| IVOD_ID |
16667 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/16667 |
| 日期 |
2025-05-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-3-11 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期第11次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
11 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期第11次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2025-05-13T08:30:28+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-05-13T20:43:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
12:12:32 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://h264media01.ly.gov.tw:443/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1M/8398b1826590a60969a4922fc678392b313f24779fd214cf52bdb8234cc31cac1bd06d132cd7eba85ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-05-13T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第3會期第11次會議（事由：一、討論事項：本院民進黨黨團，針對第11屆第3會期第7次會議報告事項第4案台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「因應通膨強化社會韌性特別條例草案」院會所作之決定提出復議。是否有當？請公決案等33案。二、5月9日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。三、5月13日下午5時至6時為處理臨時提案時間。） |
| 委員名稱 |
完整會議 |
| 委員發言時間 |
08:30:28 - 20:43:00 |
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抱怨會現在我們繼續開會進行討論事項第13案國家住宅及都市更新中心114年度預算案請宣讀報告 |
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本院内政委员会分别于113年11月13日及12月9日举行全年委员会议审查本案由张召集委员洪璐担任主席审查时邀请内政部部长刘世芳及国家驻载及都市更新董事长花敬群率同相关单位人员列行说明并答复委员咨询本案审查完全提判委员会公决约会讨论前不需经党团协商并推请张召集委员洪璐于讨论时做补充说明宣读完毕 |
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我們現在請召集委員張宏祿委員補充說明本案經審查會決議不需再交由黨團協商請問院會有無異議報告院會現在沒有任何一個立法委員在現場三個黨團要負最高的責任這樣子審查法案立法院絕對沒有辦法再繼續審查 |
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我们现在休息请三个党团自律自重立刻派出立法委员到议场现在休息 |
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謝謝盧縣議委員報告院會我們現在繼續開會繼續進行討論事項第13案本案經審查會決議不需再交由黨團協商請問院會有無異議請問盧縣議委員有無異議本案經審查會意見處理請宣讀國家住宅及都市更新中心 |
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国家作杂期都市更新中心114年度预算书一工作计划应依据收入支出固定资产建设改良过冲及资金运用等项追准查及我社统调整二收入支出及预处一收入二支出含所得税费用三本期剩余均照列三固定资产建设改良过冲照列四本项通过决议倾向宣读完毕 |
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召审参会意见通过 全案经过二读 现有民进党党团提议继续进行三读 请问院会有无异议谢谢 卢先生议委员 请宣读经过二读的内容国家住宅及都市更新中心一百十四年度预算书 宣读完毕三读内容已宣读完毕 请问院会有无文质修正 |
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沒有文字修正我們現在作以下決議國家住宅及都市更新中心114年度預算案照審查會報告通過 |
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我們進入討論事項第十四案財團法人二二八事件紀念基金會等八家財團法人一百一十四年度預算案我們先進行財團法人二二八事件紀念基金會一百一十四年度預算案請宣讀審查報告 |
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委員內政委員會分別於113年11月13日及12月9日舉行全英委員會議審查本案由張兆景委員紅綠擔任主席審查時邀請內政部部長劉世芳及參議院法人二月八事件紀念基金會執行長藍世博率同相關單位人員列席說明並答覆委員質詢本案審查完具體報議會公決議會討論前不需經黨團協商並推請張兆景委員紅綠與討論時做補充說明宣讀完畢 |
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請召集委員張宏祿委員補充說明沒有補充說明本案經審查會決議不需再交由黨團請問院會林國正委員跟盧先一委員有意見沒有意見好本案經審查會意見處理請宣讀裁判人二二八事件紀念基金會 |
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財團法人228事件經典基金會114年度於申書依依工作計畫因依據收入與支出審查結果隨當調整而輸入支出僅逾處依收入而支出三本其剩餘短處均照列宣讀完畢報院會本案全案已經經過二讀現由民進黨黨團體繼續進行三讀請問院會有異議請宣讀經過二讀的內容 |
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財團法人228事件紀念基金會114年度預算書宣讀完畢報言會我們刪讀內容已宣讀完畢請問院會有無文字修正沒有文字修正我們先來做以下決議財團法人228事件紀念基金會114年度預算案照審查會報告通過 |
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我們繼續處理財政法人中央營建技術顧問研究室研究室114年度預算案請宣讀審查報告 |
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本院内政委员会分别于113年11月13日及12月9日举行全英委员会议审查本案由张赵景委员红路担任主席审查时邀请内政部部长刘世芳及财团法人中央营建技术顾问研究室董事长谢孟展率同相关单位人员联系说明并答复委员咨询本案审查完全提报约会公决约会讨论前不需经党团协商并推请张赵景委红路于讨论时做补充说明宣读完毕 |
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報告院會本案經審查會決議不須再交由黨團協商請問院會有異議面議本案經審查會意見處理請宣讀財團法人中央營建技術顧問研究室財團法人中央營建技術顧問研究室一百十四年度預申書依工作情況應依據收入與支出審查結果隨同調整而收入支出以及預儲依收入而支出省本期剩餘均照列宣讀完畢 |
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我們現在全案經過二讀現有民進黨黨團提議繼續進行三讀民進黨黨團提議現在現場一個民進黨立委都沒有我們繼續進行請問院會有異議沒有異議請宣讀經過二讀的內容財產法人中央營建技術顧問研究室一百十四年度預算書宣讀完畢報議會我們三讀內容已宣讀完畢請問院會有文字修正 |
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沒有文字修正我們現在做以下決議財團法人中央營建技術顧問研究室設114年度預算案照審查會報告通過報告員會我們繼續處理財團法人台灣建築中心114年度預算案請宣讀審查報告 |
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本院内政委员会分别于113年11月13日及12月9日举行全英委员会议审查本案由张兆锦委员洪璐担任主席审查室邀请内政部部长刘世芳及参堵访人台湾建筑中心董事长崔茂森率同相关单位人员联席说明比较复原之讯本案审查完均提报委员会公决委员会讨论前不需经党团协商并推请张兆锦委员洪璐于讨论时做补充说明宣读完毕 |
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我們請召集委員張宏祿委員補充說明張宏祿委員沒有到場沒有補充說明本案經審查會決議不須再交由黨團協商請問院會有異議沒有異議本案經以審查會意見處理請宣讀財政法人台灣建築中心 |
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2562.727 |
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我們照審查會意見通過全案經過二讀現有民進黨黨團提議繼續進行三讀請問院會有異議沒有異議請宣讀經過二讀的內容宣讀完畢 |
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我們刪讀內容已宣讀完畢請問院會有文字修正沒有文字修正我們現在做以下決議財團法人台灣建築中心114年度預算案照審查報告通過法院會我們繼續處理財團法人台灣省義勇人員安全記住基金會114年度預算案請宣讀審查報告 |
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本月内政委员会分别于113年11月13日及12月9日举行全英委员会议审查本案由张兆景委员洪璐担任主席审查室邮请内政部部长刘世芳及参谈访人台湾省议员人员安全基础基金会董事长方杨宁率同相关单位人员列行署秘密党副委员咨询本案审查完之后提报愿会公决愿会讨论前不需请党团先生并推行张兆景委员洪璐与讨论时做补充说明宣读完毕 |
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請召集委員張宏祿委員補充說明不到場沒有補充聲明說明本案經審查會決議不需再交由黨團協商請問院會有異議沒有異議本案經審查會意見處理請宣讀財政法人台灣省義勇人員安全記住基金會 |
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財團法人和臺灣省應用人員安全基礎基金會114年度預算書依工作計畫應依據收入與支出審查結果隨同調整而收入支出及預儲依收入而支出三本期短處均帳列宣讀完畢照審查會意見通過全案經過二讀現有民進黨黨團體繼續進行三讀請問院會有異議沒有異議請宣讀經過二讀之內容 |
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財團法人台灣省義勇人員安全基礎基金會辦14年度預算書宣讀完畢報議會三段內容已宣讀完畢請問有無文字修正沒有文字修正我們現在做以下決議財團法人台灣省義勇人員安全基礎基金會114年度預算案照審查報告通過 |
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我們現在繼續處理財團法人威權同志時期國家不法行為被害者權利回復基金會114年度預算案請宣讀審查報告 |
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本院内政委员会分别于113年11月13日及12月9日举行全体委员会议宣查本案由张兆锦为红绿担任主席宣查时邀请内政部部长刘世芳及参军法人威权统治实际国家不法行为被害者权利回复进行会的执行者孙斌率同相关单位人员联系说明并党副委员咨询本案者小文俊提报约会公决约会讨论前不需经党团协商并推请张兆锦为红绿于约会时 |
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討論時做補充說明宣讀完畢請召集委員張宏祿委員補充說明張宏祿委員不在場無補充說明本案經審查會決議不需再交由黨團協商請問院會有異議沒異議本案經審查會意見處理請宣讀財團法人威權同志時期國家不法行為被害者權利回復基金會 |
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财政法人威权统治时期国家不法行为被汉者权利回复基金会114年度预审书因工作情况因依据收入与支出审查结果随同调整而收入支出及余处因收入而支出三本集胜于军长列宣读完毕照审判意见通过全案经过二读现有民进党党团体继续进行三读请问愿会有无异议没有异议请宣读经过二读之内容 |
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財團法人威權統治時期國家不法行為被害者權利回復基金會114年度預算書宣讀完畢我們三讀內容已宣讀完畢請問院會有無文字修正沒有我們現在做以下決議財團法人威權統治時期國家不法行為被害者權利回復基金會114年度預算案照審查報告通過 |
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法院会我们继续处理财政法人警察学术研究基金会114年度预算案请宣读审查报告 |
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委員內政委員會分別於113年11月13日及12月9日舉行全年委員會議審查本案由張兆景委員洪璐擔任主席審查時邀請內政部長劉世芳及參堆訪人警察學術研究基金會董事長楊元明率同相關單位人員列席署名並打訪委員質詢本案審查文俊提報優惠公決優惠討論前不需經黨團協商並推請張兆景委員洪璐於討論時做補充說明宣讀完畢 |
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請召集委員張宏祿委員補充說明張宏祿委員不在場無補充說明本案經審查會決議不需再交由黨團協商請問院會有無異議沒有異議本案經以審查會意見處理請宣讀財團法人警察學術研究基金會 |
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財團法人警察學術研究基金會一百十四年度預選書依依工作計畫依依據收入與支出審查結果所同調整二 收入支出及預出依依收入二支出三本期限於軍障劣宣讀完畢照審查會意見通過全案經過二讀現有民進黨黨團提議繼續進行三讀請問院會有異議免議請宣讀經過二讀的內容財團法人警察學術研究基金會一百十四年度預選書宣讀完畢 |
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三讀內容已宣讀完畢請問院會有無文字修正沒有文字修正我們做以下決議財團法人警察學術研究基金會114年度預算案照審查報告通過我們先繼續處理財團法人義勇消防人員安全記住基金會114年度預算案請宣讀審查報告 |
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本院内政委员会分别于113年11月13日及12月9日举行全英委员会议宣查本案由张兆景委员红路担任主席陈昌时邀请内政部部长刘世芳及参队访人易勇相逢人员安全记住基金会董事长冯俊义率同相关单位人员列行说明并答复委员执行本案者蒋文俊提报委员会公决约会讨论前不需经党团协商并推请张兆景委员红路于讨论时做补充说明宣传完毕 |
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我們請召集委員張宏祿委員補充說明張宏祿委員還是不在場無補充說明本案經審查會決議不需再交由黨團協商請問院會有無異議沒有異議本案經以審查會意見處理請宣讀財產法人易勇消防人員安全記住基金會 |
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2995.52 |
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我們照審查會意見通過全案經過二讀現有民進黨黨團體繼續進行三讀請問願會有異議沒有異議請宣讀經過二讀的內容 |
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財團法人應有消防人員安全基礎基金會114年度預算書宣讀完畢三讀內容已宣讀完畢請問院會有無文職修正沒有修正我們現在做以下決議財團法人義勇消防人員安全基礎基金會114年度預算案照審查報告通過辦院會我們接著繼續處理財團法人台灣營建研究院114年度預算案請宣讀審查報告 |
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本院内政委员会分别于113年11月13日及12月9日举行全民委员会议审查本案由张召集委员洪璐担任主席审查时邀请内政部部长刘世芳及参谈访人台湾营建研究院董事长丁彻氏率同相关内委人员列席说明并答复委员咨询本案审查完均提报约会公决约会讨论前不需经党团先生并推请张召集委员洪璐于讨论时做补充说明宣读完毕 |
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請召集委員張宏祿委員補充說明張宏祿委員還是不在場無補充說明本案經審查會決議不須再交由黨團協商請問院會有無異議沒有異議本案經審查會意見處理請宣讀財政法人台灣營建研究院 |
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財政法人臺灣營建研究院114年度預申書依工作計畫應依據收入與支出審查結果相同調整二收入支出給予處依收入二支出三本期剩餘均照列宣讀完畢照審查會意見通過全案經過二讀現有民進黨黨團體繼續進行三讀請問院會有異議沒有異議我們請宣讀經過二讀之內容 |
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財團法人台灣營建研究院114年度預算書宣讀完畢三讀內容已宣讀完畢請問院會有文字修正沒有修正我們現在做以下決議財團法人台灣營建研究院114年度預算案照審查報告通過 |
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我们先进入讨论事项第15案财团法人援助民族文化事业基金会及财团法人援助民族语言研究发展基金会114年度预算案先进行财团法人援助民族文化事业基金会114年度预算案请宣读审查报告 |
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本院内政委员会分别于113年11月11日及11月25日举行全委员会议审查本案由张兆久和洪璐担任主席审查时邀请财政法人员住民族文化事业基金会董事长马拉欧斯率同相关单位人员列行说明并党副委员咨询本案审查完均提报议会公决议会讨论前不需经党团协商并推请张兆久和洪璐于讨论时做补充说明宣读完毕 |
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我們請召集委員張宏祿委員補充說明張宏祿委員還是不在場沒有補充說明本案進行審查會意見決議不需再交由黨團協商請問院會有異議沒有異議本案進行審查會意見處理請宣讀財團法人援助民族文化事業基金會 |
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财团法人员驻民族文化事业基金会114年度预算书依依工作计划依依据收入与支出审查结果选择调整二收入支出给予处一收入二支出三本期团处均照列三本项通过决议二项宣读完毕照审查会意见通过全案经过二读现有民进党党团提议继续进行三读请问愿会有意义愿意请宣读经过二读的内容 |
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財團法人原住民族文化事業基金會114年度預算書宣讀完畢三讀內容已宣讀完畢請問院會有無文字修正沒有文字修正我們現在作以下決議財團法人原住民族文化事業基金會114年度預算案照審查報告通過報告院會我們繼續處理財團法人原住民族語言 |
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研究發展基金會114年度預算案請宣讀審查報告 |
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3298.98 |
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本院内政委员会分别于123年11月11日及11月25日举行全体委员会宣查本案由张赵九元洪璐担任主席宣查时邀请财政法人员驻民族语言研究发展接近会董事长马耀古牧率同相关单位人员列行说明并答复委员咨询本案者乔文俊提报约会公决约会讨论前不需经党团协商并推进张赵九元洪璐语讨论实作补充说明宣读完毕请赵纪委员张洪璐委员补充说明 |
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3317.55 |
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張宏陸委員還是不在場沒有補充說明本案經審查會決議不需再交由黨團協商請問院會有無異議沒有異議本案經審查會意見處理請宣讀財團法人援助民族語言研究發展基金會 |
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3320.106 |
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我們照審查會意見通過全案經過二讀現有民進黨黨團體繼續進行三讀請問院會有異議沒有異議請宣讀經過二讀之內容 |
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財團法人原住民族語言研究發展基金會114年度預算書宣讀完畢我們刪讀內容已宣讀完畢請問院會有文字修正沒有文字修正我們做以下決議財團法人原住民族語言研究發展基金會114年度預算案照審查報告通過 |
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3378.648 |
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我們現在進入討論事項第16案財團法人海峽交流基金會114年度預算案請宣讀審查報告 |
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3407.612 |
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本院内政委员会分别于113年10月4日及114年1月2日举行全天委员会议审查本案由徐肇喜委员心严担任主席审查时邀请在对方人海下交流基金会董事长吴理生率同相关单位人员联系说明并答复委员咨询本案者查完均填满约会公决约会讨论前不需请党团先生并推请徐肇喜委员心严于讨论时做补充说明宣读完毕 |
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3427.834 |
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請召集委員徐欣怡委員補充說明徐欣怡委員不在場沒有補充說明本案經審查會決議不需再交由黨團協商請問院會有無異議沒有異議本案經以審查會意見處理請宣讀財團法人海峽交流基金會 |
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3432.341 |
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照审查会意见通过全案经过二读现有民进党党团体继续进行三读请问院会有无异议 |
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請宣讀經過二讀之內容三讀內容已宣讀完畢請問院會有無文字修正沒有文字修正我們現在做以下決議財團法人海峽交流基金會114年度預算案照審查報告通過 |
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3494.6 |
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委員會我們進入討論事項第17案財團法人台港經濟文化合作策計會114年度預算案請宣讀審查報告 |
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本案审查完均提报约会公决约会讨论前不需经党团协商并推进徐教杰委员姓名与讨论实作补充说明宣读完毕 |
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我們請召集委員徐信穎委員補充說明徐信穎委員不在場沒有補充說明本案經審查會決議不需再交由黨團協商請問院會有無異議沒有異議本案經以審查會意見處理請宣讀財團法人台港經濟文化合作策定會 |
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3546.143 |
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全案經過二讀現有民進黨團提議繼續進行三讀請問院會有異議沒有異議請宣讀經過二讀的內容 |
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3592.492 |
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財團法人台港經濟文化合作策進會114年度預算書宣讀完畢我們刪讀內容已宣讀完畢請問院會有無文字修正沒文字修正 作以下決議財團法人台港經濟文化合作策進會114年度預算案照審查報告通過 |
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3604.631 |
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會議會我們進入討論事項第18案財團法人客家公共傳播基金會114年度遇上案請宣讀審查報告 |
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委員內政委員會於一百十三年十二月三十日舉行全民委員會議審查本案由徐召集委員欣盈擔任主席審查時邀請財團法人客家公共傳播基金會董事長陳芳枕率同相關單位人員列行說明並黨務委員質詢本案審查完均提報院會公決院會討論前不需經黨團協商並推請徐召集委員欣盈與討論時做補充說明宣讀完畢請召集委員徐欣盈委員補充說明 |
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3651.768 |
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徐姓委員不在場沒有補充說明本案經審查會決議不需再交由黨團協商請問院會有無異議沒有異議本案經以審查會意見處理請宣讀財團法人客家公共傳播基金會 |
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3653.674 |
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全院經過二讀現有民進黨黨團體繼續進行三讀請問院會有異議沒有異議我們請宣讀經過二讀的內容 |
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3701.323 |
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財團法人客家公共傳播基金會114年度預算書宣讀完畢我們刪讀內容已經宣讀完畢請問院會有無文字修正沒有沒有修正我們現在做以下決議財團法人客家公共傳播基金會114年度預算案照審查報告通過 |
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3704.468 |
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3717.781 |
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法院院會我們進入討論事項第19案114年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算及中計表營業及非營業部分請宣讀審查總報告及會診報告 |
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3720.953 |
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3745.812 |
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本院财政委员会与各委员会依照《中华民国114年度中庸政府损失案》横附属单位预算及冲击表应及分业部分审查分泌表及审查日程自113年11月11日起分别举行会议审查行政院所送《中华民国114年度中庸政府损失案》附属单位预算应业及分业部分为截至114年3月17日至 |
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3763.284 |
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上游外交及国防和社会福利及卫生环境委员会尚未将审查报告送达至未及会准列入审查总报告中其余议题组织审查报告由财政委员会会总整理于3月20日举行全英委员会议讨论后完成审查总报告 |
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3763.904 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].end |
3784.751 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].text |
並於3月21日函請議事處提報院會討論有關前間未及審查完略部分社會福利及衛生環境委員會於3月19日審查完略並於4月8日提出審查報告外交及國防委員會於4月2日審查完略並於4月9日提出審查報告由財政委員會會總整理後函請議事處提報院會並按討論審查結果如下 |
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以营业部分审查结果增列营业总收入留以七千四百万元减列营业总支出不含所得税费用六十五亿四千二百五十万元减增列税前净利七十二亿一千六百五十万元至于所得税费用及盈亏拨补事项自院会审议确定后再由行政院依法核算及分配各单位有关职业务计划转投资重大建设资金运用及资产负债预计等部分应分别以本案审定数额予以调整 |
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3818.866 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
3835.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].text |
二分业部分一作业基金审查结果增列业务总收入二亿三千六百六十万七千元减列业务总支出六千五百七十万元增列本期剩余三亿零二百三十万七千元至于一处不补事项 |
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3835.78 |
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3854.062 |
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4 院会审议确定后再由行政院依法核算及分配各单位有关性业务计划转投资固定资产者建设改良扩充国库增拨基金额及资金业务等部分应分别以本案审定数额予以调整2 债务基金审查结果简列基金来源10亿零500万元 |
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3880.695 |
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减列基金用途10亿500万元至于业务计划及资金运用等部分应依本案审定数额予以调整三 特别收入基金审查结果增列基金来源2亿1318万8千元减列基金用途9748万8千元增列本金剩余3亿120617万6千元至于个单未知业务计划及资金运用等部分应分别依本案审定数额予以调整 |
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3881.735 |
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3891.06 |
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4.资本计划基金审查结果,简列基金用途6亿7800万元,资历本期短处6亿7800万元。3. |
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3891.06 |
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3894.342 |
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信托基金部分审查结果均超列。4. |
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3904.768 |
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中华民国114年度中央政府总算案,经本院第11届第二会期第十方次会议审议结果,其涉及附属电汚预算营业及分业部分均占少列。 |
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3927.607 |
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因随投本付出单位预算案审议结果调整其中岁入岁出是调整仍因本院审议中华民国114年度中央政府总预算之权益及预算法等规定办理营业部分及其财政交通委员会审查结果均需向有党团审商业会讨论时经济委员会由吕兆杰委员预领财政委员会由陈兆杰委员预争 |
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交通委員會由魯肇傑委員明哲陳肇傑委員訴閱分業部分內政經濟財政教育及文化交通司法刑法軍社會福利經貿商環境委員會審查結果均須交由黨團審商外交暨國防委員會審查結果不須交由黨團審商約會討論時內政委員會由張肇傑委員紅錄外交暨國防委員會由王肇傑委員定語陳肇傑委員撥樣經濟委員會由呂肇傑委員預爭財政委員會由陳肇傑 |
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經濟委員會由呂兆吉委員育玲財政委員會由陳兆吉委員育珍教育及文化委員會由萬兆吉委員美玲交通委員會由魯兆吉委員明哲陳兆吉委員素月司法及法制委員會由吳兆吉委員宗憲中兆吉委員嘉賓社會福利及衛生環境委員會由蘇兆吉委員清泉劉兆吉委員建國出席說明 |
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信託基金部分內政經濟財政司法及法軍社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查結果均須交由黨團審商外交及國防委員會審查結果不須交由黨團審商院會討論時內政委員會由張兆景委員紅錄外交及國防委員會由王兆景委員定語財政委員會由呂兆景委員育齡財政委員會由陳兆景委員育貞司法及法政委員會由鍾兆景委員嘉賓社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
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4033.081 |
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請現在分別請各委員會召集委員說明請內政委員會召集委員張宏祿委員補充說明張宏祿委員不在場 無補充說明請外交及國防委員會召集委員王定宇委員補充說明 |
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4034.244 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].end |
4062.402 |
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王定宇委員不在場無補充說明請經濟委會召集委員呂玉玲委員補充說明呂玉玲委員不在場無補充說明請財政委會召集委員陳玉珍委員補充說明陳玉珍委員不在場無補充說明請教育及文化召集委員會萬美玲委員補充說明萬美玲委員不在場無補充說明 |
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4063.39 |
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4090.348 |
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請交通召集委員魯明哲委員補充說明魯明哲委員不在場無補充說明請司法及法治委員會召集委員吳宗憲委員補充說明吳宗憲委員不在場無補充說明請社會福利及衛生環境委員會召集委員蘇清泉委員補充說明 |
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4091.826 |
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4094.294 |
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蘇青前委員不在場 無補充說明 |
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4095.287 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].end |
4122.55 |
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本案除非營業及信託基金部分外交及國防委員會審查結果須經決議不需交由黨團協商之外其餘各委員會審查結果均須交由黨團協商依處理預算案之議事成立案單位或基金別逐項宣讀後均暫行保留等協商之後我們再行處理 |
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4125.428 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].end |
4136.083 |
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請宣讀審查總報告五營業部分各委員會審查結果經濟委員會甲經濟部主管 |
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4136.809 |
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4152.096 |
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经纪委员会加经纪部主管一台湾糖业股份有限公司一业务计划因依据营业收支生产成本转投资重大建设事业及资金运用等项制审查及股所通调整二营业收支一营业总收入改例为364亿4783万4千元 |
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4155.558 |
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4184.726 |
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二 营业总支出不含所得税利益 照列三 税前净利改例为58亿5467万9千元三 生产成本随同营业总支出审查结果调整四 转投资计划无列数五 重大最新生产业 照列六 资金运用因依据营业收支生产成本盈亏拨补转投资及重大最新生产业等向着审查结果随同调整七 补办预算 照列八 通过决议39项宣读完毕 |
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4187.781 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].end |
4212.132 |
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一 臺灣暫行保留請宣讀第二 臺灣中油股份有限公司二 臺灣中油股份有限公司一 業務計畫一 依據營業收支生產成本轉投資重大追建設事業及資金運用等項追審查結果修道調整二 營業收支一 營業總收入改例為一周二千一百二十一億二千四百八十萬四千元二 營業總支出不含所值稅費用 |
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4213.513 |
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4230.378 |
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改例为192,042亿5,291万9千元三税前净利改例为78亿7,193万5千元三生产成本随同营业总支出审查结果调整四转投资计划照列五中当地建设事业改例为545亿6,277万8千元 |
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4233.18 |
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4235.422 |
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暫行保留 請宣讀三 台灣電力股份有限公司 |
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4250.331 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].end |
4252.393 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].text |
3.台湾电力股份有限构思1. |
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4252.393 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].end |
4253.373 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].text |
业务计划1. |
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4253.373 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].end |
4260.198 |
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依据营业收支生产成本转投资送到最新设施业及资金用等上周审查结果随同调整2. |
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4260.198 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].end |
4261.499 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].text |
营业收支1. |
| transcript.whisperx[99].start |
4261.499 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].end |
4263.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].text |
营业总收入张列2. |
| transcript.whisperx[100].start |
4263.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].end |
4269.505 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].text |
营业总支出不含所得税费用改例为9910亿4756万元3. |
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4269.505 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].end |
4274.848 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].text |
税前净利改例为137亿3773万3000元3. |
| transcript.whisperx[102].start |
4274.848 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
4278.791 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].text |
生产成本随同营业总支出审查结果调整4. |
| transcript.whisperx[103].start |
4278.791 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].end |
4279.532 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].text |
转投资计划 |
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4280.092 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].end |
4296.566 |
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五 重大支建設事業均炒劣六 資金運用應依據營業收支生產成本 盈虧撥補轉投資及重大支建設事業等項目的審查結果順從調整其通過決議75項 宣讀完畢暫時保留請宣讀四 臺灣自來水股份有限公司 |
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4297.082 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].end |
4312.239 |
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四 台湾自来水股份有限公司因业务计划因依据营业收支生产成本转投资中纳最近日市业绩资金用能向着审查结果选择调整二 营业收支因营业总收入涨劣二 营业总支出不含所得税费用 |
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4312.719 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
4340.653 |
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改令为388亿2719万2千元三 最减净审改令为59亿3154万5千元三 生产成本随同营业总支出审查结果调整四 转投资计划无列数五 重大资建设事业上列六 资金运用应依据营业收支生产成本应归波波转投资及重大资建设事业等上支审查结果随同调整七 补办余损均上列八 通过权益53项宣读NP |
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4341.249 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].end |
4349.997 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].text |
暫行保留我們進入財政委員會甲行政院主管依中央銀行含中央造幣廠中央印製廠 |
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4353.031 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].end |
4371.367 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].text |
財政委員會加行政院主管以中央銀行含中央造幣廠、中央印製廠以業務計劃因依據營業收支、金融保險成本轉投資、重大製建設事業及資金業務等項目的審查結果適當調整而營業收支因營業總收入降劣而營業總支出不含所得稅費用 |
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4372.188 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].end |
4400.039 |
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改列为2,506亿5,039.3万元3 税前净利改列为1,755亿2,747.3万元3 金融保险成本营业总支出应随同调整4 转投资计划无列数5 重大制建设事业照列6 资金运用应依据营业收支金融保险成本盈亏步步转投资及重大制建设事业等项制审查结果随同调整其通过决议三十项宣读完毕 |
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4400.703 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].end |
4427.298 |
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暫行保留以財政部主管請宣讀以財政部主管通過決議八項宣讀完畢暫行保留我們宣讀一 中國輸出入銀行一 中國輸出入銀行一 業務計畫一 依據營業收支金融保險成本轉投資重大最新線事業及資金運用等相關選查結果順道挑選二 營業收支一 營業總收入張列二 營業總支出不函所的稅費用 |
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| transcript.whisperx[111].end |
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改例为46亿4198万6千元3 税前净利改例为12亿3219万5千元3 金融保险成本营业总支出因随同调整4 转投资计划无劣数5 重大制建设事业照列6 资金运用因依据营业收支金融保险成本因亏薄补转投资及重大制建设事业等上层准查结果随同调整其通过决议实项宣读完毕 |
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4454.246 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].end |
4468.048 |
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請宣讀二,臺灣金融控股股份有限公司,含臺灣銀行股份有限公司,台銀人壽保險股份有限公司,台銀綜合證券股份有限公司。 |
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4468.888 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].end |
4493.392 |
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二 台湾金融矿股股份有限公司含台湾银行股份有限公司台银人寿保险股份有限公司台银综合证券股份有限公司一 业务计划一 依据营业收支金融保险成本转投资重大建设事业及资金运用等相对审查结果随同调整二 营业收支一 营业总收入改列为3447亿5205万8000元二 营业总支出不含所得税费用 |
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4493.872 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].end |
4520.63 |
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改例为3309亿1854万8千元三税前净利改例为138亿3151万元三金融保险成本营业总支出因随同调整四转投资计划五连述五重大资计设施业照列六资金运用因依据营业收支金融保险成本应会波波转投资及重大资计设施业等上层审查结果随同调整七补办预算照列八通过决议三选项宣读完毕 |
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4521.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].end |
4541.961 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].text |
再請保留 請宣讀三 臺灣土地銀行股份有限公司三 臺灣土地銀行股份有限公司依業務計畫 應依據營業收支金融保險成本轉投資重大建設事業及資金運用等項追審查 結果隨從調整二 營業收支依營業總收入改令為八百億五千二百一十九萬九千元 |
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4543.282 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].end |
4545.685 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].text |
2.營業總支出不含所值稅費用改例為674億7155萬1千元3. |
| transcript.whisperx[117].start |
4545.685 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].end |
4547.186 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
稅情經歷改例為125億87064萬8千元3. |
| transcript.whisperx[118].start |
4547.186 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].end |
4548.548 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
經費保險成本營業總支出因隨同調整4. |
| transcript.whisperx[119].start |
4548.548 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].end |
4548.668 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
轉投資計劃5列數5. |
| transcript.whisperx[120].start |
4548.668 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].end |
4549.789 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].text |
重大之建設事業改例為10億6343萬1千元 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].start |
4563.044 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].end |
4577.652 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
六 資金運用 因依據營業收支金融保險身份 因虧貨不准投資 及中大階建設事業等項的審查結果 隨同調整七 補備選照列 八 通過決議十七項 宣讀完畢暫行保留 請宣讀四 財政部印刷廠 |
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4578.799 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
4580.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
4.财政不易刷厂1. |
| transcript.whisperx[123].start |
4580.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].end |
4581.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
业务进化1. |
| transcript.whisperx[124].start |
4581.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
4587.704 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].text |
依据营业收支生产成本转投资重大追击现实业绩资金用等项目的审查结果始终调整2. |
| transcript.whisperx[125].start |
4587.704 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].end |
4588.844 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].text |
营业收支1. |
| transcript.whisperx[126].start |
4588.844 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].end |
4592.606 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].text |
营业总收入改例为6亿9731万元2. |
| transcript.whisperx[127].start |
4592.606 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
4594.407 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].text |
营业总支出不含所得税配用 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].start |
4594.947 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].end |
4622.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].text |
