| IVOD_ID |
166890 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/166890 |
| 日期 |
2026-01-07 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-19-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第19次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
19 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第19次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-01-07T10:42:44+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-01-07T10:52:23+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:39 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/8a4de0f3676b468f05f29535198a95424473b985e049f91a3ec197a1c72cb6c4547d61b99647e9e65ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
邱志偉 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:42:44 - 10:52:23 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-01-07T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第19次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查本院委員陳亭妃等16人擬具「農業科技園區設置管理條例增訂第十五條之一條文草案」案。
二、審查本院委員李柏毅等16人擬具「植物品種及種苗法第五十三條之一條文修正草案」案。
三、審查：
(一) 本院委員陳亭妃等16人擬具「農產品市場交易法第六條及第三十五條條文修正草案」案。
(二) 本院委員邱議瑩等20人擬具「農產品市場交易法第十五條條文修正草案」案。
(三) 本院委員陳瑩等16人擬具「農產品市場交易法第十條條文修正草案」案。
以上全案於1月7日（星期三）、1月8日（星期四）詢答及處理。
【1月7日及8日二天一次會】） |
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邱志偉委員資訊好 謝謝主委 是不是請農業部陳部長 漁業署王署長我們請農業部陳部長 還有我們漁業署署長 謝謝這個這個 |
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史無前例這個立法院今年度的中央政府總預算都還沒覆違這個當然會影響很大那不審新興計畫就沒有辦法動之那很多的這個政策就沒有辦法推動我想請教部長就是說針對總預算不審 |
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會影響到農業部相關的預算它規模到什麼程度我跟委員報告我們內部經過計算以後大概總共的預算大概有將近91億是不能動之的分兩個區塊一個區塊是新興的計畫是完全不能動的大概16點多億那另外一個是延續性計畫但是因為我們增加了很多項目 |
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那增加了不能動之你只能沿用增加的部分大概有70億所以兩個加起來74億啦加起來大概有90億所以我在這邊新計劃不是不能動之要經過立法院同意對如果假設真的完全都不審 |
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那你們針對新興計畫要提到立法院請立法院同意有沒有這種想法我想我們最大的根本還是希望總預算能夠進到副委副委來討論嘛那如果對農業部分的經費有任何疑議我們都願意跟委員做溝通跟協商 |
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那總預算過才會包括新興的部分跟延續的部分一併來處理主要是要照顧農漁民發展農漁業農漁民農漁業是相對在產業結構裡面相對比較弱勢需要政府更多的協助特別請王署長我想請教如果這個總預算不省影響漁業署預算我們對第二類漁港的建設補助 |
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以及對養殖儀業的這個補助的影響大概規模有多大跟委員報告現在我們新興的部分特別是養殖的生產端管理像一些供排水系統或是養殖區生產道路的一些建設都會受到影響 |
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那這一個部分大概有一兩億的預算那我的漁港的部分因為漁港部分現在在配合財化法的修正的部分因為二類漁港的部分屬於這個地方資本府的主管權責那一個部分在我們原來預算編列的時候就已經配合財化法的修正已經調成地方的這種一般性的補助款 是 |
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那如果非二類漁港,比方說在我的選區你也知道你常常去永安、彌陀、紫關、興達港這些漁港要怎麼讓它現代化 |
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設施的這個提升漁港建設的這個投入會不會影響委員雖然說我們現在配合財化法的修正一些協助地方政府建設二類漁港的經費已經切到地方政府去了但是如果說地方政府確實因為預算的一個短缺需要延提比較大型的這種中長城計劃 |
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那只要地方政府原體上來我們署裡面會協助我有做會審對針對我的選區包括紫關彌陀永安跟興大港這些都是老舊的漁港需要現代化漁民作業安全或者是漁產交易環境的改善 |
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這個如果提這個專案計劃呢是就是提專案計劃我們絕對會來支持協助像行政院來爭取比較有高雄市政府提出一個專案計劃專案計劃但你要抱怨嘛 |
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我跟委員如果同意的話我跟委員報告一下就是在整個經費的運用上面來講雖然說二類漁港是地方政府但是地方政府如果裁員可能分配上面可能不夠的時候他可以提專案您說的專案計畫專案計畫就是中唐人公共建設那中唐人公共建設經過國會審定行政院核可以後這個有沒有在總預算的範圍裡面這個目前 |
