| IVOD_ID |
166780 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/166780 |
| 日期 |
2026-01-05 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-36-17 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期司法及法制委員會第17次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
17 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期司法及法制委員會第17次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-01-05T10:15:56+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-01-05T10:33:04+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:17:08 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/8c294bbfbc570b581cb9114474db0cf22e37ed2c5933891aaea507db77ca6918d62f1d0114869a9f5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
沈發惠 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:15:56 - 10:33:04 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-01-05T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期司法及法制委員會第17次全體委員會議（事由：邀請運動部部長、考選部部長就「運動部組織效能與人才考選制度：針對體育行政類科應試科目修正、運動產業發展中心定位及多元人力運用機制之展望」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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主席 先請考選部請考選部 何部長委員早部長早我想今天的主題剛才陳培宇委員在質詢的時候有提到 |
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首先第一個問題是跟我們司法法治委員會最有關聯的部分這次我們要配合運動部成立所以我們體育行政人才的考選制度的檢討這是我們今天的一個重要的主題陳培宇委員有把時間序有關於我們這次體育行政 |
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考試專業科目的變動時程剛才有出來這個部分我看就是剛才有一些部分我們沒有回答到個人比較關心的 |
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這個你們就是剛才提到在去年的這個11月4號你們做了一個預告做了一個預告那時候預告要把原本的這個體育行政與管理跟這個運動社會學兩顆合併成一顆對不對11月4號你們公告的預告的11月4號到11月10號這個7天的時間你們預告了要改 |
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什麼叫做這兩顆合併成一顆就是說其實對於考生來講從考生的角度來講就我本來準備200分的這個科目現在這200分變成100分了就只剩下100分這個是對從考生的角度來看就是兩顆的合併那你們在11月4號預告之後馬上在11月10號就引起了這個 |
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不同的意見11月10號台灣運動社會學學會他們就發表聲明這聲明我想這部長不知道有沒有看到他馬上就是說認為這樣子的合併非常的不妥他們提出了運動社會學的專業地位不容模糊運動部成立之際更應該強化社會學的視野他們提出國際運動賽事的趨勢顯示跨領域整合的必要 |
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那最後他們結論就是呼籲考選部能夠審慎考量維持運動社會學的作為一個獨立的考科這是他們的訴求那也因為有這樣子的意見我不知道是不是因為這樣的意見總之你們在在12月24號你們就召開了一個這個這個什麼會12月24號你們 |
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你們召開了一個會議這個會議你們就是就是提出這個12月24號公告的一個結論你們結論就是好原本的預告這個就不算了你們就看起來從善如流就改回來再改回來結果你們是把運動社會學跟世界體育史合併為一個考科你們不再跟這個體育行政管理合併了你們把它跟世界體育史合併 |
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所以你們也是沒有回應同樣的問題他希望維持這個運動社會學的一個獨立考科結果你們沒有還是沒有維持他作為一個獨立考科這樣子的考量是怎麼樣這個部長你要不要說明一下為什麼你們一定要把這個原本獨立的考科的運動社會學要跟其他科目合併本來先跟體育行政管理合併後來在開會之後結果去跟世界體育史合併 |
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跟委員報告 那我們整併類科是我們整個考試院既定方向那其實現在絕大部分的高考類科 專業科目都是四科那只有非常少數 譬如說我們的體育行政還保留五科所以這次我們就是必須要把它整併成四科只是說到底是要用專業科目四科 |
