| IVOD_ID |
166848 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/166848 |
| 日期 |
2026-01-07 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-4-36,26-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期司法及法制、社會福利及衛生環境委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期司法及法制、社會福利及衛生環境委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-01-07T09:26:17+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-01-07T09:35:54+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:37 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/8a4de0f3676b468f435e5125b448e28191c86f757800299012e0cc7d569d1688fbd852016b6b286a5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
黃國昌 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:26:17 - 09:35:54 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-01-07T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期司法及法制、社會福利及衛生環境委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：一、併案審查行政院函請審議「衛生福利部組織法第二條、第五條及第八條條文修正草案」案等10案。
二、併案審查行政院函請審議「衛生福利部兒少及家庭支持署組織法草案」案等7案。
三、併案審查行政院函請審議「衛生福利部長期照顧及社會發展署組織法草案」案等6案。
四、併案審查行政院函請審議「衛生福利部中央健康保險署組織法第二條條文修正草案」案等5案。
五、併案審查行政院函請審議「國家醫療科技評估中心設置條例草案」案等4案。
六、併案審查行政院函請審議「國家中醫研究院設置條例草案」案等10案。
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有啊 非本聯席會委員就是三分鐘而已謝謝主席 麻煩有請石部長有請石崇良部長 |
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黃委員早部長時間的關係我們就迅速的進行為了提升兒少的權益要成立兒家屬政治方向上面本席竟表贊同但我現在關心的事情是我們未來到底還會有多少兒少我之前說少子女化辦公室是騙局一場結果行政院派一個發言人出來說有啊我們有成立有成立非常好 |
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黨團發函去你們衛福部要你們把少子女化辦公室成立了半年所有的資料都交出來 到現在不交現在衛福部是怎麼樣官威很大嗎要你們交資料不交 可以這樣嗎今天下班以前送來有沒有問題 |
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跟委員報告 下班以前送來有沒有問題我們確實沒有成立這個少子女化對策 奇怪啦為什麼行政院說有啊你說沒有現在誰講的是對的在院承集的話他有這個少子女化對策來來來來來來來你們行政院發言人說呢說衛福部有成立少子化辦公室這不是我說的啊你現在說沒有奇怪了 |
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怎麼一個政府單位說詞上面下面不一樣來你再說一次衛福部有沒有成立少子化辦公室 有還是沒有在我們數的時代 部的時代是沒有2017年4月12號有沒有成立我在我的印象裡面沒有成立沒有成立 好 講得非常的好啊今天衛福部的部長公開打臉啦 行政院說謊 說謊正式回函給我 |
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下班以前回函給我 有沒有問題這個沒有問題 你就回函給我說從來沒有成立過所以黨團要的資料我們無從提供因為從來沒有成因為根本沒有提供從來沒有成立過這樣就好了嘛下班以前書面回覆可以嗎本部確實沒有成立沒關係下班以前書面回覆可不可以可以可以好來再來第二個問題竟然啊 |
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我們頒發機優的督導濫用權限去性侵未成年少女這個案子發生在高雄市遮掩了這麼久 |
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遮掩了這麼久現在被挖出來了以後竟然什麼鬼藉口全部都找出來了我看了令人髮指啊結果他還是GU的督導到底是GU在哪裡啊當初這個獎是怎麼評的是怎麼頒的我非常的困惑我非常的困惑啊 |
