iVOD / 166928

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IVOD_ID 166928
IVOD_URL https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/166928
日期 2026-01-07
會議資料.會議代碼 委員會-11-4-15-20
會議資料.會議代碼:str 第11屆第4會期內政委員會第20次全體委員會議
會議資料.屆 11
會議資料.會期 4
會議資料.會次 20
會議資料.種類 委員會
會議資料.委員會代碼[0] 15
會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] 內政委員會
會議資料.標題 第11屆第4會期內政委員會第20次全體委員會議
影片種類 Clip
開始時間 2026-01-07T11:52:58+08:00
結束時間 2026-01-07T11:59:49+08:00
影片長度 00:06:51
支援功能[0] ai-transcript
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委員名稱 鄭天財Sra Kacaw
委員發言時間 11:52:58 - 11:59:49
會議時間 2026-01-07T09:00:00+08:00
會議名稱 立法院第11屆第4會期內政委員會第20次全體委員會議(事由:一、審查行政院函請審議「國家安全法部分條文修正草案」案。二、繼續審查委員陳冠廷等21人擬具「國家安全法第二條及第七條條文修正草案」案。三、繼續審查委員沈伯洋等17人擬具「國家安全法第十三條及第十三條之一條文修正草案」案。四、繼續審查委員陳冠廷等23人擬具「國家安全法第四條及第八條條文修正草案」案。五、繼續審查委員邱志偉等16人擬具「國家安全法第三條條文修正草案」案。六、繼續審查委員沈伯洋等20人擬具「國家安全法第二條及第七條條文修正草案」案。七、繼續審查委員王定宇等16人擬具「國家安全法第二條及第七條條文修正草案」案。八、繼續審查委員沈伯洋等20人擬具「國家安全法第三條、第八條及第十八條條文修正草案」案。九、繼續審查委員陳冠廷等19人擬具「國家安全法增訂第十九條之一條文草案」案。十、繼續審查委員黃捷等16人擬具「國家安全法第二條、第三條及第七條條文修正草案」案。十一、審查委員陳冠廷等16人擬具「國家安全法第十三條條文修正草案」案。十二、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具「國家安全法部分條文修正草案」案。十三、審查委員賴瑞隆等17人擬具「國家安全法部分條文修正草案」案。十四、審查台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「國家安全法第七條、第八條及第八條之一條文修正草案」案。十五、審查委員邱志偉等19人擬具「國家安全法第二條及第七條條文修正草案」案。十六、審查委員莊瑞雄等16人擬具「國家安全法增訂第十三條之一條文草案」案。十七、審查委員王定宇等16人擬具「國家安全法第二條及第七條條文修正草案」案。十八、審查委員吳沛憶等17人擬具「國家安全法第二條及第七條條文修正草案」案。十九、審查委員郭昱晴等18人擬具「國家安全法部分條文修正草案」案。二十、審查委員李坤城等16人擬具「國家安全法第四條及第四條之一條文修正草案」案。二十一、審查委員徐富癸等20人擬具「國家安全法部分條文修正草案」案。二十二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等19人擬具「國家安全法第六條條文修正草案」案。二十三、審查委員李坤城等19人擬具「國家安全法部分條文修正草案」案。【詢答及處理;第一案、第二十一案及第二十二案如經復議則不予審查;第二十三案如未經各黨團簽署不復議同意書則不予審查。】)
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transcript.whisperx[0].text 主席召委我們請內政部還有國防部內政部國防部作戰及計劃參謀處長室作戰儲備處的吳處長還有國家安全局國務院吳安今天審國家安全法的部分條文本席也有提出修正的條文
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transcript.whisperx[1].text 我們看這個山地管制期山地管制期是戒嚴時期的一個產物嚴重影響人民的生活所以本席在要求廢除這個山地管制期國家安全法這個歷史嚴格是從民國76年動員勘亂時期一直到現在現在老早已經不是動員勘亂時期了
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transcript.whisperx[2].text 那國家安全法第五條七十六年一月公佈然後七十六年七月十五號施行特別只提到這個為維護山地治安治安啊不是國防啊治安就由警政署啊你內政部啊你要定在另外一個法例啊而不是在國家安全啊國家安全動員抗案時期的東西對不對化學管制期
