底的一個復議案的時候他們就應該要來好好的懺悔但是他們並沒有我想他們一直不停的在講說為什麼要改中正路入名喔到一天到晚喊著要反戒嚴甚至朱立倫主席連納粹都出來講的這不就是國民黨嗎那把中正路改名不就是一個徹底的來去做轉型正義的工作嗎
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transcript.whisperx[401].text 所以呢這再再的說明國民黨現在呢中心沒有任何的思想他們心中也沒有人民他們所有的辯解都是非常的蒼白無力只有自私自利做錯事不知道如何檢討只會潑髒水但是人民沒有那麼好騙所以請大家不要被他們騙繼續跟他們問責大罷免大成功謝謝好謝謝張雅玲委員的發言接下來我們請郭育晴委員發言徐宇貞委員請準備
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transcript.whisperx[402].text 主席還有各位在電視機前面正在看直播的全國的民眾早上聽了一整天然後一直到現在我們聽到這個藍白很多的委員上來就嘰噗噗的大喊大叫我真的是覺得莫名其妙
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transcript.whisperx[403].text 行政院其實對於所謂的去年年底一直到今年的1月底所有的這個總預算被刪被砍被亂動動到自己也不知道到底刪除了哪一些還有才化法的復議案在3月12號的時候大家還記得嗎是誰否決的啊
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transcript.whisperx[404].text 很清楚嘛就是61票的反對把行政院要給我們有一個補考的機會說這個部分我們至愛難行我們已經給了機會結果還是被否決了所以現在還在這邊選擇性的失憶嗎
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transcript.whisperx[405].text 針對今年這個中央總預算被大刪我用一個最清楚的方式讓大家來瞭解第一立法院三讀通過預算的時候其實藍白一口氣刪了多少整整2076億創下了歷史有史以來的新高第二更離譜的是他們不負責任的把刪除預算的工作丟給行政院怎麼說呢
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transcript.whisperx[406].text 當中有636億是完全沒有具體的刪減的項目也沒有說要從哪裡砍就一句說行政院你自己想辦法啊這不是甩鍋什麼才是甩鍋第三政府的預算不是想砍就砍有很多是一把不能刪的耶包含法律義務支出一兆5620億這些人事費用教育補助社會保險以及債務償還等等這些根本動不了
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transcript.whisperx[407].text 另外還包含國防的預算這攸關國家安全2883億公共建設2509億以及科技發展1396億我們要來支持所謂的太空科技以及淨零排碳的這個工作是完全不能刪的第四藍白你們早就已經大砍行政的機關的一個日常運作的經費了請問我們還有哪一些空間可以刪第五
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transcript.whisperx[408].text 藍白煽動預算的結果現在大家開始自己承擔現在我們看到他們是自己做賊喊抓賊突然又跳出來你們本來就不應該用不負責任捅山的方式來玩弄國家的預算我們支持你們可以監督但拜託監督要有肩膀要有專業要有誠信而不是把台灣的預算
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transcript.whisperx[409].text 當成你們政治操弄的一個工具跟舞台你們現在才意識到這會影響到育兒津貼救命前藍白你們真的好意思嗎早上六仙翔還點名我萬老師我真的要把話回給他好 謝謝郭益晴委員 謝謝我們接下來請徐宇貞委員發言林岳晴委員請準備
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transcript.whisperx[410].text 主席各位同仁大家好民國八十八年地方制度法及財政收支劃分法修正通過之後會有效落實地方自治提升地方財政自主程度中央政府從民國九十年開始推動對地方政府一般性補助款的涉算制度由行政院依公式涉算分配以協助這家縣市支應相關的基本財務支出
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transcript.whisperx[411].text 而行政院現在這種違法亂紀的野蠻行為使地方政府無法依據預期的收入規劃公共建設與政策的推動基層施政陷入困境中央政府應該依法履行財政的義務否則地方政府的
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transcript.whisperx[412].text 教育、農業、社福、交通、經濟建設等都將無以為繼最終受害的是全體的人民賴清德總統上任後提出中華民國史上最高114年度中央政府總預算案金額高達3兆1324億元而為督促中央政府提升財務效能減少不當支出及避免浪費
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transcript.whisperx[413].text 立法院依職權審議後通過兩兆9248億元的法定預算創下歷史新高比去年還增加730億元在總預算擴增的情況下行政院卻大砍地方一般性補助636億元統三各縣市一般性補助款27.3%
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transcript.whisperx[414].text 將財政壓力轉嫁給地方政府導致地方政府無法將預期規劃推動的建設真是著實荒謬一般性補助款設算制度執行二十多年來該經費已經成為地方政府重要預期收入卓榮泰院長不思檢討如何有效節用分配資源為了進行政治鬥爭與政治報復
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transcript.whisperx[415].text 反而以行政濫權的手段扣減本應撥付給地方政府的一般性補助款嚴重影響地方財政及運作國人的權益受到嚴重的損害行政院長左榮泰主導刪減地方政府一般性補助款
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transcript.whisperx[416].text 這不僅侵害了財政分配更是嚴重違反預算法與財政收支劃分法的行為行政院帶頭無視法制的程序公然違法濫權是對地方政府跟全體國民赤裸裸的壓迫請問賴清德 卓榮泰你們的心中還有人民嗎
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transcript.whisperx[417].text 行政委員作為最高的行政機關理應以身作德守法施政不應該用獨裁統治的思維故意苛扣依法應撥給地方的一般性補助款企圖製造民怨擴大社會衝突為大壩免天才火行政院罔顧法紀無限擴張行政權的做法不僅損害
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transcript.whisperx[418].text 法治的根本更為其他的機關樹立惡力一旦法律不再具有效力政府的施政也將陷入人質跟任意操控的泥沼之中好謝謝徐議貞委員的發言接下來我們請林月琴委員發言林黛嬅委員請準備
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transcript.whisperx[419].text 主席各位同僚國民黨與台灣民眾黨立法院黨團在本次預算審查的過程當中各種作為荒腔走板引發民眾的憤怒之後還要使要面子來繼續硬拗
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transcript.whisperx[420].text 今天兩黨的提案 針對包括旅費 水電費 特別費等基本經常性支出進行全面刪減 合計削減高達939億元約佔總預算的13% 刪不到939億元的部分要行政院自己想辦法刪到939億元根本連做壞事都在混
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transcript.whisperx[421].text 預算刪除攸關我們政府運作跟人民的福祉對這兩個黨來講就是一個數字遊戲拿來羞辱行政院用的工具但是全國人民都知道預算絕對不可以
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transcript.whisperx[422].text 成為這兩黨的政治遊戲亂來所造成的結果非常嚴重第一 刪除國內外旅費將導致中央機關無法做什麼事情呢執行地方實地查核 集合跟災害巡防也沒辦法做到派員參與國內與國際的會議
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transcript.whisperx[423].text 那雙邊談判跟駐外的事務甚至進行出國的進修跟國際的交流來影響我們政府人才的培訓甚至影響到刑事案件國際司法互助下犯罪者引渡被害人救援等經費
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transcript.whisperx[424].text 尤其我們在面對到美中關稅與貿易戰爭的時候導致國際供應鏈的重組的當下把政府的費用刪除便是把政府的手腳綁住讓政府走不出去第二水電費是各級機關最基本的營運支出刪除水電費後將導致各部會衛生機關教育機關社福中心圖書館沒有辦法正常運作那治安中心
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transcript.whisperx[425].text 防災指揮中心沒有電力支撐可能癱瘓掉我們的整個的緊急應變的機制所以中央政府每年是透過預算來補助地方政府辦理我們的教育、社福、交通、醫療跟公共建設我們統三案所刪減的近千億元使得中央無力提供地方各項補助
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transcript.whisperx[426].text 但我在這邊也要澄清的是今天國民黨一直在講基本上交通社福的國防公共建設沒有受到影響所以不要再亂造謠了那因為這