改例為六億六千八百七十三萬一千元三稅前淨利改例為二千八百五十千萬九千元三生產成本營業總支出因水凍調整四轉投資企劃無劣數五中大增建設事業照列六資金運用因依據營業收支生產成本因虧部部轉投資及中大增建設事業等相關審查結果水凍調整其通過權宜以上宣讀完畢在其保留請宣讀五台灣燕酒股份有限公司 |
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4623.257 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
4651.876 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
五 台湾燕九股份有限公司一 业务计划因依据营业收支生产成本转投资中大最近涉事业及资金用等上周审查结果行动调整二 营业收支一 营业总收入涨劣二 营业总支出不含所得税费用改列为544亿9108万6千元三 税前经历改列为58亿2515万8千元三 生产成本营业总支出因随同调整四 转投资计划无劣数五 中大增 |
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4652.596 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
4677.874 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
重大支建設事業 改例為13億7349萬2千元六 資金運用 因應經營業收支生產成本 應會過不準投資及重大支建設事業等相關審查結果所要調整 其通過決議24項 宣讀完畢暫行保留 秉 金融監督管理委員會主管請宣讀一 中央存款保險股份有限公司 |
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4678.923 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
4680.564 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].text |
1.金融监督管理委會主管2. |
| transcript.whisperx[132].start |
4680.564 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
4682.786 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].text |
中央存款保險股份優先公司3.業務計畫4. |
| transcript.whisperx[133].start |
4682.786 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
4684.687 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].text |
依據營業收支5. |
| transcript.whisperx[134].start |
4684.687 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
4685.948 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
金融保險成本轉投資6. |
| transcript.whisperx[135].start |
4685.948 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
4688.709 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].text |
重大追金線事業及資金用等項追審查7. |
| transcript.whisperx[136].start |
4688.709 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].end |
4690.331 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].text |
結果順道調整2. |
| transcript.whisperx[137].start |
4690.331 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
4692.852 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
營業收支以營業總收入改例為136亿3885萬8千元2. |
| transcript.whisperx[138].start |
4692.852 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].end |
4693.052 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].text |
營業總支出不衡所得稅費用 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].start |
4697.435 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
4718.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
改例為136億3,885萬8千元增稅前期能力照列增金融保險成本營業總值抽依随同调整四 转投资计划五列数五 重大制建设事业策略六 资金运用因依据营业收支金融保险成本应会步步转投资及重大制建设事业等象征审查结果随同调整七 通过决议影像宣读完毕 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].start |
4719.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
4744.506 |
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暫行保留我們現在進入交通委員會甲交通部主管請宣讀一中華郵政股份有限公司交通委員會甲交通部主管一中華郵政股份有限公司一業務計畫一依據營業收支服務成本轉投資重大追建設事業及資金用等項追審查結果損耗調整二營業收支一營業總收入改令為2475億零411萬元二營業總支出不衡所得稅費用 |
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改定为2430亿6650万9000元3 税前净利改定为44亿3760万1000元4 服务成本随同营业总支出审查经过调整4 转投资计划无列数5 重大制建设事业改定为47亿6425万元 |
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暫時保留請宣讀二國營台灣鐵路股份有限公司 |
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4784.019 |
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4786.241 |
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2.國營臺灣鐵路股份有限公司1.業務計畫1. |
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4786.241 |
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4789.644 |
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依據營業收支服務成本轉投資2. |
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4789.644 |
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4792.546 |
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重大增進城市業績資金用等向著審查結果隨從調整2. |
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4792.807 |
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營業收支1. |
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4792.807 |
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4794.148 |
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營業總收入改令為362億3564萬6千元2. |
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4795.449 |
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營業總支出不衡所得稅費用 |
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改例为448亿4234万6千元3岁前净损改例为86亿0670万元3 服务成本最统营业总支出审查结果调整4 转投资计划无劣数5 重大资计设事业照列6 资金运用依据营业收支服务成本盈亏步步转投资及重大资计设事业的项目审查结果成功调整7 补办预算1 资金之转投资照列2 资产之变卖照列 |
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暫行保留請宣讀三台灣港務股份有限公司韓台灣港務港勤股份有限公司高雄港區土地開發股份有限公司 |
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4870.265 |
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三、台湾港务股份有限公司恒台湾港务港情股份有限公司、江雄港区土地开发股份有限公司一、业务计划一、应许营业收支服务成本转多资重大推进项事业及资金运用等项目的审查结果随同调整二、营业收支一、营业总收入改例为255亿3910元一千元二、营业总支出目前所得税费用 |
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改例为161亿4404万元三税前经历改例为93亿9507万1千元三服务成本随同业总支出审查结果调整四转投资计划无列数五重大这建设事业改例为108亿1669万3千元六资金运用依据营业收支服务成本应会步步转投资及重大这建设事业等相对审查结果选择调整七补办预算照例八通过决议23项宣读完毕 |
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4899.338 |
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4917.337 |
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在此保留 請宣讀四 桃園國際機場股份有限公司四 桃園國際機場股份有限公司依業務計畫 依依據營業收支服務成本轉投資重大支出建設事業及資金運用等項目的審查結果隨從調整二 營業收支依營業總收入改例為244億1484萬7千元二 營業總支出不衡所得稅費用 |
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改例为166亿6963万元三税前经历改例为77亿4521万7千元三服务成本随同业总支出审查结果调整四转投资企划无劣数五重大资建设事业改例为182亿1218万9千元六资金运用因依据营业收支服务成本会复部转投资及重大资建设事业等项目审查结果随同调整七补备算账列八通过决议25项宣读完毕 |
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4967.441 |
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暫停保留抱怨會我們進入六非營業部分各委員會審查結果內政委員會甲內政部主管一作業基金營建建設基金請宣讀 |
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内政委员会加内政部主管业租业基金营建建设基金1.业务计划1.依据业务收支转投资固定资产建设改良扩充及资金运用等项目审查及过程中调整2.业务收支1.业务总收入2.业务总支出3本基金与均倡列3.结价光顾金额4.转投资计划均物列数5.固定资产建设改良扩充倡列6.国库增拨基金额无力输7.补备预算倡列8.通过决议17项宣读完毕 |
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暂行保留我们进入二作业基金实施平均地权基金 |
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5000.233 |
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5002.213 |
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暫行保留我們討論三 特別收入基金新住民發展基金 |
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5051.057 |
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3.特別收入基金新住民發展基金1.業務計畫1.依據基金來源輿動審查結果隨同調整2.基金來源用途及輿觸1.基金來源2.基金用途3.本金剩餘均帳列3.計較公布連署4.通過決議二項宣讀MV暫行保留4.特別收入基金研發及產業訓處替代役基金 |
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5081 |
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四 特別收入基金嚴防及產業迅速替代役基金依業務計畫依依據基金來源與用途審查結果修正調整二 基金來源用途及輿促一 基金來源二 基金用途三倍及期短儲存整列三 減價工庫列數暫行保留五 特別收入基金警察 消防 海巡 移民 空勤人員及協助民力安全基金 |
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五 特別收入基金 警察 消防 海水 移民 空氣 人員及協情 能力 安定及安全基金一 業務計畫應據基金來源 用途審查 結果 手段調整二 基金來源 用途及餘處一 基金來源 二 基金用途 三 本集團 儲存場列 三 結交公庫列數宣言完畢暫行保留六 特別收入基金 國土永續發展基金 |
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5109.793 |
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6.特別收入基金國土永續發展基金1.業務計畫1. |
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5114.615 |
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依據基金來源用途審查結果所得調整2. |
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5116.616 |
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基金來源用途及餘處1. |
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基金來源2. |
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5117.536 |
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5118.416 |
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基金用途3. |
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5118.416 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].end |
5120.477 |
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本期剩餘均兆列3. |
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5121.898 |
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結繳公庫連署4. |
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5121.898 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].end |
5127.06 |
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通過決議三項宣讀完畢暫行保留我們進入1. |
| transcript.whisperx[170].start |
5127.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].end |
5130.941 |
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原住民族委員會主管1. |
| transcript.whisperx[171].start |
5130.941 |
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5132.322 |
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作業基金2. |
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5132.322 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].end |
5135.323 |
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原住民族綜合發展基金 |
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| transcript.whisperx[173].end |
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一 援助民族委員會主管一 租業基金援助民族綜合發展基金一 業務計劃一 依據業務收支轉投資固定資產建設改良擴充及資金運用等項目審查結果隨從調整二 業務收支一 業務總收入二 業務總支出三本計短處均照列三 減少公共金額四 轉投資計劃五 固定資產建設改良擴充六 國庫增多基金額均無劣數七 通過決議四項宣讀完畢 |
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| transcript.whisperx[174].end |
5187.962 |
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暫期保留進入秉海洋委員會主管依特別收入基金海洋污染防治基金秉海洋委員會主管依特別收入基金海洋污染防治基金依義務計畫依依據基金來源與用途審查結果所要調整二基金來源用途僅於處依基金來源二基金用途三本期剩餘群長列三結交公共無鏈數四通過決議影響全體完畢 |
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暫行保留報告委員會我們進入經濟委員會甲行政院主管一作業基金行政院國家發展基金 |
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| transcript.whisperx[176].end |
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经济委员会贾行建业主管一 作业基金 行建业国家发展基金一 业务计划一 依据业务收支转投资固定资产建设改良扩充及资金用等项者准查结果手动调整二 业务收支一 业务总收入二 业务总支出三本级剩余均涨列三 减小公务金额四 转投资计划均无列数五 固定资产建设改良扩充涨列六 国库增拨基金额无列数七 通过决议十八项宣读完毕 |
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5225.799 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].end |
5230.132 |
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暫時保留二特別收入基金請宣讀離島建設基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[178].end |
5234.888 |
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2.特別收入基金領導建設基金1.業務計畫1. |
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| transcript.whisperx[179].end |
5239.388 |
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依據基金來源用途審查結果手段調整2. |
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| transcript.whisperx[180].end |
5241.329 |
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基金來源用途給予處1. |
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5241.329 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].end |
5242.129 |
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基金來源2. |
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5242.129 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].end |
5242.869 |
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基金用途3. |
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5242.869 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].end |
5245.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].text |
本期短處均長列4. |
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5245.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].end |
5246.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].text |
結繳公估列數5. |
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5246.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].end |
5250.471 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].text |
通過決議三項宣讀完畢暫時保留我們進入3. |
| transcript.whisperx[186].start |
5250.471 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].end |
5252.691 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].text |
特別收入基金請宣讀花東地區永續發展基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].start |
5257.852 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].end |
5260.734 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].text |
3.特別收入基金化動地區永續發展基金1.業務計畫1. |
| transcript.whisperx[188].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[188].end |
5265.177 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].text |
依據基金來源用途審查結果順序調整2. |
| transcript.whisperx[189].start |
5265.177 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].end |
5267.099 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].text |
讓基金來源用途給予助1. |
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5267.099 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].end |
5267.899 |
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基金來源2. |
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5267.899 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].end |
5268.66 |
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基金用途3. |
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5268.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].end |
5270.881 |
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本期短處徵帳列3. |
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5270.881 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].end |
5271.882 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].text |
結帳公布列數4. |
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5271.882 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].end |
5276.445 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].text |
通過捲印項宣讀案B暫行保留4. |
| transcript.whisperx[195].start |
5276.445 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].end |
5281.509 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].text |
特別收入基金請宣讀促進轉型正義基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].start |
5282.105 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].end |
5283.466 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].text |
暫行保留我們進入以經濟部主管一 作業基金請宣讀經濟作業基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[197].end |
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一 經濟部主管一 作業基金經濟作業基金一 業務計劃一 依據業務收支轉投資固定資產建設改良補充及資金運用等項就審查結果修正調整二 業務收支一 業務總收入改列為871,066萬3千元二 業務總支出照列三 本期下雨改列為10億6,533萬2千元三 結繳光顧金額照列四 轉投資計劃無列數五 固定資產建設改良補充照列 |
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| transcript.whisperx[198].end |
5337.714 |
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暫行保留作業基金請宣讀水資源作業基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[199].end |
5352.508 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].text |
2.作业基金水资源作业基金1. |
| transcript.whisperx[200].start |
5352.508 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].end |
5353.488 |
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业务计划1. |
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5353.488 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].end |
5359.632 |
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依据业务收支转投资固定资产建设改良扩充其资金用等向之审查结果手动调整2. |
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| transcript.whisperx[202].end |
5360.693 |
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业务收支1. |
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5360.693 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].end |
5364.875 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].text |
业务总收入改例为95亿9854万千元2. |
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| transcript.whisperx[204].end |
5366.536 |
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业务总支出照列3. |
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5366.536 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].end |
5370.919 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].text |
本期短促改例为18亿3341万8千元3. |
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| transcript.whisperx[206].end |
5372.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].text |
结奖公布金额4. |
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5372.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].end |
5374.041 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].text |
转投资计划均无联数5. |
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5374.041 |
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5375.402 |
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固定资产建设改良扩充 |
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5375.842 |
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5403.593 |
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六 國庫增撥基金額均上列七 通過決議二十二項宣讀完畢暫請保留特別收入基金請宣讀經濟特別收入基金三 特別收入基金經濟特別收入基金一 業務計畫一 依據基金來源用途審查結果收到調整二 基金來源用途及餘處一 基金來源二 基金用途三 本期剩餘均上列三 結繳公募五列數四 通過決議四十一項宣讀完畢 |
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5412.304 |
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暫行保留四 特別收入基金請宣讀核能發電後端營運基金 |
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5413.247 |
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5421.272 |
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4.特别收入基金和能发电后端营运基金因业务进化因预计基金来源运动审查结果所有调整2. |
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5424.534 |
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基金来源运动进一处因基金来源照列2. |
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5424.534 |
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5428.536 |
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基金用途改例为719亿8264万9千元3. |
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5428.536 |
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5434.159 |
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本期项余改例为343亿9920万8千元3. |
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5434.159 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].end |
5437.161 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].text |
减小工库五列数4. |
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5437.161 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].end |
5438.342 |
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通过决议8项 |
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5440.185 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].end |
5446.198 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].text |
暫時保留進入秉農業部主管一作業基金請宣讀農業作業基金 |
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5449.536 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].end |
5475.691 |
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並農業部主管依作業基金 農業作業基金依業務計劃依依據業務收支轉投資固定資產介紹改良擴充及資金運用等相關選查及補償的調整二 業務收支依業務總收入二 業務總支出三本企團出軍照列三 結繳公共金額四 轉投資計劃均無劣數五 固定資產介紹改良擴充照列六 國庫增波基金額無劣數七 補辦預算照列八 通過決議二十項宣讀完畢 |
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5482.344 |
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暫行保留二作業基金請宣讀農田水利事業作業基金 |
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5484.045 |
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5512.859 |
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二 作业基金农田水利事业作业基金一 业务计划一 据业务收支转投资固定资产建设改良扩充及资金运用等项目的审查结果随同调整二 业务收支一 业务总收入二 业务总支出三 本期短处均照列三 减小购物金额四 转投资计划均无列数五 固定资产建设改良扩充六 国库增拨基金额均照列七 补办预算均照列八 通过决议十二项 |
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5514.581 |
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5521.03 |
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暫行保留三特別收入基金請宣讀農業特別收入基金 |
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5522.765 |
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5551.69 |
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三 特別收入基金 農業特別收入基金一 業務計畫一 依據基金來源用途審查結果設定調整二 基金來源用途及餘處一 基金來源二 基金用途三 被其短處均照列三 結繳公共物業數四 通過決議36項宣讀完畢暫行保留報告委員會我們進入町公平交易委員會主管特別收入基金請宣讀反托拉斯基金 |
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5552.455 |
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5555.177 |
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暫行保留報告院會我們進入財政委員會甲財政部主管債務基金請宣讀中央政府債務基金 |
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5581.914 |
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5582.234 |
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暫行保留 |
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5610.396 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].end |
5619.949 |
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以金融監督管理委員會主管特別收入基金請宣讀金融監督管理基金 |
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5620.714 |
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5649.537 |
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以金融監督管理委會主管以特別收入基金金融監督管理基金以業務計畫依依據基金來源與用途審查結果所有調整二 基金來源用途及輿處依基金來源改例為39億7,921萬9千元二 基金用途改例為28億8,453萬8千元三 本期剩餘改例為10億9,468萬1千元三 減價工庫四 補辦預算均長列五 通過局域傾向宣讀完畢 |
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| transcript.whisperx[227].end |
5664.683 |
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暫行保留報告委員會我們進入教育及文化委員會甲總統府主管特別收入基金請宣讀中央研究院科學研究基金 |
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5665.578 |
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5686.687 |
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教育及文化委員會甲總統府主管一特別收入基金中央研究院科學研究基金一業務計劃一依據基金來源與用途審查結果修正調整二基金來源用途及輿促一基金來源改例為43億2770萬3千元二基金用途照列三本錢剩餘改例為284萬元三結繳公募鏈數四補辦業者照列八通過決議八項宣讀完畢 |
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5693.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].end |
5704.75 |
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暫行保留我們進入以行政院主管特別收入基金請宣讀行政院國家科學技術發展基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].start |
5706.277 |
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5731.543 |
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一行政院主管一特別收入基金行政院國家科學技術發展基金一業務計劃一依據基金來源與用途審查結果修正調整二基金來源用途給予處一基金來源改例為495億2388萬元二基金用途暢列三本期剩餘改例為1000萬元三結構工庫四固定資產這些改良擴充均無劣數五通過決議實項宣讀完畢 |
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5733.724 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].end |
5743.961 |
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暫行保留報告院會我們進入秉教育部主管作一作業基金請宣讀國立台灣大學校務基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].start |
5745.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].end |
5771.935 |
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並教育部主管一作業基金國立臺灣大學商務基金一業務計劃因依據業務收支轉投資固定資產建設改良擴充及資金用等向著審查結果速度調整二業務收支一業務總收入二業務總支出三本期短處均照列三結繳公庫金額四轉投資計劃均有列數五固定資產建設改良擴充六國庫增破基金額均照列七通過決議二項宣讀完畢 |
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5772.963 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].end |
5774.968 |
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請宣讀國立政治大學校務基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].start |
5780.178 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].end |
5782.759 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].text |
2.作业基金国立政治大学项目基金1. |
| transcript.whisperx[235].start |
5782.759 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].end |
5783.819 |
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业务计划1. |
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5783.819 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].end |
5789.722 |
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依据业务收支转投资固定资产建设改良扩充及资金运用等下均审查结果随同调整2. |
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5789.722 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].end |
5790.882 |
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业务收支1. |
| transcript.whisperx[238].start |
5790.882 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].end |
5791.842 |
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业务总收入2. |
| transcript.whisperx[239].start |
5791.842 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].end |
5792.743 |
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业务总支出3. |
| transcript.whisperx[240].start |
5792.743 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].end |
5794.523 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].text |
本集团处均照列3. |
| transcript.whisperx[241].start |
5794.523 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].end |
5795.544 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].text |
结交公共金额4. |
| transcript.whisperx[242].start |
5795.544 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].end |
5797.504 |
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转投资计划均无列数5. |
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5797.504 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].end |
5799.225 |
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固定资产建设改良扩充6. |
| transcript.whisperx[244].start |
5799.225 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].end |
5800.946 |
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国库增拨基金额7. |
| transcript.whisperx[245].start |
5800.946 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].end |
5802.966 |
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补办运算均照列8. |
| transcript.whisperx[246].start |
5802.966 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].end |
5804.167 |
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通过决议二项 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].start |
5804.968 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].end |
5806.492 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].text |
暫時保留請宣讀國立清華大學校務基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].start |
5811.866 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].end |
5837.148 |
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三 國立清華大學商務基金一 業務計畫 因應業務收支轉投資固定資產介紹改良擴充及資金用等相追審查結果速度調整二 業務收支一 業務總收入二 業務總支出三本集團出軍照列三 減少公共金額四 轉投資計畫軍武列數五 固定資產介紹改良擴充六 國庫增波基金額七 補辦預算軍照列八 通過決議二項宣讀完畢 |
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5837.788 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].end |
5842.238 |
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暫行保留請宣讀國立中興大學校務基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].start |
5844.294 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].end |
5846.596 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].text |
再行保留 請宣讀國立成功大學校務基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].start |
5872.967 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].end |
5898.892 |
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五 作业基金国内成功大学项目基金一 业务计划因依据业务收支转投资固定资产建设改良扩充其资金运用等向之审查及过随同调整二 业务收支一 业务总收入二 业务总支出三本集团出军策略三 结缴公务金额四 转投资计划均无劣数五 固定资产建设改良扩充六 国库增拨基金额七 补备准军策略八 通过决议一项宣读完毕 |
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5899.754 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].end |
5928.376 |
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暫行保留請宣讀國立中央大學校務基金六 作業基金國立中央大學校務基金一 業務計劃一 依據業務收支轉投資固定資產建設改良或收集資金運用等相關諮詢查及或隨從調整二 業務收支一 業務總收入二 業務總支出三本集短處均帳列三 結繳光顧金額四 轉投資計劃均五列數五 固定資產建設改良或收六國庫增波基金額均帳列其通過決議項宣讀完畢 |
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5929.529 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].end |
5934.372 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].text |
暫且保留請宣讀國立中山大學校務基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].start |
5960.833 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].end |
5965.225 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].text |
暫行保留 請宣讀國立中正大學校務基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].start |
5965.882 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].end |
5968.243 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].text |
暫時保留 請宣讀國立台灣海洋大學校務基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].start |
5995.516 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].end |
5998.617 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].text |
9.作业基金国立台湾海洋大学项目基金1. |
| transcript.whisperx[257].start |
5998.617 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].end |
5999.797 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].text |
业务计划1. |
| transcript.whisperx[258].start |
