| IVOD_ID |
166887 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/166887 |
| 日期 |
2026-01-07 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-20-17 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期財政委員會第17次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
17 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期財政委員會第17次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-01-07T10:32:34+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-01-07T10:43:40+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:06 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/8a4de0f3676b468fd057a2f97842477c5d44f5a94e3adf353ec197a1c72cb6c461f7c7b81f9a4fed5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳玉珍 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:32:34 - 10:43:40 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-01-07T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期財政委員會第17次全體委員會議（事由：邀請金融監督管理委員會主任委員彭金隆、財政部部長莊翠雲、國家發展委員會副主任委員就「如何引導國內資金擴大參與公共建設及策略性產業」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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這個民眾 民進黨和幹事黨中嘉賓喔來來 聽一下 剛好聽一下 來對 你可以聽一下 跟你有關係這個我們請國發會請高副主委 |
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委員好本期推動離島建設條例我們民進黨團幹事長鍾嘉斌委員昨天開記者會5號開記者會說修法就是要把陳玉珍委員的選區金門變成福建省的經濟特區金門是屬於哪一個省 |
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當然是 金門市屬哪一省 應該是中華民國政府的福建省 那有什麼不對呢金門就是福建省金門縣 宗家兵委員可能還不瞭解聽到 大家知道自己不對 走掉了金門是福建省沒錯吧金門是台灣省的嗎 當然是中華民國下面的福建省郭齊在那裡 還懷疑嗎我們再請教 民進黨的這個 |
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立委沈博洋說國民黨欲藉由離島建設條例讓地方離島可以排除中央法規的適用簡單來說就是要地方包圍中央然後首等中共統戰的官員受訪表示 |
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這個涉及兩岸相關法案應先經討論評估強行通過絕對是為謀其利先受其害現在就連金門縣連江縣政府都不知道在修什麼行政部門反對危害國安的草率修法這個總體來說就是說他們不知道 民進黨不知道金門是福建省 |
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金門本來就是福建省我的身份證也在這裡也是中華民國福建省毫無疑問第二個他們認為這個修法民進黨覺得修法修離島監制條例就是要地方包圍中央第三個他們覺得金門縣政府就不要講連江小就講我們金門縣都不知道在修什麼我們提出的這個離島監制條例好第二個請問您這個上一頁我們是福建省金門縣這個毫無疑問吧上一頁 |
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有沒有問題啊高副主委這個要想很久嗎當然中華民國這個站在中華民國土地下還懷疑這個問題第二個如果我們基本有幸成為經濟特區也是中華民國下面的福建省的嘛沒錯吧 |
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對 我們因為我們台灣事實上沒有那個經濟特區的相關的法律的規範 藉由現行法令來說是 那我們想要立在立到監制條例裡面修法那這個變成中華民國下面福建省經濟特區有什麼有什麼問題呢讓金門變成更好有什麼問題好 請問我們金門縣有沒有跟你跟我們國發會討論過要做法規的鬆綁我想 |
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有沒有考過離島條例應該歷年來就有多次的修正對嘛難道是今天才發生的嗎之前張景生張景生你認識吧當然我們行政院政務委員在106年12月底就已經說過因應金馬地區的發展需求要給我們金門這個地方更大金門馬祖更大的彈性 |
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所以有指示行政院金馬聯合服務中心用行政委託的方式把金門馬祖蓬湖這些連江這些地方要推動修正離島建設條例行政院都說要推動更大彈性的怎麼會變成是地方包圍中央這個是106年這已經是8年前了現在已經8年前再下一個您看 |
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張景生也支持我們金門縣會所提出的八項訴求也事實上就是在我修離島經濟條例裡面提的東西一百一十二年八月金門縣議會議員拜會行政院政務委員兼行政院金馬伶仁服務中心主任張景生他就是以前我們福建省的省主席 |
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那針對離島醫療費用建構金門成為兩岸經貿合作先行示範區協助修改離島天然條例等議題討論張俊生允諾張政委那時候是政委這是112年喔這個是大概4年前3、4年前他說要協調專案研議而且要設法解決如果照沈伯陽的說法沈伯陽說這個 |