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transcript.whisperx[427].text 兩個政黨對於總預算粗暴的刪除939億今年上半年度中央跟地方不管在運作上都會受到一些影響都會造成吃緊的結果所以希望全民面對到這種強烈的無力感之後只能用罷免來解決這問題大罷免好 謝謝林月琴委員的發言接下來我們請林黛華委員發言王逸川委員請準備
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transcript.whisperx[428].text 商會群立法院決議刪除總預算2070億新台幣其中1439億是很明確的指定科目項目來刪除額度但是在立法院藍白主導之下的決議有多了這麼一項叫636億的新台幣的刪除要求行政院自行調整給予刪除
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transcript.whisperx[429].text 這個看似彈性 實質它是已經違反憲政體制我們的憲政體制是行政院提出預狀案來審查我們立法院來負責審議今天是立法院
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transcript.whisperx[430].text 及胡亂審議這個又要要求行政院自己來提出相關的科目所以根本就沒有進到審查之責今天的爭議所在行政院總預算上能夠支出的規劃就四大項公共建設
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transcript.whisperx[431].text 科技發展支出第三就是資本基本作業支出第四個就一般進補助款這636億難道要三公共建設嗎這就是馬上對我高雄衝擊最大的就是所有我的捷運網好難道這個636億要三科技發展支出嗎
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transcript.whisperx[432].text 那這個南白也說我們台灣也要發展這個AI智慧 甚至太空科技那現在呢也已經好大大的刪除資本作業支出也就是導致我們各部會基本的運作柴米油鹽醬醋茶也已經刪到兩成了在第四個就是現在的重點就是一般補助的支出案
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transcript.whisperx[433].text 如果這636億全部再放到基本作業支柱已經達兩成的刪除案那在這636億再放進去的話那各部會整個的作業運作就達到將近三成以上那他根本就不用運作了現在是連衛生紙連電費都沒有可能到時候大家都是摸黑進去好所以呢只能進入到一般補助的這個刪除
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transcript.whisperx[434].text 好像大家就跳起來了所以我覺得這基於一個政黨的政治責任這636億與其國民黨民眾黨說這個怪罪行政院不如你們就拿出你的行政政治的一個政治政黨的政治責任告訴我們636億到底要刪什麼如果國眾兩黨說你敢擺在說好像山寨公共建設感燒在說這個科技發展支出
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transcript.whisperx[435].text 那你就講或者你就講說這個一定要刪到一般補助支出或者你們也要繼續講說好這個趕刪在這個基本作業支出那就講出來連一個政黨的政治人物都沒有辦法來負擔好 謝謝謝謝林黛華委員的發言我們等一下王逸川委員發言完畢之後我們將會休息10分鐘10分鐘之後再請徐富奎委員發言現在請王逸川委員請發言
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transcript.whisperx[436].text 好 謝謝韓院長剛才這個案子就是郭昌阿提 人咧民眾黨人咧 八個都沒在公民黨有一個 老徐宇甄家長 抓爆抓了了今天討論這個就兩個人的原因第一 郭昌
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transcript.whisperx[437].text 我們國衝就激怒想要把蒼龍台撈開說啊這醫生啊要拿九百多億再搬大 激怒再搬大啊要九百多億 不知道要多少錢啊過去啊 什麼三十八 五十八 八十八像是說 那也不知道要拿多少啦過去啊 都要拿九百多億就不夠 自己補啊啊各位問他 啊他要補多少 我知道 你自己補所以到現在有這個差六百多億嘛 這個國衝要激怒
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transcript.whisperx[438].text 又噴汗 第一 今天要說什麼這個錢可以負責不負責第二的人 也是假的 那人叫陳玉珍啊怎麼會說陳玉珍你知道嗎 去年財政收支劃分了12月20通過 當時如果送出去 送給我們議院長院長送去立法院 總統公佈 這倒是適用的
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transcript.whisperx[439].text 陳立正發狗咧 他說因為行政院給他作業不及啦我看還是到115年的預算再來用啦今年是不要用 好 做好人做好人就對了 所以說今年喔 今年慢慢要賣你的 賣你的 賣你的才用結果呢 出事了 出事了 賣你才能贏嘛所以這套行政院抬價什麼一般性補助款 都是因為陳立正心話上
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transcript.whisperx[440].text 當時院長喔,你如果跟陳立正說要快點送,要快點試用齁這今天沒這麼的問題,整個棟都假了齁,就說還不夠我送好,陳立正發一個公文喔,你以為要說,慢點送,慢點送,慢點送理事長就這樣
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transcript.whisperx[441].text 還叫我丁英雄 傢偶 陳醫生也傢偶還說我講白賊的那個盧秀燕盧秀燕跑來行政院 都哀哀叫說你在看我們這什麼錢你不是說你台中市預算史上新高台中市今年預算是你書上最多的 最多錢的他說你行政院也最多錢行政院如果叫另外一台也不會有人 不然你台中市也不會有人
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transcript.whisperx[442].text 就這樣 用你的威來解說就好了所以我說 今天我們在這裡浪費這個時間在討論這個還不夠窮人 被人家嚇死的人沒有了現在的 現在我們整群都在討論我告訴你 這行政院這次處理這個 我個人的肯定這樣就是對的國民黨 民眾黨 自食惡果 誰管的預算 自己去給民眾算命啦
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transcript.whisperx[443].text 好 謝謝王逸川委員發言報議會現在我們休息十分鐘
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transcript.whisperx[444].text 最主要的這件事是韓國瘋了以前以前在新加坡那些學生那些學生在新加坡那些學生在新加坡那些學生在新加坡那些學生在新加坡那些學生在新加坡那些學生在新加坡那些學生在新加坡那些學生在新加坡那些學生在新加坡那些學生在新加坡那些學生在新加坡那些學生在新加坡那些學生在新加坡那些學生在新加坡那些學生在新加坡那些學生在新加坡那些學生在新加坡那些學生在新加坡那些學生在新加坡那些學生在新加坡那些學生在新加坡那些學生在新加坡
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transcript.whisperx[445].text 你怎麼有錢去韓國我這條話哪有錢去韓國我這條話哪你怎麼有錢去韓國我這條話哪你怎麼有錢去韓國我這條話哪
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transcript.whisperx[446].text 嗯嗯嗯
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transcript.whisperx[447].text 就問在教學當中
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transcript.whisperx[448].text 響鐘
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transcript.whisperx[449].text 謝謝大家收看
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transcript.whisperx[450].text 謝謝大家
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transcript.whisperx[451].text 法定人數不足
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transcript.whisperx[452].text 好好好
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transcript.whisperx[453].text 謝謝大家
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transcript.whisperx[454].text 謝謝大家
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transcript.whisperx[455].text 響鐘
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transcript.whisperx[456].text 響鐘
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transcript.whisperx[457].text 哇哦