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已經有切到地方的話 我的意思是說如果高雄市政府提出這個鄰港建設專案計畫不要說他提出20億 這20億有沒有包括在農業部的年度預算也包括在裡面後續如果行政院中長城計畫審議通過了 還是編在我農業部啊 |
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就是由中央補助地方的經費額度裡面去那也沒那麼快 最快也要到 如果是今年入體啦那一定是列入民工資產嘛我們大概每一年的中南農公共建設依規定大概是在2月底 然後開始審最慢是5月底之前要提送所以這個在潮發法的限制之下這也是一個解決的方案對 |
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我會覺得全盤把整個高雄市的漁港建設就透過專案計畫來這個會比較一勞永逸我跟委員報告雖然說我們有一些是切到地方去但是它的建設如果是對整個的產業的影響的話那中央政府會有相關的另外的一個協助大概會這樣的方式 |
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第二問題請教一下部長就是這個台美關稅的談判還沒有最後的一個最後的結論出來但是應該談得差不多了我是比較關心這個農業的部分農業的部分之前大家討論關注大概就是加強對美國的採購而且不是由政府編的運算去採購是由民間這個都由民間的部分 |
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有沒有牽涉到比較敏感的部分比方說市場的開放我想所謂的市場開放基本上就是所說的關稅的部分那關稅是一定會在談判裡面會去觸及的 |
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但是我們會堅持的就是所有的品項裡面它對台灣的農民是衝擊是最小的然後這種市場開放是對於我們成本是有幫助的那另外一類是什麼我們本來就有開放了 |
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然後如果說讓美國的關稅比較低的時候他只是在競爭國之間有沒有輸入的競爭國之間去做互相的取代如果從國家利益角度來看美國一定從這個關稅的談判中是讓美國的國家利益最大化嘛對這個有時候國家利益之間是零和的 |
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他的國家利益最大化就是我們國家利益可能會受到影響那我們就是讓我們的農業的影響是降到最低我們是用這種角度去所以你有把握你有信心如果他的要求不要說對市場開放這個部分你有這個信心可以因應 |
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確保這個農民的生計或者是農業產業不會受到太大的衝擊我跟委員報告我們大概分三類一類就是開放以後是對完全對我們沒有影響反而是有幫助的像黃曉玉的部分嘛那第二類的部分就是我們那個我了解對 比較說影響是大一些的確可能會有一些有必須某個程度的影響那美國程度的影響的話我們就會用產業支持的方案去協助他 |
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462.363 |
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465.036 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].text |
這些方案出來了嗎我們都已經準備好了第三類 |
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466.314 |
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491.732 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].text |
你說還有第三種都已經準備好了你說第一類就是黃小玉對第二類就是說我開放之後會對產業衝擊你會有產業支持方案對還有其他的嗎大概就大概我們分三類另外一類是競爭對手國輸入國彼此之間的競爭去取代他對台灣的整個市場的交易也不會影響那第三類才會有某個程度的影響那某個程度的影響我們就產業支持方案去協助 |
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492.452 |
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513.271 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
所以你們有相關的因應方案可以克服這些關稅的衝擊對 農糧的漁業的畜牧的我們每一個品項都做了這樣的一個評估最終方案如果攤出來對台灣的農業不是造成太大影響我們認為其實台灣的農業沒有想像那麼脆弱我們有沒有韌性我們絕對有那個韌性 |
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515.191 |
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530.159 |
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沒有那麼脆弱啦所以如果這個出來大家跟大家的期待有很大的落差的時候要怎麼樣去跟這個農運民做說服或者去跟農運民去說明或者討論 |
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531.958 |
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554.237 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
對 所以我們現在其實對於我很擔心啦因為這個最後的文本還沒出來如果跟我們的期待有落差的時候你們應該趕快跟受到影響的榮譽民去做溝通 做說明以及相關的支持方案要很明確跟大家知道我想我們如果公開了以後我想我們第一時間就會提出相關的一個完整的方案我們都已經準備好那 |
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554.958 |
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578.151 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
等到一旦公布了以後我想我們第一時間就會跟各地的相關的利害關係的農民去做一個說明這個我們一定會做到所以你們有信心把農業育民顧好把農業產業顧好我個人是有信心因為台灣的農業沒有那麼脆弱而且台灣農業應該有它的競爭力漁業也是也是好 謝謝謝謝邱志偉委員謝謝 |