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這個G.O.督導的制度當初是誰評的竟然把G.O.督導當給一個濫用權限 性侵未成年少女的我無從理解我關心的事情是 |
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這個GU的督導什麼時候要撤銷我昨天發文去問我一直等到晚上9點你們含附我內容你們說會溯及的撤銷來 撤銷GU督導這件事情什麼時候做的1月6號我們正式發文是 撤銷是什麼時候做的就是撤銷1月6號1月6號什麼時候撤銷的 |
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晚上九點發文給我的時候撤銷的嗎有經過任何會議程序嗎我們公文是昨天發啦對 公文是昨天發不過那個什麼時候撤銷的就昨天昨天撤銷的經過什麼會議程序沒有會議程序我們就跟對我們就根據在這個沒有關係啦沒有會議程序所以你決定把它撤銷嗎那個跟委員報告我們的這個 |
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講的這個實施辦法裡面其實有一個第九點沒有關係啦 所以是誰決定撤銷的我問題只有這樣嘛就是由部來決定撤銷所以是你決定撤銷的嘛這樣子做為就有擔當了嘛就是我部長決定 我昨天就下令撤銷這樣就好了嘛 這麼簡單的問題但我現在很困惑啊衛福部做得到 怎麼經濟部做不到 |
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經濟部搬給一個優良公務員一個涉入台南光電弊案導致綠色權貴不法利益高達90億我一直問經濟部那個優良公務員什麼時候可以撤銷經濟部藉口多了這個我們要等到法院判決確定才可以決定要不要撤銷 |
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我今天在這邊公開講啊經濟部部長看看石崇良部長的表現看看石崇良部長的表現這才叫有破例嘛該撤銷就撤銷了 還等到法院判決確定丟人現眼 官官相護啊但下一個問題啊來了狼社工查詢平台還要多久你說要研議我給你時間研議還需要多久 |
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我們一個月內把他一個月內好一個月內大家都聽到了下一個問題霸凌案賴總統卓院長為霸凌案道歉我之前在追衛福部的高官在霸凌結果呢結果高高舉起輕輕放下高高舉起輕輕放下叫人家坐深蹲 |
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用言語霸凌人家結果前部長跟我說他是高規格調查然後你們的政務次長呂健德吧非常傲慢啊護航到底啊護航到底啊現在連被台灣社會啊譏諷為專門打蒼蠅不敢打老虎的監察院 |
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要注意喔 這個監察院是被譏諷為專門打蒼蠅不敢打老虎的喔連監察院都說啊 這個霸凌啊很嚴重啊 彈劾成立彈劾成立直接打臉 所謂衛福部的高規格調查都有覺得很奇怪啊從這個彈劾成立以後衛福部上上下下對於這件事情視而不見喔可以這樣嗎 來看一下住建方 |
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我質詢過他兩次了啦我質詢過他兩次了你們衛福部一直護航現在被彈劾了你們還是認為這是鼓勵運動不構成霸凌嗎現在衛福部要站出來跟監察院對幹嗎這件事情要怎麼處理 來請部長 |
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跟委員說明 這個案子也經過我們部的相關霸凌處理程序完成也配合監察院的調查提供了相關的資料我們會對監察院所提出來的相關對我們這個程序當中應該要在盡盡的地方我們去進行檢討 |
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那不過目前這個進度上呢他已經進入在司法的程序過程當中所以繼續護航下去就對了嘛我們會配合整個司法的程序來進行什麼叫配合整個司法的程序那監察院都彈劾勒 |
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他現在是移送懲戒法院是當然嘛 那個是懲戒法院嘛那個是依照公務員服務法公務員懲戒法相關的規範嘛現在你作為部長我只要一個清楚的答案是不是打算繼續護航下去讓他當司長 |
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智或不是就好了 台灣社會會公平智或不是就好了我們會秉持公平公正的方式來處理這個案子所以 你會不會讓他繼續當市長這個叫公平公正 這個叫高規格調查這個叫官官相護啦 這個叫官官相護啊我再說一次 這個叫官官相護啊連監察院都彈劾勒 |
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今天還站在這邊繼續包庇喔基層的公務員 部長很有氣魄馬上撤銷 司長 這我們自己人怎麼可以拔掉他司長監察院認定霸凌我繼續讓他當司長這就是衛福部的態度喔跟委員說明 我們絕對勿往勿縱是 現在監察院 連監察院都打臉你們高規格調查報告了你還站在這邊講勿往勿縱你不覺得丟臉嗎 |
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你不覺得丟臉嗎我們依據證據做所有的處分對得起那些被霸凌的精神員工嗎好 謝謝謝謝黃國昌委員的詢問 |