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transcript.whisperx[458].text 現在我們繼續開會接下來請徐富奎委員發言黃秀芳委員請準備
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transcript.whisperx[459].text 謝謝主席 各位同仁針對史上最大的預算刪減屏東縣受害追生藍白兩黨倒果為因
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transcript.whisperx[460].text 身為屏東的立委我要為這樣的一個多數暴力譴責到底今年中澳總預算被刪了2076億創下歷史新高其中藍白聯手提案捧刪了939億再要求行政院自砍636億這個預算大屠殺的提案人
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transcript.whisperx[461].text 正是民眾黨的黃國昌、麥玉珍還有國民黨的傅坤祺、王宏威除了他們四位之外我更要譴責身為屏東人的國民黨委員蘇清泉、柯志恩還有民眾黨的立委林國成你們都是屏東人你們敢不敢笑
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transcript.whisperx[462].text 藍白刪除預算的理由荒唐至極 只因為預算有增加甚至黃國昌就說要抬價大家有感覺 非常非常的離譜那我們舉例台北市的預算今年增加了5.98%新北市的預算增加了4.7%桃園市也增加了9.02%台東市增加了7.62%
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transcript.whisperx[463].text 藍白兩黨有看到嗎為什麼不要求地方議會的國民黨黨團煽到人民有感
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transcript.whisperx[464].text 藍白兩黨都沒有看到我們行政院今年新增預算的一個用途包含公共建設多了2644億增加了798億增加的部分在於包含治水預算凱米颱風之後的治水預算就要增加了115億國防部主管的預算也要增加415億這些錢都是為了公共預算健保補助社會住宅甚至是國家的安全
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transcript.whisperx[465].text 兩百兩打自認以為的精打細算的一個監督就是為了要衝擊我們整個地方的一個建設受害最深的就是屏東縣被刪了52點多億元我想屏東縣的鄉親很辛苦的啦屏東縣有許多的建設陸續要動工身為第五級才藝的縣市我們有60%必須仰賴中央的補助
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transcript.whisperx[466].text 結果我們現在失去的不是不是建設跟希望而是人民失去的一個照顧我曾經擔任屏東縣政府的民政處長我知道我們努力爭取的每一份預算都是許多我們公務同仁的努力還有鄉親的地方建設的期待如今藍白兩黨只為了政治操作把人民的權益當作實驗品不顧鄉親的死活
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transcript.whisperx[467].text 預算爛砍 把變來行 預算爛砍 把變來行目前全台有30件的罷免案進入二階審查人民要的不是政客的一個算計 而是實在的建設跟未來讓台灣恢復正軌 大罷免 大成功好 謝謝徐富奎委員發言接下來我們請黃秀芳委員發言 吳秉瑞委員請準備
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transcript.whisperx[468].text 主席 各位立法院的同仁在今年年初我們在這邊高聲疾呼藍白刪減中央政府總預算那行政院也多次表達刪了這麼多的預算會至愛難行但是藍白不理會行政院必不得已必須遵照立法院的決議湊足統三的數額那因此直到中央宣布給地方的一般性補助
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transcript.whisperx[469].text 補助款減少25%之後地方才開始強烈反彈然後藍白才暴跳如雷的做了今天的一成變更那我在這邊要呼籲藍白立委如果在今年年初你們沒有
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transcript.whisperx[470].text 亂砍預算亂三預算就不會有今天的這樣的一個惡果中央政府補助地方政府的依據不論是按照地方制度法第69條或者是財政收支劃分法第30條都有明確的規範中央政府必須有裁量權那這些為什麼藍白在刪除中央政府總預算的時候為什麼沒有為地方考慮多考慮一下呢
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transcript.whisperx[471].text 沒有為了地方全面的經濟均衡發展多考慮一點呢刪除預算牽一把動全身特別是大砍統三的預算還要求行政院自己刪除藍白兩黨在今天的議程提案之前難道沒有想過今天的做法合不合理
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transcript.whisperx[472].text 行政院特別強調 刪減一般性補助款的依據是完全遵照藍白的決議自行刪減預算請問傅坤祺副總召 黃國昌主席你們現在反對什麼你們在不高興什麼這不就是你們亂刪預算 亂砍預算所造成的後果嗎
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transcript.whisperx[473].text 該不高興的應該是受到影響的人民吧藍白兩黨你們是忘了當初提案表決的狠勁了嗎當初是如何砍這樣子的預算還是你們根本不知道當初自己表決刪除了什麼
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transcript.whisperx[474].text 我要特別告訴在野黨的所有委員事實上行政院主計總署去年8月30號就去函過各縣市政府也告知有關合訂今年度中央對各縣市一般性補助款如果經過立法院審議結果有所刪減將依其審議結果配合調整
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transcript.whisperx[475].text 那我要問藍白兩黨的委員如果你們的預算提案都這麼有理請問現在怎麼這麼著急解凍預算為的是什麼這麼著急出來洗白自己不就是刪除預算的元兇那我這邊要正告所有的在野黨委員誠實的面對自己你們牽過字舉過手
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transcript.whisperx[476].text 好 謝謝黃秀芳委員的發言接下來我們請吳秉瑞委員發言郭國文委員請準備主席 各位同仁行政院去年編列預算要今年適用的時候
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transcript.whisperx[477].text 預算是編的完整的是誰刪的預算是誰刪的預算是誰刪的預算很重要講三遍不是有人包括黃國昌在外面比賽說我們誰刪多少有時候我還要比你刪更多黃國昌說要刪到讓全民有感啊
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transcript.whisperx[478].text 所以預算是誰刪除的就是藍白立法院的多數刪除的然後統三之下不負責任說行政院你自行調整的金額行政院今天自行調整了全部都跳出來罵說行政院不可以這樣調整
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transcript.whisperx[479].text 那你當初在審預算的時候要刪哪些預算就要跟人家明確啊你已經空白授權給行政機關我要給你刪這麼多那你自行調整你給我調整出來今天行政院調整了
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transcript.whisperx[480].text 有什麼地方有問題呢 邏輯沒錯嘛回過頭來反省是誰刪的預算預算是全民共有的是大家的錢無論你在哪個地方刪除 美其名叫勘緊荷包也好要幹嘛也好你無論在哪裡刪除 就有人用不到預算這是一定的沒有不可能又要馬兒好 又要馬兒不吃草
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transcript.whisperx[481].text 那我個人認為 剛剛王玉川委員在那邊責怪黃國昌 陳玉生我認為都對啦講傅坤祺不對 我也贊成可是我認為責任最大的是我們在上面的主席韓國瑜先生
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transcript.whisperx[482].text 因為過去我在立法院20年來預算審查最後都要進駐政黨協商的時候行政機關所有的這些首長要列席主計長財政部長等等這些首長要列席在預算審查在談論刪減的時候都要讓行政機關表達這是否可行
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transcript.whisperx[483].text 二十幾年來都這樣不過這一屆立委很可惜很可憐啦院長對這個過去可能不太了解雖然他以前當過立委這是我的揣測黃國昌 傅坤祺傅坤祺更不了解啊他以前當立法委員不是在炒作股票就是在坐牢嘛
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transcript.whisperx[484].text 所以他哪裡知道來預算審查的過程中藍白拼命提案我要給你砍多少就是多少也不用行政機關的首長來列席來說明這有沒有可能這做得到做不到你這樣的刪減會造成什麼樣的結果
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transcript.whisperx[485].text 都沒有經過這些過程程序亂七八糟我高興給你砍多少就砍多少一副威權然後作威作福的這樣子的姿勢導致今天的結果所以我們立法院還要繼續亂搞下去嗎大抱怨好 謝謝吳秉瑞委員的發言跟指導謝謝我們接下來請郭國文委員發言 武力華委員請準備
