| IVOD_ID |
166768 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/166768 |
| 日期 |
2026-01-05 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-20-16 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期財政委員會第16次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
16 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期財政委員會第16次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-01-05T09:32:13+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-01-05T09:44:07+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:54 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/8c294bbfbc570b58be26d96eae4b6f52eeb09d831e7021177d23619189f10e6cf5ff160f27f5ee205ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
賴士葆 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:32:13 - 09:44:07 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-01-05T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期財政委員會第16次全體委員會議（事由：邀請行政院主計總處主計長陳淑姿、財政部部長莊翠雲、國防部副部長、海洋委員會副主任委員、海巡署副署長就「115年度中央政府總預算案至今尚未審查，對國家安全及地方建設的影響」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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好 謝謝主席我先講一句話如愛其養 武愛其禮今天我們民主國家立法院存在價值就是看緊人民荷包如果今天立法院三讀通過的案子 |
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行政部門都不遵守立法院可以廢掉了加上現在行政權加上替他維持的這個幾個五個大法官居然可以下刑下警人數不夠還要說去把他釋憲 |
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就是行政權加司法權 掏空整個立法權啦所以這個預算卡在這裡只要承諾說我們審預算 一定把金額加薪馬上審 他也不敢承諾啊 也不要承諾啊煩得早晚走去跑啦 解鈴還是吸鈴人啊公開呼籲賴清德 |
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可以停止或者收緊你的鬥性吧讓我們的憲政回到正常常規來運作好 首先我們請海巡署的副主委兼不是 海外會的副主委兼海巡署的署長張副主委好 我們請張副主委主席會員好 |
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你們除了大皮肉這兩天人家炮聲濃濃今天我看到你在會前挺身而出看起來一副要替管媽來扛子彈的樣子喔你可以看喔你可以看喔12月31號中共的解放軍正在進行2025的正義使命演習時光是什麼 |
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還會主委管媽 plus你 plus底下的海巡署的八個分署長通通去吃飯啦然後留守的是副署長 副官所以怎麼樣 就大官吃飯 小官小兵上戰場我們都知道 這個演習是同作戰啦 |
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他這樣子發了幾十發的火箭彈都逼近我們的領海隨時可以打台灣的我們除了國安部的陸海空以外海軍的第一就是海巡你身為海巡署的署長 |
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你們怎麼會讓這個事情發生而且你現在還對外承認還對外跟媒體講以後扛起來這樣子所以你建議你決定是你的決定你替我媽決定說繼續吃飯是你決定的嗎是你建議的嗎這邊跟委員報告 |
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我這邊特別聲明的是我們依據當天的整個狀況在12月30號的時候他們兩波次的射擊結束以後在當天的6點鐘所有的海警船跟軍艦都已經離開我們的限制水域所以本人在晚上的9點半就跟主委建議那會議可以照常舉行 |
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那在隔天的早上5點半我們要特別評估一下海域狀況那海域狀況逐漸舒緩所有的船都往外開了這邊跟委員報告海軍署從成立到現在我們有11次從110年開始有7次的應對軍的經驗所以我們是非常有經驗有專業的一個團隊不是難道他不會最後一天你的意思就是說那個時候結束了啦 |
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這邊跟委員說我們所有的運作機制並沒有因為停止啊 |
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我們現在的戰爭你們主觀都在吃飯啦 什麼叫停職你們主觀避限 避限的人都是副觀副主觀跟那個阿兵哥在那裡啊你們大頭頭的在那裡吃飯給人家觀感非常不好來 我跟你講一句話因為今天你不是管媽啦我也不要把你罵太兇啦 |
