| IVOD_ID |
166921 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/166921 |
| 日期 |
2026-01-07 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-15-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第20次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
20 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第20次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-01-07T10:44:31+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-01-07T10:53:05+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:34 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/8a4de0f3676b468fc98ea6268820736c781827afd94ae333a2318d3e8cde50e9f51ed4bceb2f374b5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
王美惠 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:44:31 - 10:53:05 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-01-07T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期內政委員會第20次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查行政院函請審議「國家安全法部分條文修正草案」案。二、繼續審查委員陳冠廷等21人擬具「國家安全法第二條及第七條條文修正草案」案。三、繼續審查委員沈伯洋等17人擬具「國家安全法第十三條及第十三條之一條文修正草案」案。四、繼續審查委員陳冠廷等23人擬具「國家安全法第四條及第八條條文修正草案」案。五、繼續審查委員邱志偉等16人擬具「國家安全法第三條條文修正草案」案。六、繼續審查委員沈伯洋等20人擬具「國家安全法第二條及第七條條文修正草案」案。七、繼續審查委員王定宇等16人擬具「國家安全法第二條及第七條條文修正草案」案。八、繼續審查委員沈伯洋等20人擬具「國家安全法第三條、第八條及第十八條條文修正草案」案。九、繼續審查委員陳冠廷等19人擬具「國家安全法增訂第十九條之一條文草案」案。十、繼續審查委員黃捷等16人擬具「國家安全法第二條、第三條及第七條條文修正草案」案。十一、審查委員陳冠廷等16人擬具「國家安全法第十三條條文修正草案」案。十二、審查委員王美惠等17人擬具「國家安全法部分條文修正草案」案。十三、審查委員賴瑞隆等17人擬具「國家安全法部分條文修正草案」案。十四、審查台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「國家安全法第七條、第八條及第八條之一條文修正草案」案。十五、審查委員邱志偉等19人擬具「國家安全法第二條及第七條條文修正草案」案。十六、審查委員莊瑞雄等16人擬具「國家安全法增訂第十三條之一條文草案」案。十七、審查委員王定宇等16人擬具「國家安全法第二條及第七條條文修正草案」案。十八、審查委員吳沛憶等17人擬具「國家安全法第二條及第七條條文修正草案」案。十九、審查委員郭昱晴等18人擬具「國家安全法部分條文修正草案」案。二十、審查委員李坤城等16人擬具「國家安全法第四條及第四條之一條文修正草案」案。二十一、審查委員徐富癸等20人擬具「國家安全法部分條文修正草案」案。二十二、審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等19人擬具「國家安全法第六條條文修正草案」案。二十三、審查委員李坤城等19人擬具「國家安全法部分條文修正草案」案。【詢答及處理；第一案、第二十一案及第二十二案如經復議則不予審查；第二十三案如未經各黨團簽署不復議同意書則不予審查。】） |
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主席 我們現在任職部次長好 請馬次長委員早安早 早早早早次長 從現在到現在大家看到國安法的時候在我們站在台灣 |
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國民黨的 覺得很緊張我認為 今天禮拜這個 因為我覺得長久以來我覺得很多台灣人 念台灣體育金長久以來都違背台灣做事在這個發展中 我們有覺得不足的地方 |
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尤其最近,你應該有看到我們的國票這樣,大家都怕外國在那裡受怕,在那裡戰爭,在那裡做愛心台灣郵輪、國票一直去所以,我們台灣有富國神山,不是只有一個而已我們的老總統國,我們的富國神山有很多 |
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有很多的當中 我們也願意他可以在台灣平平安安去做他的專業 他的東西我們的政府可以保護他這才是最重要的在這個過程當中 他剛才也有說到 |