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專業科目其實它的過程就是專業科目從6科變其實我們上次是希望就是在113那時候已經希望是4科可是那時候就是因為很堅持我想每次我們到了要整併科目的時候各個專業團體都非常的堅持那這個時候怎麼辦這時候其實考檢部最應該要尊重的是運動部對 運動部就是相關的主管機關 |
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跟委員報告因為115來不及我們預計要啟動116 |
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預計要啟動疫苗因為我們現在 因為任何一次的跟委員報告因為這樣的跟動牽涉到都會牽涉到考生的權益啦 我知道不是 他刪減 他是法制作業因為我們要刪減一個科目 增加一個科目刪減一個科目要廢考試規則增加一個科目要增考試規則這必須完成考試院內部的法制作業所以他一定來不及所以我們必須一定要一定來不及沒有關係啦一定來不及沒有關係但是你們那時候在會議裡面你們是說你們在 |
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預計在115年 就是今年115年你們要全面檢討各類科的考試項目就是說除了這個體育行政以外你們所有的類科的考試項目要在今年全面檢討這是你們的這個會議的結論你們會議結論說會議的結論是專門針對體育行政說考選部預計115年全面檢討各類科考試科目含運動自然科修正案本部屆時將配合 |
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配合事實提供意見我們基本上應該是針對我們在那個就是體育行政的這一個類科所以不是要全面檢討所以你們在這個會議上面這個結論是親才講的我們那個會議只有討論體育行政類科不可能去討論到什麼類科你們說考選部預計115年全面檢討各類科考試科目本部屆時將配合事實提供意見那是運動部寫的不是我們寫的 |
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對 不是我們寫的 那我們一定是針對我們既然那個會議只針對體育行政我們就只會針對體育行政所以就是應該比較正確的講法是針對這個類科全面去檢討裡面的科目預計116年的時候會做這些相關的這些考其實現在大學的許多體育科系他們的這個所謂的運動自然科學大部分現在都變成運動科技學了 |
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跟委員報告這我們有跟黃次長有討論過基本上其實黃次長也不認為至少我的認知是他也不認為現在直接把他改成運動科技是一個好的方向今年就改當然是今年七月就要考試了今年就改是不行那個運動部至少現在他們的共識是保留運動自然科學這個科目名稱但是變動裡面的命題大綱也就是在既有的命題大綱的各個section裡面 |
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加入科技元素那這個就是密體大綱來修改 |
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喂 你好 的確是的就是你們現在你們的主張變成這個運動科目名稱不改但是你們的這個內容考題大綱去變動 是的好 這也是一個方向不過今年一定是來不及今年一定來不及因為你要顧及到考生準備的權利所以116年可能會做這樣的變動就可能會調整因為自然科學裡面包含了生理學 心理學 力學太多太多的把它拿掉也不對 |
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所以加上科技的元素是比較合理的方式這樣我同意市長留著 我們考選部可以請回了接下來 我想這個剛才也有委員關心到有關於我們這個運產中心我們是請運產中心董事長一起 |
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我們這個運動部下面這個三個行政法人這個國家運動這個訓練中心跟這個運科這個國家運科中心這兩個都是舊的原本的新設的就是我們這個運產中心那這個運產中心我們新設到現在我看到我們在在這個11這個去年的11月25號我們召開了第一次董事會召開第一次董事會所以我們現在整個董事會都已經組成了董事長也就任了好 那我們目前這個 |
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這個運產中心的我們那個法制的原則是給你們100人那我看我們預計看這個表上面預計115年就今年預計這個是要禁用44人對不對今年預計 包含委員室的那目前有幾人 目前現在現在你們工作人員有幾人現在包含籌備處大概五位 |
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你們現在董事會都已經成立了那你們預計今年要44個人但是現在你們才5個人才5個人而已那有兩位offer later你們現在目前要在哪裡辦公在那個和平東路3段137號運動在全民運動署大樓全民運動署大樓是不是那這個現在你們這個今年預計禁用44人但目前才5個人這樣的禁用的進度 |
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這個我們董事長你有什麼樣的規劃跟期許報告委員我們現在是從比較高階的包含執行長副執行長還有處長這個層次現在領選那因為我們才成立所以我們最近把招募的人才放到各大網站還有包含我們公務人員的網站 |
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因為這個跟目標差距有點大啦這44人跟5人這個一年的時間我希望我們這個運產中心這邊要努力啦但是我們還是另外一個在當初設置運產中心的時候當時我們組織條例的審查的時候大家就提出了非常多的 |
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一個最大的一個問題就是大家對於這個我們這個運產中心的這個角色他跟過去這個經濟部他的對於相關產業的這個全責分工這部分你們現在組成的董事會對於這個全責分工有什麼看法就是你們什麼樣的產業歸你們什麼樣的產業歸經濟部 |