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這個 副主委啊 沒通啦當時候薛江山的時候 八八崩災的時候他就一個人 他跟他的義務吃飯就被轟到下台今天來講的話 前線正在打仗耶會死人的耶 |
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他的海警人進來你說已經出去了再回來這個時候上面都是副主管在那裡吃飯有這麼重要嗎延期有這麼困難嗎這個東西一句話而已好我再問你具體的這個錢誰出的 |
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跟務委員報告我這邊要特別聲明很清楚他是一個專業的團隊他有專業判斷所以我們應該尊重專業然後讓專業判斷如果今天沒有專業的判斷那我們現在的運作機制不就一塌糊塗了嗎所以政府有政府的一定一致的專業的判斷跟判斷基準你回答問題前誰出的啦 |
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跟委員報告 錢是由主委的特制費那所有的規定所有的使用規範都是符合政府的規範錢總共花了多少錢7萬多好吧這個你蔣以前我再講一句話你好好聽啦你不用回答啦很悲哀啦你居然在這裡還大聲在defense |
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所以啊 這個啊 前線打仗不如吃飯重要啦吃飯比較重要 吃飯不可以改啦打仗做於打仗啦 沒有關係重要主觀的key person 八個副署長都在署長 你是海巡署的署長 也在吃飯 都在吃飯啦這個東西 嚇死 嚇盡了這個丟了海巡署的臉 真的是我們的第一線是這樣 麻煩你請回來吧我們請外交部的這個副部長 |
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請徐副部長委員好 |
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董事長我們查了一下其實你的專業你要講國防也可以啦反正那個政治系的包山包海嘛可是看你的資歷我們叫check break對不對兩年的外交部政策五年的國安會副秘書長再過來國安會諮詢委員資歷是完整的但是你國防 |
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你的國防的精力當然就是在國安會裡面設立一些啦這個也不能說你怎麼樣可是我們看到其實你最想去的是駐美代表不是嗎一度傳言你要去當駐美代表啊對不對 因為賴清德幾次沒辦法過去美國他就想要說換你去看能不能過去美國結果發現你去也過不了美國所以這個才改派國防部副部長 |
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這個我就請問你了來這裡講實話喔來立法院講實話喔外交部的副部長跟駐美大使你喜歡哪一個只要能夠替中華民國台灣工作我都願意哪一個工作你比較加薪救手啦任何工作都要在工作上學習 |
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學習的名字 學習這麼大國防部的副部長以前都是軍人出身的啦報告 報告文人副部副部長是文人副部長是啦 但是過去的副部長也都是有軍方涉獵很多的啦你的軍方涉獵最多是跟你講說在國防會的時候有啦齁但是大家都了解其實我們本人齁 大家都了解大家都了解 其實 |
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你是去不了駐美代表才到國防部副部長國防部副部長老實講位子不比駐美代表低啦但是以你外交部的外交的一個長才你應該去駐美代表只是搞不定而已啦來 我們來看對於美國跑去委內瑞拉抓馬杜洛我們政府的態度是什麼 |
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我們這種態度是什麼這個跟我們國家的利益比較沒有之間二樓社區打烏克蘭 我們就講話了啊我們在挺烏克蘭 譴責侵略請問這是不是侵略這是不是侵略 我問你是不是侵略是不是侵略如果有相關就是要強化我們自己應對突發狀況的準備是不是侵略嘛 就問你是不是侵略 |
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俄羅斯進去烏克蘭他還是要保護他的子民啊旁邊烏東的地方都講俄羅斯語啊 |
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它是為了國家安全啊它怕這個NATO北約不斷地通過俄羅斯它是這樣講啊它出兵 烏克蘭我們政府第一時間跳出來說這個侵略行為 譴責你要不要譴責一下美國侵略為了自身的私有利益安一個罪名 不管這個罪名怎麼樣你怎麼可以到別的國家去抓人呢如果要這樣子用同樣的Mindset |
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這個就是現在變成唐羅主義了 門羅主義的這個叫 Donald Trump唐羅主義中南美洲變成是美國的勢力範圍門羅主義重要的核心思想就是 美洲是美洲人的美洲同樣啊 大陸一直講啊 |
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我們要強化我們自己引發突發狀況的能力你們準備好了 萬一他們要有所謂的斬首行動國防部準備好了沒有這跟你的關係有關係的根據我們突發狀況應對的規則我們有相關的準備有信心 |
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我們有相關的準備有沒有信心啊 準備有沒有信心啊準備永遠要精進有沒有信心說絕對不會被他們得寸我們要做好最好的準備所以你不敢講咧還講得這麼保守我都做球給你 這麼大力做球給你你要表現啊 國防部副部長要表現說絕對沒有問題 放心只要我當副部長一天絕對不會讓他得寸所以你敢不敢講可以嗎 你講完我就下去 |
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候委員 根據我們自己的規定我們要做好最好的準備所以我希望大會能夠盡快審查我們預算所以沒信心就對了好 謝謝賴委員國防預算通過之後他們會更有信心好 來 接下來我們請郭國文委員 |