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transcript.whisperx[486].text 主席 各位同仁如果是國民黨黨員當中39席的區立委面臨罷免的31位立委當中我心想
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transcript.whisperx[487].text 到底今天砍的一般補助款25%之後對我有沒有影響?有!肯定有!絕對有!為什麼?今天之所以會有大罷免的風潮原因在哪裡?第一個會期的時候藍白兩黨聯手違法亂政形成一個破絕法案引起社會反彈第二個會期又亂砍運算亂修財發法所造成的結果
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transcript.whisperx[488].text 但我個人認為第二個會期的表現比第一會期還嚴重我個人認為亂砍預算比財發法的亂修更加嚴重現在報應來了我要笑的是笑國民黨被民眾黨牽著走民眾黨是一個靠流量不管區域的政黨
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transcript.whisperx[489].text 而國民黨呢有39席的區立委有16個縣市的執政首長預算的刪除對地方影響最大對區立委對縣市首長最有感他們傻傻的跟著民眾黨在走現在民眾黨黃國昌知道傳貨了就提一個建請案問題是這個建請案即便通過了以後會怎麼樣毫無法律效益啊也沒有用啊
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transcript.whisperx[490].text 所以說 黃國昌現在惹的禍誰來承擔第一個 國家要承擔國家延緩進步第二個 社會要承擔社會人民的需求被忽視舉我台南市為例亂修財政收支方法的時候我們就受到很大的一個損害但這是未來式的發展而現在呢 一般補助款呢損失了57.1億
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transcript.whisperx[491].text 為什麼補助款對台南這麼重要補助款跟財政收支法 婚法裡頭的統籌分費款不一樣啊它只有兩個原則一個是人口的原則一個是財務能力的原則人口將近兩百萬的台南市當然需要一般補助款而丟入當中財務狀況最差的也是台南市你以為你用這種砍台南市的方式你報復到賴清德了嗎
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transcript.whisperx[492].text 你以為你這種亂砍預算的方式是報復到民進黨的嗎都不是你是報復到當初支持藍黨跟白黨兩黨過半的這些支持你的民眾這些民眾被你砍了之後當然會不高興所以說也就是會有這一波大罷免最主要關鍵的原因
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transcript.whisperx[493].text 等著承受吧黃國昌惹的禍國家是要承擔沒有錯但是我必須說要買單的是誰就是要面對大罷免這31名立委大罷免一定要大成功
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transcript.whisperx[494].text 主席各位立院同仁各位網路前的親朋好友我們都知道玩火縱火的人都會說他不知道會星火燎原非常遺憾這些人竟然是立法委員要知道之所以會統刪一般性的補助款就是因為藍白兩黨亂刪預算
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transcript.whisperx[495].text 就在今年的1月21日三讀通過的總預算案整體刪減2075億其中要求行政院通刪939億扣除已經核實計算的通刪303億還有636億
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transcript.whisperx[496].text 竟然是要求行政院需自行調整刪減難道沒有提醒過嗎去年的8月30號行政院主計總署就已經去函各縣市政府告知有關核定今年度中央對各市縣一般性的補助款如果經立法院審議的結果有所刪減將依其審議結果配合調整
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transcript.whisperx[497].text 那麼經過通盤檢視後人事費不能刪教育補助不能刪國防不該刪公共建設不該刪關係到國家安全經濟發展跟民生福祉的預算都不該刪
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transcript.whisperx[498].text 然而行政機關的基本運作預算早就在前一輪的審議中被大幅刪減939加303億超過1000億如果再刪下去連政府最基本的行政服務功能都將要受到影響
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transcript.whisperx[499].text 我們都知道地方政府一定是有壓力但是冤有頭債有主這不是中央對地方的不重視而是藍白兩黨亂砍預算導致中央別無選擇的結果
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transcript.whisperx[500].text 當中央政府財政困難甚至連多個部會連冷氣都不敢開廁所連公用的衛生紙都沒有還要求中央按照一樣的水準給地方這個叫做蠻橫無理當然我們大家還是要共度難關但是我們要把話說清楚追根究底如果不是藍白亂三預算毫不考慮刪減的後果
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transcript.whisperx[501].text 這636億根本不必砍地方政府也不會遭受波及這筆賬人民會記得是誰造成的這一切的源頭就是藍白在立法院所做的惡事 莽莽撞撞這一屆的立法院前所未見的慣是易羅光如果我們不想年年出現這種亂象唯一的方式就是拜託大家大罷免大成功 謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[502].text 主席 各位委員先生
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transcript.whisperx[503].text 最近這段時間,我們看到各縣市政府略修出來合約,希望中央可以依照原先決定的分配手段來協助經費
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transcript.whisperx[504].text 但是現在我們在這裡要討論的這項議案是要將他做成貴議要求行政院要抹上一半的補助款很快來補給地方政府這項提案看起來是表明非常合理是這項所謂顛倒是非 邏輯錯亂
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transcript.whisperx[505].text 用這種方式要企圖來顧及民眾 推卸責任 真的是無良勢頭無路無際 無白亂共 台人崩壞 還要罵別人行政院為什麼要給補助地方的一般性補助款三件到底為什麼
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transcript.whisperx[506].text 因為我們在前段期間在南北聯手集合總總議選選舉到2075年並且在新議會時並沒有選擇總選舉的組織組織組織組織組織組織組織組織組織組織組織組織組織組織組織
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transcript.whisperx[507].text 減裂六百三十六億 要他們自己去想辦法這不然讓中央政府在市政方面受到很大的衝擊
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transcript.whisperx[508].text 也因為如處行政院以通宣地方一般性補助款來因應這會讓各縣市政府連帶受到影響本席這整個禮拜也受到議員館政府的公文表示來自中央所協定一般性的補助款不能如期來分配造成館戶災難的困難過去我也是來自議員館議會非常清楚這件事對議員館來說影響很大
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transcript.whisperx[509].text 尤其宜蘭縣今年衛生規模差不多是300億在一般性補助款比通商25%以後原本設定要給宜蘭縣的93.6億現在只存64億對於宜蘭縣輝瑪多這種農業平台的管制來說
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transcript.whisperx[510].text 一般性補助款的災源對於管政的推動非常非常重要若是災源不足會對社會福利、教育導入、基礎建設的相關業務都會受到很大的影響中醫生的亂象已經發生,福利要重慶的機會也已經超過現在要解決管政的困境,不應該也沒辦法
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transcript.whisperx[511].text 好 謝謝陳俊宇委員的發言接下來我們請審發會委員發言賴會員委員請準備
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transcript.whisperx[512].text 各位同仁今天我們為什麼會在這裡討論這個案子我想這個大家都講了很多了這是因為我們在114年度中央政府總預算的審查在去年整個行政院被刪除2076億這裡面其中的636億那時候立法院決議說由行政院自行調整
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transcript.whisperx[513].text 那行政院在經過衡量對中央政府的各項職能影響最小的情況之下他決定調整了他對地方的一般性補助結果今天在野黨說不行跳出來他們說我們來看他們說這個這樣不行那我們就來看到底行不行啊
