| IVOD_ID |
167002 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/167002 |
| 日期 |
2026-01-08 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-4-36,35-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期司法及法制、外交及國防委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
35 |
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司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
外交及國防委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期司法及法制、外交及國防委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-01-08T11:39:16+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-01-08T11:46:53+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:37 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/125fd21c0e10f543824a248acc6bd3b3067a41bab2fb0fea1d89202e029a9f20f642cddcd8afeba65ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
賴士葆 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:39:16 - 11:46:53 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-01-08T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期司法及法制、外交及國防委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：併案審查
（一）行政院函請審議「陸海空軍刑法第二十四條條文修正草案」案。
（二）委員林宜瑾等18人擬具「陸海空軍刑法第二十四條條文修正草案」案。
（三）委員王定宇等16人擬具「陸海空軍刑法第二十四條條文修正草案」案。
（四）委員張雅琳等18人擬具「陸海空軍刑法第二十四條條文修正草案」案。
（五）委員李坤城等 19 人擬具「陸海空軍刑法第二十四條條文修正草案」案。
【第（一）案如經院會復議，則不予審查；第（五）案各黨團若未提出不復議同意書，則不予審查】） |
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謝謝主席來跟你捧場有請國安部的副部長來 請副部長 |
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大委員好你好我看今天修法提案的對於這個軍人啊這個陸海空在什麼情況之下加重刑罰其實老實講現在民進黨執政十年了咧這個這個提這個東西啊就提吧我們好好的討論公聽會好好的討論但是我要提的是我們要看 |
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共諜啊共諜都在哪裡共諜都在綠營裡面啊賴清德當副總統的時候他裡面就有共諜然後吳釗燮當國安會秘書長的時候他當外交部長的共諜後來高升為這個國安會的秘書長 |
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然後這個民進黨的這個立委裡面也助理共諜我不知道你這個這個其實共諜更加的規範我們國防部有沒有想到規範要共諜 |
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共鐵 郭委員幫我們現在修這整個陸海空軍刑法第24條是針對軍人的部分是啊 我現在提醒你啦其實對國家危害更大的是共鐵啦他把國家的機密一捆一捆的帶走然後帶去哪裡你可以看到這個這個外交部長吳釗燮那時候當當部長的時候短短的時間調了八個邦交國然後跟他的助理 |
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這麼close的助理 他是共諜 沒有關係嗎他的行程全部被掌握 對不對他到現在還高居這個 國安委的秘書長不要忘啦 大家都了解啊 |
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你現在規範這個 我就說怎麼在工地都沒有看到工地剛剛就規範第二個問題 我想我們現在這個F16失事我們現在是很難過的10年裡面摔了 就是飛機失事11次我看前面也有 我也問你這個問題的我就請教你 |
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關於這一次的飛行員他這件的整個事件你們國防部是不是已經有初步的調查結果 有沒有出來目前還沒有外界都不斷的跟你分析 就兩個嘛一個電腦的問題 一個是什麼飛行的事情 夜間飛行的問題 |
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第一個部分是先跟委員報告就是說我們現在是全力在加強整個搜救這個整個失事的飛行員為主來做檢討那第二個部分因為整個失事的原因包含到環境人為跟機械那這個部分會必須要等到後續的一個檢討才能確定跟委員做 |
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我們的有關於飛機的維修這一部分還被審計部打槍咧審計部八月份是出了一個審計報告說三十幾項你們只能夠維修兩項而且我們又大言不慚的又開幕好大的陣仗2020年的時候成立一個F16維修中心 |
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瓦站獨瓦站要怎麼講我都沒有意見反正這個資源在你們手上你可以想好好做F16我們已經有將近140架139架左右再加上要來的66架全世界最大的F16的地方就是台灣成立維修中心很好 |
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但是呢 工人不加你現在看 還是10年 F16 失事11次不可為不多吧對不對 失事每次都有它的原因你剛剛講 氣候原因什麼之類的但是跟 這一次跟它的維修很有關係喔你要不要講一下這個整個失事調查報告沒有出來我們沒辦法給委員確定到底失事的原因為何 |
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有人就談到嘛 電腦的問題 夜間航行的問題反彈跳的系統等等的這些其實都是 那這樣講 我們就回過來講你要求你今天這個提案這個 我們就看嘛 看社會的反應怎麼樣我們就尊重 看大家怎麼討論但是 |
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軍人要給他基本的 特別是飛官好不容易栽培一個飛官請問培養一個飛官培養一個飛官要多少錢委員好 我是空軍司令部的中央副參謀長當初因為現在跟各機型不一樣訓練出來的那個經費都不太一致那大概要接近一千多萬 |
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我所了解的啦大概一兩千萬培養一個飛官一兩千萬他裡面要求很多的國家資源障礙都在身上這個飛官都非常的他他對於台灣的這個台海的安全有很大的影響力有很大的一個作用這樣子這樣現在又失蹤了我們看了很難過了但是所以回過來我還真的要講的是軍人待遇啊請問我們的軍人待遇跟其他國家比怎麼樣 |
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要不然就問我就可以了 軍人待遇包委員 我們跟美軍來相比的話 確實是跟不上美軍一個月 平均一個月是兩千塊美金耶我們一個月多少錢啊 對不對所以 來 我們多少錢 你講一下吧這跟生活所需 就是一般的好吧 你扣一扣也沒差賊嘛我們多少嘛 我們多少嘛他一個月兩千美金 我們多少 一個月多少嘛 |
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呃 跟各 各階級不太一樣下市 下市多少錢 下市大概五萬吧 差不多五萬嘛五萬嘛 對吧 阿人一個月兩千 |
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是不是 這個 我說平均啦 都大小所以給軍人加薪 我們也三讀通過了總統也公告了 為什麼還不依法編列這個就是總預算一直卡在這裡的我都願意說 大概各退一步我會跟主機場講 可不可以我們公開承諾你公開承諾 誰要審總預算 |
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你就把軍人待遇提升的這個補進來他說沒有錢 我說不會沒有錢啦我們大概預算總預算大概三兆過去十幾年平均3.5度一趴一點多趴 一算一趴就有300億絕對夠啊 怎麼不夠錢絕對夠就在於賴清德總統要不要拿掉他那個好鬥的心他只要拿掉了所以今天總預算不神就在於他一年之間 |
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他只要承諾也不用退回總預算從不用只要公開承諾一審總預算我一定把這個最佳預算補上來一句話我們就審了這應該是很簡單的事情了有機會就回覆你們吧 謝謝好 謝謝賴世芳委員 |