5999.797 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].end |
6006.099 |
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均业务收支转投资固定资产建设改良扩充及资金运用等项制审查结果收工调整2. |
| transcript.whisperx[259].start |
6006.099 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].end |
6007.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].text |
业务收支1. |
| transcript.whisperx[260].start |
6007.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].end |
6008.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].text |
业务总收入2. |
| transcript.whisperx[261].start |
6008.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].end |
6009.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].text |
业务总支出3. |
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6009.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].end |
6011.141 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].text |
本期短处均涨列3. |
| transcript.whisperx[263].start |
6011.141 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].end |
6012.301 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].text |
结交光顾金额4. |
| transcript.whisperx[264].start |
6012.301 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].end |
6014.462 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].text |
转投资计划均无列数5. |
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6014.462 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].end |
6016.623 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].text |
固定资产建设改良扩充6. |
| transcript.whisperx[266].start |
6016.623 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].end |
6018.883 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].text |
国库增拨基金额均涨列7. |
| transcript.whisperx[267].start |
6018.883 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].end |
6020.644 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].text |
通过权宜二项宣读完毕 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].start |
6021.481 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].end |
6043.617 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].text |
暫時保留 請宣讀國立東華大學校務基金10 租業基金 國立東華大學校務基金1 業務計劃1 依據業務收支轉投資固定資產建設改良擴充及資金運用等項目的選查結果 順利調整2 業務收支1 業務總收入2 業務總支出3本期短處捐獎列3 減少公共金額4 轉投資計劃捐贖列數5 固定資產建設改良擴充6 國庫增撥基金額7 補配選捐獎列8 通過決議項 宣讀完畢 |
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6050.795 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].end |
6056.577 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].text |
暫行保留請宣讀國立濟南大學校務基金11. |
| transcript.whisperx[270].start |
6056.577 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].end |
6059.498 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].text |
作業基金國立濟南國際大學校務基金1.業務計畫1. |
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6059.498 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].end |
6066.561 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].text |
依據業務收支轉投資固定資產券設改良擴充及資金運用等項目轉查及過程的調整2. |
| transcript.whisperx[272].start |
6066.561 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].end |
6067.861 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].text |
業務收支1. |
| transcript.whisperx[273].start |
6067.861 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].end |
6068.662 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].text |
業務總收入2. |
| transcript.whisperx[274].start |
6068.662 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].end |
6069.302 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].text |
業務總支出3. |
| transcript.whisperx[275].start |
6069.302 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].end |
6071.003 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].text |
企短出軍長的列3. |
| transcript.whisperx[276].start |
6071.003 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].end |
6072.123 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].text |
減少公共金額4. |
| transcript.whisperx[277].start |
6072.123 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].end |
6073.764 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].text |
轉投資計畫軍武列數5. |
| transcript.whisperx[278].start |
6073.764 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].end |
6076.024 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].text |
固定資產券設改良擴充6. |
| transcript.whisperx[279].start |
6076.024 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].end |
6076.625 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].text |
國庫增撥基金額7. |
| transcript.whisperx[280].start |
6076.625 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].end |
6076.825 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].text |
補備軍長的列8. |
| transcript.whisperx[281].start |
6076.825 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].end |
6077.065 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].text |
通過權營銷宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].start |
6080.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].end |
6084.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].text |
暫行保留 請宣讀國立台北大學校務基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].start |
6085.283 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].end |
6087.565 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].text |
暂行保留请宣读国立嘉义大学校务基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].start |
6112.303 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].end |
6115.006 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].text |
13.作业基金鼓励江亿大学项目基金1. |
| transcript.whisperx[285].start |
6115.006 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].end |
6115.947 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].text |
业务计划1. |
| transcript.whisperx[286].start |
6115.947 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].end |
6122.313 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].text |
依据业务收支转投资固定资产建设改良扩充及资金运用等项目选查结果手段调整2. |
| transcript.whisperx[287].start |
6122.313 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].end |
6123.414 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].text |
业务收支1. |
| transcript.whisperx[288].start |
6123.414 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].end |
6124.395 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].text |
业务总收入2. |
| transcript.whisperx[289].start |
6124.395 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].end |
6127.017 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].text |
业务总支出3本集团出军策略3. |
| transcript.whisperx[290].start |
6127.017 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].end |
6128.178 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].text |
减小公布金额4. |
| transcript.whisperx[291].start |
6128.178 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].end |
6130.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].text |
转投资计划均无劣数5. |
| transcript.whisperx[292].start |
6130.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].end |
6132.422 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].text |
固定资产建设改良扩充6. |
| transcript.whisperx[293].start |
6132.422 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].end |
6134.124 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].text |
国库增拨基金额7. |
| transcript.whisperx[294].start |
6134.124 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].end |
6135.865 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].text |
股份预算军策略8. |
| transcript.whisperx[295].start |
6135.865 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].end |
6137.607 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].text |
通过决议影像宣读完毕 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].start |
6139.018 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].end |
6142.267 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].text |
暫行保留 請宣讀國立高雄大學校務基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].start |
6143.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].end |
6145.301 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].text |
暫行保留 請宣讀國立台東大學校務基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].start |
6172.754 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].end |
6175.116 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].text |
暫行保留請宣讀國立宜蘭大學校務基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].start |
6201.007 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].end |
6201.828 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].text |
暫行保留請宣讀國立聯合大學校務基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].start |
6228.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].end |
6230.871 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].text |
暫行保留請宣讀國立台南大學校務基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].start |
6257.614 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].end |
6259.834 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].text |
暫行保留 請宣讀國立金門大學校務基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].start |
6285.563 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].end |
6287.965 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].text |
再行保留請宣讀國立屏東大學校務基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].start |
6313.018 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].end |
6315.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].text |
暫停保留請宣讀國立陽明交通大學校務基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].start |
6340.299 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].end |
6341.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].text |
暫行保留請宣讀國立臺灣師範大學校務基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].start |
6370.702 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].end |
6394.965 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].text |
22 作业基金国立台湾师范大学项目基金1 业务计划1 应聚业务收支转投资固定资产建设改良扩充及资金量等向之审查结果修正调整2 业务收支1 业务总收入2 业务总支出300期短处均涨列3 结价公布金额4 转投资计划组列数5 固定资产建设改良扩充6 国库增拨基金额均涨列7 通过决影向决赌完毕 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].start |
6395.465 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].end |
6400.351 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].text |
暫行保留請宣讀國立彰化師範大學校務基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].start |
6402.093 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].end |
6404.014 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].text |
暫行保留請宣讀國立高雄師範大學校務基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].start |
6430.237 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].end |
6432.978 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].text |
暫行保留請宣讀國立台北師範教育大學校務基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].start |
6459.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].end |
6462.983 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].text |
25.作业基金国立台北教育大学项目基金1. |
| transcript.whisperx[310].start |
6462.983 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].end |
6463.904 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].text |
业务计划1. |
| transcript.whisperx[311].start |
6463.904 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].end |
6469.869 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].text |
依据业务收支选投资固定资产建设改良扩充其资金要等向之审查结果速度调整2. |
| transcript.whisperx[312].start |
6469.869 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].end |
6471.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].text |
业务收支1. |
| transcript.whisperx[313].start |
6471.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].end |
6471.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].text |
业务总收入2. |
| transcript.whisperx[314].start |
6471.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].end |
6474.512 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].text |
业务总支出3本集团出清照例3. |
| transcript.whisperx[315].start |
6474.512 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].end |
6475.733 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].text |
结价光顾金额4. |
| transcript.whisperx[316].start |
6475.733 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].end |
6477.395 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].text |
投资计划组列数5. |
| transcript.whisperx[317].start |
6477.395 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].end |
6479.036 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].text |
固定资产建设改良扩充6. |
| transcript.whisperx[318].start |
6479.036 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].end |
6480.617 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].text |
国库增拨基金额7. |
| transcript.whisperx[319].start |
6480.617 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].end |
6481.999 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].text |
股份损均照例8. |
| transcript.whisperx[320].start |
6481.999 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].end |
6483.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].text |
通过准影像宣读完毕 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].start |
6483.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].end |
6490.208 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].text |
暫行保留 請宣讀國立台中教育大學教務基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].start |
6490.939 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].end |
6493.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].text |
暫行保留請宣讀國立台北藝術大學校務基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].start |
6518.393 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].end |
6519.294 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].text |
暫時保留 請宣讀國立台灣藝術大學校務基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].start |
6544.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].end |
6546.081 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].text |
暫行保留請宣讀國立台南藝術大學 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].start |
6573.311 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].end |
6574.738 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].text |
学校校务基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].start |
6575.503 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].end |
6576.524 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].text |
暫行保留 請宣讀國立空中大學校務基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].start |
6604.276 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].end |
6606.297 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].text |
暫行保留請宣讀國立臺灣科技大學校務基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].start |
6630.615 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].end |
6633.137 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].text |
再行保留请宣读台北科技大学校务基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].start |
6658.826 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].end |
6661.568 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].text |
再行保留請宣讀國立雲林科技大學校務基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].start |
6687.487 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].end |
6690.229 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].text |
暫行保留請宣讀國立湖北科技大學校務基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].start |
6714.532 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].end |
6717.213 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].text |
暫行保留請宣讀國立屏東科技大學校務基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].start |
6741.508 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].end |
6744.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].text |
再行保留請宣讀國立澎湖科技大學校務基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].start |
6768.559 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].end |
6771.101 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].text |
暫行保留請宣讀國立勤益科技大學校務基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].start |
6797.798 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].end |
6800.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].text |
暫行保留 請宣讀國立臺北護理健康大學 校務基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].start |
6826.095 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].end |
6846.594 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].text |
三十八 作业基金国立台北护理健康大学现务基金一一业务计划一一业务收支转投资固定资产建设改良扩充及资金运用等项目的选查及过行动调整二一业务收支一一业务总收入二一业务总支出三本集团族群交列三 减少公共金额四 转投资计划均无劣数五 固定资产建设改良扩充六 国库 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].start |
6848.236 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].end |
6850.998 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].text |
暫行保留請宣讀國立高雄餐飲大學校務基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].start |
6858.395 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].end |
6861.018 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].text |
暫行保留 請宣讀台中科技大學校務基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].start |
6885.098 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].end |
6887.759 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].text |
暫行保留 請宣讀台北商業大學 校務基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].start |
6912.709 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].end |
6915.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].text |
暫行保留請宣讀高雄科技大學校務基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].start |
6940.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].end |
6941.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].text |
暫行保留請宣讀國立體育大學校務基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].start |
6969.127 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].end |
6992.916 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].text |
四十三 作業基金 國立體育大學社務基金一 業務計畫 依據業務收支轉投資固定資產建設改良擴充及資金運用等項追審查 結果隨同調整二 業務收支 一 業務總收入二 業務總支出 三本集團出軍項列三 結交公務金額 四 轉投資進化軍務列數五 固定資產建設改良擴充六 國庫增撥 其金額 其股份選軍項列宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].start |
6993.898 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].end |
6999.533 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].text |
暫行保留請宣讀台灣體育運動大學校務基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].start |
7001.257 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].end |
7004.779 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].text |
44.作業基金 國立台灣體育運動大學校務基金1.業務計畫1. |
| transcript.whisperx[344].start |
7004.779 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].end |
7012.082 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].text |
依據業務收支轉投資固定資產介紹感染擴充及資金用等相關審查結果所用調整2. |
| transcript.whisperx[345].start |
7012.082 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].end |
7013.422 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].text |
業務收支1. |
| transcript.whisperx[346].start |
7013.422 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].end |
7014.263 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].text |
業務總收入2. |
| transcript.whisperx[347].start |
7014.263 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].end |
7014.803 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].text |
業務總支出3. |
| transcript.whisperx[348].start |
7014.803 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].end |
7016.844 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].text |
本集團出軍照列3. |
| transcript.whisperx[349].start |
7016.844 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].end |
7017.864 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].text |
結繳公共金額4. |
| transcript.whisperx[350].start |
7017.864 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].end |
7019.685 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].text |
轉投資進化軍務列數5. |
| transcript.whisperx[351].start |
7019.685 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].end |
7021.806 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].text |
固定資產介紹感染擴充6. |
| transcript.whisperx[352].start |
7021.806 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].end |
7023.486 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].text |
國庫增波基金額7. |
| transcript.whisperx[353].start |
7023.486 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].end |
7024.827 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].text |
補備運算軍照列宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].start |
7025.468 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].end |
7031.567 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].text |
暫行保留 請宣讀台南護理專科學校 校務基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].start |
7032.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].end |
7058.147 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].text |
四十五 作业基金国立台湾信学学院项目基金一 业务计划一 依据业务收支转投资固定资产阶下改良扩充及资金用等项制审查结果修正调整二 业务收支一 业务总收入二 一 业务总支出三 本级短处均涨列三 结价公共金额四 转投资计划均无劣数五 固定资产阶下改良扩充六 国库增拨基金额均涨列七 通过决议影响宣传完毕 |
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7058.803 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].end |
7068.206 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].text |
更正45 台灣戲曲學校校務基金暫行保留請宣讀台南護理專科學校校務基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].start |
7069.566 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].end |
7074.129 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].text |
46.作業基金鼓勵台南護理專科學校社務基金1.業務計劃1. |
| transcript.whisperx[358].start |
7074.129 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].end |
7080.552 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].text |
依據業務收支轉投資固定資產建設改良擴充及資金運用等箱子轉查結果速度調整2. |
| transcript.whisperx[359].start |
7080.552 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].end |
7082.032 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].text |
業務收支1. |
| transcript.whisperx[360].start |
7082.032 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].end |
7082.893 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].text |
業務總收入2. |
| transcript.whisperx[361].start |
7082.893 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].end |
7083.513 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].text |
業務總支出3. |
| transcript.whisperx[362].start |
7083.513 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].end |
7085.554 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].text |
本期短數勸照列4. |
| transcript.whisperx[363].start |
7085.554 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].end |
7086.774 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].text |
剪繳公共金額4. |
| transcript.whisperx[364].start |
7086.774 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].end |
7088.615 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].text |
轉投資計劃均無劣數5. |
| transcript.whisperx[365].start |
7088.615 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].end |
7090.716 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].text |
固定資產建設改良擴充6. |
| transcript.whisperx[366].start |
7090.716 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].end |
7091.897 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].text |
國庫增撥基金額7. |
| transcript.whisperx[367].start |
7091.897 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].end |
7093.758 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].text |
企業股份演算勸照列宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].start |
7094.559 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].end |
7098.854 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].text |
暫行保留 請宣讀台東專科學校 校務基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].start |
7100.922 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].end |
7103.964 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].text |
47.作業基金 鼓勵台東專科學校商務基金1.業務計劃1. |
| transcript.whisperx[370].start |
7103.964 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].end |
7111.769 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].text |
依據業務收支轉投資固定資產建設改良擴充及資金運用等相關審查機構促動調整2. |
| transcript.whisperx[371].start |
7111.769 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].end |
7113.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].text |
業務收支1. |
| transcript.whisperx[372].start |
7113.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].end |
7114.031 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].text |
業務總收入2. |
| transcript.whisperx[373].start |
7114.031 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].end |
7114.571 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].text |
業務總支出3. |
| transcript.whisperx[374].start |
7114.571 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].end |
7116.512 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].text |
本期短處軍照列3. |
| transcript.whisperx[375].start |
7116.512 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].end |
7117.733 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].text |
結交公共金額4. |
| transcript.whisperx[376].start |
7117.733 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].end |
7119.554 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].text |
轉投資計劃軍務列數5. |
| transcript.whisperx[377].start |
7119.554 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].end |
7121.895 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].text |
固定資產建設改良擴充6. |
| transcript.whisperx[378].start |
7121.895 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].end |
7123.957 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].text |
國庫增波基金額軍照列宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].start |
7124.618 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].end |
7131.873 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].text |
暫且保留請宣讀國立臺灣大學輻射醫院作業基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].start |
7133.239 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].end |
7159.217 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].text |
48 作业基金国立台湾大学副社医院作业基金1 业务计划1 依据业务设置转投资固定资产阶线改良扩充及资金运用等项目审查结果随同调整2 业务收支1 业务总收入2 业务总支出3 本年善用均交列3 结交公库金额4 转投资计划均无联数5 固定资产阶线改良扩充6 国库占卜基金额7 补办预算均交列8 通过决议三项宣读完毕 |
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7161.594 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].end |
7167.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].text |
暫行保留請宣讀國立成功大學輻射醫院作業基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].start |
7169.467 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].end |
7172.909 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].text |
49.作业基金国立成功大学附设一元作业基金1. |
| transcript.whisperx[383].start |
7172.909 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].end |
7173.909 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].text |
业务计划1. |
| transcript.whisperx[384].start |
7173.909 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].end |
7180.152 |
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依据业务收支转投资固定资产建设改良扩充及资金运用等象征审查机构修正调整2. |
| transcript.whisperx[385].start |
7180.152 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].end |
7181.073 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].text |
业务收支1. |
| transcript.whisperx[386].start |
7181.073 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].end |
7181.893 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].text |
业务总收入2. |
| transcript.whisperx[387].start |
