| IVOD_ID |
166748 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/166748 |
| 日期 |
2025-12-31 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-35-24 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期外交及國防委員會第24次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
24 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
35 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
外交及國防委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期外交及國防委員會第24次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-12-31T10:33:53+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-12-31T10:43:50+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:57 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/c2638f9bef880eb1cb82c6cce21a18d729097fae15897403c47a344ae2d12b2494876b56de8f8c9f5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
王定宇 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:33:53 - 10:43:50 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-12-31T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期外交及國防委員會第24次全體委員會議（事由：邀請僑務委員會委員長徐佳青報告「鏈結海外僑臺商與臺灣產業共同發展之成果」，並備質詢。） |
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好 謝謝主席 麻煩委員長前委員長王委員長 委員長 老趙你今天比較辛苦一點不會不會好 那個我第一個問題是跟中國剛執行的不正義沒有使命的軍演有關係啦他們很會取名字就是拿軍事力量威脅別的國家叫做 |
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正義使命這個就是黑白顛倒獎但是合謀是他們的權利那中國軍事常態化在台灣周邊在日本旁邊在渤海灣黃海韓國旁邊南海菲律賓旁邊甚至於今年二月份跑到澳洲的外海進行實彈軍演所以中國這種軍演威脅區域和平穩定台灣當然首當其衝但台灣絕對不是唯一啦那這跟你們僑委會有什麼關係呢 |
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我要請教就是說我們海外的僑界支持中華民國台灣的僑界或者過去傳統像蝶敏月那邊有一些反共的僑界對於這些軍演我們僑委會有做了哪些努力或者有哪些聲音以國際盟友來講縱使沒有正式的邦交關係歐盟歐盟發表的談話叫做 |
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中國軍演加劇了這個區域的緊張危及了國際的和平穩定歐盟還說歐盟的發言人正式出來說台海是一個非常重要地方牽涉到國際的安全跟繁榮的戰略重要性這個是歐盟那我再舉個例子英國外相說 |
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反對 他一樣 他認為中國的軍演影響到區域的和平穩定反對這種片面的去影響現狀影響和平穩定的一些作為呼籲用對話來取代軍演日本 日本直接透過共同社表達他們外交單位有向中國表達中國軍演對這個區域形成區域緊張的影響 |
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那川普總統呢很有意思川普總統他直接講中國不敢啦中國不敢啦不會啦他的口氣也是 我沒辦法模仿他啦那美國的台灣連線的主席這Craig |
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他表達說中國這個軍演影響了區域的和平穩定他們給予譴責並且呼籲加速提供台灣必要的自衛能力另外共和黨的軍事委員會在軍事委員會的主席Wicker他訪問過台灣Wicker也表達了跟台灣連線共同的看法我還可以念法國的啦菲律賓都有啦這一些聲明有一個共同的特色 |
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就是誰在鬧事?中國它所有的共同特色就是中國的軍演破壞了這個區域的和平穩定製造了區域的緊張呼籲什麼?呼籲中國不要單方面改變和平現狀不要單方面改變海峽現狀這大概就是共同的政治的呼籲我比較遺憾的台灣竟然有在台灣的政黨直接是講台灣犯錯所以中國才軍演 |
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那個軍演要準備數週數月的沒有一件事情隔夜就能軍演的那給合理化威脅者合理化他的藉口然後對內部呢拿著中共的槍桿子對內部進行威脅什麼可以主張什麼不能主張這個是政治問題你當政務官不適合回答我現在要問的就是各國的國際盟友都在 |
