| IVOD_ID |
166846 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/166846 |
| 日期 |
2026-01-07 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-19-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第19次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
19 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第19次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-01-07T09:24:24+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-01-07T09:33:32+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:08 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/8a4de0f3676b468f49788dfbae3eb89e4473b985e049f91a12e0cc7d569d1688f5c28993bd16223b5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳亭妃 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:24:24 - 09:33:32 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-01-07T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期經濟委員會第19次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查本院委員陳亭妃等16人擬具「農業科技園區設置管理條例增訂第十五條之一條文草案」案。
二、審查本院委員李柏毅等16人擬具「植物品種及種苗法第五十三條之一條文修正草案」案。
三、審查：
(一) 本院委員陳亭妃等16人擬具「農產品市場交易法第六條及第三十五條條文修正草案」案。
(二) 本院委員邱議瑩等20人擬具「農產品市場交易法第十五條條文修正草案」案。
(三) 本院委員陳瑩等16人擬具「農產品市場交易法第十條條文修正草案」案。
以上全案於1月7日（星期三）、1月8日（星期四）詢答及處理。
【1月7日及8日二天一次會】） |
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請陳寗代委員質詢謝謝主席 我們請部長來 請陳部長 |
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委員好 部長好部長 我們9月我們的花卉創新園區正式掛牌了 是那現在有一個問題就產生了也是我這一次修法非常重要的一個議題也就是我們整個花卉園區進駐之後我們發現我們目前有68家 |
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可是我們自然人體獨資的商號是達40家那如果依照我們整個農業科技園區的設置管理條例它是必須要以公司法組織的對 股份有限公司才有辦法在這裡面那你也知道 |
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在我們的後壁蘭花園區我們花卉園區的前身就是後壁蘭花園區這個當時候是我們台南縣縣政府一路規劃然後這些廠商大家的協助才有看到今天這樣的光景我們才有辦法去打國際牌 |
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但是因為整個的需求度太高我們當時就希望我們從地方的一個量能可以變成是我們政府中央政府的協助量能所以我們也在111年我們做了由中央農委會來掛牌 |
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那一路走到現在今年九月正是因為我們國發會還有我們整個國家計畫的公建計畫核准所以我們變成了四級單位我們的花會園區那麼 |
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现在问题来了也是这一次修法的重点所以我们待会会有修正动议就我们要把它修得更完整所以我也同意部长所说的就是说我们要趁这次修法把它修得更完整也就是说目前大家我们的厂商所面临的问题就是他没办法成立公司啊 |
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他在第一时间进驻的时候他就是小型的一个私人企业根本就没有公司那你现在让他成为公司他有极度的困难另外一个重点继承的问题 |
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继承的问题所以这个对他们是极尽不公平所以我会提修正动因依照我们在整个比较完整性的就是说当然他的继承要以一人因为你好多人也没办法去做确认一人但是呢也就是他们是可以用他们过去的这样的 |
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身份然後繼續維持在我們的花卉園區創新園區的這樣的一個條件所以這個修完之後我們就可以改變我們現在他們所擔憂的一些問題否則這段時間應該主任就很清楚這個問題是他們現在最擔心害怕的他們資格受到影響所以我覺得這個部分我們今天應該要趕快過 |
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因為已經有問題產生了包括繼承因為剛好父親在這段時間過世沒有辦法繼承如果我們再拖下去他的權力就會受損所以這個部分我們今天在整個修正動議完之後我們希望今天可以快速的讓他通過部長有沒有問題 |
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我想沒問題 剛才其實謝謝委員對這個議題的關心因為園區本身過去只有蘭花只有屏東園區它就是從企業進駐的後來蘭花園區併入了以後同樣要用這個社管條例那相對的蘭花園區的屬性跟本來農科園區的屬性是不一樣的所以針對這個獨資跟自然的部分是蘭花園區最主要的一個特質所以我們也非常支持這樣的一個修法 |
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那这个修法过了以后农业部刚才的版本又增加的一项就是在修法之前已经有这样的一个事实的话我们也希望能够比照办理对那这样的话就是可以缩集追溯对可以追溯这个也很重要所以我们希望它是一个完整性的尤其就像部长所说的我们当时候我们能够去创这个园区时代背景都不一样是 |
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跟屏東的園區跟我們這邊園區是不一樣的所以我們勢必應該要讓我們的所有蘭花業者會安心這樣我們才可以作為兵不然我們原本要讓他們還有條件結果因為這個條件他們要被排擠掉這就是不對的所以我們希望今天趕快去處理這個部分也是我為什麼要趕快去排這個案子的重點因為我們等很久了我們農業部一直沒有版本送進來 |
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所以我哪個蛋影響他們的權益太大了因為現在已經問題出現了所以我們希望今天要趕快過然後呢另外我們部長剛剛有講的就是說在整個交易市場的部分這個部分我想部長 |
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我們是不是可以這樣來調整討論就是說因為我們希望是穩定整個交易市場不要因為有人的哄抬或是刻意去做所有的管控而造成市場的一個交易不公平或是有哄抬物價的一個問題所以剛剛部長所說的如果以承銷人自然人你那個 |
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整个罚还的部分要有一定的一个标准跟认据否则他也没有办法去负担但是对于批发市场是OK的所以如果我们在这个第35条部分我们把它做调整对于批发市场我们应该要有一个重罚如果我们都比照过去对他们根本不痛不痒 |
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根本不痛不癢所以如果我們做一個修正針對批發市場我們應該要提高罰款這個OK嗎可以 就像我們農業部建議的版本裡面特別有提到就是違反第14條之一就是違反批發市場的經營者他本身應該要比較重的罰則那對於那個自然人跟承銷人的部分我們希望維持原來的一個罰則因為他跟其他的法規是有橫平性的 |
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所以我同意你們的說法所以待會我會提修正動議我們一樣因為大家都知道我們台南是很重要的一個所謂的這個農產品的一個出貨地所以我們很害怕每一次很多的農民都跟我們說其實台北花園我們這裡根本就沒有那個感受所以就表示中間有人剝削了這一塊利益那是誰大家都清楚 |
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所以我觉得这一块我们就是要有重罚才能给他们更多的一些约束跟压力这部分没有问题吧没有问题那另外一个部分就是我们国际兰花展又要展开了现在都在筹备了这个部分部长 |
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藍花獸 你知道它非常熱門現在我們這個花卉創新園區去年不是你們對嗎 因為我們9月才掛牌嘛 今年是你們 |
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都是我們農業部啦對 都農業部但是不一樣現在是四級單位喔過去是我們偉在屏東我們的農業科技園區裡面這一次是你們四級單位喔自己首次喔首次自己主導喔來我們就看可不可以打出一支好的品牌 |
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這一支在去年已經有點夯度了 還不是很夯有點夯度了 還不是很夯今年把它做出效果好不好好 我們會全力以赴藍花獸喔 這個部分我對你們期許因為如果能夠有一個非常重要的一個代表性 |
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你也知道現在網路它的行是有一個代表性所以如果它可以變成是一個代表性它是不一樣的我們期待喔我們期待首次花卉創新園區我們市集單位這個部分怎麼樣把它做得更好期待 謝謝好 謝謝 謝謝維恩 |