7181.893 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].end |
7182.974 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].text |
业务总支出3. |
| transcript.whisperx[388].start |
7182.974 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].end |
7184.714 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].text |
本级剩余均照列3. |
| transcript.whisperx[389].start |
7184.714 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].end |
7185.935 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].text |
节奖公布金额4. |
| transcript.whisperx[390].start |
7185.935 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].end |
7188.196 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].text |
转投资计划均无劣数5. |
| transcript.whisperx[391].start |
7188.196 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].end |
7190.037 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].text |
固定资产建设改良扩充6. |
| transcript.whisperx[392].start |
7190.037 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].end |
7192.458 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].text |
国库增拨基金额均照列7. |
| transcript.whisperx[393].start |
7192.458 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].end |
7194.319 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].text |
通过决议二项宣读完毕 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].start |
7194.819 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].end |
7202.094 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].text |
暫行保留請宣讀國立陽明交通大學富社醫院作業基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].start |
7202.927 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].end |
7203.847 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].text |
暫行保留請宣讀教育部所屬機構作業基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].start |
7233.271 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].end |
7257.843 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].text |
五十一 作业基金教育部所属机构作业基金一 业务计划依据业务收支转投资固定资产建设改良扩充及资金运用等项制审查结果所用调整二 业务收支一 业务总收入二 业务总支出三本集团出军照列三 结效控股金额四 转投资计划军务列数五 固定资产建设改良扩充六 国库增拨基金额七 补办算军照列八 通过决议二项宣读完毕 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].start |
7258.611 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].end |
7264.127 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].text |
暫行保留 請宣讀國立高級中等學校 校務基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].start |
7264.761 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].end |
7265.662 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].text |
暫行保留 請宣讀學產基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].start |
7293.287 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].end |
7294.368 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].text |
暫行保留 請宣讀運動發展基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].start |
7314.212 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].end |
7343.471 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].text |
五十四 特別收入基金運動發展基金一 業務計劃一 依據基金來源與用途審查結果手動調整二 基金來源用途給予處一 基金來源改例為七十億千千元五百萬元二 基金用途照列三 本期短處改例為十三億零七十九萬三千元三 結繳光顧列數四 通過決議五項宣讀完畢暫行保留請宣讀私立高級中等以上學校退場基金 |
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7345.066 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].end |
7362.612 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].text |
五十五 特别收入基金私立高级重等影像学校退场基金一 业务计划应据基金来源与用户审查期货所的调整二 基金来源用途及余处一 基金来源二 基金用途三 本期剩余均照列三 及缴工物列数四 通过决议二项宣读完毕 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].start |
7363.252 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].end |
7375.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].text |
暫行保留報告院會我們進入丁國家科學及技術委員會主管一作業基金請宣讀科學園區管理局作業基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].start |
7375.919 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].end |
7395.659 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].text |
顶国家科学及技术委员会主管一作业基金科学园区管理局作业基金一业务计划依据业务收支转投资固定资产建设改良工程及资金运用等项追审查经过手动调整二业务收支一业务总收入改为246亿4153万8千元二业务总收入照列 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].start |
7396.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].end |
7422.135 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].text |
3.本期剩餘改良費48億8,341萬5千元3.結繳公共金額4.轉通資金化均無劣數5.固定資產建設改良擴充6.國庫增波及金額均照列7.通過決議事項宣讀完畢暫行保留抱怨會我們進入五核能安全委員會主管特別收入基金請宣讀核子事故緊急應變基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].start |
7423.973 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].end |
7425.694 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].text |
再請保留 報告院會 我們進入文化部主管作業基金國立 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].start |
7450.527 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].end |
7466.913 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].text |
請宣讀國立文化機構作業基金請進入 文化部主管請宣讀國立文化機構作業基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].start |
7467.887 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].end |
7494.554 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].text |
几文化部主管一 作业基金国立文化机构作业基金一 业务计划一 依据业务收支转投资固定资产机设改良扩充及资金用等项制审查机构所更调整二 业务收支一 业务总收入二 业务总支出三 本期短处均照列三 结交公共金额四 转投资计划均无列数五 固定资产机设改良扩充六 国库增幅基金额均照列七 通过决议四项宣读完毕 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].start |
7495.305 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].end |
7522.879 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].text |
再行保留 請宣讀文化發展基金二 特別收入基金 文化發展基金一 業務計畫 因應基金來源與用途審查 結果受到調整二 業務收支 一 資金來源二 基金用途三 本期剩餘均長列三 結繳公庫列數四 通貨協議五項宣讀完畢再行保留 抱怨會我們進入跟國立故宮博物院主管作業基金 請宣讀故宮 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].start |
7524.096 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].end |
7526.482 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].text |
文物藝術發展基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].start |
7527.267 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].end |
7555.436 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].text |
跟國立故宮博物院主管一 作業基金故宮文物藝術發展基金一 業務計劃一 依據業務收支轉投資固定資產建設改良庫重啟資金運用等項目轉查 經過隨從調整二 業務收支一 業務總收入改例為四億七千七百六十二萬九千元二 業務總支出 照列三 本期剩餘改例為六千六百六十三萬元三 結繳公募金額 照列四 轉投資金換物列數五 固定資產建設改良庫重 照列 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].start |
7555.876 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].end |
7571.367 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].text |
六 國共撰播監禁而無列數 及通過決議六項宣讀完畢暫請保留報告委員會我們進入交通委員會甲交通部主管作業基金請宣讀交通作業基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].start |
7572.119 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].end |
7586.136 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].text |
交通委員會獎交通部主管因作業基金交通作業基金因業務計劃因依據業務收支轉投資固定資產建設改良或衝擊資金運用等項目的審查及過速通調整因業務收支因業務總收入改例為760億4936萬4千元 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].start |
7589.139 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].end |
7589.279 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].text |
暫時保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].start |
7615.543 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].end |
7620.943 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].text |
我們進入特別收入基金請宣讀航港建設基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].start |
7622.007 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].end |
7624.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].text |
2.特别收入基金航港健身基金1. |
| transcript.whisperx[416].start |
7624.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].end |
7625.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].text |
业务计划1. |
| transcript.whisperx[417].start |
7625.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].end |
7628.973 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].text |
依据基金来源与用途审查及我所的条件2. |
| transcript.whisperx[418].start |
7628.973 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].end |
7630.895 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].text |
基金来源用途解决处1. |
| transcript.whisperx[419].start |
7630.895 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].end |
7634.799 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].text |
基金来源改列为96亿3113万8千元2. |
| transcript.whisperx[420].start |
7634.799 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].end |
7638.902 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].text |
基金用途改列为107亿8828万9千元3. |
| transcript.whisperx[421].start |
7638.902 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].end |
7642.906 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].text |
本期短处改列为11亿5515万1千元3. |
| transcript.whisperx[422].start |
7642.906 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].end |
7643.967 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].text |
减强工库4. |
| transcript.whisperx[423].start |
7643.967 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].end |
7645.788 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].text |
补本预算均涨列5. |
| transcript.whisperx[424].start |
7645.788 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].end |
7647.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].text |
通过决议二十上宣读文件 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].start |
7648.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].end |
7660.127 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].text |
暫行保留進入以國家通訊傳播委員會主管特別收入基金請宣讀通訊傳播監督管理基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].start |
7660.768 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].end |
7681.702 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].text |
以国家通讯传播委会主管以特别收入基金通讯传播监督管理基金以业务计划第三至四页业务计划保留送运会处理让基金来源用途仅一处以基金来源二基金用途三等级短处均保留送运会处理三提案七十七案保留送运会处理宣读完毕 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].start |
7682.342 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].end |
7708.857 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].text |
暫行保留特別收入基金請宣讀有限廣播電視事業發展基金二 特別收入基金有限廣播電視事業發展基金一 業務進化第二 具三頁業務進化保留送業會處理二 基金來源用途請預處一 基金來源二 基金用途三 本錢剩餘均保留送業會處理三 提案二十四案保留送業會處理宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].start |
7709.958 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].end |
7723.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].text |
暫行保留抱怨會我們進入司法及法治委員會甲法務部主管作業基金請宣讀法務部矯正機關作業基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].start |
7724.375 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].end |
7752.731 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].text |
司法及法制委員會交法務部主管依依作業基金法務部矯正機關作業基金依依業務計劃依依據業務收支轉投資固定資產建設改良或衝擊資金用等價值審查機構所動調整任業務收支依依業務總收入依依業務總支出三本集團儲存策略三 結價光顧金額四 轉投資金劃出無劣數五 固定資產建設改良或衝造劣六 合共增破基金有無劣數七 提案延暗保留送業會處理宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].start |
7753.573 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].end |
7776.515 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].text |
暫行保留二 特別收入基金請宣讀毒品防治基金二 特別收入基金毒品防治基金依業務計畫依據基金的來源與用途審查及過程隨同調整二 基金的來源用途及輿處依基金的來源二 基金用途三 本期短處尋找列三 減少公共不列數二 四 通過決議二項宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].start |
7778.877 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].end |
7787.286 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].text |
暫行保留進入以考試院考選部主管作業基金請宣讀考選業務基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].start |
7789.127 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].end |
7789.407 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].text |
暫行保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].start |
7816.443 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].end |
7831.719 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].text |
報告議員會我們進入七信託基金部分各委員會審查結果內政委員會獎內政部主管一請宣讀黃瑞景先生獎學基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].start |
7832.489 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].end |
7834.59 |
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暫行保留請宣讀胡元周女士獎助學基金 |
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7852.386 |
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7879.793 |
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二 胡圓周女士獎助學基金依基金運用計畫依據收支與初步不等象徵審查結果促動調整任總收入三總支出四本集短出軍策略宣讀完畢暫行保留請宣讀在校學生獎學基金三 在校學生獎學基金依基金運用計畫依據收支與初步不等象徵審查結果促動調整任總收入三總支出四本集短出軍策略宣讀完畢 |
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7880.775 |
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7900.887 |
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暫行保留 請宣讀成員獎學基金四 成員獎學基金依基金運用計畫依據收支與出國補等項就審查結果收入調整二 總收入三 總支出四本期短處軍教列 宣讀完畢暫行保留 請宣讀劉竹森先生警察子女獎學基金 |
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7901.462 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].end |
7904.304 |
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暫行保留抱怨會我們進入經濟委員會甲農業部主管請宣讀農民退休基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].start |
7924.723 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].end |
7948.469 |
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經濟委員會 甲農業部主管 依農民退休基金依基金運用計畫 依據收支與數目不等價值審查結果所能調整若總收入3 總支出4本期剩餘全場列 5通過決議5項宣讀完畢暫行保留報告委員會我們進入財政委員會 甲金融監督管理委員會主管請宣讀保險業務發展基金 |
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7950.522 |
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7979.001 |
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財政委員會 甲金融監督管理委會主管一 保險義務發展基金一 基金運用計畫一 依據收支與出國不等相關搜查及過稅項調整二 總收入三 總支出三倍集團出軍照例五 通過決議二項宣讀完畢暫行保留 抱怨會我們進入司法及法治委員會甲人事行政總署主管請宣讀中央公教人員急難救助基金 |
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7979.948 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].end |
7984.873 |
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暫停保留我們進入以考試院全序部主管請宣讀公務人員退休撫恤基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].start |
8003.103 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].end |
8026.788 |
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依考試院詮釋部主管依公務人員退休撫恤基金依基金運用計畫依預計收支與出撥不等項的審查結果所用條件二 總收入三 總支出資本及剩餘均照列五 通過決議二項 宣讀完畢案行保留 請宣讀公教人員個人專戶制退府儲金 退府儲金基金 |
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8027.557 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].end |
8045.647 |
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二 公教委員個人專務制退伏雛金基金一 基金運用計畫 應據說這與初步不等相遵審查及過修正調整二 總收入三 總支出四本期剩餘均照列宣讀完畢暫行保留會會我們現在繼續進行 |
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8050.192 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].end |
8075.265 |
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6.非營業部分各委員會審查結果外交及國防委員會 甲國防部主管請宣讀國軍生產及服裝作業基金外交及國防委員會 甲國防部主管以作業基金國軍生產及服務作業基金 以業務計畫依據業務收支準投資 固定資產建設改良共創及資金運用等項就審查及國會所動調整 |
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8077.188 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].end |
8078.308 |
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2.业务收支1. |
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8078.308 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].end |
8082.81 |
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业务总收入改令为414亿2426万3000元2. |
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8082.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].end |
8087.571 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].text |
业务总支出改令为399亿8884万9000元3. |
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8087.571 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].end |
8092.013 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].text |
本钱剩余改令为14亿3541万4000元3. |
| transcript.whisperx[448].start |
8092.013 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].end |
8094.013 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].text |
减价公共金额涨劣4. |
| transcript.whisperx[449].start |
8094.013 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].end |
8095.734 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].text |
转投资进化无劣数5. |
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8095.734 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].end |
8098.075 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].text |
规定资产建设感染扩充涨劣6. |
| transcript.whisperx[451].start |
8098.075 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].end |
8100.175 |
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国库增拨基金额无劣数7. |
| transcript.whisperx[452].start |
8100.175 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].end |
8102.216 |
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通过决议35项宣读完毕 |
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8103.454 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].end |
8108.329 |
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暫時請保留請宣讀國軍老舊眷村改建基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].start |
8109.276 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].end |
8112.098 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].text |
2.作业基金国均老旧捐赠改建基金1. |
| transcript.whisperx[455].start |
8112.098 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].end |
8113.459 |
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业务计划1. |
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8113.459 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].end |
8119.042 |
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业务收支转投资固定资产支持改良扩充及资金用等项者审查经过所动调整2. |
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8119.042 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].end |
8120.243 |
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业务收支1. |
| transcript.whisperx[458].start |
8120.243 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].end |
8121.824 |
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业务总收入照列2. |
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8121.824 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].end |
8125.666 |
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业务总支出改例为4亿6,649万4千元3. |
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8125.666 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].end |
8129.328 |
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本期剩余改例为1亿7,322万8千元3. |
| transcript.whisperx[461].start |
8129.328 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].end |
8130.489 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].text |
减小公库金额4. |
| transcript.whisperx[462].start |
8130.489 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].end |
8132.13 |
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转投资计划5. |
| transcript.whisperx[463].start |
8132.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].end |
8134.071 |
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固定资产支持改良扩充6. |
| transcript.whisperx[464].start |
8134.071 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].end |
8138.134 |
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国库增拨基金额均无列数其通过决议时一项宣布完� |
| transcript.whisperx[465].start |
8139.378 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].end |
8144.881 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].text |
暫行保留請宣讀國防醫學院軍事教育基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].start |
8169.191 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].end |
8191.281 |
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四 固定資產建設改良擴充五 國庫撐撥基金的軍銷列六 通過決議事項宣讀完畢暫請保留請宣讀第四 資本計畫基金請宣讀國軍銀社及設施改建基金 |
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8192.142 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].end |
8192.602 |
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暫行保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].start |
8218.991 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].end |
8242.792 |
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抱怨会我们进入以国军退出于官兵辅导委员会主管作业基金请宣读国军退出于官兵安置基金以国军退出于官兵辅导委员会主管以作业基金国军退出于官兵安置基金以业务计划以业务收支转投资固定资产支持来临扩充及资金运用等项目的审查及过修正调整而业务收支 |
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8243.232 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].end |
8244.393 |
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暫行保留二 作業基金請宣讀榮民醫療作業基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].start |
8270.765 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].end |
8298.14 |
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二 作业基金与荣民医疗作业基金一 义务计划依据义务收支选投资固定资产介绍感染过程及资金用等向之审查及或修正调整二 义务收支依义务总收入二 义务总支出三百几剩余均照列三 结缴公布金额无列数四 固定资产介绍感染扩充改例为五十万一四千二百四十万四千元五 国库增拨基金额无列数六 通过决议二十四项宣读完毕 |
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8298.946 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].end |
8312.672 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].text |
暫行保留抱怨會我們進入社會福利及衛生環境委員會甲勞動部主管作業基金請宣讀勞工保險局作業基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].start |
8313.399 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].end |
8330.278 |
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社會福利經貿商環境委員會獎勞動部主管一 作業基金勞工保險局作業基金一 業務計劃一 依據業務收支轉投資固定資產政策改良擴充及資金運用等項目轉查結果修正調整二 業務收支一 業務總收入降劣二 業務總支出 |
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8330.959 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].end |
8358.393 |
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原列7435亿7382千元减列业务成本与费用上下其他业务成本中杂项业务成本之灾保及保护服务费用媒体侦测及业务宣导费50万元配合上阶减列数随同调整增列业务成本与费用上下保险成本中提存执政准备之灾保及保护50万元以上增减户底后5增减数其余均炒劣3本期参与炒劣3减减有关乎金额4转投资计划5固定资产政策 |
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8359.073 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].end |
8361.377 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].text |
再行保留請宣讀就業安定基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].start |
8368.717 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].end |
8368.937 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].text |
暫行保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].start |
8395.885 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].end |
8402.882 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].text |
我們進入以衛生福利部主管作業基金請宣讀醫療藥品基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].start |
8405.171 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].end |
8428.677 |
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以 衛生福利補助 因 作業 基金 醫療 藥品 基金 因 業務計畫 因 業務收支轉投資 固定資產 建設 改良 或 收集 資金用等 象徵 轉查 計畫 收購 調整 因 業務收支 因 業務總收入 業務總支出 三 本金 生育 捐賬率 三 減繳 公共金額 四 轉投資計畫 均五列數 五 固定資產 建設 改良 或 收入 六 國庫 自撥 基金額 捐賬率 其通過決議六項 宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].start |
8430.148 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].end |
8436.759 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].text |
暫行保留請宣讀管制藥品製藥工廠作業基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].start |
8437.421 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].end |
8466.432 |
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二 作业基金管制有品质要工厂作业基金一 业务计划一 依据业务收支转投资规定资产建设改良扩充及资金运用等项制审查结果税务调整二 业务收支一 业务总收入涨列二 业务总支出改例为七亿二千零七十三万九千元三 本钱限于改例为二亿五千二百一十一万九千元三 结缴房屋金额涨列四 转投资计划无列数五 规定资产建设改良扩充涨列六 国库增拨基金也无列数 |
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8470.078 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].end |
8474.665 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].text |
暫行保留請宣讀全民健康保險基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].start |
8475.767 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].end |
8477.367 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].text |
暫行保留請宣讀國民年金保險基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].start |
8505.521 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].end |
8517.852 |
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四 租业基金国民年金保险基金一业务计划一 依据业务收支转投资固定资产建设改良供收及资金运用等项目损杀机构所要调整二 业务收支一 业务总收入改例为1317亿7444万5000元 |
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8520.914 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].end |
8524.217 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].text |
暫行保留我們進入特別收入基金請宣讀衛生福利特別收入基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].start |
8546.525 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].end |
8573.622 |
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五 特别收入基金卫生福利特别收入基金因应电雾计划因依据基金的来源与用途审查结果随分调整然而基金的来源用途仅余处因基金的来源改令为990亿1578万千元然而基金用途改令为1152亿3954万千元三 本期短促改令为162亿2375万9千元三 减小公估链数四 通过决议65项宣读完毕 |
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8574.636 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].end |
8583.572 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].text |
暫行保留委員會我們進入秉環境部主管特別收入基金請宣讀環境保護基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].start |
8584.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].end |
8608.104 |
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并环境部主管一特别收入基金环境保护基金一业务计划应依据基金的来源与用途上查其过所当调整二 基金的来源用途及余处一 基金的来源照列二 基金用途改定为83亿9227万2千元三 本期剩余改定为8亿6975万3千元三 结缴公募链数四 通过决议30人上宣读完毕 |
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8609.214 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].end |
8632.083 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].text |
暫行保留報言會我們進入七信託基金部分各委員會審查結果外交及國防委員會甲僑務委員會主管一 裝守跟公益基金暫行保留請宣讀裝守跟公益基金 |
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8633.373 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].end |
8650.725 |
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外交及國防委員會甲僑委員會主管一 裝守跟公益基金一 基金運用計畫一 據收支與出撥不等向之審查結果修讀條件二 總收入三 總進出四本其剩餘均照列五 通過決議以上 宣讀完畢 |
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8652.423 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].end |
8663.264 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].text |
暫行保留請宣讀受理捐贈僑生獎助學金及監困地區僑民學校私資補助基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].start |
8664.673 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].end |
8681.949 |
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二 受理捐赠强生奖助学金及金款离去强民学校师资辅助基金一 基金运用计划依据收支与数目等项目审查结果所有调整二 总收入三 总支出四 本节胜与均涨率五 通过决议三项宣读完毕 |
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8682.999 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].end |
8709.957 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].text |
暫行保留抱怨會我們進入社會福利及衛生環境委員會假勞動部主管勞工退休基金救治請宣讀社會福利及衛生環境委員會假勞動部主管以勞工退休基金救治以基金運用計畫依據收支與住戶等相關審查及獲修更調整二總輸入三總支出四本潛身語訊策略五通過權營銷宣讀完畢 |
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8712.314 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].end |
8735.226 |
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暫行保留 二 勞工退休基金新制 請宣讀二 勞工退休基金新制 依基金運用計劃 依依據收支與住戶等項就審查及過修正調整二 總收支五三 總支出四本期剩餘均帳項列 宣讀完畢暫行保留 請宣讀 基欠 工資 電廠基金 |
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暫行保留以環境部主管資源回收管理基金請宣讀信託基金部分 |
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以環境部主管依資源回收管理基金信託基金部分依基金運用計畫依據收支與出撥不等相之審查結果所動調整二 總收入 三 總支出 四 本期生育訓教練宣讀完畢暫行保留二 清潔隊員執行職務死亡技術基金請宣讀 |
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暫行保留 |
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抱怨會本案各單位或基金別預算及決議均暫行保留現有民進黨團國民黨團分別提議建起本案請院長召集協商我們現在做以下決議十點十十一點十分請十一點十分 |
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我們現在做以下決議請院長召集協商協商後再行處理有關本日院會後續議程請11點10分各黨團幹部進入議場後主席辦公室我們進行溝通現在休息 |
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抱怨會我們現在繼續開會經過朝野協商溝通已經下午兩點三十分我們繼續開會進行後續討論事項現在休息 |
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MING PAO CANADA // MING PAO TORONTO |
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MING PAO CANADA MANGA |
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官員會我們繼續開會討論事項第20案核子反應器設施管制法第6條條文修正早案請宣讀審查報告本院教育及文化委員會於113年7月10日召開全英委員會議並按審查委員王洪偉等19人提案等5案會議中邀請河南安全委員會主任委員陳東陽及相關人員列席說明並備諮詢 |
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另一邀請提案委員說明提案要旨會議由柯召集委員之恩擔任主席事後於114年3月19日舉行核子反應器設施管制法部分條文修正草案修法公立會由柯召集委員儒君擔任主席將各界意見彙整為公聽會報告與審查本案時提供委員參考並於同月31日召開全體委員會議繼續併案審查本案 |
