| IVOD_ID |
166884 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/166884 |
| 日期 |
2026-01-07 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-4-36,26-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期司法及法制、社會福利及衛生環境委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期司法及法制、社會福利及衛生環境委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-01-07T10:27:55+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-01-07T10:34:31+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:36 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/8a4de0f3676b468f4bd59146952ac58a91c86f75780029903ec197a1c72cb6c43696169a3617e29d5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
王義川 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:27:55 - 10:34:31 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-01-07T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期司法及法制、社會福利及衛生環境委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：一、併案審查行政院函請審議「衛生福利部組織法第二條、第五條及第八條條文修正草案」案等10案。
二、併案審查行政院函請審議「衛生福利部兒少及家庭支持署組織法草案」案等7案。
三、併案審查行政院函請審議「衛生福利部長期照顧及社會發展署組織法草案」案等6案。
四、併案審查行政院函請審議「衛生福利部中央健康保險署組織法第二條條文修正草案」案等5案。
五、併案審查行政院函請審議「國家醫療科技評估中心設置條例草案」案等4案。
六、併案審查行政院函請審議「國家中醫研究院設置條例草案」案等10案。
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我們請部長 請石部長部長好 這個你們這一次做了這些調整我想應該也是經過蠻長時間的討論那行政院也同意嘛那做組織調整最怕這個多了人多了組織啊然後呢 |
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有些業務還留在原來的單位那你們成立了這個兒家屬以後有哪一些原來在衛福部部本部裡頭的這些業務被移出來了有盤點過嗎 |
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有 我們有進行盤點在這個本來的現在的社家署裡面的兒童福利組有一個兒童福利會移到這個新成立的兒少署那另外我們在保護服務師裡面有所謂的兒少保護的業務這個是在部本來的師的業務會移到這個署 |
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那麼另外呢在這個兒童未來發展帳戶對於這個脫貧這個兒少的脫貧的這個計畫那麼本來是在社公司的也會移到這個數所以把那另外在健康的部分的早期療癒本來的業務分散在不同的單位也會把它整合好 那原來在那些單位的主管叫什麼師下面叫科長對對對 就是師的下面就是科的業務那以後這些師就沒有這些科囉 |
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他是一部分的業務出來他還有其他成人的業務所以你這個師裡頭還是有這些科對對對對然後就跑到另外一邊再去創了其他的族因為他這個科本來的業務不是只有做兒童他還有其他大人的部分像有的是做這個性侵有的是做家暴那不同的性侵有可能是兒少業務以後就會急增來 我要講了 |
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他們這一定要自己分工分到前奏啦要不然你喔 兩邊都有長官啦不高不低的就是說 欸 這不是已經成立兒少署了嗎不是已經移到哪一組了嗎然後怎麼又回來找我這個師的這個科長呢我們已經移出去啊那我就請問你這個科長 那你這個科長現在在幹嘛 |
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就是說你這怕不怕會瘦一天出事的時候 要追究的時候就說不好 我這成立俄少族那邊的事不要找我客廳喔不然請問你現在這個客廳看你做什麼 |
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就這個事情你身為部長就把這個事情要釐清你也知道過去發生很多事情就是說告訴大家大婚的時候連理發委員會現在也不清楚就是說這是那個單位那個單位那個單位第二個成立這個署以後有沒有從教育部移任何的業務過來 |
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目前的規劃沒有好 原來沒有 就現在都沒有移新的過來嘛沒有沒有好 那所以原來教育部跟衛福部啊關於兒少的部分中間切的那一條線以後不會有問題啊 |
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比如說我們現在對這個托嬰托育三歲以下就是在衛福部然後三歲以上的在教育部目前是這樣的切法所以未來這個署成例也是用這樣的做法來進行所以 |
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民眾要分得清楚就對了 兒童有分三歲以下 也有分三歲以上三歲以上的兒童的保護是相關 保護還是在 保護相關你給他教育部是怎樣 找就是說有一個四歲的小朋友 他一年後去幼兒園 叫他安娜 這相關 |
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相關的直接的保護的業務在我們但是機構的管理的部分我們會跟教育部一起來你說這樣就很含糊了好不好 我說七歲啦 小學生啦小一 小二吃好 去用霸凌 |
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回去跟家人 因為只好去跟爸人回去幾星期他們老伯老婦看了幾星期 怎麼都這樣?有的老伯老婦就去問阿豪有的老伯老婦問孩子說 你如果打架這樣是要給他們收罰繼續再打 |
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那又要撐兩條事情嘛 對不對一直處理 去弄壞的家中的部分現在聽起來幾年關了現在如果是學校 去給同學大家玩遊戲 怎麼去塞 去丟箱這還要整個教育部關了 |
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像這樣的案例很清楚對個案的保護 家庭的支持這個是我們的業務但是他在學校還有輔導的部分包含被霸凌的跟霸凌人家的那個都要在學校裡面做輔導那個就是教育部的因為這個時候要有界面 |
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這個介面那你們既然成立了這一個署不再私下面的科了既然成立署人員也比較多啦那預算應該比較獨立比較獨立那比較專職者的計畫也比較容易推動所以這一部分我是建議你們一定要主動出來處理不然你告訴教育部的也是沒有互相業務刷來刷去也是拆下去 |
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切下去之後 臨江真的還有事情的時候我社會很不喜歡看說衛福部 衛福部說不 這是兒童事件 跟我們無關的會說不 這條是教育部的事情教育部說不 這條是台北市教育局的事情這這樣 社會如果看到這是 |
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所以成立這個新的單位不算過去以後有一些業務移過去之後希望這個能夠更加的明確啦好我們是支持你們這樣的一個調整就是預算你能夠自己獨立也有獨立的計畫啦然後組織編制也擴大但是不要再讓社會啊看了這個事情 大家再殺下去 |
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好 謝謝謝謝委員長朝四全合一然後跨部門合作來努力謝謝 |