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之前幾年前在北京的時候發生那樣的事情如果沒有我們的承辦人員的信號我相信今天大家也很高興不知道當時還要發生什麼事情不知道在北京的車頭還要回到這個問題所以在這個過程當中我覺得自己想法的就要想法 |
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我們不用怕 我們是保護全台灣中華民國百姓的血緣沒有說一句 我不聽在以前 他們可以沒中奬到現在沒中奬 還認為他沒有不對現在在這個過程中 還可以我看到現在 |
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是要讓我們台灣中華民國的言論更好更好有一個範圍裡面不然你有時候都想說哎呦 跟這個不知道會出發還是不會出發 |
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在這個過程當中 我覺得百姓有的是無敵的有的參與的 有的是用做這個做這個裡面 有財 參與的沒財但是現在有的百姓 說說對人去背叛啦人家說台灣要怎麼樣 他也跟人家說怎麼樣啦所以在這個過程當中 我們的網路 |
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也是真的 金屬油 但是對台灣的非法也很多所以在這個過程當中 有如何今天我們有很多的草案的時候 你要補充什麼來好 謝謝委員支持啦 我想主要的原因在於說我們現在面對的是一個要併吞台灣的政權 |
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那這樣的一個態勢尤其是在過去這幾年是非常的明顯所以國安法今天的修正其實是面對中國跟解放軍對台灣這種全領域的這種併吞行為我們要做一些回應所以剛剛委員一開始提到經濟事實上包括我們在資訊戰包括我們在這個國防甚至包括我們在社會的輿論上面有很多的假訊息都是因為這樣子而產生的 |
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因為今天我特別來講這個網路這個問題因為網路有時要公開 |
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也做到 欸 那做到有影響 說不太一樣所以這個問題是非常嚴重的有時候說 阿 阿強要跑來 阿強要跑來如果一個人說不覺得什麼 如果10月年尾議說的時候這會怕人 所以在網路這個區塊我們非常重要 不是說言論的自由 |
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是百分之百 但是有時候危害中華民國台灣的信我們也要去勸責所以今天想這個國安法的信我們也能對中華民國更好 讓北省有那麼多的保障這才是應該的 不是這樣 |
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對 我想委員的觀點非常的同意因為其實我們現在修國安法是要保障大多數人的民主自由的制度所以包括說我們現在可以看得到在網路上包括剛剛委員提到的虛假言論或者是未冒名人或者是未冒我們的政治人物的言論我們在國安法裡面這次的修訂都會去衡量它的情節 |
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它的情節重大的時候我們會做處理也就是說在言論自由的部分我們還是會去保持一個橫平性這個部分剛剛也有跟委員報告過就是說像我們目前在兒少性剝削防治條例裡面的八之一條的第六項裡面其實也有類似的規定重大情節我們必須要去做馬上的處理所以這個也是要保障不管是兒少或者是保障我們國民的民主自由的制度這個都是一貫的一個概念 |
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好 來 我們請法務部來 市長在這裏面我們要跟你討論的就是說這第13條的草案裏面有正經替我們中華民國 台灣付出很多的這個公家機關的 |
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做兵也好 上班也好在這個過程 但是他現在已經拿退休金了但是在退休金的當中 讓人利用一定會中華民國的福祉在這個過程 剛才你也有說 一心的心 能夠 |
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50%嘛 原來本市要這麼關心的就是因為它替國家付出保護國家 我們應該要照顧這是沒有錯的 但是有時候它已經離開了 它的配合只有一半 |
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但是他的配合在那一半會破風的時候是比台灣人還要惡劣在那一幕中華民國台灣的不是不夠自由不夠民主這你想今天的草案可以補充這個奇怪的什麼來 你回答一下 |
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根據我們的草案那第13條的第5項就是針對這一個遺囑的部分那遺囑的部分如果也有跟第一項所列的各款的一個違法的適由那一樣我們第一項到第4項的一些剝奪權利的部分呢對於遺囑呢一樣是適用的因為今天為什麼要來談論這個因為不要 |
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請求給台灣的退休金跟保護 請求給台灣的補習這是非常不應該 所以本市立委這個法條草案 一定要趕快抓到來完成不說實在 不知道我們台灣人兩千三百萬人 交的稅金 交的錢給這樣保留台灣 是非常不應該 以上 |
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谢谢谢谢委员 |