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会议中邀请核能安全委员会主任委员陈明珍及相关人员列席说明会议有格召集委员如均担任主席与会员于听取说明及讯答并与广泛讨论完毕后进行主导讨论完成本案审查本案审查完均并按理据审查报告提起约会公决约会讨论前需将有党团协商约会讨论时有格召集委员如均补充说明宣读完毕 |
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我們現在請葛如君召集委員補充說明 |
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目前核電非完美但對台灣有其必要也是國際的趨勢以及共識為了讓政府能夠擁有彈性調節能源的手段也為了讓民眾以及企業享有平價且穩定的電力核電扮演極其重要的關鍵角色 |
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然而在非核家園政策的影響之下我國謹慎核三廠的二號機尚在運作其餘的都已經進入停機除役的階段而這台謹慎的核能機組更將於在四天之後5月17號停機我國將完全喪失核能這項平價穩定低碳的供電方式 |
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有鑒於核能的各項優點世界各國不斷強化核能的比重不論是新建機組投資小型核電或是對現有機組進行研議都是趨勢大家最愛引用的國際能源署IEA1月16號的報告也說隨著投資增加新技術進步和政策的支持核能發展將加速全球近440座核反應堆的發電量 |
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有望在2025年達到新高《衛報》也報導越來越多的國家選擇核電廠來進行低碳轉型然而我國由於受到法規的限制不僅仍在運轉當中的核電廠需要在執照屆滿前5到15年前提出 |
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換照申請才能研議甚至完全沒有重啟相關的規範在AI半導體如日中天的發展下電力需求恐急每年國際預估需要年增3%到30%的電力穩定的需要增加然而我們的政府竟然每年關機減3% |
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一來一往台灣的能源韌性的差異將高達12%為此國民黨民眾黨共同提出核管法的再修正動議將原本運轉中機組需於執照屆滿前5到15年提出申請的規定改為執照屆滿前皆得提出申請以此讓即將於4天後停機的核三廠二號機擁有繼續運轉的可能 |
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但有賴執政黨對台灣經濟理性發展的決心信賴政府不應該只是口號而是要有作為修法通過以後對於已經停機的如核三廠一號機還有即將停機的二號機我們賦予行政機關有確認需再運轉的必要後 |
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經營者也就是台電能向主管機關也就是河安會申請換發照的空間而且明定需在主管機關確認無安全顧慮且同意換照的情況之下才能預轉等於不只要過三關還要關關過以安全第一為考量而對於換照的年限 |
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我們也參考美國、日本等國際大國相關的規定要求換發的運轉執照效期不得超過20年在確保核能安全的情況下接軌國際若經營者或主管機關只希望延長10年也是可以只延長10年這一次的修法 |
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並沒有要求政府一定要讓核電廠研議而是把規則打開讓政府能在能源議題上多一種選擇我們也特別感謝總統府國家氣候變遷委員會副召集人童子賢出席我們3月19號的核管法公聽會提出以核綠不偏廢一年可為台灣省下N個千億的說法 |
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中研院也提出數據說明現有核廢料存放至少還足夠4到5年也感謝國民黨黨團民眾黨黨團的支持並不斷呼籲失去核電我國電力將變貴變髒不只失去的是民眾的肺的健康還可能面臨如德國的經濟衰退的結果而如今德國也已在返回核電現在美國AIT也多次呼籲可以在核能 新核能如SMR以及核廢 |
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技術和執行商支持台灣為的就是我們的能源韌性有能源安全才有國家安全我國約有98%的能源仰賴外部進口急難時可能只有數週可以使用面臨斷氣斷電的風險核電燃料一次傳運就能夠提供18個月穩定的供電故核電是目前全球公認低碳低成本安全可控 |
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且提供國家韌性的穩定能源解決方案尤其在現今的當下美國已經公開喊話願意引進現有及新興的技術並幫助解決核廢料儲存的問題顯見賴總統的核能三原則核安、核廢以及社會共識已經有了解方最後的社會共識2018年也已經公投通過我們希望用良苦的用心跨黨派的我們可以一起來支持 |
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不負工商業界全國民眾的關注謝謝謝謝葛如君召集委員補充說明報告委員會本案經審查會決議須交由黨團協商另外林世民委員許巧欣委員王玉銘委員黃劍豪委員張家俊委員等分別提案經第三會期 |
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第八、九、十一次會議決定敬賦二讀與相關提案並按協商報告委員會本案已完成協商請宣讀協商結論立法院黨團協商結論時間114年5月13日星期二上午11時20分地點一廠主席辦公室協商主題核實反應棄設施管制法第六條條文修正草案協商結論一 |
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本院院會進行處理時廣泛討論由臺灣民眾黨黨團推派二人民進黨黨團推派三十人公民黨黨團推派十五人輪流交叉發言每人發言時間為三分鐘逐條討論時各黨團均不發言並依各黨團版本提出先後進行表決及處理主持人韓國瑜 其他代表柯建民 吳世堯 陳培宇 胡坤吉 王宏威 羅志強黃國昌 張祺凱 陳昭芝 宣傳完畢 |
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請問院會對以上協商結論有無異議沒有沒有異議本案後續依協商結論進行處理現在我們進行廣泛討論請各黨團推派之代表發言每位委員發言時間三分鐘現在首先請張祺凱委員發言郭鈺晴委員請準備 |
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今天是扭正民進黨政府錯誤的能源政策非常重要的一大步 |
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全世界先進國家都在重啟核能重返核能全世界只有一個民進黨政府到現在還在跟世界的潮流對撞而且國內的多數民意最近每次這個民調都有六成以上的民眾支持要重啟或者延用核能只有民進黨到現在還在反對包括我們通過公投已經通過了 |
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與何仰利 民進黨到現在還在擺爛 還在阻擋 |
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世界潮流是怎麼樣呢在2023年2月份日本就通過了他們核電廠的研議條例他們引起他們40年的核電廠延長20年就是可以用到60年美國最近引起了他們的反應爐94個可以繼續延長最長時間高達80年 |
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比利時在2020年的3月份決定把他們的反應爐延長10年法國更明確他說只要檢查是安全的就可以繼續再用當全世界都返回核能了民進黨還像恐龍一樣他們還死抱他們的神祖牌把我們台灣拉回去以前的時間以前這種落後的觀念到現在還不改而且一再擺爛不負責任 |
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核電廠能夠燃料不只是世界的潮流台灣從我們第九屆的立法委員就是八年前就有很多提案很多的這個討論了包括有以核養力的這個公投結果民進黨直到昨天委會在質詢的時候 |
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不提對岸行政院到現在沒有版本漠視整個世界的這個潮流全世界都已經跟你講了核電廢料是可以處理的安全也是沒有問題更何況我們台灣本來就有共識的結果民進黨政府不只不負責任每一年只要貪守跟我們拿了三次的一千億的補助現在又要求一千億的補助我跟大家講 |
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核電廠在民進黨的手中核一被廢掉了核二被廢掉了核三被廢掉了一年發電成本就是多了一千億民進黨廢掉的核電之後一直拿我們人民的納稅錢來補一直要漲我們的電價所以今天民進黨如果繼續在黨以後漲電價就要找民進黨第二個 |
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核電是低碳是低碳就改成了火力發電之後用成乙肺乙肺去發電了以後大家健康有問題也請找民進黨包括利益國安的問題大家都世界上都認為說核能是一個最理想的所以請民進黨今天不要再組黨了如果民進黨今天再黨 |
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主席各位同仁大家好我想再次強調不要再用立法來架空河岸的專業 |
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1985年興建的核三廠二號機到現在已經40年了我想要問的是老舊機組到底還能不能夠撐我們的風險評估到底在哪裡那目前呢其實光是台電估算未來就算要重啟或者是要研議經過所謂的安全的檢查的程序至少也要經過三年半 |
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但台灣其實沒有重啟的這樣子的一個相關的經驗包含地震也是不定數的一個影響老舊設備能否更新這在在都是問題剛剛張啟凱委員一直提到國外的例子60年 80年然後這個核能是全世界的一個趨勢 |
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我再次強調昨天的過水的協商我已經講過了就算是美國的NRC也是階段性的審查但我們現在卻要用立法的程序直接來開綠燈 |
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到底把核安放在哪裡如果你要再用立法來架空核安的一個專業拜託不要忽略專業的審查社會的對話程序正義一定要重視大家還記得嗎之前沒多久緬甸就發生規模8.3的大地震相當於177顆的原子彈的威力 |
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而也有專家在示警因為板塊的推擠有可能台灣也會出現所謂的地震我們到底是要罔顧河岸的管制的安全把風險轉嫁給下一代嗎 |
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再来如果像昨天的协商连经济部都已经出来讲了在我们的核三二号机要除异之前已经有了接续的支援的电力包含大潭七号机包含新达新燃气的一号机以及二号机还有台中的新燃气的一号机总共481.3万瓦远远超过核三二号机的95.1万瓦将近是五倍 |
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而目前為止所有台灣的六部的機組要不就是過期要不就是5月17號即將要除役如果還是要用這種巨嬰式的修法拿全台灣人的安全來開玩笑我想剛剛張啟凱委員一直提到的到底那個民調在哪裡我們到現在沒有看到一個確實的一個數字另外 |
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還有核廢料到底又要放在哪裡難道又要來強迫弱勢地區來承擔風險嗎有問過我們屏東的鄉親嗎有人問過我們新北市民嗎如果在這些問題都沒有解決的狀況之下要來討論研議或者是重啟完全不負責任謝謝郭益勤委員的發言接下來我們請王鴻威委員發言劉書斌委員請準備 |
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主席 各位同仁今天我們站在一個歷史的轉捩點上面因為5月17號我們即將面臨河山場最後一個基礎即將除役而台灣的河電也會走入歷史 |
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如果這個時候我們不做任何的事情那麼我們就任由台灣的缺電限電甚至電價一再上漲的噩夢持續下去而且是日益嚴重在這個轉捩點上我想請問民進黨政府賴政府難道要一路的把這個錯誤的能源政策的失速列車繼續的開下去嗎 |
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我們要任由台電繼續的虧損嗎台電目前的虧損金額已經超過4000億之多我們即使一再的要求要補貼給台電但是台電仍然如一個財政的無底洞一樣完全沒有辦法彌補 |
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更不要說層出不窮的光電弊案難道我們要任由讓綠油油綠電轉寶而台電跌倒要繼續的持續下去嗎剛才民進黨的委員說國際的狀況不能夠適用於台灣但是我想請問一下台灣的技術有特別差嗎 |
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人民有特別笨嗎如果現在在亞洲鄰近的國家包含日本跟韓國都已經宣布要提高核電的比例的時候更不要說跟我們同樣有競爭關係的東南亞各國也開始陸陸續續的在增加核電機組 |
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而台湾这个时候却要选择让台湾的发电韧性越来越不足然后在过去常常在讲我们要跟国际接轨啊我们要跟国际接轨啊请问一下为什么此时此刻台湾要选择变成一个国际的独行侠呢让我们的发电韧性如此的脆弱呢 |
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所以在這邊我們要強調站在歷史的一個轉捩點的時候我們一定要做一些事情而今天我們修正核管法就是授權包含台電可以向主管機關來申請我們也讓主管機關可以經過檢視在安全無虞之下可以延長核電廠的壽命 |
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所以這個法只是拿走了這個緊箍咒謝謝王宏威委員的發言 接下來請劉書斌委員發言 范雲委員請準備 |
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主席各位同仁大家好民眾黨對於能源政策的立場是台灣是一個海島電網獨立需要多元的能源來兼顧供應安全經濟的競爭力永續包含淨零攤牌他不該被政黨的意識形態來綁架務實來解決問題方向有三 |
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第一 台灣80%的火力發電是我國人均碳排全球前十大的主因極端氣候變遷 每年造成的災損是達到上百億的台幣因此使用低碳低電價的能源核電是首選 |
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核能每度1.8元 天然氣每度3.5元 燃煤2.6元使用低碳的核電不僅能夠紓解台電的負債也能夠減輕全民跟國庫的負擔有人說核電是核安的問題但是核安外的官員在質詢當中表示發生核災時適用核安 |
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損害賠償法的時候101年的本來就要修法了但是因為沒有過去的需要這代表 |
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核電廠發生河岸事故的風險呢是很低的台灣的核電廠是安全性的安全性是高的第二全球有32個核電國家但是目前僅有芬蘭擁有永久的核廢料儲存廠其他營運核電的國家包括的是 |
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美國、法國、日本、南韓都沒有永久儲存廠但是它繼續的安全營運台灣的安全把關好也不會是大問題目前台灣的核電廠當中高階核廢料仍舊是放在廠區的乾式儲存廠只要在廠區再增建一到兩個籃球場大小的乾式儲存廠核廢料就有去處了 |
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河岸會拜呼職守會和地方有效的溝通來擱置這才是大問題第三 尊重民意在四月中旬的時候民眾黨所做出來的河山研議公投草案前是有做過民調的百分之六七十的民眾表示支持河山研議另外在河安法的公聽 河管法的公聽會當中 |
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恆春鎮的鎮長也表示證明多數支持核三研議今日修核管法第六條就是要讓核三研議有法源依據保留使用核電的機會保留使用的核電機會不要到用的時候沒有機會去沒有法源可以用並在符合國際核安的標準之下才重啟核電這非常重要國際核安的標準之下才重啟核電 |
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因此透過多元的能源來保護我們台灣來發展台灣 請大家支持 謝謝 |
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作為教育文化委員會的委員非常的遺憾我親眼見證國民黨跟民眾黨未能在委員會中實質討論昨天的協商又是粗暴的假協商爭過水我認為藍白的行為加上今天待會要強硬表決徹底徹頭的四反反族群正義反民主反國安還有反制 |
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22954.807 |
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反族群正義低階核廢料放在蘭嶼從1982年到今年已經43年了承諾的要遷出一再跳票主要就是因為要移去哪裡當地的政府都拒絕公投這些政府包含花蓮包含金門包含台東請蘭嶼好好自己溝通傅坤祺當時威脅如果亂倒核廢料原住民會北上出草請問 |
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蘭嶼的原住民就不是原住民嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[560].start |
22987.628 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].end |
23014.807 |
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你每天一天到晚勾金到哪里去了来一个人证明为什么应该一直承担十万桶没有人要的低阶核废料再来反民主蓝白不只是把我们委员会过去教文的优良传统实质讨论完全就抽空当天九个版本加从来不提案的林佩祥有一个修正动议的十个版本到后来又多了四个版本结果 |
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我們到今天現場看到一個從來沒有實質討論的重啟版從林佩祥把我們最早最晚五年前廚藝五年前必須提出改成廚藝的前一天就可以提出今天我們等一下要表決的版本是在廚藝後任何一天都可以這已經不是演繹了各位這是重啟完全缺乏配套缺乏討論的粗糙版本 |
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美國日本瑞士針對核電廠演繹都需要公投我們屏東高雄甚至台南的民代都全面反對所以他是踐踏國會民主也踐踏基層民主核電廠要有local consent當地人的同意第三反國安如果有關注歐戰爭發現核電廠會變成戰爭中的戰略目標藍白如此急著演繹難道是要讓台灣的國安風險再增加嗎 |
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23090.871 |
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最後一個反制藍白立委真的可笑在委員會中說把他比成王偉章姓白鷹委員說這是搭飛機難道要禁止搭飛機嗎還有說全世界都可以處理核廢料台灣為什麼不行還拿芬蘭當例子 |
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芬蘭是個無地震的國家花了五十年才溝通在地民眾才即將有世界上第一座高階核廢料我要告訴大家今天藍白是搶先全世界將重啟核電廠粗暴法之王因為到目前為止沒有一個國家在除印後要重啟的例子請藍白告訴我是哪個例子你們反制啊謝謝范雲委員的發言接下來請葛如軍委員發言莊瑞雄委員請準備 |
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核管法自民國92年施行以來已經歷經22年套一句民進黨的名言時空環境背景不同老舊的現行條文已經不符合國際的趨勢也不符合我們對於穩定平價能源的需求 |
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更跟不上各國能源科技發展的現狀對此早在第八屆就已經有委員提出核管法的修正草案無論修法內容是什麼我們的政府以前的原能會現在的核安會從來沒有對各界的修法需求給予任何回應 |
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本席自本會期擔任教文委員會的召委以來盡力的和各界充分的溝通充分了解台灣未來能源發展及規劃在3月19號召開的核管法公聽會也邀請15位專家學者提供各種科學的證據佐證核能的安全性無庸置疑也讓各界的工種商種等等業界代表表達對於台灣缺電危機的憂慮 |
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我們事實上也在5月12號在冷凍期滿以後召開核管法的協商很遺憾的 核安會並沒有對14個委員以及黨團提案的版本表達任何修法意見在長達45分鐘的協商過程裡 召委也現場徵詢核安會主委對於修法版本的意見 |
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主委竟然只表示四个字尊重大院为他的主要回应在没有院版没有任何一个民进党委员提案版本的情况之下只能很遗憾的表示本次合法的审查过程里行政院和民进党终究是缺席了 |
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面對全國民眾和產業界對於有穩定供電的渴望民進黨和行政院始終選擇背過身去充耳不聞現在我們還是沒有看到任何一個民進黨的修法版本被提出 |
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他們可能會批評現有的版本都不夠好沒有統合基底的版本或者表決前才出現這個版本但是別忘了從頭到尾我們都有給予充足的討論時間並且尊重民進黨的委員們提案的權利核能研議與相關管制辦法民眾都支持關注而民進黨遲到22年未提出修法版本 |
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主管機關至今甚至對14個版本提出的意見均為空白甚至本來應該要提出意見的欄位顯示為空白因此當然也就非常難擬出所謂的參考版底版從來沒有這樣的一個做法 |
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我們應該與現今的情勢和管理技術來統合民意最終最細緻的版本就是現在這個版本請民進黨委員們尊重台灣全體謝謝葛如君委員的發言接下來我們請莊瑞雄委員發言賴世保委員請準備 |
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謝謝主席還有在場的委員我剛剛聽了中國國民黨跟台灣民眾黨委員的一個發言以後啊就是只有一個感想你們就是欺負人家 你們就是欺負人家怎麼會說把這個整個核管法第六條把它通過今天提出來討論你們認為民主進步黨缺席是違背台灣人民的一個民意剛剛我看台灣民眾黨的委員兩位啊 |
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還有中國國民黨的委員你們的提案裡面的說明啊我聽了是非常的一個感慨這個叫做傲慢你們說學者專家全民都有共識了你們都有你這個共識從哪而來我就不知道但是呢怎麼會把我們屏東人講的說我們好像屏東都是白癡我們屏東人都喜歡河山場我們都喜歡河廢料你講這個你敢聽下去 |
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知識份子再怎麼傲慢也不可能說五十二席加個八席以後提個暗叫所有設在核電廠的人要繼續無端漫無道理地繼續再忍受下去啊沒有道理啊過去核一跟核二光在新北你要設立一個幹涉儲存廠不管是從朱立倫不管是到侯友宜哪一個是贊成的 |
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所以你出來講說這個原民N會還是待無職守你這個道理講到哪裡去了我必須要在這邊再一次更靠台灣民眾了尤其是張旗桿委員啦不要那麼傲慢啦蘭嶼放了十萬桶放了四十三年啦蘭嶼只要任何一桶低階的一桶核廢料不要說出現在台東出現在台北市都是國際上的大事啊 |
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那對你們來講你們認為說你們就是矮人一等嘛核廢料本來就該放在你蘭嶼嘛核廢料本來就該放在核酸廠的屏東嘛這就是你們的基本邏輯嘛你們認為你們高人一等嘛好啊重啟核電可以啊你要蓋核電廠可以啊那為什麼你是針對核酸啊屏東人欠你們啊你憑什麼什麼你們討論好了什麼叫全民共識 |
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你們新進來委員說恆春鎮長 恆春鎮民全部都贊成你這屁話哪來的啊當屏東人當恆春人都是白癡我們都很喜歡核廢料這話你講得出來嗎我再重新再強調啊核三廠你要重新再啟動你把它想想看5月17號馬上要除役了 |
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你這個法律通過以後也沒有用啦你要講合一合三 我就跟你講合一合二一併討論啦量你們都不敢啦你們欺負民東人嘛 你們欺負台東人嘛你們認為你們高人一等嘛 這叫放屁 |
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謝謝主席韓院長那麼各位先進這個聽了我們民進黨委員很多的話有時候覺得這個不說聽真話啦首先我要強調的世界潮流現在是減碳不減核 |
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看一看川普總統民進黨政府最喜歡的川普總統最喜歡的美國政府這兩天簽了什麼讓美國核能更加偉大讓美國的核能更加偉大他要把核電廠擴大四倍聽好喔 四倍聽好喔 他要擴大四倍 |
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他要擴大10倍他要增加核電廠的基礎因為因應他的用電的需求大量的增加美國幾乎是台灣政府的阿爸他都這樣做了 |
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我們還不跟嗎再來AIT的主席連夜的發了前面有委員講到核安的問題來美國爸爸AIT幫你解決核廢料的問題美國爸爸幫你解決你有什麼好怕的呢你們講核安美國幫你解決核廢料美國幫你解決你是在怕什麼 |
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美國要讓核電再次偉大 要蓋四倍的廠核安的問題 美國解決 核廢料的問題 美國幫你解決你有什麼好怕的 現在在野黨 我們是為了民生我們知道民進黨不願意放棄虛幻的一個神主牌 |
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我們幫你解決修核官法第六條讓核三長如果延役不需要五年前面的繁重時間而且是經濟部得啊你們是執政黨你可以不要啊 |
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沒有因難得啊你也可以可得可不得啊你不要就不要啊我們是把路都給你鋪好了怎麼有這麼好的災害黨啊怎麼有這麼好的災害黨啊你們的問題路障都幫你解決了美國幫你解決了我們的災害黨幫你解決了 |
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你還不趕快跟進啊啊等待何時啊啊等待何時啊我們的賴總統跟左院長都說了等到新興的核電廠出來呢我們運用核電這個叫高級的騙術啊這個是高級的騙術 為什麼因為SMR它現在還沒商品化等到SMR商品化可能三年五年以後的事情 |
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現在最好的辦法就是什麼請美國來幫我們看看河岸的問題看看河溫的問題看看河岸還有地方可以蓋新的核電廠河山還有地方可以蓋新的核電廠他來幫我們蓋也可以解決一個貿易逆差的問題關稅的問題謝謝賴氏寶委員的發言接下來請武力華為發言黃健豪委員請準備 |
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再过四天核三厂二号机就要停机除役但是今天在这里我们却看到处心积虑的要来强行表决核管法的修法开绿灯让核一核二核三可以重新启动 |
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對只要人多什麼樣的表決都能過但是我們卻看到心虛3月31號那一天我們送出委員會不敢記名 |
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今天在這裡強行表決我不知道會不會記名但是我們可以看見不敢對歷史負責不敢對人民安全負責這個道理很簡單我是原住民也是屏東人 |
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蘭嶼的核廢料從當初騙他們說是罐頭工廠就是一個心虛直到今天一片再片我們看不到前出的一天高階核廢料的最終處置廠沒有法源還要談什麼 |
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連蘭嶼這種低階核廢料雖然好不容易有了法源但是要透過公投這些年哪一個縣市敢辦公投所以可以說這個問題根本無解今天我們再來看屏東的核三廠它有重啟的本錢嗎它未在恆春斷城帶 |
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我曾经在921的时候在屏东的新丰国小服务当时学校就是位在潮州断层带238公里远的短头竟然可以造成我们学校的地板均裂隆起之后我们重建了一个防震系数7.8的防震校园 |
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我们回头来看看我们能够重启环平吗刚才大家都谈了很多根本就算我们不要谈这世界上根本没有所谓的核电厂除异后又重启的先例都是在胡说八道但是我们知道今天不是高瞻远瞩也不是短视近利而是看到别有居心 |
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今天我們那麼重視核安那麼樣的排斥萊豬卻對核電所帶來的昂貴的成本的代價卻可以這樣子不把它當一回事我們一起加油 謝謝 |
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討論要表決的不是一個主動讓核電廠研議的法案也不是5月17我們達成民進黨非核家園的夢想之後核電廠能夠馬上恢復運轉的條文這只是一個讓台灣保留多元能源選擇的一個法案 |
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5月17號之後台灣要不要使用核電依法它最終決定權還是主管機關的權利不是立法院的權利我們只是把這個法條的限制拿開而已 |
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根據國際原子能總署的統計到今年5月為止全世界有417座核反應爐其中運轉超過40年以上的有190座佔比達到45.7%50年以上的有44座佔比達到10.6% |
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可以想看見說核電廠符合安全規範之下運轉超過40年的不是特例但我國三座核電廠在運轉超過40年期滿後停役我想這跟國際上現在普遍的核電廠繼續演繹的趨勢背道而馳也與世界主流追求淨零碳排的理念相違背 |
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高碳排高污染的火力發電取代了之後我想更是讓我們台中人深受其害我想連美國AIT都公開的訪問中多次談到台灣的能源問題在429跟5月5號的時候更多次的明確指出無論台灣有什麼需求美國都能提供能源解方在核能方面美國準備好協助引進既有的 |
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信心技術例如小型模組化反應爐也樂意幫助台灣解決核廢料儲存的挑戰所以我想連美國都這麼關心台灣的能源問題我想能源問題不僅只是能源問題更是國家安全的問題 |
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我們知道說我們現在一直面對中共的灰色地帶的行動那我們這樣子高度仰賴進口能源的發電結構根本就是把我國的國家安全交給國際局勢來決定我想這對台灣的國家安全絕對不是一個好事我們當然期待穩定的能源供應能夠讓國家安全更加確保 |
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那我想每一項發電大家都有外部成本都有不同形式的污染核電或許有核廢料的問題火力發電有空污跟高碳排的溫室氣體那風電跟太陽能不只貴效率低落它也是當代科技有無法處理的科技垃圾所以我們在面對這些問題的時候應該務實一點看待而不是把 |
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能源放在單一的非核家園的觀點裡面來看那我想我國對核電的恐懼在2014年福島核災之後確實達到了高峰但10年後的今天連日本自己都已經重啟了核電我們也應該重新思考非核家園這個理念到底有沒有堅持到底的必要性我們期待立法院大家能夠共同來面對這問題一起來討論 謝謝 |
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謝謝黃介豪委員的發言接下來我們請吳佩儀委員請發言謝同介委員請準備 |
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各位關心台灣核能安全的國民我是教文會的委員所以今天我必須要很負責任的告訴大家我們在教文會如何審查核管法核管法應該是有關核能安全是科學專業的法案但是很遺憾我們看到在葛如軍在召集的這個協商當中只有黑箱只有政治完全凌駕了核能的安全 |
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剛剛葛如君說這個怎麼河安會沒有提出這個相關的說明呢我手上這一本關係文書4月10號我們在委會審查的時候河安會就已經清楚說明了他說明什麼呢他說明的情況就一如昨天我們在協商的時候國民黨民眾黨總共加起來提出了14個版本加上林佩祥的修正動議14加1個版本裡面的版本通通不同 |
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有的要延誼有的要再運轉也就是重啟有的要求申請前一到六個月要提出有的如秋正軍通通都沒寫也沒有上線昨天我們一再的詢問請問葛如君你要寫上的是哪一個版本結果很遺憾通通沒有討論這會造成什麼問題在河安會4月10號給答覆當中就問了這些委員的提案有些似乎同時適用了運轉中及除役中的機組 |
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而今天我們看到了剛剛今天才收到的藍白最高機密版在直播的現場不敢當著國人面前討論在小房間用黑箱喬的喬出來的版本當中赫然發現過去一切是騙局今天我們手上這一份只有再運轉什麼是再運轉 |
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也就是核電廠除役之後要再重啟除役的機組要再重啟是今天藍白提出的核管法修法的版本也就是我們過去擔心的是核商廠研議要造成什麼樣相關的評估的衝擊今天我們要擔心的甚至要包括了在新北的核一核二廠 |
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這三個廠都可能因今天藍白等會要強行透過的核管法修法而有重啟的機會當地新北屏東的民眾可能要再一次的夢魘現在我們在新北的核一核二廠的單式儲存廠的室外廠這個總共核一有7000數的高階核廢料核二有將近1萬數 |
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但是核外乾除能夠儲存多少大家知道嗎不到三分之一剩下的要靠室內乾除到現在沒有發包出去這些通通加起來都沒有辦法處理還不要說最終處置廠所以今天藍帶子告訴我們他們要修法重啟核電廠卻不告訴我們請問核廢料要怎麼處理如果核一核二廠要在 |
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使用20年會再增加20倍的核廢料這些高階核廢料該市儲存廠要興建在哪裡興建在新北嗎最終處置長要在哪裡藍白哪一個立委敢負責任的提出來只有政治的修法而沒有負責的提出核廢料處理方式這是政治理家專業我們絕對要大聲的說出 |
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好 謝謝吳佩儀委員的發言接下來我們請謝榮健委員發言 鍾嘉斌委員請準備大家午安 我為台灣的鄉親屬意的講 米霧丟米霧 不喝咖啡 |
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好天 也就這股火來牛台灣人員非常緊張尤其是我們的執政黨沒辦法撇滅太陽營開發的過程高潔臨摹不中所以火營在全世界的交流裡面我們都知道沒有安全就沒有火營當然 火營如果沒有協調未來 |
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你要做就不會有效如果聽到總統說的兩年前就開始說必要的時候台灣要考慮婦人他很清楚為什麼求一個非婦人的家庭這個新珠牌白條條大家都辦不開呢我非常感厚 |
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沒辦法理性來探討台灣人員的問題就沒有AI啊 哪有什麼AIAI吃大電啊 超級電腦計算吃大電啊軍事工業的發電沒超級電腦的計算 沒有AI要靠什麼軍事工業的 要怎麼保護台灣呢所以 今天我們政府這次把這個發電型套 |
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未來每一個附電廠要延約必須經過一層多方的安全設施的檢測通過之後才能運轉啊不是今天通過五月十七就繼續運轉呢你的政府為什麼對自己的事情沒信心為什麼對台電的運動沒信心為什麼對自己的政策對國家安全沒要負責哇 在這裡五中心動啊 |
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拜託我們的政府 老總統幫助台灣人一條生路幫助企業界一條生路幫助我們的家孫的幸福未來一條生路全世界都已經重啟負能發電的交流我們的太陽能發電一度5個 |
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印度的太陽能發電一坨一坨今天我們如果用一坨一坨做得起來我沒意見啊問題過程究竟淪陌不中的沒辦法解決啦所以如果今天沒做明天再去協會 |
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未來我們要付出更多的代價在我們的家村上面所以這是一個負責任的手法也是我們對著台灣未來幸福的前途一個公平健康的做法 |
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主席 在場的委員 媒體先進疫情期間有人批評那時候的在野黨 國民黨 移美是工作 赴美是生活啊剛剛很荒謬的聽到賴斯堡委員居然叫我們要相信美國 你不是一天到晚懷疑美國嗎 |
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賴斯堡人說川普說核電會讓美國再度偉大你那麼喜歡核電廠你就搬到美國去住好不好啊畢竟國民黨很多啊柯志文的家人李玉敏的豪宅都在美國啊問題是你在美國住在核電廠旁邊跟在台灣住在核生產旁邊有沒有不一樣不一樣 |
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美國的核廢料最終廚師廠放在荒漠當中台灣目前為止包括河山站內三座核電廠的高階用過燃料棒都還放在原子廠內選址最終廚師廠選擇放哪裡 |
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國民黨 在野黨 你們有多數趕快通過一個修紙 選紙的法律 選紙條例啊選紙條例不出來 台天公司 經濟部選在哪裡 到處都抗議有本事 你想住在核電廠旁邊 不想住在核非法旁邊先把選紙條例先訂出來 我們在討論要不要延誼 |
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這才是真正的作為 不然永遠是什麼以美是工作 富美是生活說核電有多好 不敢住在核電廠旁邊擺明了欺負屏東人 欺負核電廠所在的帶地人 |
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剛剛我們吳佩儀委員說到了黑箱這個條例到後來本來以為針對河山現在衝著河一河二都來了別傻了 河一河二新北市也在內黑箱還莫為此勝今天上午我們11點20分的朝野協商說好了 院長說好了我們這個河管條例完了之後要來處理刑法161條 161-1 172-1-5 七個條文到現在條文在哪裡 |
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我們只能根據我們手上的原來的 送出原來的版本我們要來提我們的再修正動議剛剛我們的執行長 呃 執行長跟我說我們說第四個人說 有國民黨藍白的修正動議現在在哪裡 你出來了 本來答應12點半有沒有答應12點半給我們 沒有 |
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在誰手上偉大的黃國昌手上又來了去年我擔任司法法制召委我們送這個法案在黑箱再修正條例之中整個例子法被修得亂七八糟被修得宣告違憲難不成 |
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國民黨民眾黨要再來一次攸關司法院法務部執法人員最重要的刑法161條161-1 172-1-5這些不法關說這些棄保潛逃我們要怎麼處理沒有拿出版本叫我們怎麼修法黑江好謝謝鍾嘉斌委員的發言接下來我們請王玉明委員發言林依靜委員請準備 |
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主席各位委員大家好我想今天我們討論能源議題它是科學的議題不是政治的議題也不需要在這邊大小聲 |
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剛剛有民進黨的立委提到說他從來沒有看過民調他不知道民調支不支持核電我想我這邊非常清楚這個民進黨的委員要用功天下雜誌他在去年2024年10月2號發布了一個將近1.5萬人的一個民調 |
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有近七成的民眾是支持繼續使用核電而這當中他還特別去分析了政黨的傾向即使是民進黨 請民進黨的委員看一下 |
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民進黨的支持者也有五五波也就是有一半的人是支持繼續使用核電的這個就是民意這個就是作為民意代表在國會裡面我們任何的修法行使我們的職權應該以民意作為依據作為依歸 |
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另外一個從國際的趨勢來看剛剛宗嘉斌委員特別去提到美國我們如果不提美國也可以提日本請問日本還是發生核災變的國家有沒有重啟它的核電廠呢有 |
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為什麼因為日本他們發現他們能源需求高靠其他的能源選項沒有辦法而台灣的地理條件我們跟日本非常的相似我們沒有其他國家可以輸電給我們我們不像歐洲其他國家所以放諸世界先進的國家我想請問哪一個國家徹底排除了核電的這個選項可不可以請民進黨的朋友也告訴我們 |
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所以我們如果要把我們的國家治理得更好符合這整個世界的趨勢包括現在整個AI我們的運用我們的用電需求我們的電動車都是越來越高在這樣的情況底下難道台灣真的可以排除核能的這一個穩定供電的能源選項嗎我們當然是沒有這樣的一個條件 |
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所以今天我們黨是很負責任的希望給台灣一條路走希望保留核電還可以繼續啟用這樣的一個選項 |
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當台灣面臨到能源匱乏的時候我們不會讓我們的國家安全受到威脅我們不會讓老百姓的生活大受影響這個就是一個負責任的政黨考量到長遠的人民的利益國家的利益而所提出來的法案請民進黨停止政治的攻擊跟污衊謝謝 |
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謝謝王玉明委員的發言接下來請林怡謹委員發言徐議政委員請準備 |
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主席 各位同仁 反核運動走了幾十年 核三廠二號機終於要在本週六依法除役但是在台灣正式飛核家園的前四天 永和集團結合藍白立委硬是要推翻我們遵循已久 而且每一座核電廠早就開始實踐了除役標準 |
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今天由國民黨主導的修法和本週五即將協商由民眾黨主導的核三廠繼續運轉的公投案必須合在一起看他們的目標非常清楚就是要打出一套組合拳 |
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25025.937 |
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降低核安標準無視核廢料的處置讓老舊核電廠繼續運轉昨天國民黨的召委葛如軍召開的協商擺明了就是過水協商過程民進黨立委好聲好氣的提醒法案版本那麼多協商如果要有意義就必須整合出一個統一的版本不然根本無從討論起 |
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這麼基本的事情國民黨不理不睬寧願在今天上午10點46分才在院處交出未經討論的第一版的最高機密版自從南白聯合過半之後立法院就一直用這種自甘墮惡的態度在處理爭議法案不敢在委員會論述只想在院會用人數優勢強壓過關 |
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到底憑什麼全台灣2300萬人的命運必須要被掌握在傅坤祺跟他的小弟黃國昌的手中我再強調一次讓本來就依法廚藝的核電廠有繼續運轉的可能就是在降低核安標準核三廠緊鄰核村活動斷層 台灣地狹人稠 |
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而且西邊還有來自中國的武力威脅核能發展的三大原則安全無虞核廢料的處理還有社會共識我們沒有一項達標在這樣的狀況之下藍白還硬要降低核安標準不是根本不知道自己在做什麼就是根本不安好心 |
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我想能做的溝通我們都做了可以論述的一議大家要講過一輪了藍白還是執迷不悟所以剩下的其實也只有六個字大罷免大成功好 謝謝林益謹委員的發言接下來我們請徐宇貞委員發言陳秀寶委員請準備 |
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各位同仁大家好今天所審議的核子反應器設施管制法第六條修正草案是一項極具時代意義的能源政策的調整也是一場讓台灣走出能源困局回到科學 |
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与理性轨道的关键工程过去的法条规定核子反应器的运转的执照最长为40年到了年限即使设备状况良好系统安全无虞也无法延长运转这样的规定不仅过于僵化也与国际通行的做法严重的脱节今日我们提出的修法正是要解开这项不合时宜的枷锁 |
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賦予主管機關在確認設備安全功能完好之後得以核准在運轉最長20年的彈性空間特別是在全球邁向淨零碳排的目標下核能被重新認可為穩定低碳的能源選項歐洲議會已經將核能正式列入綠能的分類美國日本等22國也已經在氣候峰會上共同承諾2050年前將核電 |
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規模擴增三倍國際走在前面難道台灣還要抱著意識形態不放民進黨政府高舉非核家園的神主牌在貿易出口持續擴張的過程中企業的用電焦慮越來越深而且民生電價逐年攀升台電公司因高價收購綠電而虧損年年 |
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已经成为全民买单的提款机随着AI产业发展的加速资料中心 半导体 精密制造等高耗能的产业陆续的扩张电力的需求早已不是过去的规模根据经济部的报告AI相关用电量将在未来十年会暴增到112年的八倍我们怎么还能用老旧的政策去应付全球贸易新的挑战呢 |
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在國際普遍延長核電壽命之60年甚至80年的經驗下只要核安無虞我們就應該保有同樣的選項而這次的修正案清楚的規定核電執照期滿後只要經主管機關確認設施安全即可申請再運轉最長20年並賦予法源依據明確負責透明讓程序更合理 |
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讓民眾更安心核能研議申請必須經過科學數據的佐證專業的審查程序核能安全是絕對不能妥協的底線讓我們透過這次的修法解除不合時宜的禁錮打破能源政策長期的意識形態束縛回歸務實之理擁抱多元選項懇請各位委員支持本次的修法讓台灣的能源政策走得更穩更遠更負責任謝謝 |
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謝謝許宇峥委員的發言接下來我們請陳秀寶委員發言 劉許廷委員請準備 |
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沒有核安就沒有核能沒有討論沒有共識強勢表決就是暴力就是辜負全民漠視民意核磁反應器設施管制法修正草案3月31日在教文委員會排審對於核電廠重啟再運轉必須解決的課題並沒有共識尤其極端氣候地震及最重要的核廢料中期 |
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及最終處置場等現況能視我們以及全球現在無力承擔及解決的和安為基更有國民黨委員以干涉儲存場還有空間為由告訴民眾可以繼續發展核能用極為不負責任的態度說法框騙民眾在委員會的現場完全沒有溝通的共識在國民黨召委的強勢表決下就送出委員會在野黨忽視和安 |
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強過核管法就是要全民承擔風險根本政治凌駕安全40年前的核電廠建築安全早已無力承擔越來越強烈的氣候影響而且當年的安全屏屋並未包含在核產廠附近的恆春斷層在野黨只是會不負責任告訴民眾用核電可以不漲電價 |
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但是卻沒有告訴民眾核三長存在的安全隱憂在野黨也完全不在乎全台人民的安全及健康國際中使用核電的國家例如核電佔比比台灣還高的韓國電價能是持續的上升 |
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簡見電價並非受核能使用佔比影響而40年前的老舊核電廠落藥研議光是硬體更新經費可能高達三四百億還不包含後續燃料棒的購買以及安全維護的費用這些費用也將由全民買單電費不會上漲只是在野黨欺騙全民的大謊言一直以來我們強調的都是核能安全核廢料處置以及社會共識三大前提 |
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目前核廢料的中期及最終處置場選址並未完成另外在社會共識的部分我們社會中對於核能的存續及發展能有高程度的對立所以在野黨這麼貿然的強推核管法根本就是放棄與社會溝通公然的挑戰反對核能的民意如此只會造成社會撕裂造成社會不安得到了只有在野黨的政治利益 |
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政治不能凌駕專業政治不能凌駕安全是民進黨一直堅守的原則也是不可退讓的底線核子反應器設施管制法以專業安全來管理核子反應器必須經過縝密嚴謹的評估討論才能修法而不是在委員會中在院會中以人數碾壓所以我們要強調無法充分討論無法取得社會共識無法核廢料處置之下我們沒有繼續發展核能的本錢 |
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請在野黨好好思考不要為了自身的政治利益葬送核能安全不要為了自身的政治利益要求全民承擔風險致人民安全國家安全不顧謝謝陳秀寶委員的發言接下來請劉許廷委員發言徐富奎委員請準備 |
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謝謝主席 答應各位同仁 各位媒體先進朋友今天進行核管法的大體討論這個本席首先表達從政初始這個2018年我第一次競選議員其實就積極地投入當年的以核養綠公投我們希望用科學 用理性的方式來討論能源政策 |
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這樣子的一個精神是本席從事政治工作一貫的主張以核養綠這樣的一個政策方向更是2024本席競選立法委員的時候白紙黑字刊登於競選公報的競選政見因此支持今日核管法的修正是政策的實踐也是對於務實能源政策追求最積極的態度 |
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我們之所以會有這樣子的主張其實是因為本席的家鄉桃園是非核家園政策下面最大的受害者當核電逐步降低發電比例綠能發展又跟不上速度的時候替代的電力其實是由大量的火力機組來做填補 |
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在桃園市觀音的大潭電廠大規模的擴建本席的選區盧竹海湖長生火力發電廠擴建龜山國光火力發電廠擴建各式各樣的火電大擴建酸雨大壓境是桃園環境的衝擊 |
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目前 桃園市有七座火力電廠 七座氣電共生廠如果核電歸零 桃園市將成為替代電力最直接承受的城市成為火力全開政策下 直接的受害者也是最大的犧牲者因此 我們當然希望 能源政策可以科學 可以務實 也可以多元 |
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避免空氣污染、酸雨壓境侵害桃園的鄉親再來我們要提及電價的上漲在民進黨錯誤的能源政策下台電的虧損越來越嚴重近三年補助台電希望有五千億元財務黑洞依然擴大即便撥補還是同步造成電價的上漲 |
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近兩年各項企業電價上漲有百分之三十的有百分之七十的護國神山台積電更是上漲百分之九十一這一切都是為了彌補錯誤的能源政策為了改變解決台電的財務黑洞問題 |
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比起國定假日立法4加1造成輕微的人力負擔上升這個電價的上漲才是資方才是企業最大最大的噩夢我要在此再三強調節省人力成本不是解方 |
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解決電價黑洞才是產業最期待看到政府的積極作為我們希望大院聽完這個之後可以支持國際的趨勢可以支持科學支持理性共同支持務實可行的能源政策謝謝大家謝謝牛許廷委員發言接下來請徐富奎委員發言翁曉琳委員請準備 |
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謝謝主席我想我們是一個民主法治的國家那所有的行政機關也必須依法行政那依核官法的規定核能機組運轉了40年就必須除役我想這個是一個依法行政的作為我是來自屏南區的一個立委我堅決的捍衛我們鄉親的一個安危那今天很遺憾看到國民黨跟民眾黨的委員針對這樣一個強力 |
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強力一個不當的修法我們予以提出一個譴責我想藍白立委不能用能源政策作為一個混淆視聽的一個說法那尤其很遺憾的國民黨民眾黨藉由一次又一次的過水協商甚至強行修法的一個手段達到他們擁有的一個政治快車道的一個做法不但無視於一個河岸的一個安全甚至也違背一個修法的一個嚴謹性我想我們深感遺憾 |
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我們堅決反對用政治操作的核管法來修法那我想過去在野黨一直強調民進黨政府把核電廠想關就關我想這是一個無知的說法尤其過去我們這個40年我們的核電廠的一個設施我也曾經問過這個當時建廠的一些團隊現有的核三廠的一個設施未來能不能重啟確實存在很多的一個安全的一個疑慮我想 |
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這個是必須要好的來檢視那更何況在這個未來甚至一個同儕的審查和安的模擬甚至一個儲存空間的一個規劃部分台灣過去沒有演繹的一個先例未來要如何面對這些問題值得深思熟慮我想演繹不能變成一個政治的決定也不是一個 |
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對地方政府跟人民一個考驗我們河山廠我們河山廠的存在河山廠的鄉親我想我們不需要面對這樣一個危機那今天很遺憾截至目前為止並沒有看到新北市國民黨跟民眾黨的委員出來發言我請他們能夠站出來勇敢大聲說他們支持讓河一河二廠能夠飛忽運轉我想他們不敢說因為他們怕被罷免我想這是最大的一個原因 |
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那身為平淡區的立委我想5月17號我們核三廠二號機依法除役這是一個運轉的法制的規定那未來我想在核廢料的處理並沒有一個妥適的安排之下我們反對在核能安全的處理上面 |
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針對重要的一個設施設備必須盤點這部分也必須透過國際跟相關的一些規範甚至我們一些監管單位的一個要求我想這部分也必須做嚴謹的處理最後一個就是目前針對社會共識的部分針對我們推動核電跟反對核電確實還有存在很多不同的意見在還沒有達成共識前我想恢復運轉確實需要深思熟慮 |
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謝謝徐富奎委員的發言接下來請翁曉琳委員發言張雅琳委員請準備 |
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主席還有在座的各位委員同仁們大家好今天本席很負責的推動核電廠研議的法案主要就是看到民進黨政府過去錯誤的能源政策造成台灣的空氣污染嚴重能源結構失衡供電吃緊電價高漲台電的長年虧損 |
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我提醒各位蔡政府任內8年我們歷經了4次全國性的大規模停電無數次的小區域停電還有從北到南科學園區輪流停電不僅如此我們的電價高漲我們竟有4次的電價調漲民生產業 |
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叫苦连天台电的亏损就像是无底洞政府过去三年已经拨补了台电三千多亿那么至今还亏损四千多亿是越补越大洞实在是没有道理让民众无止境的倒贴帮民进党政府的错误政策买单 |
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台湾必须推动能源多元化我们不能够忽视台湾高度依赖能源进口的现实超过九成的能源都是来自国外这样的结构让我们在国际局势变动的时候呢风险倍增 |
