| IVOD_ID |
166905 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/166905 |
| 日期 |
2026-01-07 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-4-36,26-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期司法及法制、社會福利及衛生環境委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期司法及法制、社會福利及衛生環境委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-01-07T11:16:14+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-01-07T11:24:01+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:47 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/8a4de0f3676b468fbe6370665c3d62be91c86f75780029905aa3b5816bd951efa515b23fefa1fd695ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
羅智強 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:16:14 - 11:24:01 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-01-07T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期司法及法制、社會福利及衛生環境委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：一、併案審查行政院函請審議「衛生福利部組織法第二條、第五條及第八條條文修正草案」案等10案。
二、併案審查行政院函請審議「衛生福利部兒少及家庭支持署組織法草案」案等7案。
三、併案審查行政院函請審議「衛生福利部長期照顧及社會發展署組織法草案」案等6案。
四、併案審查行政院函請審議「衛生福利部中央健康保險署組織法第二條條文修正草案」案等5案。
五、併案審查行政院函請審議「國家醫療科技評估中心設置條例草案」案等4案。
六、併案審查行政院函請審議「國家中醫研究院設置條例草案」案等10案。
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有請石部長請石崇良部長部長我現在想請教一下我剛剛聽到您跟黃國昌委員在詢答的時候那針對行政院犯人說2017年在衛福部就已經有少子女化對策辦公室結果你卻說在屬的時代在部的時代沒有到底是有還是沒有啊 |
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在我的印象裡面是沒有成立辦公室來 我想請教一下部長 你知道這是什麼嗎這是衛福部在第九屆第四會期的書面報告衛福部 |
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少子女化對策辦公室運作現狀政策目標及達成進度裡面有一段文字 它講本部內部成立少子化對策辦公室召集本部醫事師、心口師、社工師、保護師、重規師、健康署、社家署、疾管署、健保署等相關單位召開六次會議部長 |
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我是看到什麼奇怪靈異事件嗎你說沒有衛福部的專案報告說有而且還開了六次會到底是有還是沒有他看起來我們沒有一個所謂的專案辦公室這是一個像那個專案小組這樣我先跟你講你連標題都是 |
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对策办公室少子女化对策办公室没有关系 部长我要跟你说我就要从这件事来看 |
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我們民進黨政府面對少子女化辦公室的螺絲是掉到什麼程度掉到有少子女化對策辦公室部長你都不知道然後呢這個單位我想請問六次開會之後有沒有第七次啊你顯然你不知道嘛因為連有這個辦公室我看都不知道嘛2017年沒有過去多久民進黨執政耶民進黨執政耶 |
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白紙黑字啊 106年10月16號就是你們的專案報告但是沒關係 我要跟部長強調一個重點這是證明了一件事情嘛民進黨這個拯救少子女化根本是打假球嘛打假球假到說今天主管部會不知道自己有少子女化對策辦公室你們的發言人還說有 |
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結果你在這邊跟我講沒有跟委員說明少子女化的對策都是跨部會的所以他的這個行動層級是在院的層級都是重點就是衛福部就有嘛你的標題都有嘛這個我不跟部長你爭論啦重點是什麼不過說實在話有跟沒有我覺得也沒差啦為什麼因為民進黨執政十年生不如死啊 |
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你有沒有這個少子女化的對策辦公室有影響到我們今天台灣在民進黨執政之下真到全世界第一名嗎第一名不是光榮的第一名出生率最低第一名啊部長你覺得這很容易嗎有沒有很容易 |
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第一名很容易嗎生育率的下降確實這個是很嚴峻那它的因素也很多因素當然很多啊可是你要爭到全世界第一名我真的覺得也是萬分佩服啊我沒有怪部長你啊因為你也算是上任沒多久嘛我要講的是整個民進黨執政也十年啦來來來 我跟您講少子女化當然是個趨勢嘛 |
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全球接來嘛但是拿到第一名坦白講不容易啦要表揚啦全世界都在有面臨尤其是比較發展的國家有面臨少子女化的問題這個是事實 |
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但是你可以少到拿到全球第一名那就是民進黨執政了不起的地方啊來你來看這個什麼叫做少子女化什麼叫儲身率總儲身率的下降近20年你從20年起算的1.12請問你知道總儲身率在20年的最高峰是在哪一年嗎 |
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過去這20年最高峰我不清楚要再查一下最高峰2012年啊國民黨執政啊1.27啊請問去年是多少總出生率去年因為還沒有結算前年的話是到0.870.87嘛對你覺得今年結算一下去年結算一下你覺得更高更低啊不會 |
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所以我要跟你講你看到嘛全世界這幾十年來趨勢尤其比較發展比較好的國家是往下降沒錯嘛出生率在下跌可是中間曾經在國民黨執政有一度反轉從這邊反轉到高點然後一直到民進黨執政直接雪崩式崩盤然後我要再想請教你你知道我們台灣什麼時候正式進入生不如死的時代 |
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就是出生人數低於死亡人數哪一年開始正式進入到生不如死時代2020年啦2020年出生16萬死亡17萬生不如死我要特別說今天為什麼大家關心搶救少子女化的問題你從一開始 |
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辦公室的成立結果我就發現就變成羅生門這就是讓大家覺得是非常非常疑惑的事情如果辦公室成立行政院跟衛福部你都搞不清楚的時候那只能證明這辦公室真的是可有可無我要請我們衛福部給我一個報告好不好你給我報告一下說請問你這份報告裡面開了六次會議以後第七次會議是什麼時候開的 |
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還是就今天放個煙火開了六次會之後報告做完以後就沒消沒息啊沒消沒息靜悄悄到部長你不知道有這個辦公室存在國民黨跟民眾黨我們現在有提出台灣未來帳戶的計畫我要特別講這是語重心長如果在放任民進黨搞這種生不如死的政策下去就像馬斯克說的他講南韓搞下去幾代以後人就沒有了 |
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國家沒有未來啦你出聲音再降下去國家哪裡有未來拜託部長喔 |
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我們再努力一點好不好我們會做最大的努力過去也做了很多的努力所以剛剛前面在不論是在這個鼓勵生育的補助也好或者是在養育生育的補助津貼托育等等都益助了很多非常謝謝部長我還是最後告訴你但是這個結果沒有反映出來我們確實需要持續的在修正你們真的我們養殖政十年很努力我努力看到拿到全世界第一名 |
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真的不容易啦200多個國家拿到第一名真是龍賢啦出生率最低第一名真的不容易啦 謝謝 |