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transcript.whisperx[514].text 就是說行政院今天所做的這樣子的調整我們看幾個指標第一個看他有沒有違法如果有違法那我反對行政院這樣調整第二個我看他有沒有違反立法院的決議如果有違反立法院的決議我們今天我們也反對行政院這樣調整第三我們看他是不是針對在野黨執政的限制故意修理如果只針對在野黨執政的限制那我也反對我個人我也反對我覺得不可以這樣
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transcript.whisperx[515].text 那我們就一個一個來看啊今天來調整這個一般性的地方的補助這個它的法源依據是什麼
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transcript.whisperx[516].text 一般性補助的法源依據他第一個地方制度法第69條第一項他說為上級政府這個各上級政府為謀求地方均衡發展對於財力較差的地方政府應著於補助第二個法源依據是財政收支劃分法現行的財政收支劃分法第30條第一項他說中央政府為謀求全國經濟平衡發展得著於補助地方政府
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transcript.whisperx[517].text 什麼叫得 就是我可以補助可以不補助什麼叫著與 就是說我來斟酌 斟酌我現在我的預算被砍了多少我的預算有多少 我來斟酌之後我來補助所以行政院這次這樣子的調整 他這是依法我看起來就是沒有違法啊 沒有違法更何況這次的一般補助 一般補助款不是說全部刪除他的刪除25%
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transcript.whisperx[518].text 第二個他有沒有違反立法院的決議我們立法院決議說你自行調整啊你刪檢之後你自行調整那自行調整他就是自行調整啊他也沒有調整到調整到不是中央政府總預算的部分啊
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transcript.whisperx[519].text 所以他也沒有違法第三個他是不是針對在野黨不是所有甚至民進黨執政的縣市影響更大他是統一一個公視下去沒有辦法預算被刪成這樣子我只好這樣調整
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transcript.whisperx[520].text 那沒有違法又沒有違反立法院決議他又不是特別針對特定政黨那今天到底在反對什麼呢你們決議是你們做的餒你們多數是你們做的決議的餒你們今天決議自行調整結果行政院這樣調整你說不行這個不能調整那下次即使今天通過了要是行政院再調整另外一項你們要跳出來說這個不行這個也不行調整你搞得行政院很
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transcript.whisperx[521].text 好 謝謝省發會委員的質詢發言接下來我們請賴會員委員發言羅美玲委員請準備
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transcript.whisperx[522].text 主席、各位同仁、全國關心台灣民主的好朋友今天本席必須要用一種非常嚴肅來探討行政院在處理地方一般性補助款三減比例的一個做法
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transcript.whisperx[523].text 這次行政院將各縣市一般補助款一例齊頭式削減砍了27%本席認為這個做法確實值得探討因為在全國每一個縣市縣市政府的發展情形跟財政明顯不同用一刀切的一個方式是會讓我們南部尤其是
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transcript.whisperx[526].text 光是台南直接就損失到51.68億這51.68億這個是我們台南這些補助款是用來要做我們的龍水路用來做教育用來做攝護用來做交通甚至連基本的人事調動都一切不補每一筆錢都是地方發展不可或缺的
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transcript.whisperx[528].text 我覺得這個人啊你 心啊你 鬼啊你黃國昌又是你真的實在是讓大家非常非常的不滿更離譜的是黃國昌在提案中甚至講到行政院要立刻立刻補足這個足額補助給地方政府竟然沒有提到說當初刪減掉的那636億呢他從哪裡來了
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transcript.whisperx[530].text 好謝謝賴會員委員的發言接下來我們請羅美玲委員發言王美惠委員請準備抱怨會現在在議場二樓旁邊是林月琴委員一起陪伴來東吳大學有71位同學我們掌聲歡迎啊各位小學弟小學妹好請羅美玲委員請發言
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transcript.whisperx[531].text 主席各位同仁這兩天藍白兩黨對行政院刪減地方一般性補助款的批評根本是顛倒是非盜國為因大家不要忘記在今年的1月22號國民黨跟民眾黨仗著在立法院掌握多數的優勢
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transcript.whisperx[532].text 強行大砍中央政府總預算而且想砍多少就砍多少胡砍亂砍那其中呢還要求行政院自行調整3.636億從財化法的修法爭議到總預算審查過程
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transcript.whisperx[533].text 民進黨的立委跟行政團隊不斷的警告中央政府的基本支出攸關全民的民生經濟教育國防安全醫療照顧跟社會福利請在野黨切勿
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transcript.whisperx[534].text 輕率刪減可是呢藍白兩黨一意孤行無視專業甚至民眾黨的總召黃國昌還曾經放話預算一定要刪到讓人民有感把整個預算審議搞成一場政治鬥爭那好了現在
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transcript.whisperx[535].text 人民確實很有感所以才有這次的大罷免浪潮甚至到現在連地方政府都非常有感其實行政院早在2024年8月就正式函文各地方政府如立法院刪減相關的預算地方補助將依照結果進行調整
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transcript.whisperx[536].text 行政院完全是以立法院決議形式審慎調整補助款依法行政尊重國會國民黨本來就知道砍預算會影響地方於是趕緊修正財化法第30條想避免分配款被刪減可是今年的總預算案在1月就通過了財化法3月才修正根本無法速及
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transcript.whisperx[537].text 既往也就是說114年的預算案無法適用剛剛聽到有狼白的委員說砍補助款是犧牲人民的福祉
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transcript.whisperx[538].text 可是呢你们这不就是在说自己吗当初乱款议算的不就是你们蓝白立委吗所以说现在想要甩锅给中央政府真的是非常的可笑那说穿了蓝白本来就是要联手让中央断水断粮再反过来再骂中央不给水不给粮这种只顾自己政党利益
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transcript.whisperx[539].text 不顾国家治理的行为已经到了让人无法忍受的地步请问大家还要让国会继续给蓝白恶搞下去吗更何况今天民众党所建起的这一个这个提案根本也就是没有法律的效应所以呢所以说胡搞乱搞之下受遭殃的其实还是人民所以请大家一起来大罢免大成功
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transcript.whisperx[540].text 主席
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transcript.whisperx[541].text 好 當時跟我們電視機前面的鄉親朋友 尤其看珠寶的好朋友 大家的朋友好我相信你們關心台灣的未來在今天有早早說到現在 實在不知道要怎麼說
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transcript.whisperx[542].text 國民黨也好 民眾黨也好在正當的集體會 到議會的時候心意深 我們就來拜託說如果有做得不好的是不是可以讓審判單位來解說 讓他們可以做得更好
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transcript.whisperx[543].text 沒有議會,我們這兩黨的,國會這兩黨的,都沒有聽到話五百山,五百黨,黨自己不知道在做什麼,不知道叫人家說,如果沒有堂食,要去買麥當勞這個立委,實在會去找死人
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transcript.whisperx[544].text 因為我們都想說,忙啊忙,等啊等,有等到良心的動,可以讓鄉親有一個福音案,讓鄉親可以有一個機會來改變我們台灣。
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transcript.whisperx[545].text 時時刻刻都說有史以來今年的遺產最多我在這裡要問我們好同事要問我們有在看珠寶的好朋友
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transcript.whisperx[546].text 正當我們去買東西,如果一碗切仔麵30塊,今年是不是要35塊?這個國家要建設,哪有可能沒錢給他生的?