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能源多元才能够确保我们有自主的选择权而核能绝对就是一个不可或缺的重要选项核能呢它也是确定它也是稳定可靠而且近乎是零碳排的干净能源它对我们的健康有实质的帮助各位知道吗根据卫福部的统计 |
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肺癌已经是连续20年来蝉联国人癌症的死亡人数之首很多人以为只有抽烟才会得肺癌但其实空气污染特别是像是PM2.5才是造成肺腺癌的重大原因 |
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那么当然或许有人会担心核废料的问题但是我要非常负责任的告诉大家现在已经有很多新兴的科技的发展能够安全有效的处理核废料全球已经有许多的国家都成功建立中长期的核废料的处置机制这不是一个无解的难题这些经验是我们可以参考与引进的 |
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国际趋势同样也显示河南正在重新的被重视法国美国乃至于反核的德国以及曾经历经福岛事件以及地震频繁的日本也都纷纷的提高核电的比例那么我想这个是对于我们台湾最有利的而且是有助于经济发展强化产业竞争力更是对全民健康的保障 |
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在此我呼吁全民都应该理性看待核能那么支持核电是为了台湾的能源自主是为了减少空气污染更是为了我们下一代能够呼吸到新鲜的空气以上谢谢大家 |
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謝謝收看,下次見! |
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各位現場的立法委員同事們然後還有我們現場看直播的朋友們我想在這一系列從去年開始國民黨提出的核管法修法我們就看到了一系列荒謬的行徑像是我們昨天如果看直播就會知道說其實我們一直不停的在委員會裡面具體的力爭要葛禄君召委告訴我們今天到底要修哪一個版本 |
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因為版本五花八門有的是要那個演繹從60年有的是像林沛翔的版本完全沒有上線這到底要怎麼審查那再來就是說荷安要怎麼處理依據國際的一些相關的規範我們要到5到15年之前就要來去做一些申請 |
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免疫的步驟然後我們的最終核廢料處置長要怎麼處理在這一年來國民黨跟民眾黨都沒有直球對決都沒有來討論然後呢就說協商結束了這就很像一台老舊的飛機已經報廢多年囉 |
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結果有人說重新加點油換個輪胎繼續就可以飛了問題是飛安檢查了嗎乘客的命不值錢嗎我想這都不是我們對人民的安全應該有的一個態度白白說有開會有協商好像很有程序但人民要的是實質的討論不是過水 |
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藍白現在做的是假協商 真偷渡用形式主義來包裝黑箱的決策到今天中午的時候我們才拿到合併好的再修正動議藍白要推的不僅只是核三嚴議現在是連停機的核一核二都要重啟 |
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坦白說因為AI時代我們要有更多的電但是根據台電的資料都已經說了在2032前我們的發電供應充足而且完全可以去因應AI時代不管是NVIDIAAMAZON他們成長所需要的電都有算進去更何況 |
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核電的發電佔比現在只有4%如果說像剛剛翁小林委員說的我們的能源要多元化那我們不就是應該要來要求經濟部持續的去推動多元的綠能打造一個穩定節能的電力系統嗎但是現在藍白做的卻是讓我們用生命去交換那環境風險去賭那我想問最現實的一個問題 |
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核廢最終的處置場到底要在哪裡即將要參選的高雄市長柯志恩洪孟凱新北的洪孟凱嘉義的張祺凱還有台南的謝榮健你們敢不敢出來喊要負責協調最終核廢料的處置場嗎如果你們不敢就不要說這是一個負責任的立法這是一個世代不正義族群不正義程序不正義的立法 |
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謝謝張雅琳委員的發言接下來我們請邱志偉委員發言蔡易瑜委員請準備謝謝 |
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今天有五個國民黨委員的提案共同併案在二度審查有黃建豪、張家俊、王育敏、林世民、徐曉欣各自提出核管法的修正案我剛仔細聽好像只聽到黃建豪好像王育敏有提一下但是還是沒有講清楚還有另外三個委員提案 |
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包括林思敏 徐曉欣 張家俊我懷疑你們到底知不知道你們提案的內容是什麼如果你真的在乎你的提案內容你應該在惡德的時候並濫審查 你要說明清楚講明白 說服全國民眾很可惜 都沒有出現是罐頭法案 罐頭立委 |
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還有自稱百分之一優秀人才的基隆林佩祥三個提案的共同提案人三個提案他是共同提案人 就是說他對這法案應該一清二楚 |
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你的立場在哪裡我很期盼能夠在接下來的時間聽你林佩祥百分之一優秀人才發表你對核四核能廠研議的精闢的說法人在哪裡全國民眾諧訓林佩祥好不好另外讓我更期盼的國政基金會里長是誰里長是誰 |
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要選高雄市市長柯市仁屏東駐的你有話要說嗎有個提案沒有你任何的提案連署今天的發言也看不出你為屏東鄉親說出那一句話 |
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這種人 你作為政策基金會執行長你統籌所有立法院 立法院黨團所有的法案政策竟然沒有經過你劃壓你沒有批一通鄉親說一句話明顯的失職 明顯的失格我很非常好奇你待會如果表決的時候你柯志安怎麼表決蘇星泉呢 |
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屏東的蘇星泉呢?台東的黃建斌呢?黃建斌你隔壁不就是河山廠嗎?這些人呢?那麼你們認為重要的法案必須在這個時候通過你們有把台灣人民把屏東人民的生存權未來權放在眼裡嗎?是剛出生的時候 |
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我還有很多要講我覺得只能解決這個方法好 謝謝邱志偉委員的發言接下來我們請蔡易營委員發言邱易營委員請準備 |
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謝謝主席今天討論核官法大概就是在講核三的原意不過我們要知道在2019年核一除役2021年核二除役他們都並不是滿四十年除役他們都提早除役 |
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那為什麼提早除以呢?因為沒有所謂高階核廢料的乾式儲存場所以他們的燃料棒全部放在他們的燃料池裡面就放在那邊就把燃料池當作乾式的當作他的儲存場全部放在那新北市政府13次拒絕核發核一廠乾式儲存場的建造 |
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核二的乾式儲存廠他也十次的怕請打槍因為他都說我擔心我一旦興建了乾性的儲存廠未來這個乾式儲存廠就會變成高階核廢料的最終處理廠所以新北市政府不發 |
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那我跟大家講河山有沒有這樣的問題有一模一樣河山一樣沒有乾式儲存場所以它裡面的燃料棒到目前為止持續在累積中目前看起來存差不多13%23%的空間我跟大家說你說河山延逸10年河山延逸20年騙人的 |
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他只剩十幾趴的空間內讓他再放就繼續把燃料棒放在他的燃料池裡面最多也要放三天所以河山你讓他延熱也是只能放三天除非你還是要有乾式儲存廠的建造你還是要最終處理廠做出一個選址那最終處理廠要放在哪裡台北市買不買剛才小林說科學允許台北市也可以啊 |
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新北要嗎沒有一個地方要最終處理場那我們的河南要怎麼樣去做最終的處理所以國民黨這樣的一個提案他們有提說我要申請研議有民眾黨說只要一到六個月前申請國民黨林佩祥的版本這個百萬中選一還是百中選一這個臨時都沒什麼 |
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只照說要延多久 民眾黨說要延十年 國民黨有說要延二十年我倒延十年 延二十年 你就不干涉儲存廠你比較多的也是延三年所以這個延三年 今天在台灣這個法案有一句成語叫做 飲鴆止渴沒有改過問題 要改過這個問題大爆年大成功就改過了 |
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好 謝謝蔡議員的發言接下來我們請邱毅英委員發言陳廷飛委員請準備 |
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主席各位同仁我已經是今天下午第24位就核官法發言的委員剛剛每一位委員都提到了相當多我們想要問從昨天到現在核官法在昨天的協商提了15個版本今天呢到11點40分呢又再多提了兩個版本 |
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我不知道在待會兒我們表決的時候會不會再有第18個版本出來因為過去很多的表決通常都是在最後一刻又再生出一個新的版本 |
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剛剛我們很仔細的聆聽國民黨委員的談話徐宇峥委員講一句話我非常認同核安是不能打破的底線但是他沒有告訴我們你們提出的這些版本在運轉的方案要如何維繫核能安全 |
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停業後的電廠可以隨時再來運轉嗎原來你們的提案是要處理核三的延益現在變成所有的電廠核能電廠重新要再運轉請問這是你所謂的核安的安全底線嗎 |
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| transcript.whisperx[722].text |
剛剛黃建豪委員提到了我們兩個禮拜前在美國跟美方的商務部的對談提到SMR但是黃建豪委員沒有告訴大家的是美方很清楚的告訴我們SMR在2030之前都不可能運轉 |
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核配料的問題他們也還在尋求解決之道所以翁曉林委員說他可以很負責任的告訴大家最新的科技是可以處理 |
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安全處理核廢料但是他沒有負責任的告訴大家如何安全處理核廢料他常常負責任的講了一些不用負責的話負責任的提了一些不用負責的法案所以我要請教國民黨的委員你們提出的這個核管法的修正案到底你們內部支不支持 |
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屏東人反對核三研議所以我要請教同為屏東人的柯之恩委員你支持核三研議嗎核能的影響不只影響屏東也會影響到高雄未來我們要競選高雄市請問柯之恩委員你如何回去面對高雄市的鄉親呢 |
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我也要問徐宇貞委員你問過侯友宜嗎他同意讓你的核一核二再運轉嗎徐宇貞委員或者是張家俊委員你們的提案你們決定要把核廢料放在哪裡放在你家好嗎你們沒有負責任的告訴大家核廢料要如何 |
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好 謝謝邱益英委員的發言接下來我們請陳婷菲委員發言賴瑞龍委員請準備謝謝院長也謝謝今天所有一起在這裡為了我們台灣的安全努力打拚所有我們民進黨的同仁們 |
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我相信今天我們用那麼多的時間,一個一個發言,因為我們的聲音完全出不去。在核管法的修法居然沒有經過討論,也沒有讓我們很充分了解為什麼國民黨要修這個法。 |
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27003.516 |
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國民黨 你修法的重點在哪裡國民黨 你修法的用意在哪裡國民黨 你修法的目的在哪裡這完全是假議題台灣的安全不能用假議題來操作台灣的安全不能用政治來操作 |
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27027.352 |
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我們知道核三在5月18號就沒有辦法再運作了可是國民黨急著在這個時刻要求強行通過核管法就是要讓大家看到他們要求核三要繼續研議的真面目可是 |
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他們卻在發言的時候掩蓋一切他們說我們修這個法不是針對河山我們修這個法只是要讓我們的未來我們的河電廠的整個運轉有一個討論延長的空間但是河山已經是我們最後的一座河電廠 |
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那請問你們今天修這個法到底用意在哪裡不論是14個版本15個版本16個版本17個版本甚至待會還有更多的版本請問你可以跟我們說你的重點在哪裡嗎你們能夠統合出一個版本嗎沒有 |
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你就是用一個負責任的把台灣的安全完全置之度外你沒有跟我們說安全要怎麼來如果今天研議我們的安全怎麼做卓榮泰院長很清楚跟你說就算這個法過了我們全部都要重新 |
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除役之後再重啟當你重啟需要三年半所有的安全我們都要注意你們到底有聽到 |
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好 謝謝陳廷飛委員的發言接下來我們請賴瑞隆委員發言 林黛樺委員請準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[736].text |
主席各位同仁台灣地震頻繁人口密集土地狹小都使得核能安全的風險遠高於其他的國家任何主張研議核電機組的修法若未明確的提出更嚴格的安全把關與核廢料的處置對策 |
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形同将风险转嫁给全体的国民跟未来的世代这是我们所无法接受的现行的法律规定运转的执照最长年限为40年这是一个基于科学的评估工程的寿命以及国际的标准所定定的一个明确的实现蓝白的立委修正条文竟然 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].start |
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民定屆滿得向主管機關提出申請這形同忽視核電的安全我想請問藍白的立委國務院的生命安全對我們來說最為重要藍白仍要忽視嗎這樣的修法將使核能管制淪為形式極為不當 |
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河山場位於恆春半島距離恆春的斷層僅1.1公里鄰近更有西恆春的挖海斷層馬尼拉 隱墨帶以及淺部的區域鎮園這都是過去建廠的時候沒有掌握到的重大風險此外 |
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核散場也曾發生濱林核災的一個緊急事故早就引發當地居民的一個不安我們應該投資在安全再生可持續能源而不是選擇高風險低彈性的老舊核能設施 |
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| transcript.whisperx[741].text |
過去在草野共識下環境基本法第23條已經明確的規定台灣非核家園的目標既然已經明確的規定了非核家園就應該積極來發展再生能源、能源轉型在太陽光電、風力發電、地熱、海洋能、儲能等持續來進展保障環境永續以及穩定的一個發展 |
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與其在政治上重啟核能的爭議不如更務實地來提升這三年的比例強化電網的韌性跟需求管理這才是符合全球淨零轉型的一個長遠之計我也要提醒核電的研議絕對不是技術上的問題更涉及到社會的信任跟正義 |
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27313.406 |
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27328.028 |
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福島核災之後人民對於核安的議題敏感度極高若未經社會的充分討論就貿然修法開放研議的話勢必引起人民的不安跟社會的爭議因此我呼籲各位同仁 |
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應以國人安全與台灣永續為念審慎面對此次修法的提案我們更應該堅持以非核低碳永續為基礎審慎規劃未來的能源政策這才是優乎國家安全跟世代正義最好的一個價值的選擇希望所有的朝野利盟大家共同來支持不要通過這樣的一個修法謝謝大家 謝謝 |
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27360.174 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].text |
謝謝賴瑞隆委員的發言接下來我們請林黛華委員發言蘇巧慧委員請準備 |
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| transcript.whisperx[746].text |
極端氣候的變化已經在全球各地當地國毀滅性的災害的造成在巴黎會議後全球各經濟體也決議減排目標以遏止地球暖化的狀態台灣在兼顧考量統合了產業狀態人員發展和國家安全的這樣的各方角度下在全國公民支持下達成了減排 |
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| transcript.whisperx[747].text |
非核家園的目標戴華是支持人員自主也同時來降低溫室氣體的排放對高雄人來講八八風災小林村的災情南台灣的百年大旱以及去年連續三個颱風襲擊南台灣都造成我高雄地區的嚴重災情極端氣候對人類的傷害 |
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是我們高雄人最有感觸的一群在特殊地緣的政治下敵對勢力的環市壓迫我國的政策評估需要多方的考量特別像河南電廠這種高風險的 |
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| transcript.whisperx[749].text |
關鍵設施例如核能作業如何在安全的環境作業規則及事後處之下運作都需要高度的專業人員及專家進行整密以及調研才可以做出的政策絕非是國民黨這樣不專業的多數暴力缺乏供聽費 |
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| transcript.whisperx[750].text |
缺乏說明會缺乏核能及電力及地質相關的專業工程的專業評估缺乏有現有核能電廠及核廢料佔準廠的居民的共識缺乏永久儲存核廢料的配套機制只想片面的利用多數暴力意圖做出國家關鍵核安的決議 |
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| transcript.whisperx[751].text |
簡單的講人員安全不是靠擲筊國家及國人的安全是要透過專業的決策過程而不是像國民黨民眾黨這種特定政黨用口號來舉手霸凌謝謝 |
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主席各位同仁等一下我們即將要表決的最有可能被通過的應該就是這個國民黨和民眾黨共同提出的再修正動議核子反應器設施管制法第6條條文的修正草案我在這裡要跟全國的鄉親報告尤其是新北鄉親報告等一下要通過的這個法案他 |
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不是核電研議它是核電重啟因為等一下這個條文的通過新北已經處理的核一和核二有可能會被重啟我就任立法委員以來就是在教文會我們就處理了相當多的這個核能議題我的立場始終一致沒有能力處理核廢料就沒有資格使用核電 |
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所以5月17號也就是再過幾天台灣最後一個核電廠在屏東即將要除役所以國民黨和民眾黨急著在今天用這樣的法案來將核三廠看看是不是能夠研議可是卻沒有想到 |
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最後他們提出的再修正動議版本卻不但是處理研議之外最有可能的是造成已經除役的核電廠重新啟用重新啟用除役的核電廠會是哪裡就是在新北啊是108年已經除役的核一和110年 112年已經除役的核二 |
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所以我很想知道今天國民黨在新北也有六個委員新北的六席國民黨委員你們知道今天最後提出來的這個版本可能造成了新北市廚藝的核電廠要重新啟動 |
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你們贊成嗎你們等一下會投下贊成票嗎你們甚至有沒有了解今天的版本最後提出來放到你桌上你要按下去的是這個版本呢新北市對於核廢料的處置議題一直是相當的頭痛因為 |
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看起來目前台灣並沒有核廢料的最終處置場所以乾除的儲藏場一直會放在新北市這個爭議一直到了去年5月才核定連朱立倫都說核廢不可以永遠放在新北市那麼重啟的核電廠 |
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之後是不是造成繼續更多的核廢放在我們新北北海岸留給新北北海岸的子孫世世代代這樣的問題新北的國民黨黨員國民黨委員你們贊成嗎立法品質的低落就是因為像這樣突襲式的提出法案造成的新北的國民黨委員我們看你等一下怎麼表決怎麼投票 |
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謝謝蘇巧慧委員發言接下來我們請張宏祿委員發言黃婕委員請準備 |
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各位委員同仁今天我們在討論這個問題我相信核能的問題在台灣本來就有支持跟反對的立場但對核能安全我相信全國的人都有一次沒有核能的安全哪來核電我們想 |
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台灣的河一、河二、河三都是上一個世紀的產物據河山為例從1985年到現在已經運作了40年了大家想一想台灣是地震代超過30年的房子都可以申請危老重建了一個超過40年的工廠 |
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你覺得它是一個好的工廠嗎是上個世紀研究的廠物而且運作了40年今天在沒有任何安全的評估之下就這樣子隨便的說要再繼續研議我個人認為 |
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再怎麼政治立場的對立都不能拿台灣2300萬人的安全跟財產拿去賭試想我們如果去問誰要賭這個40年的一個核電機組你還要沒有安全的評估然後繼續用我相信這大家都不會支持而且是一個非常危險的一個動作 |
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而且今天如果這個法案修正通過了不是只有河山我們新北市的河一河二也可以根據這個來申請重新運轉各位我身為新北市的立法委員我必須為我們新北市四百萬的人民我必須要在這邊替他們發聲 |
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我認為一個40幾年前的產物已經不符合現在的安全需求 |
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如果你真的要重啟要經過大家審慎的討論而不是這樣子急救張然後呢通過一個法條然後把全台灣2300萬人的安全跟所有人民的財產拿下去做一個隨便的賭注所以我在這邊我還是必須要很沉重的呼籲在這個 |
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時刻不應該衝突處理這個法案我們應該延後再議慢慢的討論才對 |
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好 現場所有的委員朋友還有我們在收看這個直播的所有的公民朋友 大家午安大家好在這邊我必須要先講這個核管法的修法的過程一樣是過水式的協商一樣是到了最後一刻才提出了一個最高機密版本在此之前甚至國民黨的版本有多達15個那甚至還有 |
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再改上去還有再加兩個那到現在之後我們看到的是照這個版本通過很可能不只合三連合一合二都有可能在除以後又重啟 |
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那目前看到提案的版本的委員 包括徐巧欣 包括林沛翔請問徐巧欣的選民 松信的選民 你們同意嗎請問基隆的選民 你們同意嗎如果不同意 拜託你們支持大罷免拜託請把你們選區這樣 罔顧人民安全的立法委員下架 |
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我必須要說在這個核三廠在四天之後也就是5月17號就即將除役了滿40年40年運轉已經是一部非常老舊的核電廠故障的風險也大幅的上升 |
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甚至在2013年其實核三廠就已經發生過外電系統喪失功能的事件那當時依照國際的核能的事故分級是一級的事件那2015年其實又再次發生廠內的火災然後也讓人非常的擔心這些事故不斷的在發生甚至核三廠就緊鄰在火斷層帶一旦發生地層的錯動後果完全不堪設想結果 |
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現在國民黨民眾黨聯手在沒有討論任何核安風險如何防範的情況下沒有討論任何最終核廢料如何處置的情況下就要草率的把這個過水嗜血傷最高機密版的版本在這裡表決通過 |
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我不知道所有台灣的公民看到這麼草率的罔顧人民生命安全甚至不顧人民這個最終核廢料討論的這樣子的一個版本做何感想對於這樣子的立法品質大家做何感想 |
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所以希望這些核安的問題、核廢的問題已經討論很久了但是在這些問題沒有辦法解決之前絕對不能貿然的在這裡做下決定所以希望這個核電點研議不是一個隨便修改法條就可以解決的問題必須要非常科學、理性、務實的討論 |
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甚至曾經的黃國昌在擔任系指的立委的時候也說他絕對反對沒有第二句話所以拜託所有的公民看清楚等等提案如果同意的委員罷免他 |
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好 謝謝 |
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各位今天如果是討論食安法有一個食品冷凍食品他標示保存期限快要到了那我們討論來幫他改標籤和能一樣我們也重視和安 |
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河山廠河山廠的期限40年從1985年到現在2025年已經在下週就要滿40年我們今天要來討論40年要不要加20年換過來是食安的話你會害怕那如果是河安你不害怕嗎而且 |
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在這個國民黨加民眾黨再修正動議裡面不是只有核三廠要再二十年喔是連核一核二已經封存已經沒有再運作核一核二都可以再提出申請喔 |
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我不知道這一個再修正動議的版本國民黨台北市跟新北市的委員們怎麼可能可以按下同意票我不知道等一下我等著看沒有核能安全就不會有核能發電一個運轉40年 |
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已經快要到期的核電廠要經過修法來取代所有的技術我覺得這個是非常危險的第二個核一核二廠到現在核二廠的這些核廢料還在原子喔新北市還沒有核定核二廠這些高階核廢料的儲藏室 |
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的建築使用執照喔何況核三廠也還沒有解決第一個沒有核安不會有核電第二個核廢料在還沒有討論好確定好之前也不會有核能發電也不會有還要再延續的討論難道我們不能再做再詳細一點的討論取得社會共識之後 |
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用大家討論的方式來做這一個討論嗎沒有辦法國民黨跟民眾黨只想要急著用人數的多數來強行表決這一個議案來 |
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合理化他們不同意我們行政院要撥補台電一千億的這個預算他們只想要發兩千三百億現金來避免他們被大罷免大家要看清楚好謝謝李博義委員的發言接下來我們請陳素月委員發言許智傑委員請準備 |
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院長還有各位委員各位全國的鄉親大家午安我們知道在現行的核磁反應器設施管制法第六條條文中規定核磁反應器的運轉執照的有效期限最長就是40年期滿需繼續運轉的話經營者應在英語主管機關規定的期限內申請換發執照這樣的規定是有它的科學的依據的 |
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今天南白主导这个核子反应器设施管制法第六条条文的修正草案增订主管机关不得以借其实现为由拒绝换发申请就是要让这个运转执照的换发不受执法核子反应器设施运转执照申请审核办法第十六条的规定在执照有效期限届满前的五年到十五年进行换照申请之限制 |
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今天河山廠就要在5月17號就是4天之後依法來處理所以今天這個藍白倉促的提出這樣子的一個修法實在是過於草率而且是漠視這個河冷的一個安全我們知道河天廠在設計之初他很多的一個設備的一個設計的壽命就是40年雖然部分的管線或者是電纜是可以更換但是反應爐的壓力容器與這個水泥為主體等核心的設施 |
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是無法替換的這些設備的老舊它的核能的一個風險才是我們最擔心的所以今天藍白若不顧這些風險貿然就是進行這樣子的一個修法要來進行重啟核電 |
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就是對核災風險的一個放任是一個很不負責任的一個做法那我們也回顧過去馬政府時期也曾經推動核一的這個研議歷經七年的審查仍無法完成最終申請撤回所以在這邊我要來請問國民黨跟民眾黨以為核電的安全是可以這樣子快速的通過嗎而且我們也知道台灣就是一個地下人頭地震頻傳的一個地方 |
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禁不起这样子的一个核电的一个事故所以书悦在这边请问全国的乡亲在核电厂已经运转达40年设备老旧了还没有经过这个全盘性的一个盘点跟检视也没有经过安全的强化跟耐震补强之下就来贸然的重启你放心吗我们要冒这样子的一个风险吗 |
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再來這個國民黨跟民眾黨一再的用電價上漲來威脅在這邊書也要告訴大家一個數據就在剛剛今天下午整個核電核能的一個發電的一個數據是佔電力的2.76%在2024年整年的核電核能發電比例也是4.7%所以核能發電在5月17號停止後也不可能造成電價的上漲今天電價如果上漲 |
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好 謝謝主席 大家好我們 |
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核電主要核廢料核安全全民共識跟南北平衡的問題那國民黨其實都是在做假球這幾年來國民黨都跟工商界說他們要核電我們核三廠我們的核管法規定你在到期前5年到15年你就要提出申請你看國民黨當時有提出意見嗎 |
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當時沒有講說要研議現在才臨時爆火腳說任何時間都可以提出所以表示這幾年來他們表面上好像說要延長要研議但是事實上都是騙大家再來你看新北的核廢料核四乾式儲存廠侯友宇也一直到去年才同意動工那這個還要到115年才完成而且這只針對核二那 |
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這些核二廢料如果將來包括核一核二核三這些核廢料國民黨都可以接受嗎新北市你們的核一核二你們都要同意再研議嗎那我們核三包括屏東的盧憲一蘇清泉台東的黃建斌尤其是高雄的柯之恩你同意嗎 |
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| transcript.whisperx[798].text |
這些問題事實上我們就顯示出國民黨其實都只是在做假球那我們的核廢料其實到現在還沒有辦法解決所以核廢問題沒有辦法解決這就是核安問題 |
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我們要5到15年前才開始提出申請就可以提出申請國民黨沒有申請現在臨時爆火腳已經用了40年了那你5年之前如果提出申請的話要如何調整內部要如何解決問題要如何做機械設備的維修跟整理 |
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將來可以繼續來研議這些都必須科學來處理而國民黨現在臨時提出來甚至也剝奪我們討論的機會所以我們從頭到尾國民黨這個核電支持其實都只是假議題現在為了因應大罷免時代所以故意提出這個問題 |
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讓工商界好像以為說他們支持用電量夠那剛剛也有委員提到我們台電撥補的這個一千億國民黨還是自始自終不接受所以我認為我們所有的全民不要被國民黨騙了第一個他們贊成要核電其實五年前不提出來新北市幹事組長不同意這個其實表示他們實質上心裡並沒有真正的贊成而只是做表面功夫第二個 |
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他現在故意用這個一千億我們要撥補台電他故意來阻擋所以請大家支持大罷免支持大罷免 謝謝 |
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各位公民朋友午安我相信韓國瑜院長跟我一樣現在感到非常無奈就在民進黨委員每一個人都上台針對地區的關心針對核安的關心針對核廢料的關心針對社會的共識的關心提出自己看法的同時在我們的左手邊國民黨委員的席位空空如也只有幾個少數的委員到場 |
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但我想他们可能还是不敢上台发言发表他们的言论至于他们为什么不敢发表相关的言论我想就是因为所有人对他们提出来的问题他们都没有办法回答更让人感到荒谬的是国民党不讲科学国民党没有良心甚至国民党的教人委员会的召委葛如君委员 |
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他還用過水式的協商認為沒有共識而沒有共識的原因非常簡單就是你們不願意聽人民的聲音你們不願意聽科學家專家的建議你們也不願意聽公民團體的抗議你們什麼都不聽你們就只聽你們自己的 |
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如果你們這麼在意自己的想法那我也就可能可以相信你們會有更好的版本但非常可惜的是在今天要進行表決到早上11點多我們拿到的版本卻是一個可以重啟已經停止 |
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營運的核電廠我不知道國民黨委員民眾黨委員你們背後有什麼樣的科學家你們背後有什麼樣的公民團體你們背後有什麼樣的利益團體在支持你們的論述在支持你們的看法在支持你們的沒有良心沒有專業我想 |
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之所以講這麼多是因為民進黨委員已經告訴大家核廢料的問題沒有解決核能安全沒有共識社會討論還需要聚焦的情況下你們依然顧我所以大家才要喊出大罷免大成功 |
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我怕他們沒有聽清楚大罷免大成功之所以可以拿來對付所有不顧民意不顧專業罔顧社會討論的國民黨委員就是因為他們根本不在意民意所以講了這麼多我才會說韓國瑜院長跟我 |
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一樣感到無奈他坐在上面他可能在想民進黨講這麼多國民黨也都沒來聽是要講給誰聽講給空氣聽講給貴聽但是都沒辦法講給國民黨聽這就是我們現在的國會這就是我們台灣現在的民主但是因為我不是那1%的經營人士等到有一天我可能 |
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29610.132 |
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一輩子都沒有辦法聽懂1%的人的意見因為我們才能代表台灣民意而台灣民意99%你們都不聽謝謝陳培宇委員的發言接下來何新淳委員發言完畢之後我們院會將會處理延長開會時間請何新淳委員發言 |
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主席 各位委員 今天非常遺憾我們看到突然要討論修正核管法 要讓核電廠研議我們聽不到專業的討論 更沒有充分周延的討論過程而在野黨就要挾持人數的多優勢 要強行來通過非常遺憾 也非常心痛 |
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我們現在社會對台灣能源議題當然有眾多的討論科技也在進步行政院卓榮泰院長更在去年10月就曾表示過在技術安全沒有核廢料問題社會高度共識的三個前提之下我們可以來討論先進新式核能發電如剛剛提到的SMR |
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29705.001 |
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但是眾所皆知以目前的技術即使再怎麼進步我們當然期待SMR在2030年前不太可能上轉因此在國內社會大眾還沒有形成共識之前我們今天就要倉促且片段式的修法讓核電廠來研議我想我們仍要面對核廢料如何處理以及核電廠的安全問題 |
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以目前核廢料處理的技術以及最終處置廠仍然有困難的情況之下還有很多很多需要面對的解決面對的困難已經處理的核一核二的核廢料到現在仍然沒有辦法完全處理完更何況還有今年五月就要退役除役的核三廠的核廢料這些核廢料何去何從那我們又要花多少的 |
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資源多少的經費還有依賴現行的技術如何來處理這麼龐大的核廢料這個是我們要三思而生思的所以呢在核廢料問題還沒有辦法解決在核能技術還沒有完全先進現在就要開始來修核管法要將核電廠40年延誼到60年這相關的安全檢測也不是像修理檢查汽車那麼簡單 |
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所以呢核電廠除役之後要重啟的安全檢測這在台灣過去是從沒有過完全沒經驗相關的重啟程序安全檢測還有呢我們現行台灣的地質地層以及地震帶的影響及威脅等等這些都是問題甚至呢已經40年非常老舊的 |
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核電廠設備也就算要更新可能也買不到零件配備了所以我再強調一次核安是不能妥協的安全還是讓我們臺灣子孫代代相傳唯一的道路這是我們的責任所以我請在野黨大家要深思三思在行謝謝各位謝謝何新淳委員的發言抱怨會 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].start |
29816.857 |
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29842.11 |
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我們本次會議沒有委員提出臨時提案不進行臨時提案之處理現有台灣民眾黨團國民黨團分別針對本日會議5月13日提出延長開會時間至討論事項第21案處理完畢再行散會請問院會有無異議沒有異議我們現在做以下宣告本日會議5月13日延長開會時間至討論事項 |
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| transcript.whisperx[820].end |
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第21案處理完畢再行散會接下來我們請林郡縣委員發言王振旭委員請準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[821].text |
謝謝主席本院各位同仁我們今天提這個核管法的修法表面上說是以台灣缺電為藉口事實上就算今天這個法律通過台灣唯一的一台核能發電機核三二號機也必須在本週六停機 |
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因為他的執照到期了所以本週六5月17號也可以說台灣就開始進入零核能的時代了那你現在這個法例只是讓台電可以提出再申請但台電說啊 國際上他找不到執照到期以後再申請有任何一個前例 |
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因為通常核能廠都會像台灣規定這樣在執照到期前幾年一定時間你就必須要提出再延長執照的申請像這種執照已經直接到期了本週六就要到期了國民黨今天提這個法案那意義在哪裡而且台電如何提出再申請你再申請的程序規範是核安會來定的 |
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29973.009 |
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也就是說,你如果要再再申請,你要經過什麼樣的安裝檢查程序,哪些零件、管線、扶養符合什麼樣的標準現在我們沒有這個配套法,你沒有這個執法嘛,所以台電是怎麼提債申請,他也不懂啦國民黨在修法的時候,完全沒有使用事業單位台電的意見進來,自己亂修亂蓋啦 |
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| transcript.whisperx[825].end |
30000.972 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].text |
好啦 就算啦 你通過以後啦台電估計啦 最少三年起跳才有可能啦 台灣再有核能發電機可以發電那只是可能而已喔我認為這個根本很困難第一個 你要安全無虞才可能執照再延期那什麼叫確保安全無虞這核安衛沒有任何的標準因為他現在沒有訂出來 |
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30017.406 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].text |
40天直接告去之後 要怎麼再延期台灣現在沒有這樣的一個安全審查標準等於核安會要再訂出這樣的標準我不知道訂得出來訂不出來他說國際沒有這樣的從來沒有任何一個核電廠有這種狀況 |
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| transcript.whisperx[827].text |
而且今天台灣唯一的一台核能發電機核三二號機總發電量只有百分之二點多台灣今天的備轉運量最高超過二十趴有超過二十趴所以這一台只有佔兩趴多這跟缺電有什麼關係就算缺電是民進黨的責任民進黨不能讓他缺電會比你國民黨更緊張 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].start |
30048.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].end |
30053.422 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].text |
民進黨的執政台要更負責嘛那哪輪到你這樣亂修法那要後悔改勒 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].start |
30079.571 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].end |
30108.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].text |
主席各位國人同胞各位同仁昨天晚上全國肺核行動平台號召公民們在立院周邊集結關注本次核管法的修法包含地球公民基金會台灣人權促進會等多個公民團體的代表齊聚共同對於本次的倉促修法明確表達高度的憂心與反對 |
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30109.571 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].end |
30127.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].text |
事實上現況對於高階核廢料的處理目前暫存於核電廠裡面的量能已經趨於滿載此外對於未來最終處置的廠址懸地也還沒有明確的方向甚至是法源依據也都還在法制化的階段顯見 |
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| transcript.whisperx[831].end |
30153.067 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].text |
高階核廢料的處置現況上已經是一大的問題對於土壤、空氣、水源等環境以及對人體健康皆可能造成重大的風險與危害所以老舊核電廠如果繼續研議相關的風險恐將持續攀升另外重啟老舊核電廠所涉及的安全風險也不容忽視 |
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30154.481 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].end |
30177.243 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].text |
核三廠自1985年啟用到現在已經運轉了將近40年我們要讓一座即將退休的核電機組在沒有經過完整的環評、地方溝通、民意基礎的情況下緩聘上工嗎?這不只是能源問題,更是技術問題最後我想跟國人還有同仁們分享一個故事 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].start |
30178.656 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].end |
30186.064 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].text |
2015年諾貝爾文學獎得主亞利塞維奇他有一本非常重要的著作叫做《車諾比的悲鳴》裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].start |
30187.864 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[834].text |
有一邊就是紀錄一位消防員的妻子當時她已經懷孕了她先生是特諾比核災後第一批進去搶救的消防員因為被輻射嚴重的侵蝕到她的皮膚跟身體最後持續衰落到死亡這個過程讓我們看到這位消防員的妻子 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[835].end |
30238.485 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].text |
最後想要擁抱他自己的先生都無法如願因為他先生的皮膚太過太過脆弱了而且很擔心這個孕婦的母子會不會有被輻射污染的風險所以不管是車諾比或者是福島一旦發生核災第一時間搶救的這些救災人員都會可能發生嚴重的死傷同時無論是在新北或者是屏東萬一發生核災我們有足夠的疏散速度跟交通量能嗎如果無法有效疏散 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].start |
30239.025 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].end |
30263.996 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].text |
不只是土地附近的居民也都會受到嚴重的生命衝擊因此在無法有效避免這些風險之前我們應該反對重啟老舊核電的這個研議最後我呼籲各位委員目前國內大眾對於核電廠研議或重啟還有不同的意見應該要暫緩核管法的刪讀目前我們要做的是啟動真正的公開透明專業的 |
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30282.051 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].end |
30287.193 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].text |
謝謝王振旭委員的發言接下來請黃秀芳委員發言林淑芬委員請準備 |
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30294.588 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[838].text |
主席各位同仁今天我們要等一下也許會表決我們核管法那在這邊核三廠二號機在這個本週六就要停機除役那國民黨跟民眾黨在除役前通過這個核管法的修法要搶在這個除役之前要來通過那研議的期限國民黨最終版本是定20年 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[839].end |
30350.675 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].text |
那我們看到國民黨聲稱這個版本已經跟民眾黨有達成協議那我認為應該是要跟社會大眾達成協議才對核能是否能夠研議是一個嚴肅的政策問題國會在沒有共識之下社會怎麼會有共識那更不應該為了表決而表決核能要安全要有三個前提第一分別是社會有沒有共識第二核能安全要確保 |
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| transcript.whisperx[840].end |
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以及核廢料處置要有最佳的解方那這三個條件都必須要滿足我們才有繼續使用核能的本錢如果沒有滿足這些條件只會讓國人的安全出現疑慮國民黨為了研議而研議絕對會影響到國家的安全另外我也要在這邊特別重申 |
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老舊的核電風險非常的高那核電廠的安全檢查跟我們一般的老舊汽車的檢查不一樣它需要經過非常多的安全體檢包括這個核電廠附近的地質地震帶是不是有影響那用了40年的核電廠是否要更新設備那這個設備這個40年前的這些設備現在是不是可以買得到 |
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那這些都需要評估跟研議那第二我們所有的核電廠都是位取在這個鄰近的這斷層帶尤其核三廠恆春斷層直接經過核三廠的門口那萬一如果發生核災的話台灣地狹人稠疏散困難 |
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再來就是核廢料最終的處置完全沒有解方我知道很多人對於尤其國民黨跟民眾黨今天希望這個核管法盡快通過那我們現在的核廢料的處置到現在還是無解我們看到目前不論是核一核二核三所有的這個高階的核廢料都是直接儲存在核電廠裡面 |
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那我們也看到核電廠發電用過的這個燃料棒是高階的核廢料需要從爐心取出在冷卻池靜置十年那現在我們目前所有的核電廠的冷卻池裡面的燃料棒都已經爆滿了所以沒有核能安全就沒有核電我們希望所有的同事委員同事 |
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院長 各位大家午安 |
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非常令人遺憾的藍白兩黨不負責任的提出核管法的修法企圖讓運作40年借其停役的核電機組有重啟的法律依據這個修法著重在放寬研議的程序鬆動執照換發的門檻卻刻意忽略了台灣核電廠設備老舊老化的現實自然環境變遷還有國際安全標準不斷提升的重大變因有有甚則 |
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現行法案草率的將研議作為政策選項卻對於核反應爐裡面壓力容器催化這類核心問題避而不談壓力容器是反應爐最關鍵的結構一旦老化催化無論其他零件如何汰換都無法保證整體運作的安全作為最高民意機關的立委諸公們如果你無視核能設施運轉背後的結構性風險 |
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只以可再運轉作為政治標語倉促的推動核能電廠的嚴厲修法無疑是將國人的安危作為政治籌碼拿核能安全開玩笑這絕對不是一個行政程序的更新而已更是一場牽涉到結構科學環境風險評估還有社會成本管理的全面考驗事實上核電廠嚴厲並不等於繼續安全運 |
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運作即使核電機組持續的進行定期維護仍難以解決根本性的設備老化的問題所以原因在於核電設施內部有許多的結構性元件無法開換或替換例如反應爐壓力容器消防管道電纜電線及鋼鐵混凝土為主體等等這些設備會因為長時間暴露在輻射熱硬力化學腐蝕等環境中逐漸劣化 |
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最終無法保障原有的強度和密度科學界普遍都用浴缸曲線來描述核電機組的安全風險的分佈所以許多重大的核災像車諾堡事件三民島事件還有包括福島核災它就是發生在U型曲線的磨合期 |
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還有最後的這個磨損期絕對不是偶然如果我國沒有謹慎的處理核電廠運轉壽命的議題反而強行研議老舊機組無意識主動影響風險上升的磨損區區段對台灣社會會造成難以承受的潛在災難核電的風險也不只是來自於機組本身還有包括自然環境的變遷我們都知道 |
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福島核災就是地震之後引起海嘯海嘯之後引起全黑事件福島核災已經證明核災不是會不會發生的問題而是發生時我們能不能承擔的問題了所以在這裡 |
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謝謝林淑芬委員的發言接下來我們請劉建國委員發言吳思瑤委員請準備 |
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主席 歷任各位同仁我想老舊核電廠的嚴厲或重啟的風險誰來負責誰能負責然後誰等一下要投下這樣的一個震撼彈自己政治之路的震撼彈因為 |
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立法院在野黨今天又要粗暴 蠻好詳情通過核管法的第二條修正草案替屏東縣已經40年的核三長再延至60年運作40噸的核三長要延60噸等於是在增加延長二分之一的這樣的運作量能這個對一個老舊的核電廠它是否能夠承受得起 |
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而且完全不顧屏東縣居民的安全甚至於已經屬意的合一合夥都可能有機會在這次的修法中來做重啟我想依據國際標準核電廠在研議前應該完成結構耐震安全系統地質風險與高階核微料處置等全面評估 |
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當初屏東的核產廠就是以40年的標準來興建如果在沒有完整的安全評估及作用的營運之下冒然再延長這連線我想不只是屏東縣民的安全甚至是整個南台灣民眾的安全到底是誰來負責在議黨今天一直說全民支持核能嚴厲根據到底是什麼是因為這個法案的過程中有問過屏東在地的民眾有問過南台灣在地的民眾嗎 |
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甚至未來 合一合二要再重啟的時候雙北的民眾 雙北的市長會同意嗎高官林署委員 我想他有足夠的分量也要代表新北市的市民來做這樣的反應你們都有問過嗎不然 你們怎麼敢做出這樣的決定而且 我的故鄉來自雲林但是 出外最大宗的第二故鄉是在新北有問過嗎 |
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所以我今天希望大家正視這個問題誰要在自己的政治路上投下這樣的震撼彈誰就必須要承載起這樣的責任民進黨執政之後2016年正式提出能源轉型政策宣布2025年非核家園當時是獲得近六成的民眾的認可也因此在九年期間民進黨政府一直負責任的朝向這個目標來進行 |