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指著中國說你製造區域緊張希望和平穩定而破壞和平穩定的是中國就目前僑委會我不知道你們這幾天有沒有聯絡全球的僑界目前僑界支持中華民國台灣的僑界的聲音是什麼 |
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第一個我們當然把這個重大訊息讓我們180位在海外的僑務委員要優先知道這個事情那由於我們今年的僑務委員會議已經在進行全社會防衛任性的一個演練所以台灣任何的這個無論是天災或是有任何的緊急事故的變動那我們海外的僑界呢都是24小時密切 |
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僑界有沒有聲音有沒有組織化的聲音因為他們都在各僑居國嘛他們當地國的政治領袖都在譴責這樣的軍演聲援和平穩定聲援台灣那我們的僑界有沒有比較具體的聲音出來 |
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目前僑界當然僑務委員他們是彼此都在互相的聯繫然後討論或者是去表達這個給他們在地的國會議員希望能夠大家維持兩岸的這個區域穩定跟和平的狀態但是沒有僑界具體的活動我更具體來講我們僑委會每年我們編這些預算在服務僑界 |
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在國家面對威脅的時候僑會應該更進一步我們透過僑界的影響力去影響當地的國會議員地方政要該國對台灣對中華民國給予更大的支援這個是我剛才講的是收集有沒有相關的訊息 |
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我現在更進一步我們能不能讓喬介在對他自己的故國台灣做多一點的貢獻那對於有一些他根本不是我們國家的人我講的滇緬月喬他們是長期反共支持中華民國的可以發揮他的影響力你們目前有沒有這個工作的計畫 |
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我們是希望未來要朝向這個方向沒有錯所以是為什麼我們今年開始做這個防衛任性的演練也就是說讓海外的僑界可以做跨國性的跨區域的一些組織的脈絡一旦有任何狀況的時候看起來你們目前還是在被動的收集資訊那我期待因為中國對台灣的威脅過去幾十年越來越緊迫了從歷史的長河來看台灣不管誰執政 |
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中國對台的軍演沒有少過那把它規則於誰執政就怎麼樣不僅是歷史的文盲而且是附和了中共的論調委員我們在還沒有成立在野黨就是不能說在野黨 |
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未解嚴前只有一個政黨的時代就已經受到中共非常大的威脅從來沒有停過Google也有就是說從台灣本身的政治更迭來上來講他要侵略併吞台灣不會因為誰執政停止從地緣政治來看威脅的也不是只有台灣難道菲律賓是民進黨執政日本是民進黨當首相澳洲現在首相是民進黨執政 |
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即便同為共產國家的越南也經常受到對 沒有錯從客觀的國際現實從台灣內部的政治更迭這件事情是國際麻煩製造者中國的野心跟台灣的政治局勢其實是無關但我很遺憾國內有這樣做所以我剛才問就是說我們僑委會從收集資訊到主動 |
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營造僑界做出有我的行動以外我現在問的另外一個就是那如果有因為僑務委員是政府的職務啊他也是一個榮譽職當然我們還有僑務的榮譽職我們有僑務委員榮譽的僑務職不管什麼樣的職務 |
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但僑務委員是總統聘任的有法源依據的總是這些頭銜是來自我國的法源依據我們政府的一級機關給予授權嘛如果有僑務委員去附和中國的說法認為是台灣挑釁認為是委員這個以前有發生過 |
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馬總統時期因此開除了兩個僑務委員所以當時馬政府也開除僑務委員嘛是沒錯所以我說這個一致的這個沒有分誰執政我的意思說現在如果我們僑務委員中國的軍演中國的軍演結果附和中共的論調 |
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指台灣挑釁這有點像色狼意圖對女性不軌你不去檢討色狼檢討女性的穿著一樣荒謬我們要講什麼主張什麼是一個自由民主開放社會的權利不管叫總統或者是菜市場做生意的都有主張的權利沒有人可以拿槍桿子來威脅一個自由民主國家你可以主張什麼你不能主張什麼主張那個造成別人拿槍威脅你就是我們自己不對 |
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我們自己國內有人這樣主張那是國人沒辦法開除這個人啊但是如果有僑務委員做這樣的主張的話我會要求僑務委員過去馬政府也開除過兩個對你們應該要去看有沒有會 我們會來了解如果他們有在群組或公開做這些狀況我這邊不公開點名啦我有資料我會給你啦好的我認為這個是 |
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黨派是民主競爭OK國家存亡是共同利益沒有黨派之分如果有人拿軍拿軍事力量拿著槍指著我們國人的腦袋還在附和他的話 |
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哪有一丁點資格跟臉皮拿我們國家榮譽紙這個就要處理所以這一個部分我認為我們僑委會可以從收集資訊進一步影響僑界做出對台灣有利的事情到進一步我們要看看哪一些人其實是拿著中華民國國旗反中華民國這個應該要做處理請委員提供資訊謝謝委員長謝謝王委員 |