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transcript.whisperx[3].text 山地管制區因為這裡面提到人民出入前向管制區應向該管機關申請席可多麻煩來申請席可不合時宜的所以應該修正已經超過30年以上了而且違反這個國家安全法第15條列在這裡就會有刑責就會有刑責
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transcript.whisperx[4].text 原住民就因為這樣的國家安全法3D管理器就受到刑責就受到刑責被判刑回到自己的地方被判刑對不對蘇貞昌前任院長前面開放山林前面開放山林呢
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transcript.whisperx[5].text 告別媽寶國家前面開放山林結果我們的部落卻要管制多不合理啊對不對行政院蘇貞昌前任院長前面開放山林開放遊客結果限制原住民族回到自己的部落原住民的部落的國人回到自己的部落是不需要經過這個管制的
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transcript.whisperx[6].text 你完全抽 會不會有親戚我要到我的親戚 我的戶籍不在那邊如果是當地的部落是不用當然啦 戶籍不在那邊的戶籍不在那邊的就要登記啊很多因為到都會去工作就業
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transcript.whisperx[7].text 對不對 為了孩子的就業 那個念書報言 只要有原住民身份的族人都不受這個管制完全錯誤 那為什麼會被那個所以委員的這個個案可能提供給我們了解一下因為我們對法律的了解是只要具有原住民身份的國人都不受這個管制因為如果你是為了治安 你就列在你的警察相關的
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transcript.whisperx[8].text 法例不要放在這裡 因為這個是動員困難時期這個我們會來考慮 因為已經開放山林開放遊客了這理由不大一樣啦 理由不大一樣難道我們的部落不能有遊客嗎
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transcript.whisperx[9].text 我們現在有兩個問題存在第一個就是說我們每一年颱風我要去了解多少人在山上我如果沒有這個管制區的話我們到時候第一時間我們要疏散誰我們都不知道那第二個就是說有很多山老鼠那山老鼠我們也是要藉由這樣的一個方式來管制那是另外一個法律治安你就放在治安那邊
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transcript.whisperx[10].text 目前放在這邊是因為他有他的剛剛委員提到的歷史的脈絡啦那未來如果說要放到其他的法例裡面我們會去檢討市長你不了解這是原住民部落的新生啊你先聽我講先聽我講山地管制區還有什麼管制 除了人員的管制還有什麼管制土地的管制啊 各方面的管制 縣建的管制啊
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transcript.whisperx[11].text 喔 拜託好不好限制建築的管制這個我們都了解 但是也有很多的部落反映他們要維持這個你真的是不瞭解部落 趙偉聽一下我們是徵詢原住民部落的意見不會嗎我這裡也有一本厚厚徵詢我們部落族人的意見 他們也是同意啊沒有 不同你只是徵詢部分的好這裡面就會涉及到國家安全
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transcript.whisperx[12].text 你是為了三地治安啊 治安啊你就放在你的內政部的相關的法律裡面啊你是為了治安啊寫得很清楚啦然後就會涉及到管制區的現建 進建對不對 第二 最後一項管制區報偉 那個進建建是軍事的需要不是內政部的
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transcript.whisperx[13].text 所以你把他移到那邊就沒有那個問題了我們移走的話他還是在啊因為國防部還是要進憲建那我們就沒有話可說如果涉及到國防的話如果涉及到國防我們當然支持啊我們沒有反對喔國防涉及到國防你要進建我們完全沒有反對但是因為
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transcript.whisperx[14].text 因為你是列為三地管制區就會受到這個國家安全法第六條的第三項這是連帶的什麼連帶了 好不好這個我們會檢討了 報告委員 這個我們檢討這個部分一定要支持我的修法 以上 謝謝好 謝謝委員謝謝 我們感謝鄭天才委員