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transcript.whisperx[548].text 民進黨希望在所有的地方一般的步驟來三馬每一步都是台灣人站上去的我相信憲政院的院長要做這件事是非常的艱苦所以有告訴我一個大部分都成功了
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transcript.whisperx[549].text 好 謝謝王美惠委員的發言接下來我們請柯志恩委員發言何新淳委員請準備
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transcript.whisperx[550].text 谢谢院长还有我们在场的立法院的同事行政院砍伤地方一般性的补助这么一个明确的事实从早上到现在不同的政党再在这边发言所讲的都完全不一样
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transcript.whisperx[551].text 民进党呢从这个会期开始主词不管是任何的议题一定是蓝白毁线乱政乱砍预算最后的结束呢一定是大罢免大成功这个如念经的方法听得每个人的耳朵都讲解了
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transcript.whisperx[554].text 希望你能够竭尊预算对于一些膨胀的水电费出国的经费像速发布的出国的经费连很多人都看不下去了还有包括你的政策宣传请你好好的不要去避免去浪费民脂民膏结果呢给你方便你却是当随便你却把整个刀口放在我们的地方拿地方来做出气
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transcript.whisperx[555].text 要把深减重要的额度转嫁给地方政府罔顾地方政府的节居刀刀都是砍向人民的福祉你会不会觉得你太狠心了这不是报复什么才叫报复而且昨天行政院回应说通案通山是按立法院的要求
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transcript.whisperx[557].text 一切都說沒有錢但是遇到中正路要來改名我們的內政部長整個人就活血起來了要多少補多少不是沒有錢嗎所以這個錢完全是根據你要的項目來做施捨我們還是再一次的強調這些是法定要給予地方的錢不是看你行政院的顏色藍白綠的立委
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transcript.whisperx[558].text 應該集體跟行政院要錢而不是在這個地方重複一堆沒有意義的語言
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transcript.whisperx[559].text 藍白在野亂山總預算是事實再強調一次藍白亂山總預算是事實藍白亂山總預算是事實再怎麼野蠻也不能亂砍預算這句話我想大家應該還記得
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transcript.whisperx[560].text 台灣過去也曾出現過嘲笑野大的情況但是後來人民用選票來表達強烈的抗議20年後再也難白在國會多數今年出非理性的三減總預算再怎麼野蠻
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transcript.whisperx[565].text 收到抽出預計的稅收他願意與地方共享撥給台中75億當時盧秀燕市長宣布說24億要給25個學校蓋活動中心禮堂到現在還一直風光的在舉辦開工典禮當時候大家同一鍋飯中央跟地方願意一起合作 努力共好
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transcript.whisperx[568].text 主席 各位在場的好朋友今天大家吵的啊 兇手到底是誰啊到底誰是兇手 誰砍了這個總預算按照我們整個預算法的規定啊中央政府啊 它確實是有這個義務啊為了均衡地方的發展然後對於地方一般性的補助地方制度法 或者才化法裡面規定得很清楚啊
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transcript.whisperx[570].text 不要忘記了 中央政府對地方政府一般的一個補助那也是在整個總預算在藍白聯手所通過的總預算的範圍裡面現在行政院跟你講呢就跟你說 你這刪減了2075億其中636億裡面呢 你要我進行刪減我找不出其他的有油水的地方來了
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transcript.whisperx[573].text 然後呢在立法院藍白又聯手又賞了我們一個和珊巨蟋來演繹我再次講一次啊藍白聯手在台灣真的不是什麼好東西啊所以我必須要講啊真正砍預算的到底是誰就是在立法院裡面藍白聯手你多數
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transcript.whisperx[574].text 你在砍的時候你作威作福 你覺得你好偉大我好大的權力 砍啊砍完以後呢 你再告訴行政院說你怎麼都像地方一般進補助你怎麼都像台府那樣 我是叫你台立中央的好厲害啊 像媽寶一樣巨人馬上就變成巨嬰了台東人不嚴重 台東很嚴重啊就是有你們這家巨嬰媽寶啊你自己砍的啊
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transcript.whisperx[575].text 好 謝謝莊瑞雄委員發言接下來我們請在內容委員發言馬文君委員請準備
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transcript.whisperx[577].text 任你違憲之後然後繼續癱瘓癱瘓掉整個大法官會議讓大法官也無法運作然後接下來就是今天的這樣的重點包括財化法包括亂刪總預算各位試想國民黨過去在執政時代或任何時代的時候有這樣的刪預算的方式嗎連刪了多少總預算連給行政機關說的機會都沒有然後刪掉636億連刪哪裡都說你執行調整
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transcript.whisperx[578].text 好歹你要刪預算你把明確性點出來哪裡不適合哪裡該怎樣點出來沒有表示你也刪到了你不知道要刪什麼了刪到了你知道刪過頭了然後636億要求行政機關自行調整那行政機關怎麼調整他連他基本人事費連他基本水電費連所有的費用都已經被砍光了他最後當然只剩下補助款可以做處理嘛
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transcript.whisperx[581].text 到現在為止柯之恩的藍白立委還不知道自己犯了什麼錯還堅持在硬凹如果當時636億不是你們堅持要刪刪到人民有感不是亂刪怎麼會有今天這樣的結果所以根本的問題點就在於藍白的國會藍白的多數如果到現在還不知道自己錯在哪裡還在硬凹
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transcript.whisperx[582].text 還要欺騙國人的話那我想人民就會給予你們最大制裁不要以為你們這樣亂搞人民會接受我這次還是要強調亂搞台灣亂搞國會大罷免就一定會大成功好 謝謝賴瑞榮委員的發言報告委員會接下來馬文君委員發言完畢之後我們會休息十分鐘休息完畢之後請林怡瑾委員準備發言現在請馬文君委員請發言
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transcript.whisperx[583].text 行政院主席總署發文給各地方政府將刪減一般性補助款而且也短波了普通統籌分配稅款根據南投縣政府的資料今年中央核定給南投縣的一般性補助款本來是128.01億元未來
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transcript.whisperx[584].text 在補助款的部分將短波35億元比例高達了27.3%這個影響最大的就是社會福利跟教育包括對於低收入戶的家庭
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transcript.whisperx[585].text 低收入戶家庭的兒童就學教育的補助還有老農津貼中低收入戶老人生活津貼以及身心障礙者的生活補助還有學校的水電費包括國中小他的冷氣電費學生的營養午餐還有校舍修繕等等的經費還包括了一些相關的水利工程還有清淤跟輸菌這些對於經常有天災或者受到
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transcript.whisperx[586].text 水土保持影響的這些都是在在跟基層民眾的生活和安全息息相關的而且對於南投縣而言補助款短少也會嚴重影響到縣府對於偏鄉民眾以及學童的照顧
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transcript.whisperx[590].text 沒有跟地方政府溝通的情況之下直接刪除地方政府的重要財源民進黨分明這個就是家暴政府沒有去思考到自我尊潔也不管地方的死活這個懲罰人民欺負弱勢的做法其實
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transcript.whisperx[592].text 主席 各位同仁以傅坤祺 黃國昌為首的藍白兩黨就是一群敢做不敢當的拘英政客
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transcript.whisperx[593].text 不要再拋棄了啦國民黨和民眾黨應該要大方承認瑕疵636億就是他們想要刪掉台灣的國防預算公共建設還有科技發展經費他就是要把我們台灣抹斷啦