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老舊核電廠視我嚴厲要回歸到專業針對這周四十年的核電廠安全問題全面檢視務實討論並尊重在地民眾聲音絕對不要再用粗暴蠻力的手法進行表決讓政治凌駕在專業之上民進黨無一針對堅決反對老舊核電廠的嚴厲守護台灣堅決到底謝謝 劉建國委員發言 |
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歡迎我們最後一位登記發言吳思瑤委員請發言主席各位同仁 |
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馬上就要表決核管法了今天有11位藍白的立委上台發言但是沒有理性沒有務實更沒有科學只有不負責任的一派胡言藍白只會霸王硬上弓因為表決你們會贏凡事表決就好表決很簡單只要按下按鈕但是政策責任的承擔卻是無比的艱難 |
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排案的召委葛如君說有能源安全才有國家安全聽起來很有道理但是葛委員沒有說的是如果這個能源本身就不安全呢國民黨會負責嗎 |
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民眾黨的江啟凱以及國民黨的汪小林委員都說現在世界已經有新興科技可以處理核廢料了但是你們沒有說到底怎麼處理為什麼不說呢 |
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全世界目前能够处理高阶核废料的只有一个国家叫做芬兰民进党因为重视特别指派了范云跟林祖英两位委员前往实地考察为什么芬兰可以台湾有困难因为芬兰地广人稀没有地震没有台风 |
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地質條件允許而且芬蘭也花了50年跟在地的居民溝通才獲得社會的共識台灣目前連低階核廢料的最終處置公投沒有半個地方政府敢舉辦 |
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而要修核管法另一個重要的配套修法是高低階核廢料的選址條例為什麼國民黨民眾黨不敢來審查呢修法只修一半只修你們要的就是詐騙全台灣我也要說全世界目前沒有任何一個核電廠除疫後又重啟的案例沒有就是沒有 |
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即使美國目前有兩個核電廠可能要重啟一個在密西根州一個在賓州但是目前兩個案子在美國都沒有通過聯邦州以及地方政府的許可美國的國會更不會像台灣的立法院一樣先霸王硬上弓來修法 |
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今天強度關山的核管法國會有15個版本但是討論不充分協商又過水如果連國會都沒有共識社會怎麼會有共識呢藍白想當詐騙集團民進黨拒絕當共犯民進黨反對二修核管法民進黨反對把災難留給後代子孫 |
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所以大家一起來按下反對的按鈕謝謝 |
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國民黨黨團、台灣民眾黨黨團共同提案在修正動議第六條核子反應器設施興建完成後非經營主管經關審核其中期安全分析報告興建期間之檢查改善結果及系統功能試驗合格不得裝填核子燃料裝填核子燃料後非經營主管經關審核其功率試驗合格並發給運轉執照不得正式運轉前向運轉執照是有效期間最長為40年 |
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期滿需繼續運轉者經營者得於執照有效期間屆滿前向主管警官申請換發執照未依規定換發執照者不得繼續運轉運轉執照有效期間屆滿後需再繼續運轉者經營者得向主管警官申請經主管警官確認盒子反應器設施無安全顧慮並 |
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審核同意換發執照後 使得繼續運轉運轉執照之合法及換發 準用前條第一項各款規定換發之運轉執照 其有效期間自執照生效日起算最長為二十年其申請應備文件審核程序及其他應遵形式上這辦法由主管機關定之宣讀完畢 |
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我們現在進行處理我們現在開始按鈴7分鐘並分發表決卡現在開始按鈴 |
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好 報院會我們現在是不是每位委員都有拿到表決卡好 我們現在依序進行表決其中任何一案通過我們不再處理其他案現在表決國民黨團 台灣民眾黨黨團共同所提再修正動議現在有民進黨團 台灣民眾黨黨團要求記名表決 |
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我們記名表決贊成國民黨團台灣民眾黨黨團再修正動議請按贊成反對請按反對時間一分鐘現在開始 |
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報告院會報告表決結果在場委員出席111位贊成61位反對50位贊成者多數報告院會現由民進黨黨團體重複表決我們現在進行重複表決贊成請按贊成反對請按反對時間一分鐘現在開始 |
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外院會報告重複表決結果出席委員111位贊成61位反對50位贊成者多數我們第六條照國民黨團台灣民眾黨團共同所提再修正動議條文通過 |
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報議會我們全案已經經過二讀現有國民黨團台灣民眾黨黨團提議繼續進行三讀請問院會有無異議沒有異議我們現在請宣讀經過二讀這條文 |
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第六條 核子反應器設施興建完成後飛機主管機關審核其中期安全分析報告興建期間之檢查改善結果及系統功能試驗合格不得裝填核子燃料裝填核子燃料後飛機主管機關審核其功率試驗合格並發給運轉執照不得暫時運轉前向運轉執照之有效期間最長為40年 |
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期滿需繼續運轉者經營者等於執照有效期間屆滿前向主管機關申請換發執照為依規定換發執照者不得繼續運轉運轉執照有效期間屆滿後需再繼續運轉者經營者得向主管機關申請經由主管機關確認核子反應器設施無安全顧慮並審核同意換發執照後使得繼續運轉 |
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運轉執照之合法及換發准用前條為第一項更換規定換發之運轉執照其有效期間自執照生效日起算最長為20年其申請應備文件審核程序及其他應遵刑事上之辦法由主管機關定之宣讀完畢辦委會林楚英委員發布聲明對剛才表決與民進黨黨團意見一致我們列入公報記錄 |
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我們三讀條文已經宣讀完畢請問院會有文字修正沒有文字修正 |
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現在我們要進行全案之表決現有民進黨黨團要求記名表決我們記名表決時間一分鐘贊成請按贊成 反對請按反對現在開始 |
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報告表決結果,出席111位,贊成60位,反對51位,贊成者多數沒有重複表決報告表決現在有民進黨黨團要求重複表決我們現在進行重複表決,贊成請按贊成,反對請按反對,時間一分鐘,現在開始 |
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歡迎會報告重複表決結果出席111位贊成60位反對51位贊成者多數全案表決通過歡迎會現在我們做以下決議核子反應器設施管制法第六條條文修正通過歡迎會現在本院傅坤祺委員等人針對本案三讀之決議提出復議 |
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並請院會隨即表決處理報告院會現在我們來進行處理本件的附議案現在進行表決針對富坤齊委員等人所提附議案現有民進黨黨團要求記名表決贊成 |
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副坤祺委員 副議案贊成 請案贊成反對 請案反對時間一分鐘 現在開始 |
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抱怨會報告表決結果出席110人贊成51人反對59人反對者多數抱怨會現有民進黨黨團提議要求重複表決我們現在進行重複表決贊成請按贊成反對請按反對時間一分鐘現在開始 |
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報告委員現在宣布重複表決結果拜託各位委員請保持一場的秩序我們出席111位贊成51位反對60位贊成則少數附議案不通過報告院會我們現在 |
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进行三读完成立法程序后委员登记发言我们并截止登记首先请林怡景委员发言范云委员请准备 |
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主席,各位同仁,藍白兩黨罔顧核安,在人數優勢下強行透過核管法修法,為老舊核電廠重啟解套。藍白不僅修法的手段拙劣,而且對於台灣核能發展基礎知識毫無概念,簡直把核能安全棄之不顧。 |
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在台灣正式進入非核家園前四天,永和勢力結合藍白立委,硬是要延長老舊核電廠的使用年限。我就問,這跟無良廠商隨便圖改過期食品效期,繼續在市場上兜售有什麼兩樣? |
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國民黨跟民眾黨的提案不只法律文字有問題就連修法過程也分明是在向社會大眾表演藍白立委的賭職好好審查法案只不過是立委的本分這是不分黨派的立場民眾都會同意的但是偏偏藍白立委就是做不到 |
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面對大罷免民意反撲還可以這麼傲慢套一句戰鬥懶的話就是沒有在怕罷免的啦自從十一屆立委上任以來我相信許多民進黨委員都跟我有相同的感受那就是國民黨跟民眾黨不斷在造勢逃逸我們民進黨立委總是在事故現場收拾殘局 |
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從國會擴權的抗爭到釋憲到藍白爛散國家預算各部會施政的摯愛難行一路走到藍白聯手放水和安都是這樣你們藍白都已經過半難道 |
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通過自己想要的修法版本也只不過是時間的問題連這種時間跟心力你們都不願意付出只想用最快的速度來惡搞台灣我想要告訴藍白立委這裡是民主台灣不是獨裁中國你們上任以來一票一票的草率表決到最後一定會一票一票把你們拉下台的罷免投票 |
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謝謝林益勤委員的發言接下來我們請范雲委員發言郭育群委員請準備 |
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剛剛有一位國民黨的委員上台講說如果不通過今天的第六條修正才會是能源的國安問題我請他自己看一下核安會的網站1949年日內瓦公約就寫到即使核能設施是軍事目標 |
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也不應成為攻擊的對象因為這種攻擊可能引起危險力量的釋放從而對平民造成嚴重的損失但是請問真實世界中的俄羅斯真實世界中的中共會遵守日內瓦公約嗎當然不會 |
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就在去年4月联合国国际原子能总署IAEA警告乌克兰最大的核电厂遭到无人机攻击并且他们在联合国安全理事会要求这些鲁莽的攻击必须立即停止即使反应炉关闭发生重大事故的风险仍然存在 |
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也是因为核电的特性是弹性差无法快速的启停容易成为敌方攻击的目标战前乌克兰的核电占比高达55%战争爆发之后乌克兰的政府立刻转向发展分散式的能源系统部署小型发电机跟太阳能就是希望能够提供能源韧性而且保护国土的安全 |
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我們跟相比事實上核酸重啟斷層段沒有改變核廢料沒有改變唯一改變的就是國安風險越來越高以及經濟的成本我想今天我們可以看到從核廢料遞層段 |
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到戰爭風險藍白到現在沒有給我們全民專業的回答只會指鹿為馬宣稱這是世界趨勢我想只有藍白的傲慢藍白的粗暴藍白的不顧國安只有人民可以教訓該罷就罷大罷免大成功好謝謝范雲委員的發言接下來郭玉琴委員發言張啟凱文請準備 |
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主席各位委員非常的遺憾我們剛剛看到了一個粗暴的結果完全不顧專業的審查罔顧社會的對話程序正義也毫不重視所以剛剛我們通過了 |
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核三的演繹同時還要重啟我再次的強調不要用立法來架空核安的一個專業剛剛我們一直都在講安全是首要的條件三黨其實本來都有共識但是我們看到在昨天的協商這個過水的協商當中他們安全是用嘴巴喊的 |
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直接用嘴巴喊安全難道就能夠保證河能是安全的嗎每一個人的版本又不一樣到底要硬推無視河安的管制把風險轉嫁到我們的下一代另外我剛剛其實已經提到過了如果我們要來重啟其實光是台電出估 |
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未來就要花三年半的時間要來仔細的討論而目前台灣沒有重啟相關的經驗不要講台灣全世界也沒有如果發生了地震誰負責老舊的設備誰要來做更新到底這些安全是用嘴巴喊出來就可以嗎另外核廢料到底要放置在哪裡高放長紙整個所有的這個放置的條例也沒有進展 |
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這個在監察院2022年都已經提出報告了台電在2014年出國光是研議就要花費將近580億轉眼之間11年過去了如果還要再考慮所謂的研議或者是重啟整個所有的成本要上看7000億誰來買單 中國人民買單嗎何非要放哪裡 有問過屏東人嗎有問過新北人嗎 |
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這麼不尊重 大罷免大成功 |
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核管法的修正從第九屆的立法委員也是八年前就開始討論了台灣民眾黨也在去年就提出修法了委員會經過了多次的討論也開了公聽會了可是無能的民進黨一路擺爛 |
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一路到造謠直到今天連一個對岸都沒有行政院板也沒有而且一路的這個杯葛就像井底之蛙一樣一路造謠明明世界的趨勢都在返回核能美國 |
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日本、法國、全世界比較先進國家都已經把40年的核電廠延長到60年今天剛剛通過了不就是這樣的條文嗎民進黨像井底之蛙、艾狼之大還在污名化核電說我們的核電廠是不安全的我跟他報告台灣從河一、河二、河三都是模範生 |
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國際的原子能總署做過評比我們是全世界第六名包括核廢料剛剛提的連AIT的處長最近三次發言都說美國願意幫我們台灣包括核廢料的處理我要特別強調民進黨不只一路擺亂造謠 |
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今天的條文都不看我跟他報告一下今天通過的核管法的修正案最重要是什麼把法律的障礙把它拿掉可是啦主動權在民進黨身上如果台電不申請民進黨政府繼續擺爛不通過核電還是沒辦法重啟的所以從現在開始在野黨負責任提出的修法以後責任在民進黨 |
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如果以後民進黨不實施的話以後電價上漲還有議會去發電健康出問題包括國安的這個問題全部民進黨負責任 謝謝好 謝謝張祺凱委員的發言報告委員會再次呼籲拜託各位願會保持一場的秩序我們接下來請登記最後一位發言張雅玲委員發言 |
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33046.666 |
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各位長期關心核電歸零的環團的朋友以及我們線上觀看直播的公民朋友今天我們必須要嚴厲地譴責我們的國民黨跟民眾黨聯手漠視了核安存在的風險 |
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在我們即將核電歸零的5月17號今天5月13號的前4天我們就在藍白的聯手之下幫所有的核一核二核三開了綠燈到底是要為誰來修這個核管法 |
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為利益 為政黨的利益嗎還是要為中國攻台開個方便之門呢許多的專家團體都已經提到了台灣位於第一島鏈上面中國侵台的企圖心是有增無減 |
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核電廠的存在會讓台灣的安全有這樣子的一個風險可是呢我們的藍拔還是不管這件事情喔而且呢每次上台就在造謠就像剛剛張祺凱又在造謠 |
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從他過去引用錯誤的一個核電發電佔比同時全世界有很多的國家也有提出像是加州的魔鬼股他們要核電的發電未來會有更高的成本 |
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還有像是翁小玲講的肺癌這些都已經有非常多的民團來說這是假的核電絕對不是解方現在核一核二廠位在這個新北市接下來就可能會被接下來依據現在的法規就可以重啟20年我們的核三位於斷層代上也是所以呢我想 |
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套據國民黨說的話他們真的不怕罷免這100萬人寫的聯署書讓他們無所畏懼接下來請大家第三階段持續的大罷免大成功謝謝 |
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好 謝謝張雅琳委員的發言我們謝謝以上立法程序後所有的發言委員現在進行討論四項第21案中華民國刑法部分條文修正草案請宣讀審查報告 |
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本院司法及法治委員會於113年7月11日、114年1月6日分別召開全英委員會議並案審查、散開草案由吳兆景委員、宗憲擔任主席出邀請提案委員及提案黨團及委員說明提案要指揮法務部及相關機關應邀指派代表列寫說明及答覆委員詢問 |
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与会委员与听取报告并询答完毕及大体讨论完毕后进行逐条审查并将全案审查文据原清权宜审查文据拟据审查报告提起议会公决文案需交由党团行商议会讨论时由吴兆景委员中线出席说明宣读完毕暂停 |
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我們休息十分鐘 |
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發言會現在我們繼續開會我們首先請吳宗憲召集委員補充說明時間5分鐘謝謝院長各位同仁各位國人大家好 |
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我從以前到現在我一直堅持妨礙司法公正罪以及公益階壁者保護法這兩項法案對司法公正透明政府是非常重要的兩把武器加上棄保潛逃其實這些都是2017年當年蔡政府司法改革國事會議的關鍵條文 |
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那接避者保護法在去年底已經三讀通過那我們也等於對國人交出了第一張成績單那今天我們持續要推動的就是要推動成防害司法公正罪及棄保潛逃罪兩罪的立法過去我國逃亡關說 |
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在司法上面是毫無成本以至於逃亡跟關說我們在社會上面屢見不鮮而且政商的勾結甚深所以許多的逃亡以及關說他在背後都可以看到非常多的權貴涉嫌其中近年來例如朱國榮 鍾文智等等的案子大家都記憶猶新 |
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這些都是在犯罪後受審期間逃往海外那這些人呢他享受著犯罪所得但是被害人卻在台灣承受著苦果承受家人無法原諒的痛苦這更導致的被害人將來會求償無門我國法律忘記了其實法律之前應該是不分貧富貴賤一律平等所以我們更應該保障需要保障的人 |
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那這兩部法律呢其實主要是對付權貴不讓權貴可以走後門更不能讓有錢人犯了法還能拿著不法所得巨額巨款逍遙法外這個都會重創司法的威信還有人民對司法的信任但從108年到現在從小英總統到現在賴總統換了總統換了行政院院長換了部長 |
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研議了將近六年到現在還是沒有提出任何的草案給立法院因此國眾兩黨今天為了捍衛司法尊嚴以及司法的公信力我們制定了棄保潛逃罪不僅能夠有效的嚇阻被告有潛逃的想法也有助於提升刑事程序的效率以及執行力 |
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此外我也不斷的呼籲司法要獨立,絕對不能夠受到外部勢力的干涉然而過去在政界、商界甚至司法體系自己的內部確實發生有人透過關說影響檢察官、偵查或是法官的裁判這些都嚴重的破壞了程序爭議,也動搖了社會對於司法的信任 |
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我常常提到司法要讓人民信任可能需要百年的時間但是你要毀了它只需要幾個案子所以我們一定要想盡辦法杜絕關縮以及杜絕任何的施壓 |
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那不法官說罪是針對法官檢察官過去是只有刑會以及受賄罪所以我們要特別說明的是官說罪還要處罰的對象包括法官檢察官的長官因為這會更實質的影響到法官檢察官甚至他的影響更大那例如過去啊前法務部長邱泰山他為了一件 |
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逃漏稅的案子向桃園地檢署檢察長彭坤燁官說當時我人就在桃園地檢署那幸好有一位公訴檢察官年輕的公訴檢察官有正義感他叫做陳嘉義檢察官他當時 |
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不願意接受關說所以出來爆料的這件事全案才曝光那後來桃園地檢署的檢察長也因此辭職所以我們就可以了解對於長官關說我們要予以處罰這個也是維持司法公信力一件很重要的事情我們要有一道堅固的防護網才能夠有效的保障司法官在沒有外力的介入之下能夠依據法律做出裁判 |
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那民進黨團雖然本來一直都沒有提出相關的修正版本但今天中午突然有提出來了那我們也予以拜讀喔那只是說很可惜大家就沒有機會討論那不禁讓我想起去年國會改革的時候大家在二讀會前說拿到國眾兩黨的修正 |
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動議然後就說這個是黑箱那如果照這樣講那這一次我們收到的這個草案是不是就是黑箱就是沒有討論就沒有民主所以我覺得今天是不是又一個雙標了那此時此刻我還是希望我們大家一起努力攜手把這群詐騙社會大眾的詐欺犯炒作股票的壞蛋坑殺台灣投資人的金融犯攀附權貴的不法分子我們都向他宣戰 |
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我們要讓權貴無法走後門讓棄保潛逃再多一條罪謝謝各位好 謝謝吳宗憲召集委員的補充說明報告委員會我們現在開始發便當請大家直接用晚餐報告委員會本案已經經過審查會決議需交由黨團協商那本案已經完成協商請宣讀協商結論 |
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立法院黨團協商結論時間114年5月13日星期二上午11時20分地點議場主席辦公室協商主題中華民國刑法部門條文修正草案協商結論一本院院會進行處理時廣泛討論由台灣民眾黨黨團推派二人民進黨黨團推派十人國民黨黨團推派十人輪流交叉發言每人發言時間為三分鐘逐條討論時各黨團軍部發言並依各黨團版本 |
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提出先後進行表決處理主持人韓國瑜、協商代表柯建銘、吳思堯、陳培宇、傅坤祺、王宏威、羅志強、黃國昌、張祺凱、陳昭芝宣讀完畢請問院會對以上參與協商結論有無異議 |
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沒有異議的話本案後續依照協商結論我們來進行處理我們現在進行廣泛討論請各黨團推派代表發言首先請莊瑞雄委員發言羅志強委員請準備 |
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謝謝主席還有我們在場的委員針對中國國民黨還有台灣民眾黨今天所提出來這個棄保潛逃罪這樣的一個條文我在這個地方我要特別跟中國國民黨還有台灣民眾黨的委員跟你們示警請你們搞清楚你們曉不曉得你們今天要審理的法案到底是什麼樣的一個法案 |
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比如說在我們刑法第161條脫逃罪本來它的刑責是一年以下有期徒刑一年以下有期徒刑我在我們司法法治委員會裡面這個條文我一路反對反對到我們院會了我還是要跟大家報告 |
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你現在把他提高行走到三年啊那我請問你接下來162條把人放掉了不是更嚴重嗎那你也是三年你這是拿什麼樣的邏輯在立法剛剛吳宗憲委員放在這邊的一個標語啊是說啊 |
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要讓權貴潛逃多一條罪我告訴各位尤其中國國民黨還有台灣民眾黨你們這些從來沒有走進司法法制委員會的委員們仔細的去思考剛好相反 |
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我們在鄉下或者是我們在民間裡面我們常常會看到很多告訴來論之罪兩個人打架我跟羅志強打個架打完以後旁邊有一個王宏威出來喬一下說兩個都是好朋友嗎講一講就好了嗎好吧我們兩個就和解掉了地檢署的傳票送到我這邊來了我以為我就講完沒事了就不去開庭了按照今天的法律通過以後各位三年了 |
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三年咧你為了對付權貴然後傷及到了無辜全部都是一般的老百姓我們這麼多不管是新竹不管是苗栗不管是花蓮不管是台東我們多少好朋友老百姓有時候移情賭賭博 |
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非公共場合本來是可以罰九千塊而已耶公共場合是五萬塊以下送到地審署去責付過幾天叫你來開庭你想說反正只有罰錢而已現在到處有台積電我就要去打工一天六千塊開庭管你那麼多到最後呢本罪沒事啦到最後一條棄保潛逃罪通嗎這是什麼邏輯的立法你們法盲耶 |
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不要因為吳宗憲幹過剪刀棍講的你們就相信啊這叫笨啊害死老百姓啊你們絕交的全部都是權貴我認莊仁雄認識的不是權貴啊我們都是廣泛的一般老百姓啊你們修正法令對嗎告訴乃論之罪是可以撤回的欸你到最後本罪成分都沒有了老百姓賺到了全部棄保剪刀罪 |
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謝謝卓恩瑞選委員的發言接下來請羅志強委員發言黃珊珊委員請準備等了12年我終於等到今天等到今天妨害司法公正罪的立法跟表決 |
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只要今天法案司法公正罪表決通過從此高官官說將不是他們的特權從此權貴官說司法將負擔刑事責任在12年前2013年的9月當時台灣發生了一個司法重大的恥辱 |
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民進黨黨團總召柯建民透過當時的立法院長王金平向法務部長檢察官施壓他的全民電偷案檢察官接受施壓針對他的案件不上訴最後無罪定讞他不但是一個關說司法還是一個成功的關說司法 |
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當時的羅志強擔任總統府副秘書長我對此強烈批判並且持官明智抗議持官之後我失業五年在那五年當中是靠寫作為生但是從那一刻開始我就把妨害司法公正罪的立法當作我畢生的職質從不後悔從不放棄 |
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去年我參選立法委員也把制定關說司法罪當作我的第一政見使字要消除這個司法的起始大辱立字不讓關說者在司法殿堂上橫行一年的時間我做到了我們做到了 |
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今天我們來制定這個妨害司法公正罪來懲處關說司法的權貴就是要告訴我們所有的老百姓司法不該是有權判生無權判死的權貴交易司法的清白不容這些高官權貴來玷污今天只要立法通過會展開我們司法的一個新業 |
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所以我今天是懷著感激的心情來向我的選民報告羅志強做到了我沒有愧對選民也沒有愧對12年前的自己最後我要特別感謝我們民眾黨的黃國昌委員還有我們的吳宗憲委員還有很多在野黨委員我們一起推動了司法的公正 妨害司法公正罪謝謝大家 感謝大家 |
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謝謝羅志強委員的發言接下來請黃珊珊委發言沈伯陽委員請準備院長各位同仁我想今天非常重要的一刻因為2017年的司改會的決議針對司法改革有非常非常多重要的項目一直都沒有立法八年了今天 |
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這個法條持了八年棄保潛逃罪跟妨害司法公正罪從台灣的金融犯罪一般民眾身上吸金數億、數十億甚至數百億可是一個一個棄保潛逃從朱國榮、林秉文、鍾文智到現在甚至是一個虐童案的健身教練也棄保潛逃 |
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所以气保潜潮对于有关系有影响的人并没有任何的成本也没有任何的 |
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其他額外的代價所以棄保潛逃罪是非常重要的一個條文那當然剛剛很多委員有在提到所以我們的法條裡面講得很清楚合法傳喚未到案而且發布通緝之後他才會有所謂的棄保潛逃的犯罪也就是說請大家可以討論一下這個程度到什麼程度不會因為你一次不到庭就發生這個事情第二個部分是妨害司法公正罪 |
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妨礙司法公正不管是在過去看到的非常多的權貴或者是民眾常說的有錢判生沒錢判死妨礙司法公正對於證人鑑定人或者是法官檢察官有任何不當的影響跟關說 |
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竟然沒有任何的刑責在這個過程裡面幾十年來民眾對於司法的不信任是來自於對於相關程序裡面做壞事的人並沒有得到所謂的懲罰而造成對司法的不信任所以這兩條法條在司法改革會議的時候就已經是民眾還有專家學者的共識重點是在於八年了這個司法改革的會議並沒有被完整的落實 |
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台湾民众党在去年2月1号上任之后我们就立刻了提案而且我想在司法法制委会提了非常久今天终于在我们要表决这个法案的同时我们看到了民进党团的版本 |
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民進黨版本其實裡面的再修正動議法條內容跟國民黨民眾黨的法條內容大同小異尤其是我們也肯定他們對於不當妨害司法的這個部分司法關說的部分也做了相當的 |
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規範跟處罰而且他們可能規定的更細我認為朝野在某些法案上是可以有共識的而且這些法條的內容不是只有對立的而且執政者我們相信應該有更寬廣的胸襟好的法律我們看到了民進黨團提出來但是是非常遺憾從頭到尾八年來沒有看到行政院的版本所以今天通過之後將是國會代替政府來做這件事 |
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謝謝黃珊珊委員的發言接下來我們請沈伯陽委員發言羅廷瑋委員請準備 |
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好 謝謝主席 那這個法條 因為這個法條其實非常的多那我以往都會慢慢講 但我發現藍白其實根本就沒有在聽我講所以我可以講快一點第一個就是呢 這個161條的修正 說定為三年在刑法上 161條是162條罪責的減輕就跟所謂的生母殺嬰罪 親屬間的切刀是一模一樣的意思那如果它是一個減輕的規定 你要把他變成三年的話你162條就應該做相對應的修正所以剛剛這個莊委選委員其實已經提到這一點了 |
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然後第二個就是呢,所謂的這個潛逃,潛逃有好幾種一種叫無保的潛逃,就是根本就沒有拒保然後他潛逃另外一種是現在討論的叫做拒保的潛逃還有另外一種就是他在羈押了,結果羈押了潛逃那如果你被羈押了就潛逃,回去用161條那拒保潛逃就是他們現在在討論這個條文如果認為這個司法的進行是重要的161條之一應該要涵蓋所謂的拒保潛逃那我就問,請問無保潛逃為什麼沒有定在裡面 |
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如果按照這個邏輯順下去的話橘子還有傅坤琦的管家都是無保險逃啊他們要妨礙司法的進行有啊那為什麼不規範進來這是個問題嘛然後再接下來還有這一個所謂的一個主體這個主體要行為太陽的問題在整個161條的刑法的立法例裡面最強大的一件事情就是你要一個實行行為那我覺得應該沒有時間解釋什麼叫實行行為但實行行為就是最主要叫做逃亡跟 |
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那個藏匿逃亡跟藏匿是最主要你必須要做出來的行為你才有辦法規範結果現在按照他們新修訂的條文根本就沒有實行行為的規定他變成這個犯罪是否成立是在於說檢察官到底有沒有去做這個請他到庭以及有沒有通緝的行為 |
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那這個根本就不是一個刑法正常的立法例除非你向聚眾不解散罪但那一個並不是一個妨害司法公正的犯罪那這更不要講說在原本的版本因為今天後來又有一個最高級秘版原本的版本本來有一個161條之一的第二項違反刑事法116條之二所規定的四項比如說什麼電子腳料什麼等等之類的請問這個違反有沒有妨害司法的進行有啊那為什麼把它拿掉 |
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為什麼它最高機密版要把這個部分拿掉這是一個疑義嘛如果你要把它留下來的話你的主體其實要確定所以在我們的版本裡面呢不但有把主體確定下來它把不同的違反的條項全部都列在新的161條之一我認為這個是一個非常重要的事情然後最後呢我還是要再提一下就是呢關於這一個所謂的 |
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這個加重的一個措置本來在第三項最高機密版也拿掉了但是因為這個加重的措置是按照訴訟程序的進行來決定要不要加重這個也會是一個異議那最後呢我們其實在今天呢我們自己有提出來我們的修正動議很多人會說為什麼等到現在才要提修正動議是因為台大法學院的教授 |
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早就在今年寫過文章說根本台灣不適合訂拒保潛逃罪現在是因為訂了一個有夠爛的拒保潛逃罪我剛才隨便講我還有大概一半的錯誤沒有講你就可以知道這個立法技術有多拙劣所以我們只好要讓他在最小侵害之下提出我們的修正動議所以更不要講說在後面像在北檢前面聚集請問這算不算不算不法的請託不法的施壓應該算剛剛在抄我們的部分的時候他們就把施壓拿掉了因為如果把施壓跟請託放進去在北檢前面集會的 |
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好 謝謝沈伯陽委員的發言接下來請盧廷維委員發言黃國昌委員請準備好 謝謝 |
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我們今天站在這裡心情非常沉重過去這幾年我們可以看到目睹一而再的一些悲劇一直不斷地重演我們看到了巨額的詐騙 吸金甚至是洗錢案件層出不窮金錢從數十億到幾千億受害者成千上萬人 |
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有人破產有人輕生甚至有人因為家庭而瓦解家破人亡但這些案件的主嫌共犯卻一個接著一個交保出盡甚至是人間蒸發洗錢兩千億號稱洗錢教父的屠城文跑了 |
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我們現在看到炒作TDR不法獲利近5億的中文字判了30年入獄服刑前跑了 |
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每一位都是偶然的跑掉嗎當然不是啊而是我們清楚的知道我們的政府拿他們沒轍他們計畫好要逃跑也順利的逃跑至今仍逍遙法外蔡政府我們還是要再一次的一直講蔡政府早在2017年施改國事會議就一直承諾台灣要增設氣保潛逃 |
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八年過去了承諾沒有兌現今天是我們所有在野黨的委員一起來努力我們希望將這些詐騙犯一個一個從國門消失的現在我們應該要檢討制度出了問題我們的法律變成了紙老虎 |
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我們也曾經協助IMB的自救會的成員這個個案的案件金額達到了90億有高達500名的受害者但主嫌還是跑了一堆人痛苦的睡不著政府卻拿他們沒有辦法政府讓我們的司法成了天大的笑話 |
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當民眾拿著存摺緊張的報警的時候但騙你的那一個人啊在海外開了公司喝著香檳過著非常愜意的生活當民眾對著整個司法懷抱希望當下政府卻只能告訴他我們盡力了 |
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我們只能夠盡力司法改革到底是為誰改革我們今天法律到底是為誰服務我們的政府對得起無辜的百姓嗎最後我們今天一起為政府補上這道國家制度的破口讓正義不再遲到讓司法不再為犯罪者開一個方便之門為我們的民眾撐起公義的屋頂大家一起為司法努力為國人努力加油 謝謝 |
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謝謝羅廷偉委員的發言接下來我們請黃國昌委員發言王逸川委員請準備院長 本院委員2831天 |
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2831天是2017年司法改革國事會議最後做成決議的時候跟所有的台灣人承諾我們要制定棄保潛逃罪我們要制定不法關說罪然而過去2831天 |
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我們所看到的是做出承諾的民主進步黨政府不斷地推脫不斷地拖延不斷地用各式各樣的理由說他們還在演繹我們終於走到了今天因為在過去2800多個日子裡台灣人民受夠了 |
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台灣人民受夠了當過法務部部長的邱泰山竟然可以去不法關說桃園地檢署的檢察長為的只有什麼為的只有要幫他的富商好朋友逃稅五億多的案子可以爭取認罪協商 |
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今天有基層的檢察官勇敢的站出來才導致整個醜聞爆發開來但問題是台灣社會沒有辦法理解的是為什麼不法關說的人桃園地檢署的檢察長自己都因此而引咎辭職羞愧下台 |
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但是我們的邱泰山得不到任何法律的制裁為什麼大家終於明白了民主進步黨為什麼在阻擋不法關說罪為什麼在阻擋棄保潛逃罪今天在野黨我們提出了我們的版本從委員會到黨團協商 |
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民進黨的立委提出各式各樣的理由反對但沒有關係他們今天最後終於提出來了版本代表的是什麼代表公民社會是有力量的代表人民的憤怒是有力量的 |
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我要在這裡向所有2023年7月16號站上凱道的朋友致敬謝謝你們今天我們做到了謝謝 |
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好 主席 剛才國昌都在造謠站在這個黨要言論免責權 都一直在亂造謠沒水就沒水 還在造謠今天去三點多收到一個白蘭兩黨的版本同時又說這不是最好的版本各位啊 這個民進黨掀起的這個版本這就熟了各位啊 四點四十八 這個民眾黨又掀出這個 |
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揭穿了後來民眾黨抄的 給抄一條抄民進黨的一百七十二條之事中間還有一條可以改掉抄民進黨的 要把其中一句最重要的抄掉什麼你知道嗎 就是說影響終極判決 強制服務的申請或決定去向法官 檢察官 關說施壓他把施壓揭掉 |
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什麼叫施壓?跟蔣文哲去到台北地檢署,去到台北地方法院,只要在說要把他拐起來的時候,要把他打起來的時候,這民眾黨整群串起,劃到他那裡去,那是不是施壓? |
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黃國昌他每次一個司法法治委員會對一大部執行個案你跟我說每一次都執行個案 每次都講個案好 法務部長就站在那裡去罵 都在執行個案這不是施壓是什麼 五條 把施壓兩條卡掉 |
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把施壓弄去站著這種標準的施壓 立法委員站在台上都在說自己的事情 都在說個案啦這種就叫做施壓啦 你們在炒賣場合看就好你們在整群帶去台北地檢署問候 這種就叫做施壓啦這就妨礙司法公正啦 |
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營養檢察官的決定啦 營養法官的決定啦啊你們這民眾黨的發竅咧就把施壓兩次卡掉 吼 這樣人家就沒事了啊這國民黨的罪行啊 國民黨很多人提案啊提案的那些人從來沒來施法法治委員會 施法民國我看那群人到現在也不知道今天要討論什麼阿卡丁就要發表決啦 可憐啊 |
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謝謝王逸川委員的發言接下來請徐巧欣委員發言吳秉瑞委員請準備 |
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2024年的選前我跟羅志強委員就已經宣誓我們進入到立法院呢要一同增修防害司法公正罪那終於在今天有機會三讀通過反對司法官說這是我們向選民的承諾那我們要說到做到 |
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另外過去八年民進黨全面執政不斷高喊著司法改革卻遲遲沒有見到棄保潛逃修法的行政院版本根據司法院的資料2019年到2023年台灣有超過58000名的通緝犯沒有歸案 |
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那其中有8000多人有出境的記錄,這樣的數字讓大家非常的憂心。所以我相信今天的兩個案子,在一個法案裡面已經是不分藍綠超越黨派,因為我們需要去把這個犯罪的漏洞給堵上。 |
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其中一個最知名也相當離譜的是88匯管地下洗錢案的林秉文他涉案的金額高達數十億但是當時他只有三百萬就能夠繳保了所以他後來呢就也沒有對他限制出境沒有對他限制出海2024年新北地院兩度傳喚他都沒有出席我們才發現他早就已經高歌離席離開台灣 |
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此時才認定他有逃亡之餘才遭到通緝然而他繼續高調的在臉書上面挑戰司法不僅在網路上面叫囂挑釁狡騙自己出盡不是要逃避司法而是有個人的因素要時間處理當時還跟我本人在網路上交鋒說要魚死網破 |
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明明是遭通緝的罪犯但卻公開嗆聲回來的時間我要自己決定語帶威脅發布通緝到今天已經137天仍然不見人影檢調司法對他毫無辦法法務部長竟然也只說了歡迎他來自首可以說是毫無擔當無所作為明知犯罪日益增加但卻沒有對氣保潛逃提出行政院的版本 |
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我只举了林秉文的一个案例但是还有千千万万个林秉文们所以如果不修法这个问题未来也只会变得越来越严重我们不能让这些气饱潜逃的罪犯毫无代价所以我们必须要支持这一次的修法让气饱潜逃有真正的恶主效果 |
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二組犯罪不應該是分黨派這是民眾共同支持的方向所以我們也支持不分黨派大家共同來對於妨礙司法公正以及棄保潛牢的相關罪責來支持不要為反對而反對 謝謝謝謝徐巧欣委員的發言接下來我們請吳秉瑞委員發言徐鈺貞委員請準備 |
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主席各位同仁我們今天在這個地方立法我很遺憾有很多人利用在這邊發言有言論免責的機會在造謠剛剛柯總召特別要我幫他澄清他從來沒有打電話給曾永夫也沒有所謂你們剛剛口中講的這個關說事項那是 |
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馬英九為了配合黃世民為了鬥爭王金平所搞出來的一個醜聞那你現在把他拿來當作你說嘴第二個 邱泰山這件事情也經過調查並無此事所以我們在這個地方討論議案要如何來處理結果你們利用這邊的發言機會人沒有的事情在這邊憑空造謠我覺得這是非常不對的事情 |
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第二個就立法的技術來講這個我們知道刑罰的行為是要處罰行為員的行為結果你們現在的草案161條之一它就是說經過檢查過後法官命據保責付限制住居或限制出境出海經合理懲罰無證當理由不到庭並經發布通緝者 |
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要不要發布通緝這是檢察官跟法官的權利不是行為人的行為所以構不構成這條犯罪居然是他行為之後有其他非他本人的行為要素加入才來決定成不成立這個罪這個是違反了刑法的立法原理 |
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雖然你們常常在講說吳宗憲他是什麼檢察官出身啊不要拿這個東西來這邊倚老賣老啦大家一樣都是考過司法官特考為什麼我29期了你40期了我們的法律會差那麼多呢照理來講你越年輕的應該你的法律知識越高啊怎麼叫惡搞再來講到剛剛 |
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這個王逸川講這個事情民進黨的版本是對於請託關說施壓都要加以處罰結果國民黨民眾黨版本只有對關說加以處罰 |
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那難道就是我剛剛歐一春講的民眾黨這邊害怕什麼害怕你們當初為了柯文哲收押與否在台北地檢署裡面違法前面違法集會遊行那現在為了黃綠錦如國民黨的朱立倫帶頭在台北地檢署前面違法的集會遊行這就是赤裸偶爾在施壓司法 |
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在施壓檢察官跟施壓裁定是否羈押的法官那你們是因為害怕所以你們對於施壓的部分不做處理嗎你們本本只有對關稅欸那對這樣子更嚴重的用集體的力量集會遊行在施壓 |
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反而你就是不做論罪的處理什麼情況比較重的不處理情況沒有那麼重的就處理民進黨的版本連更輕的請託還有包括關說還有包括施壓一併都要處理我們的版本才是最嚴謹最好的謝謝大家謝謝吳秉瑞委員的發言接下來請徐鈺貞委員發言鍾嘉斌委員請準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].start |
36070.094 |
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主席各位同仁大家好民進黨執政後棄保潛逃已經不是個案而是制度性包庇的恥辱它不僅動搖法制根基更讓人民對司法體系徹底的失望如今的法律被認為只對平民嚴厲但卻對綠營的權貴寬鬆 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].start |
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當交保人為逃亡的門票 權貴消遣法外的保護傘看似公正無私的司法體系早已千瘡百孔 即待修法補漏七八潛逃的現象層出不窮最令人震驚的是其中許多案例都與民進黨的關係匪淺綠油友百億賭王林秉文交保三百萬後逃亡海外還在社群平台嗆聲司法 |
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36137.027 |
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台元綠能前董事長陳啟玉民進黨高雄市府出身貪污被判刑12年卻在生壓前潛逃鮑魚大王鍾文智被判30年的重刑也趁交保後逃亡前車城鄉長林錫章前林落鄉長蔡志和前屏東縣議員潘淑珍等人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].start |
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36156.883 |
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分別因弊案、賄選等被判刑同樣在入監前成功落跑這些人不是一般犯人而是與執政黨盤根錯節的政治人物或金主這些案例一再的證明在民進黨執政之下棄保潛逃幾乎成了綠營特權者的保命通道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].start |
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有錢家寶有人巧辱就能一走了之而面對普通百姓來說哪怕只是小案子也得一審二審三審寸步難行司法成了雙標制度公平不在正義蕩然針對棄保潛逃這樣明顯的漏洞早在2017年司法改革國是會議上就已經達成共識主要是針對棄保潛逃加重刑罰但時至今日行政院連一個草案都沒提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].start |
36186.354 |
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是行政怠惰还是另有盘算在这八年间一个个与民进党有关的被告声音政府却毫无作为难道这不是纵容吗这次的修法国民党提出加重弃保遣逃刑责不是为了政治斗争而是为了恢复司法威信只有真正的提高逃亡的代价才能有效的遏制这股风气对于一个国家而言司法失灵所造成的伤害 |
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它會擊碎人民對正義最後的希望立法院若繼續放任這樣的制度漏洞無異於與權貴合謀我們在此堅定地表態修法絕不能再等我們要還司法一個尊嚴也要給人民一個交代唯有堅持改革法律才有意義唯有落實懲罰正義才能彰顯 |
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36247.037 |
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讓我們從今天開始補起這道制度的裂縫重建人民對司法的信賴謝謝 |
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36268.683 |
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主席 在場委員先進還有媒體朋友今天熱門職位有兩個一個叫做權貴氣保潛逃一個叫做高官不法關說今天我要拜託大家把民進黨這個修正再修正的東西拿出來看一看底下我不敢像我們的省委員這樣我們不是來上課但是今天針對幾位卡提諾法學派的發言我們來嚴正的駁斥 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].start |
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首先在今天沈委員發言之前大家聽過無保潛逃嗎?大家都在譴責拒保潛逃難道無保的人潛逃沒有更嚴重嗎?刑法116-2裡面對羈押後的處分有好幾種 |
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這些在停止計號的處分呢 都不比據保更輕微包括什麼 包括要定期報到 包括限制出境 包括科技監控包括了離開住所的限制 包括處分財產的限制這些都不比據保來得輕微重文字怎麼跑掉的啊 是因為據保不見了嗎 不是 他沒有去定期報到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1031].end |
36344.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].text |
他為什麼沒有去定義報告?因為司法官忘了讓他電子交流繼續沿用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].start |
36345.407 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].end |
36363.951 |
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如果一個沒有據保但是被要求取代羈押的方式要上電子腳療要定期報到這樣的人跑掉了請問卡提諾各位法學派罰不罰抓不抓嚴不嚴重沒有161條之一有161161條跟162條的連貫我們現在補充了161條之一就是民進黨版本接下來我們再談談我們的這個王毅算委員說的 |
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修正動議再修正動議又來了吳宗憲委員聽聽看國民黨的172從之一、之二、之三是一包談的是對於證人、鑑定人172之四、之五是對司法官、對檢察官、法官 |
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在之一、之二、之三,他分別對於證人、鑑定人的不當利益、行賄、處分。第二,之二,對他的證人家屬。第三,對於這兩種人以外的其他犯罪要罰。結果呢,國民黨版本呢,他把之二、之三拿掉了,他就有之一,這還好。 |
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現在他的資三 資二拿出來了是原來的資三少了什麼 少了犯前條以外之罪所以原來的證人跟他的家屬在172資二當中被包在一起然後犯罪的人要加重其刑 |
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請問一下各位卡提諾的法派你們把一個171 172之一 之二 之三本來你們的條文是三包的你們幹掉一條最後的之三放到之二然後呢把之一跟之二放在一起加重其刑沒有去談犯其他之罪之一跟之二的進化關係你們怎麼處理明天吳宗憲跟大家交代一下 |
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36453.522 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].end |
36458.592 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].text |
謝謝鍾嘉斌委員的發言接下來我們請圖全級委員發言林楚英委員請準備 |
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36471.004 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].end |
36494.793 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].text |
主席 各位同仁 陳啟鈺前台研董事長涉嫌光電開發案舞弊 掏空台研資產案件審理中 保釋金額200萬 棄保潛逃林秉文 PGtalk負責人 涉88會館地下會對案案件審理中 保釋金額300萬 棄保潛逃 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].start |
36497.774 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].end |
36526.894 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].text |
郭澤民88會館負責人涉洗錢地下會隊200億元累積刑期至少10年以上保釋金額500萬棄保潛逃民進黨執政9年詐欺掏空國家的重大刑事案件一樁樁民眾吶喊棄保潛逃入罪但始終不見行政院積極推動立法 |
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36556.622 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].text |
而早在2017年司法改革國事會議就對棄保逃逸加重刑責有共識但是學者專家的共識卻形同劇文這不禁令人懷疑執政當局有意無意的怠惰難道是刻意製造空窗期讓一個又一個的刑案涉嫌人得以逃之夭夭 |