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好 報告委員我們在運動產業發展條例有13個產業那後面都有明訂各個部會來主責比如說有些運動器材它可能就是在原來的經濟部的範疇裡面那屬於運動的賽事都在我們的運動部的範疇裡面所以都有一個明訂的項目當然還有一些新增像因為數位的科技粉絲的經濟這些還會在我們的運動本部來擔負這些責任 |
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這個部分從我們當初在設置運產中心的時候大家就對這個你們的權責分工有很大的這個也不是質疑啦就是說對於大家會很想了解說到底你們的跟經濟部的這個相關的產業的分工到底是怎麼樣啦這部分也請運產中心這邊要掌握運產中心董事長請回我們市長稍微有最後一個問題這個 |
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有關於一些新興的運動項目要納入全運會的標準我們這個標準現在到底是什麼樣的標準我的理解要把一項運動納入全民運動會它的標準是它這個項目至少要在連續兩屆的世界運動會的在哪一個規定應該是在他們的舉辦準則裡面舉辦準則裡面 |
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舉辦準則是每一次的全運會的每一次他舉辦準則都不一樣舉辦準則沒有舉辦準則是一個大致的東西然後要回到籌備縣市他本身是一個籌備會這個市長你所講的所謂舉辦準則應該是全民運動會舉辦準則全民運動會舉辦準則他是按照這個國民體育法第八條第三項所授權的一個法規 |
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它裡面我查了半天我沒有看到所謂連續兩屆這個規定那個是在地方的籌備會上面對 那是籌備會上面的所以不是你剛剛講準則所以你剛剛說準則裡面有規定我一看準則的第12條規定是應辦的種類是以世界運動會最近一屆已舉辦最近一屆 它沒有要求連續兩屆最近一屆已舉辦或者是將辦甚至還沒有辦過將辦裡的競賽種類違憲 |
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也就是說按照你們的這個全民運動會的舉辦準則你只要未來屆屆要辦或者是已經辦過一屆就可以 那就可以納入沒有錯 可是最後的決定前還是回到了籌備處這個地方回到籌備處 那籌備處按照我們這個準則的第13條籌備處他有通過了這個運動競賽規程他還必須經過運動競賽審查會審議所以還是回到你們運動還是回到你們運動部 對不對他們必須要先提出來 沒錯 |
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這個有這與時間的關係這個有關這個像舉例像是這個自由潛水這個項目這項目的這個在去年開始他們就一直在爭取要納入因為這個自由潛水它在2025年成為世界運動會的項目之一也就是它符合第12條它是已經舉辦過而且在這個賽事裡面我國這個張凱翔選手他還拿到世錦賽 |
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的這個金牌這是我們國家有競爭力的項目那他也符合這個全民運動會的準則他已經舉辦過一屆 |
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那希望要納入抱歉委員一屆這件事情是一個標準事實上還要考量的是國內可以參賽的人數跟隊伍如果報名的隊伍未達也就是沒有八個縣市可以組隊他還是辦不起來所以他必須要去考量這樣的事情都可以考量 但是像這樣子有國際競爭力的我們在市警賽有奪金 |
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那他也已經納入試運會的這個標準當然你們每一年的舉辦項目你們必須公告一年前所以在今年的這個全運會已經來不及了來不及但是在兩年後你們若堅持按照現在規定一定要舉辦兩屆試運會的話所謂兩屆試運會就是八年的時間一個比賽一個選手的黃金黃金時期就這樣八年就這樣過了 |
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等到你們說 兩屆可以辦了 全運會可以辦的時候這些選手的黃金時期就過了那按照你們法定的這個準則是只要辦過一屆 |
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委員的訴求我們充分的理解所以我剛剛才回到說這個東西提出來的時候要看看到底國內的參賽人數有沒有辦法達成比賽的時候的規模雖然我們有一位兩位少數幾位很優秀的選手但是要成為全國的全民運動會的運動種類他是不是要有足夠的隊伍來報名他才有辦法舉行比賽 |
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所以如果在沒有辦法那麼多隊伍的時候我們還是以單項錦標賽的方式來處理我們這樣子一個一個這個你當然啦還有很多很多其他條件嘛還有很多其他但是你們當初當初你們在這個 |
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桃園市政府的這個在115年全民運動會競賽規程裡面他之所以不納入就是拿出所謂的兩次試運費要兩次才可以但是事實上在這個準則裡面是只要一次就可以所以你們在法律上站不住腳你現在就提出說參賽人數足或不足參賽隊伍足或不足這個在當初的整個討論過程中沒有這個問題 |
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所以這個部分是不是請時間的關係我就希望你們能夠提出一個書面報告包括從剛才的所有我們剛講的這個這個我們這個 |
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我們這個運產中心的這個相關的這些規劃他的政策定位 他的推動機制 績效評估他的績效評估方式以及我剛剛所講的這個新興的運動項目納入這個全運會的部分你們三個月內提出會報告給我好不好好 謝謝沈發衛委員 |