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transcript.whisperx[594].text 國民黨年初配合黃國昌囂張提案應要刪掉國家總預算939億750萬最後找不到理由刪竟然還叫行政院自己刪掉636億藍白居英政客說
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transcript.whisperx[595].text 行政院編的預算太多啦應該要節省開支結果咧說得出哪一條預算是多編的嗎為什麼是叫政院自己調整自己刪了636億的這個數字這是哪門子的預算監督品質愛搞政治鬥爭又不敢負責任不敢告訴國人你到底要刪哪一筆經費真是荒謬國民黨跟民眾黨諸位俱因行政院是不是有拜託你們
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transcript.whisperx[596].text 接受復議是不是有拜託你們審慎思考這樣子的大幅度的三預算是不妥當的結果呢你們一票一票否決了行政院的提議放棄改正錯誤的機會逼迫全民承擔後果
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transcript.whisperx[597].text 用盡這種方法 勸你們亂刪預算 你們不聽提醒你們刪除的預算項目 如果不寫清楚一定會違背責任政治的原則這件事情 被你們當而邊封結果現在你們亂搞出來的苦果黃國昌又跳出來要求行政院立刻將一般性補助款 足額撥付於地方政府
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transcript.whisperx[598].text 有沒有搞錯啊叫政院自己大三預算是你黃國昌現在叫政院不能自己大三預算又是你黃國昌行政院已經盡全力挽救636億的經費但是被藍白駁回最後卡了到國防外交乃至於全國性的教育資源也絕對不能刪減在不得不的狀況之下才忍痛刪減一般性的補助款
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transcript.whisperx[599].text 建議藍白兩黨不要再空口說白話如果636億你們想站在我們的國防外交上你們就大聲說出來當個真小人不要學黃國昌當個偽君子眼下台灣人該走的路應該非常的清楚罷免傅坤祺就是罷免黃國昌罷免國民黨就是罷免民眾黨大罷免大成功
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transcript.whisperx[600].text 主席 我們各位同仁
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transcript.whisperx[601].text 去年12月20號在野黨主導三讀通過的財劃法要求中央提撥3753億預住地方這樣的金額大幅的增加中央財政的負擔卻未經完整的財劃規劃未做財政的影響評估
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transcript.whisperx[602].text 更為說清楚錢從哪裡來請問這樣的立法是為了人民負責還是單純的為了政治加分更令人無法想像的在野黨在中央政府總預算審查時在野黨不但為針對具體的項目進行審慎審查反而直接提出一些荒唐的
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transcript.whisperx[603].text 結議要求行政院自行刪減636億卻不指明應刪除的合項也未進行實質的討論就同等於將預算砍三隨意丟給行政部門這樣的行為不僅破壞預算審查的專業與程序正義更將所有的責任推給行政部門來做承擔
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transcript.whisperx[604].text 今天行政院被迫統三檢各部會的經費甚至三檢隊一般性的補助25%不是因為意願而是迫於無奈的選擇請各位同仁這不是立法這是脫序應該監督這是我們的責任我也向各位在場報告像在我們的選區新北社
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transcript.whisperx[605].text 你看新北市光是一年一般性的補助111億包含教育交通社會基礎建設那光是重大的建設的挹注像山陰縣我們中央就挹注185億萬大縣的工程就挹注172億包含司法延期就中央也編列了171億包含京城交流道也挹注了
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transcript.whisperx[606].text 59億包含種種零零在選區就超過了好幾百億所以未來未來未來真的我們地方的建設你說過去對地方的藝術是非常多的敬畏那未來反而會自愛地方的建設所以在這邊本席向各位來做說明謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[607].text 謝謝吳啟明委員的發言接下來我們請許智傑委員發言邱毅英委員請準備
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transcript.whisperx[608].text 好 主席 各位同仁 大家好宗教有講因果關係啦正什麼因 定什麼過善惡到頭終有報不是不報只是時機會到或者是早到晚到國民黨這段時間大罷免都怪民進黨說你為什麼做這麼慷慨說民眾對大罷免有意見事實上它的因是什麼它的因就是
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transcript.whisperx[609].text 這一陣子 這一年多以來沒關係 擴全法案 限訴法 選罷法 裁劃法我們在地方這幾年來 感覺很無奈以前在王金平院長的時候其實大家都很好溝通
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transcript.whisperx[610].text 現在這一年來幾乎都沒有辦法溝通你可以看到前面這幾個案子國民黨都是硬搞藍白在一起都是硬搞所以這段時間其實全國的民眾都感覺你們立法院運氣很亂很無奈所以為什麼大罷免可以有這麼多人連署這個就是百姓的聲音在怒吼我們拿這一次的採訪法
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transcript.whisperx[611].text 國民黨刪掉請行政院自行刪減636億高雄市長陳其邁跟我們在立法院一樣也一直在呼籲你要改的財化法如果比現在更好那再來說那我們都認為沒有比現在更好為什麼你一定要強行過關強行過關以後 刪掉那麼多錢然後呢 尤其是各個部會的業務費刪掉三成到七成
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transcript.whisperx[612].text 國民黨說,我如果不給你都抬啊,有一部分本預算被刪掉就叫抬掉你的肉。給業務費刪掉的,刪到三成到七成的,這叫拿車子把你的車子都拔掉,讓你沒辦法去做工作。然後呢,又再加這636億,你們要自己決定。說實在的,我也知道行政院很無奈。
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transcript.whisperx[613].text 那其實我們區域立委我們高雄的 台南的 屏東的其實我們還有很多我們區域立委我們都全力赴行這個3掉25%左右我認為應該是這樣講國民黨區域立委贊成3減的這個縣市要省比較多我們這種全力赴行的應該要省比較少
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transcript.whisperx[614].text 這樣子才公平 我們是要顧預算公平的話是三預算 結果統三的我們也希望行政院有機會可以調整跟國民黨 區議會都贊成的這個管制就省比較多了尤其我看到前面柯志恩在笑柯志恩你是要去國用選擇中的你沒有好好顧他所以我們感覺很不滿我們希望說大家一起來讓我們立法院可以恢復正常大發明大成功 謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[615].text 好 謝謝許智傑委員的發言接下來請邱毅英委員發言 王定宇委員請準備主席 各位委員大罷免大成功真的是沒有意義的話語嗎
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transcript.whisperx[616].text 如果他是一句沒有意義的話語國民黨今天不會登記高達16個人上來發言每一位國民黨的委員上來大部分都在講刪了一般性的補助款對地方的影響有多大但是你們可能忘記了大罷免的風起雲湧就在於你們去年開始亂刪總預算開始的
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transcript.whisperx[617].text 所以我要告訴柯知恩委員大罷免大成功絕對不是沒有意義的語言而是它是一個非常有意義的就是因為全台灣的人民看到了你們亂刪預算決定要大罷免決定要讓國家回到正軌
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transcript.whisperx[618].text 您應該還記得您在跑高雄基層的時候包括陳其邁市長包括很多高雄市的市民朋友都拜託您不要亂刪預算你都說你沒辦法因為是富坤崎在主導
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transcript.whisperx[619].text 如果這件事情昨天這個一般性補助款沒有傷到您的話為什麼您從昨天到現在連發了好幾篇的臉書為什麼國民黨的委員從今天早上到現在連連不斷的在哭慘喊窮在告訴行政院要恢復一般性的補助款連筷子手黃國昌人也是他鬼也是他今天提了這樣的一個