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這個我們要排除中央法規適用地方包圍中央那照這個民進黨現在說法我們要把金門成為兩岸經貿合作先行示範機我們就是中共同路人那現在這個張景深是不是也是危害國安的中共同路人報告委員其實我們離島建設條例會隨著主客觀情勢的改變其實我們 |
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其實歷年都有修正都有修正嗎都為了離島都有在修正嗎所以我們今天提出修正又不是突然目前其實因為兩岸的關係特殊而且情況複雜對 |
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所以其實我們覺得離島建設條例還是要按照在台灣地區跟大陸人民關係條例下構下面去妥為處理會比較好沒問題啊 但難道離島建設條例難道只是只是面對大陸的條例那兩岸人民關係條例是大陸面對大陸離島建設條例主要是離島要怎麼發展的議題嘛並不是只有跟大陸有關係嘛 |
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那而且今年你們知道你沒有抓到這個訊息嗎今年喔這個你們看金門縣政府在113年6月就已經在金門縣議會提出這個修法的專案報告這個建議修法設立離島自由貿易示範區這個我提出來這個並不是我本人個人的意見是金門縣議會金門縣政府共同的意見啦什麼叫做有委員說什麼不知道金門縣政府說金門縣政府不知道修什麼 |
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還有今年上個月你看一下應該是11月了去年去年底11月金門縣議會全體議員一致決議通過金馬鵬三里島推動修里島經濟條例修法建議函請立法院議程上個月11月11月20 21議長還有我們金門縣副縣長都來拜會韓院長還有國民黨民眾黨民進黨三大黨團說明修法的必要性和重要性請中央正式離島人民的 |
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期待那你們國發會是我們離島建設條例的這個修法的主管單位對金門縣議會和金門縣政府所提出來的離島建設條例修法條文有沒有掌握啊當然我覺得那個委員有沒有掌握我們有掌握有掌握嗎你知道裡面有多少議員提連署嗎你知道有幾位嗎上次來的有你知道有多少議員連署書都給你們了在議會正式提案議會通過了 |
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還包括金門縣政府啊都一起到立法院來拜會三個黨團來拜會這個韓院長表示我們金門離島非常想要迫切修改這個離島建制條例的這個因應期盼啊 |
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你們有掌握嗎 有多少位議員我們有十六位議員十八位啦 算錯啦 十八位議員啦我們基本上有十九位議員啦有一位民進黨 民進黨也連署啦民進黨的主委也在這個《立場經濟條例》連署表示支持啦在基本上這個是不分黨派的議題啦所以國發會身為這個《立場經濟條例》的主管機關啦 |
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請關心離島的發展你們不是被陸委會管但陸委會我們也會跟他溝通啦什麼受兩岸人民關係條例的什麼限制什麼那是另外一件事情我們這些條例的修正不是只有關乎跟踏入的關係啦並不是裡面包含了什麼跟您說一下您如果不了解我讓你理解一下你回去也好好的再看一下那個內容第一要落實土地正義這個公有地的這個購回啦金門地區地上監護祖先服務這些公有土地的購回 |
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這是因為軍管時代的事情嘛第二個提供一個治理的彈性根據特殊的地理條件鬆綁不符合離島現況的中央法規第三個要請中央來承擔責任中央要對離島的重大工程要還有維護管理由中央來專款來做你看你們那個離島經濟基金都沒有錢了嘛對不對我們金門縣造一條金門大橋 |
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金門 大金門到小金門原來我們自己出10億 說30億的時候我們出30億做到完的時候 100億我們出了50億金門縣自己出了一半這個是中央政府應該出的錢然後現在管理也要我們管理 維護也要我們自己維護什麼都是我們自己做 然後你們好 什麼都我們自己做 我們也可以接受不是說不行 我們財政上可以我們都願意來 努力的來自己做問題是在法令上給我們限制太多 |
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金門地區需要發展金門地區的老百姓想法跟這邊有一些民進黨想法就是不一樣我們的地理位置特殊你們要把金門綁實實我們金門到底要怎麼發展 |
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我想發展離島是政府一貫的政策有關於資金的支持跟法規有支持嗎離島基建條例都已經空到沒有了有支持嗎我們還是每年都有提撥相關的現在都是用各個部會說用什麼就用離島基建條例離島基建的錢因為離島基建本來就是一個輔導還有法令的支持是不是更重要法令的支持嘛如果你們不能給我們錢請你給我們政策 |
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或者請你們幫我們鬆綁我們不是天天來這邊說要錢我們要發展法規的鬆綁所以我們這些離島經濟條例的修正除了爭取地方的權益外很多是希望在法規上可以鬆綁讓金門有一個發展我也不是天天來跟你們說你們要給我們多少錢給我們多少錢這個離島經濟條例的修訂 |
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這個是金門縣議會 金門縣政府那天還來了過半的局處長都來 副縣長帶隊金門縣會來了過半的議員連民進黨的主委都簽在裡頭是我們金門縣議員 |
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在金門這個議題是不分黨派的我想那個金門縣政府所以你不要只聽到民進黨民進黨執政黨那一個聲音啦其實我們已經回覆給經委會了有關於各個相關部會他們相關的議題請你回去喔來請你回去在一個月內給我金門縣委所提出來的這個離島建設條約這個修法草案內容的建議如果沒有的話也到本席辦公室來要如果你們自己都沒辦法掌握的話 |
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報告我們已經把先回給那個經委會了因為經委會要求我們那個企業的好那你馬上就把這個東西回給我好我們等一下馬上給委員然後國發會也麻煩既然是身為立法監測條例的主管機關我們金門的發展與你們這麼的相關也派員我們找個時間派人到金門來聽聽百姓的意見好嗎不要說這好像是陳玉珍一個人的意見那當然不是謝謝謝謝委員好謝謝 |