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transcript.whisperx[620].text 草案議事日程要求行政院立即將一般性補助款足額撥付地方政府我們要藉由這個機會再一次提醒全國人民亂砍預算
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transcript.whisperx[621].text 造成今天全台灣的苦果筷子手就是國民黨就是傅坤祺就是民眾黨的黃國昌所帶領的藍白黨團而柯之恩委員你要選高雄市的市長你有沒有站出來為高雄爭取過一分一毫你有沒有站出來為高雄說過一句話你有沒有站出來指責過傅坤祺你有沒有出來要求傅坤祺
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transcript.whisperx[622].text 不要亂搞台灣的預算你沒有你跟著他們舉手你跟著他們笑嘻嘻的舉手毀壞台灣的憲政然後你現在在這裡罵我們說著沒有意義的話我再一次告訴你大罷免大成功是一個絕大的意義因為未來他成功之後會把台灣
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transcript.whisperx[623].text 導入正軌 他成功智慧會讓高雄市的市民知道不應該選你當高雄市市長好 謝謝邱毅英委員的發言現在我們請王定宇委員發言林郡縣委員請準備
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transcript.whisperx[624].text 在今年初台北新北桃園台中宣布他們的總預算創歷史新高創歷史新高當我們地方的總預算創歷史新高的時候國家整體在發展總體經濟在成長因應的業務在增加中央我們全國總預算當然也創新高藍白怎麼處理這些事情的
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transcript.whisperx[625].text 今天地方的縣市首長說我減了1%我沒辦法施政這個不能做 那個不能做黃國昌也好 傅坤祺也好中國國民黨跟民眾黨說了一句很有名的話預算那麼多 背三一點點就不會做事不會做事就下台
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transcript.whisperx[626].text 當中央要辦理國防 外交 教育 社會福利全國性的醫療 健保 治水 交通他有必須要辦的業務苦苦哀求說預算的刪減動大家要討論藍白不討論 爛刪 爛減 爛動成功的時候還高興不已
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transcript.whisperx[627].text 現在國民黨執政的院轄市預算創新高減了一點點我可以體會那種心情因為我們台南市我們沒有做錯任何事情台南卻被減少了51.6億
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transcript.whisperx[628].text 51.6億台南每一席的立委都支持預算應該正常討論 健康的來討論藍白狂三濫減動預算新北少30台北少31他們說這樣的施政會面對問題權力的濫用正是大罷免民怨的開始
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transcript.whisperx[629].text 我們在當兵的時候最怕一種老兵給你一百塊叫你去買一箱啤酒買兩盤滷味三碗麵叫你找五十塊回來就好今天三減預算的是藍白總預算砍了一千四要你自己再砍六百多才化法還要拿走三千多叫你中央這個要做那個要做工糧收購要調高
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transcript.whisperx[630].text 現在呢必須遵照藍白的指示把預算做統三的減少減636億台南屏東高雄合估源頭在那裡
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transcript.whisperx[631].text 審查預算的時候委員會中心主義不見了委員會討論的結論完全不遵守丟了幾張紙三千多個案就要刪減權力的傲慢導致人民的憤怒罷免會成功
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transcript.whisperx[632].text 好 謝謝王定宇委員的發言報告院會我們根據黨團共識下午五點要進行本案之表決處理現在我們最後一位發言林俊憲委員發言完畢我們即將進行本案之處理我們現在請林俊憲委員發言好感謝主席
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transcript.whisperx[633].text 我要在這裡先提醒我們本會同仁去年的年底去年行政院在8月30號就發文給各縣市政府行政院那東西就說了他提的幾項補助 一般性補助的原則其中這個公文裡面就告訴各縣市政府我講的時間點是去年的8月30號
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transcript.whisperx[634].text 他跟國管理政府說 我們的一般性補助啊若恰恕立法院審議結果有所刪減 就按照審議結果做調整今天就是藍白的立委 你把這一般性補助款拆掉鄉長他哭泥就說 說你若再刪減 我對你們國管理政府的補助 我就要對著減
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transcript.whisperx[635].text 但是啦 鄉親的口徑我們可以拿回來行政院有國家要新辦的業務啦 教育啦 國防啦那個關懷弱勢啦 等等但是啦 齊頭市的這位台25%也好 27%也好這實在真沒公平你這樣台下去之後變成啦 預算三最多的是屏東 高雄跟台南
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transcript.whisperx[636].text 屏東 九雄 台南 這些都最支持你行政院預算這樣就不對了啦所以行政院如果非砍不可照你講 什麼人抓出來 我們就要找他算帳國民黨兩百兩台要砍預算應該要以 國管制 國民黨的立委 蔣的釋出的筆勒他這樣做下去不太對
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transcript.whisperx[637].text 都國民黨押注在台府省的啊所以行政院啊 應該要趕快調整啦這個一般性補助款 給國管制 你如果要抬薪你現在 變成這麼大的 比就這麼大你藍白把行政院的 要他砍掉939億怎麼可能的 他一定對地方的補助會檢討的
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transcript.whisperx[638].text 所以啊 國民黨啊 現在問題要發 事情就是你們了解出來所以我也在這裡向前面說 要堅定的步驟 硬在這裡按照 還管齊國民黨裡面釋出的比例 都是你們台府省的要讓他們付出代價 要讓各縣市的選民了解你們選出什麼樣的國民黨立委 在亂砍預算
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transcript.whisperx[639].text 所以啊為什麼要大罷免的火越燒越烈大罷免的必要性有日本的總預算大家就看得出來大罷免一定要大成功國家才有希望啦謝謝啦
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transcript.whisperx[640].text 好 謝謝林俊憲委員的發言報告委員會現在時間已經超過5點我們依照黨團的共識定於下午5點進行本案之表決大體討論的發言進行到此為止已經登記發言沒有來得及發言的委員之書面發言的意見我們均補列入公報記錄報告委員會現在開始進行表決按鈴7分鐘並開始分發表決卡
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transcript.whisperx[641].text 好 報告院會是否每位委員都有拿到表決卡好 都有拿到表決卡我們現在進行開始處理現在有不同的黨團分別針對本案提議
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transcript.whisperx[642].text 一 國民黨團提議交付財政委員會審查二 民進黨團提議不予審查我們現在依照提議先後順序進行表決如果其中有一案通過我們就不再處理其他案
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transcript.whisperx[643].text 抱怨會現在針對國民黨黨團提交付財政委員會審查開始進行表決現在民進黨台灣民眾黨黨團要求記名表決我們記名表決贊成國民黨黨團提交付財政委員會審議審查請按贊成反對請按反對時間一分鐘現在開始
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transcript.whisperx[644].text 報告委員會報告表決結果在場委員106位贊成57位反對49位贊成者多數國民黨黨團提議照案通過本案交付財政委員會審查憲民受害 救世貪財 二產預算
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transcript.whisperx[645].text 好 謝謝報告院會其他黨團的提議我們就不再處理列入公報記錄報告院會依照黨團共事本日會議進行到此為止5月27號星期二上午9點繼續開會進行後續討論事項現在休息