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36558.479 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].end |
36571.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].text |
今天民進黨不做的事情 國民黨來做民進黨不提案 國民黨來提案將棄保潛逃入罪把棄保潛逃本身當作單獨罪責 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].start |
36573.516 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].end |
36587.774 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].text |
以防止惡行重大卻不怕損失保金的重大刑事嫌犯鋌而走險增加嚇阻 捍衛正義讓民眾重拾對司法的信心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].start |
36589.351 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].end |
36616.325 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].text |
聖經有云公義使邦國高舉國家要強盛社會要富足必須看重公平正義的價值這樣國家才有希望社會才有未來謝謝謝謝圖權級委員的發言接下來我們請林楚英委員發言翁曉琳委員請準備 |
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36627.349 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].end |
36646.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].text |
主席各位立法院的同仁以及收看直播的全國公民朋友針對國民黨與民眾黨所提出徵修的刑法妨害司法公正罪本席要嚴正的指出當藍白一邊高喊要捍衛司法但一邊卻持續的干預司法踐踏法治精神 |
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36647.355 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1045].text |
防害司法公正罪在朝野沒有共識的情況底下又強行要在立法院通過委員會的中心主義已經蕩然無存沒有經過委員會充分的討論也沒有社會的共識現在企圖在院會以藍白的席次優勢要強行過關這只剩下了政治操作完全喪失了立法應該要有的專業跟節制本席要在這邊提醒大家國民黨跟民眾黨就是最常防害司法的人 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1046].text |
特別喜歡選在遊行禁制區的北檢外面集會明知道這個地點很敏感卻執意要把群眾找去企圖影響司法審查跟調查的過程妨害司法之心昭然若揭 |
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36690.526 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].end |
36713.061 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].text |
我提出兩個時間點2024年9月1號黃國昌為了柯文哲社攤號召群眾包圍台北地檢署干擾司法檢查系統的正常運作2025年4月17號國民黨因為自己的造假連署國民黨主席朱立倫跟台北市長蔣萬安又集結群眾在北檢對司法檢查機關進行政治施壓 |
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36714.122 |
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36735.316 |
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我說這是政治施壓這難道不是施壓嗎這就是典型的透過政治集會的方式要來影響司法公正若要立法這種就是最明顯危害的行為就應該納入但是藍白為了自己的遮羞把施壓兩個字拿掉了現在只剩下關說我們看到藍白的版本 |
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36760.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].text |
現在完全沒有好好的來經過審視只是選擇性的包裝這些內容形塑自己要捍衛司法的政黨形象這不只是一個選舉的詐數更是政治的遮羞布如果藍白真的要重視司法公正就應該從檢討自身開始不要一邊妨害司法一邊又假裝立法保護司法 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1050].end |
36786.642 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].text |
容我來提醒大家幾個關鍵字柯文哲的橘子傅坤祺的管家可笑的是藍白再一次透過修法來做自我介紹這些都是他們犯的錯但是他們好意思在這裡修法就像國民黨要修法改選罷法提高懲罰造假連署結果國民黨從北到南都是死人跟造假連署 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1051].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1051].text |
司法應該公正獨立不應該受到政治干預所以民進黨所提出來的版本我們非常的把這個就是有關於關說請託通通都包含施壓都包含其中試圖我們要透過立法的程序不要讓政治來干預司法所以請支持民進黨的版本 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1052].end |
36811.921 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].text |
陳培宇議員 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1053].end |
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主席還有各位委員大家好本次修法於刑法增加防害司法公正罪這是關乎每一位國民的公平正義也是我們法治國家的根基那麼其實國民黨和民眾黨的委員在一開始提出要規範不法關說罪的這個時候當時那麼很多的民進黨委員說關說這個定義不清楚可是沒想到民進黨今天自己提出來的版本還是出現了關說 |
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所以到底是誰抄誰這個部分的話可以請大家看這個法案的版本就知道那麼如果說我們國人對於什麼叫做司法關說這情況不清楚的話請大家直接google關鍵字柯建民關說就會很清楚知道什麼叫做立法委員去這個司法關說了那麼在我們的司法體系裡面 |
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正义本来就不应该受制于金钱权利或是个人关系的影响然而在现实当中确实是有一些不法的分子透过行贿官说威胁串通的手段恶意的去干预司法审判破坏了司法的独立性与公正性那么这些行为不仅让正义变得遥不可及而且更是直接侵害了人民对于法律和司法的信任那么像是行贿 |
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这个证人鉴定人行贿这个义务举发人等等这些都是对司法公正的破坏十分深远而且无可忽视大家想想看在一场刑事案件当中如果说有一位证人的虚假证词而误判无辜或者是一个专业的鉴定因为不正当的利益而失真这样的结果对于受害人对于社会对于整个司法系统都将是一个无法承担的灾难 |
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然而在过去的一些案件当中我们甚至还有看到过有高官权贵或是政商人物以行贿观说的方式试图左右法官检察官甚至鉴定人证人从而去达成一些不法的目的 |
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这不仅无视法律的规则还让真正需要公平审判的当事人无处伸冤让社会中的弱势群体无法得到应有的保护这些行为不仅是对法律的践踏更是对社会公平与正义的深刻伤害 |
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因此制定防害司法公正罪對於行賄證人鑑定人舉發義務人以及司法官說的行為予以處罰這是對於維護司法機構獨立性和公正性至關重要這不僅是保護每個國民的基本權利更是維護社會公平正義的必要手段所以讓我們大家一起期待這個法案的通過能夠將司法公平 |
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帶回到每一個案件讓台灣成為一個法律真正無偏無私的法治國家謝謝大家 |
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主席還有各位觀看直播的朋友大家好我想要針對翁小玲的委員的發言再一次強調您剛剛所說的柯建銘腫瘤的事件事實上調查並沒有這個事情而且當年是因為馬英九跟黃世民硬扣在他身上的罪名但沒有關係您過去的修法已經展現出您是一個禮盲 法盲 |
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土流氓所以根據你所說的我們一點都不在意但我們還是要糾正您的言論喔言論免責權不是這樣用的每一次我上台都要跟大家報告修法程序的問題而且害得我每一次都得提到韓院長 |
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今天在黨團協商的時候韓院長親口跟我保證說培育書記長你們會在12點半拿到今天要表決的版本不知道院長您記不記得而且您在之前提醒我不要在黨團協商的時候錄影 |
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從此以後我非常尊重您給我的承諾但是今天12點半我特地在程序委員會結束後走進來一場門都鎖了我問了議事人員我也問了所有負責的人沒有看到您所說的12點半的版本 |
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這然後呢下午發生了什麼事情三點多兩三點多左右的時候我們拿到一個國重再修還有國重修的版本我們以為這應該就是最後一個版本沒想到三點四十一分醫師人員說國重再修要撤回 |
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意思就是說我們不知道會表決到什麼樣的版本一直到4點15分議事人員突然又煞有其事了發了一張跟剛剛一樣圈一模一樣的修正的版本到每個委員桌上我們當時以為是最新版可是仔細一對發現字是一模一樣的我不知道為什麼要讓議事人員做出這個混淆視聽的動作最後到了5點10分我們才拿到這個等一下要表決而且一定會通過我再說一次 |
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我們要表決而且一定要通過的國眾版本我們非常好奇為什麼這個法案的最後版本如此難產後來聽說因為還在黃國昌的辦公室所以我不知道現在立法院難道地下院長是黃國昌嗎難道所有的法案版本都要透過黃國昌才能拍板定案嗎 |
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我真的非常憤怒每一次我都要上來講程序的問題這不是一個立法委員可以做的事情之一一個立法委員可以好好的針對通案來討論而針對個案這件事情當然是藍白最會剛剛已經有非常多民進黨的委員提醒了你們 |
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許曉鑫委員你在質詢的時候詢問國安局自己有沒有被調查這叫做妨礙司法公正謝榮健委員質詢法務部長涉及案件這叫做妨礙司法公正王宏威委員質詢法務部長詢問帶走黨員名冊是不是要對付你王宏威這叫妨礙司法公正羅志強委員質詢法務部長說自己的辦公室主任絕無涉案這叫妨礙司法公正這是藍白為國人做了最好的示範也是最壞的示範 謝謝 |
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主席 各位立院同仁 |
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我們坐在這邊113席 扪心自問上來用三分鐘的時間你罵我 我罵你真的對於我們台灣社會有所謂的進步嗎今天本席很珍惜這三分鐘我不講個案但我想要請全國國人看一看過去幾年 重大詐騙跨國洗錢 襲擊案件層出不窮受害者傾家蕩產 家庭破碎甚至還有人走上絕路但祖賢呢 |
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潛逃出境 交保後失聯然後呢 就沒有然後了有錢有事有辦法就能逃跑這是我們台灣社會要給外界的現象嗎我們不是沒有法律但明知有些人被限制出去還能順利落跑因為現行法沒有針對棄保潛逃設下任何刑責這種制度根本就是變相的鼓勵犯罪 |
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過去請聽詐騙受害者的哭訴他們手握證據但加害者已經搭機飛了政府一句依法處理對他們來說根本毫無意義自稱法治國家如果說法律都只對受罰者有效對壞人無責那這樣的法治人們又怎麼會相信也因此2017年的時候 |
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司法改革國事會議就已經決意要設棄保潛逃罪法務部研究了那麼久但是版本呢我們過去主張修法就是要明定所謂的棄保潛逃罪對不照規定到案逃亡潛逃的被告處三年以下的有期徒刑讓法律不再形同虛設也讓真正棄保潛逃變得有風險有代價 |
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不只如此同步現在也加重脫逃罪的刑責並偵涉妨礙司法公正罪針對不法官說檢察官法官的行為嚴懲不待維護審判的獨立跟清白這些改革 |
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並不是為了什麼誰的功勞誰的政治而是一個態度什麼樣的態度要讓人民相信在台灣社會犯罪的人應該受到譴罰壞人逃不掉好人有公道所以我懇請大家等一下我們都會進入到實質的逐條審查逐條的表決但更重要的是要一個態度展現給國人 |
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正義並不是遲到找到的問題而是是不是能夠及時實現的承諾也因此我再一次的強調今天的修法是要讓未來正義能夠不要遲到而能夠讓司法真真正正為人民服務為人民存在2017年到現在我們終於在2025年的時候走到了這關鍵的一步謝謝 |
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謝謝侯孟凱委員的發言接下來我們請吳思瑤委員發言吳宗憲委員請準備 |
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主席各位同仁大家辛苦了藍白要修妨礙司法公正罪當然可以但是卻讓人覺得無比的諷刺無比的偽善民眾黨挺貪腐國民黨挺作弊兩位黨主席帶著支持者去衝北檢衝北院發動民粹鬥臭司法也要藍白合這樣的修法有正當性嗎 |
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還不止於此民眾黨國民黨的委員一再透過質詢還有砍預算來修理司法院及法務部干預司法的個案更企圖造成辦案人員的壓力這不是妨礙司法公正什麼是妨礙司法公正立委修法卻不是檢討自己妨礙司法公正獨立的作為這就是說一套做一套這就是偽善這就是假正義 |
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我也要特別說無獨有偶的今天羅志強公布了民調說歷任總統當中司法最公正的是馬英九但是事實上馬英九是唯一被法院認證介入司法的總統國民黨口口聲聲說的反對高官權貴介入司法說的就是你們馬英九 |
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而馬英九任內特捐組違法監聽國會鬧上國際媒體台版的水門案重傷台灣國際的形象今天羅志強還在議場替馬英九洗白汪小林還在造謠抹黑柯建民總召你們還要修妨礙司法公正罪正當性在哪裡 |
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民進黨支持棄保潛逃罪以及妨礙司法公正罪但是審查的過程我們一再的示警制度的配套要完備不能明確式的修法核心的問題就在藍白的版本構成要件並不明確違反了罪行法定的原則將造成執行面的困難而民進黨最終提出來的刑法版本 |
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是最嚴謹最可行的條文我們不只限制了不法關說更擴大納入請託跟施壓難怪呢今天一直遲到下午的5點10分現場才發下藍白喬出來的最終黑箱版聽說就是黃國昌還在做最後的確認因為他們正在抄襲民進黨的版本抄好抄滿 |
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最後我要向韓國瑜院長抗議討論不充分協商又過水黑箱橋條文就是韓國瑜擔任立法院院長的基本配備沒有程序正義就沒有實質的正義再一次請支持民進黨的版本更嚴謹更可行 |
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謝謝吳思堯委員的發言接下來我們請登記最後一位18號吳宗憲委員請發言謝謝好只有強悍的法治才有強悍的國家我想這個版本的問題我只能在這邊講因為過去我們在審查版本的時候我們遇到的就是有些委員開會的時候也不來協商也不來 |
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那這次說黃國昌在抄民進黨版本那其實可以去看一下民眾黨最早的版本甚至我都懷疑民進黨這次提出來的版本是抄民眾黨最早的版本這大家可以回去看一下比對一下這個版本那我知道讓一些權貴犯罪的權貴跑掉會 |
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會讓有些人不開心啦但是我想我們是代議士我們負責的對象是人民我不是來那邊讓某位委員開心或讓某個黨開心的所以我們到這裡還是詳實的來討論法律那當然啦 剛剛有幾位委員有提到為什麼 |
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我們不放入施壓因為施壓兩個字它完全沒有法律的明確性原則這在非常多文獻都看得到施壓兩個字所以我們不敢放進去而不是我們認為要拿掉施壓兩個字那就像之前我們的反滲透法反滲透法因為它有非常多的不明確的法律概念所以目前法務部給我們的資訊是起訴不到五成 |
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後面一審判決無罪跟二審的無罪非常多那這樣會導致因為法律不明確會導致將來執法者他在審理的時候會有問題那再來剛剛莊惠雄委員當然也有指教到說這個161條之一他可能有侵害人權的問題但事實上161條之一如果仔細去看我們的版本他的前提要件是被法官 |
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拒保折付限制駐居出境出海等等而且必須要有通緝之後未回來未到才會有刑責甚至民進黨的版本還不需要有被通緝他就構成犯罪所以到底誰範圍廣誰範圍窄我想有實務經驗的一定非常的理解 |
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那再來有提到告訴乃論未告其實告訴乃論未告這個不具備訴追條件在實務上面他連拒保的機會都沒有所以也不會有因為這樣而遭受到侵害我想這個都是多慮了那最後我想回應那個吳秉樂委員他說邱泰山的這個案子 |
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並沒有這個案子 但是當時我仍在討檢那我這邊也跟各位報告今天查明中109年2月12號的新聞稿有明確寫到邱泰山也是屬於涉及關說的典型行為違私行為重大且明確然後送國安會參處這個是他們新聞稿明確的用語所以不是沒有存在這件事最後我想跟各位報告的是其實我就是一個立法院的菜鳥 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].start |
37789.199 |
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37811.338 |
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我從來不會去跟你討論歧別我也不認為說以老賣老因為我根本不是以老賣老的人好 謝謝各位謝謝吳宗憲委員的發言報告院會我們廣泛討論每位登記的委員均已發言完畢我們現在休息二十分鐘請各位用餐現在休息 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].start |
38979.349 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].end |
38979.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].text |
現在進行第161條 請宣讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].start |
38995.819 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].end |
39022.174 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].text |
民进党绑团再修正动议第161条依法逮捕拘禁之人脱逃者处三年以下有期徒刑损坏拘禁处所谢据或以强暴胁迫犯前项之罪者处六月以上五年以下有期徒刑据证以强暴胁迫犯第一项之罪者在场注射之人处三年以上十年以下有期徒刑扫摸及下手实施强暴胁迫者处五年以上有期徒刑 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].start |
39022.654 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].end |
39040.038 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].text |
前三項至未遂犯罰之犯第一項至第三項之罪於聽審裁判宣告前自動歸案接受所託逃案件之專長審判或執行者得檢清其刑國民黨黨團、台灣民眾黨黨團共同所提在修正動議第161條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].start |
39042.399 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].end |
39069.051 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].text |
依法逮捕拘禁之人脱逃者处三年下有期徒刑损坏拘禁处所谢据会以强暴胁迫犯前项之罪者处一年以上七年下有期徒刑据证以强暴胁迫犯第一项之罪者在场出事之人处三年以上十年下有期徒刑手谋及下手实施强暴胁迫者处五年以上有期徒刑前三项之未遂犯罚之宣读完毕 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].start |
39070.649 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].end |
39075.914 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].text |
好 我們現在按鈴七分鐘並分發表決卡現在開始按鈴 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].start |
39502.193 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].end |
39520.262 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].text |
好,報告委員會,請問都有拿到表決卡嗎?好,謝謝本案進行處理,依序進行表決如果其中有任何議案通過,我們就不再處理其他案首先,我們表決民進黨黨團再修正動議條文現有民進黨黨團要求記名表決 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].start |
39525.225 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].end |
39533.002 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].text |
我們記名表決贊成民進黨團再修正統一條文請按贊成反對請按反對時間一分鐘現在開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].start |
39607.179 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].end |
39617.903 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].text |
報告表決結果 出席109位 贊成50位 反對59位 贊成者少數報告表決結果 出席109位 贊成50位 反對59位 贊成者少數報告表決結果 出席109位 贊成50位 反對59位 贊成者少數報告表決結果 出席109位 贊成50位 反對59位 贊成者少數報告表決結果 出席109位 贊成50位 贊成50位 反對59位 贊成者少數報告表決結果 出席109位 贊成50位 贊成50位 反對59位 贊成者少數報告表決結果 出席109位 贊成50位 贊成50位 贊成50位 � |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].start |
39701.143 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].end |
39705.185 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].text |
報議會報告重複表決結果出席109位贊成50位反對59位贊成則少數民進黨團再修正動議條文不通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].start |
39712.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].end |
39718.261 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].text |
現在我們表決國民黨團、台灣民眾黨黨團共同所提再修正動議條文現有民進黨團、台灣民眾黨黨團要求記名表決我們開始記名表決贊成國民黨團、民眾黨團所提再修正動議條文請按贊成、反對請按反對時間一分鐘現在開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].start |
39805.776 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].end |
39821.841 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].text |
報告表決結果出席109位贊成59位反對50位贊成者多數現有民進黨黨團要求重複表決我們現在進行重複表決贊成請按贊成反對請按反對時間一分鐘現在開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].start |
39897.284 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].end |
39905.047 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].text |
法院會報告重複表決結果出席109位贊成58位反對51位贊成者多數第161條條文照國民黨團台灣民眾黨黨團共同所提再修正動議條文通過我們現在進行增訂第161條之一等條文請宣讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].start |
39923.683 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].end |
39944.842 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].text |
民進黨黨團在修正動議第161條之一經法院或檢察官命拒保之人逃亡藏匿者處三年以下有期徒刑追役或三十萬元以下罰金刑事程序中受法院或檢察官處分或命令之人有下列前行之意而逃亡藏匿者一同 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].start |
39945.822 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].end |
39974.982 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].text |
1.违反限制住居限制出境出海之处分2.违反定情向法院检察官或指定之机关报道之命令3.违反应接受适当之科技设备监控之命令4.违反禁止离开住居所或一定区域之命令5.违反禁止就特定财权违定处分之命令犯前六项之罪于第一选裁判宣告前自动归案接受所逃亡藏匿案件之侦查审判或执行者得减轻其刑 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].start |
39976.623 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].end |
39996.101 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].text |
國民黨黨團台灣民眾黨黨團共同所提在修正動議第161條之一經檢察官或法官命拒保責負限制駐居或限制出境出海經合法全換無正當旅遊不到停並經發布通緝者處三年以下有期徒刑宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].start |
39998.014 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].end |
40009.626 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].text |
林思明委員發表聲明對剛才表決與國民黨團意見一致我們列入公報記錄我們現在開始表決民進黨黨團在修正動議條文現有民進黨黨團要求記名表決我們記名表決時間一分鐘贊成民進黨黨團在修正動議條文請按贊成反對請按反對現在開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].start |
40094.473 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].end |
40109.137 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].text |
報議會報告表決結果出席109位贊成50位反對59位贊成者少數現有民進黨團提議重複表決我們現在進行重複表決贊成民進黨黨團請按贊成反對請按反對時間一分鐘現在開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].start |
40187.249 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].end |
40198.174 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].text |
報告重複表決結果出席109位贊成50位反對59位贊成者少數民進黨黨團再修正動議條文不通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].start |
40199.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].end |
40205.438 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].text |
各位我們現在進行表決國民黨團台灣民眾黨黨團共同所提再修正動議條文現有民進黨團台灣民眾黨黨團要求記名表決贊成國民黨團台灣民眾黨團所提再修正動議條文請按贊成反對請按反對時間一分鐘現在開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].start |
40289.398 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].end |
40304.689 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].text |
報告表決結果在場委員109位贊成59位反對50位贊成者多數現有民進黨團要求重複表決我們現在進行重複表決贊成請按贊成反對請按反對時間一分鐘現在開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].start |
40381.035 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].end |
40384.078 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].text |
報告報告報告報告報告報告報告報告報告報告報告報告報告報告報告報告報告報告報告報告報告報告報告報告報告報告報告報告報告報告報告報告報告報告報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].start |
40403.191 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].end |
40415.892 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].text |
民进党党团在修正动议第163条之二不予增订国民党党团台湾民众党团共同所提在修正动议第163条之二不予增订宣读完毕 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].start |
40416.874 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].end |
40444.969 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].text |
官員會本條因三個黨所提再修正動議不予增訂均相同本條就照三個黨團所提再修正動議不予增訂的通過如果沒有意見我們做以下宣告第163條之二照三個黨團所提再修正動議通過不予增訂現在我們進入增訂第十章之一等章名請宣讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].start |
40445.913 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].end |
40471.551 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].text |
民进党党团在修正动议第十章之一防害司法公正罪我们党党团台湾民众党党团共同所提在修正动议第十章之一防害司法公正罪宣读完毕报言会本章因三个党团所提在修正动议章名均相同本章就照三个党团在修正动议章名通过 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].start |
40472.594 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].end |
40487.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].text |
如果沒有意見的話我們就做以下宣告增訂第十章之一照三個黨團再修正動議章名通過報告委員會現在我們進行增訂第172條之一等條文請宣讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].start |
40492.836 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].end |
40516.558 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].text |
伊朗党团在修正动议第172条之一意图妨害作证鉴定或传议对证人、鉴定人、专家、证人或同意行求契约或交付贿赂或不证利益者处三年下有期徒刑拘役或30万元相罚金证人、鉴定人、专家、证人或同意就作证鉴定或传议之事项要求契约或收受贿赂或不证利益者议同 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].start |
40517.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].end |
40535.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].text |
国民党党团台湾民众党党团共同所提在修正动议第172条之一对于证人、鉴定人、专家证人或同意行求其愿或交付不正利益而约其不为证言、鉴定或传议或约其为一定之证言、鉴定或传议者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].start |
40536.001 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].end |
40548.674 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].text |
處三年下有期徒刑得併科三十萬元以下罰金證人鑑定人專家證人或同意就證人鑑定或傳譯之事上要求其約獲收受不正利益者一同宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].start |
40549.821 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].end |
40554.446 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].text |
現在我們表決民進黨黨團再修正動議條文現在有民進黨黨團要求記名表決我們記名表決贊成民進黨黨團再修正動議條文請按贊成 反對 請按反對時間一分鐘 現在開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].start |
40640.474 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].end |
40644.835 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].text |
報應會報告表決結果 在場委員109位 贊成50位 反對59位 贊成者少數現由民進黨團體重複表決我們現在進行重複表決贊成民進黨黨團所提再修正動議條文 請按贊成 反對 請按反對時間一分鐘 現在開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].start |
40734.192 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].end |
40738.374 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].text |
抱怨會報告重複表決結果在場109位贊成50位反對59位贊成者少數民進黨團再修正動議條文不通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].start |
40747.093 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].end |
40747.413 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].text |
請按反對時間一分鐘現在開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].start |
40839.977 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].end |
40840.877 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].text |
現有民進黨黨團提議重複表決我們現在進行重複表決現在開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].start |
40931.007 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].end |
40940.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].text |
抱怨會報告重複表決結果在場委員109位贊成59位反對50位贊成者多數我們增訂172條之一照國民黨團、台灣民眾黨黨團共同所提再修正動議條文通過抱怨會先等我們進行增訂第172條之二請宣讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].start |
40955.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].end |
40976.122 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].text |
民進黨黨團再疏政動議第172條之二意圖妨害作證鑑定或傳譯對證人鑑定人專家證人或同意為下列行為之一者處30以下有期徒刑軍役或30萬元以下罰金一恐嚇二騷擾證人心酸胃部意圖妨害作證鑑定或傳譯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].start |
40977.842 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].end |
40992.748 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].text |
對與證人、鑑定人、專家證人或同意有密切利害關係之人為前項各款行為之一者異同國民黨黨團、台灣民眾黨黨團共同所提在修正同意第172條之二不予增訂宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].start |
40994.428 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].end |
40998.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].text |
現在我們開始表決民進黨黨團再修正動議條文現有民進黨黨團要求記名表決贊成民進黨黨團提議請按贊成反對請按反對時間一分鐘現在開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].start |
41080.288 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].end |
41080.569 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].text |
時間一分鐘 現在開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].start |
41169.625 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].end |
41173.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].text |
報院會報告重複表決結果出席109位贊成50位反對59位贊成者少數民黨黨團再修正動議條文不通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].start |
41184.261 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].end |
41191.485 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].text |
現在我們開始表決國民黨團 台灣民眾黨黨團共同所提再修正動議不予增訂現有民進黨黨團 台灣民眾黨黨團要求記名表決贊成 請按贊成反對 請按反對時間一分鐘 現在開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].start |
41276.099 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].end |
41293.037 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].text |
報告表決結果在場109位贊成59位反對50位贊成者多數現有民進黨團提議重複表決我們現在進行重複表決贊成國民黨團台灣民眾黨黨團共同所提再修正動議請案贊成反對請案反對時間一分鐘現在開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].start |
41367.533 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].end |
41389.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].text |
報告重複表決結果在場委員109位贊成50位反對50位贊成59位反對50位贊成者多數第172條之二照國民黨團台灣民眾黨黨團共同所提在修正動議通過不予增訂報告現在我們進行增訂第172條之三請宣讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].start |
41392.216 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].end |
41419.551 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].text |
民進黨黨團在修正動議第172條之三意圖妨害作證鑑定或權益對證人鑑定人專家證人或同意實行前條以外之犯罪行為者依其所犯之罪加重其刑之二分之一意圖妨害作證鑑定或權益對與證人鑑定人專家證人或同意有密切利害關係之人實行前條以外之犯罪行為者依其所犯之罪加重其刑之二分之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].start |
41420.632 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].end |
41438.254 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].text |
國民黨黨團、台灣民眾黨黨團共同所提在《書政動議》第172條之二,意圖使證人、鑑定人、專家證人或同意不違證言、鑑定或傳譯,或使其違一定之證言、鑑定或傳譯,對其本人或其之配偶直系寫經、三經等內 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].start |
41439.275 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].end |
41456.606 |
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旁系血親二親等內姻親或家長家屬與其定有婚約者或其他身份上或生活上有密切利害關係之人實行犯罪行為者亦其所犯之罪加重其刑之二分之一宣讀完畢我們現在表決民進黨黨團再修正動議條文現有民進黨黨團要求記名表決我們記名表決時間一分鐘暫程請按暫程反對請按反對現在開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].start |
41540.623 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].end |
41555.535 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].text |
發言會報告表決結果出席109位贊成50位反對59位贊成者少數現在有民進黨黨團提議要求重複表決我們現在進行重複表決贊成請按贊成反對請按反對時間一分鐘現在開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].start |
41630.049 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].end |
41633.071 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].text |
歡迎會報告重複表決結果出席109位贊成51位反對58位贊成則少數民進黨黨團再修正動議條文不通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].start |
41642.881 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].end |
41649.826 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].text |
現在我們表決國民黨團、台灣民眾黨黨團共同所提再修正動議條文現由民進黨團、台灣民眾黨黨團要求記名表決我們記名表決贊成國民黨團、台灣民眾黨黨團再修正動議條文請函贊成、反對請函反對時間一分鐘現在開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].start |
41734.841 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].end |
41756.955 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].text |
報導委員會張家俊委員發表聲明剛才表決與國民黨黨團意見一致我們列入公報記錄委員會現在報告表決結果出席109位贊成59位反對50位贊成者多數現有民黨團要求重複表決我們進行重複表決贊成請按贊成反對請按反對時間一分鐘現在開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].start |
41768.183 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].end |
41771.186 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].text |
響鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].start |
41831.994 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].end |
41844.399 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].text |
報告原會報告重複表決結果出席109位贊成59位反對50位贊成者多數本條照國民黨團臺灣民眾黨黨團共同所提在修正動議爭定第172條之2條文通過現在我們進行第172條之4等條文請宣讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].start |
41853.717 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].end |
41871.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].text |
民進黨黨團再說戰鬥議第172條之四意圖影響關於終局裁判強制處分之申請或決定偵查終結上訴或抗告指揮執行之決定利用職務身份或地位之影響力向全部法官檢察官或其監督長官不法請託 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].start |
41871.661 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].end |
41892.044 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].text |
官说施压者处五年一项有期徒刑拘役或五十万元一项罚金惩办法官检察官应受不法请托官说或施压而便跟中局裁判强制处分之申请或决定侦查终结上诉或抗告指挥执行之决定者处七年一项有期徒刑拘役或七十万元一项罚金 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].start |
41892.945 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].end |
41910.965 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].text |
我們黨黨團台灣民眾黨黨團共同所提在修正動議第172條之3意圖使法官檢察官不為一定或為一定之裁判處分終結偵查上訴抗告或指揮執行之命令在司法案件偵查審判或執行中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].start |
41911.465 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].end |
41938.089 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].text |
利用職務身份或地位之影響力對法官檢察官或其指揮監督長官為不法官說者處五年以下有期徒刑得併科五十萬元下罰金前項法官檢察官因而不為一定或為一定之裁判處分終結偵查上訴抗告或指揮執行之命令者處一年以上七年以下有期徒刑得併科一百萬元下罰金宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].start |
41939.686 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].end |
41953.784 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].text |
我們現在表決民進黨黨團在修正動議條文現在有民進黨團要求記名表決我們記名表決贊成民進黨團在修正動議條文請按贊成 反對請按反對時間一分鐘現在開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].start |
42026.516 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].end |
42044.802 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].text |
報告院會報告表決結果出席109位贊成50位反對59位贊成者少數現在民進黨團提議要求重複表決我們進行重複表決贊成民進黨團所提議請看贊成反對請看反對時間一分鐘現在開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].start |
42118.022 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].end |
42134.604 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].text |
報告重複表決結果出席109位贊成50位反對59位贊成者少數民黨黨團再修正動議條文不通過報告我們現在進行表決國民黨團台灣民眾黨黨團共同所提再修正動議條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].start |
42135.725 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].end |
42147.393 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].text |
現有民進黨團 台灣民眾黨團要求記名表決我們記名表決贊成國民黨團 台灣民眾黨黨團所提在修正動議條文請按贊成 反對請按反對時間一分鐘現在開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].start |
42246.749 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].end |
42263.561 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].text |
好 謝謝各位委員謝謝 謝謝各位委員拜託大家維護一下議場的秩序 拜託大家謝謝報告一下表決結果出席109位 贊成59位 反對50位 贊成者多數 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].start |
42270.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].end |
42272.881 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].text |
報告院會現有民進黨黨團提議重複表決我們進行重複表決時間一分鐘贊成國民黨黨團台灣民眾黨黨團所提在修正動議條文請按贊成反對請按反對現在開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].start |
42365.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].end |
42381.779 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].text |
好 謝謝報告重複表決結果在場委員109位贊成59位反對50位贊成者多數本條照國民黨團台灣民眾黨黨團共同所提再修正動議增訂第172條之3條文通過報告委員會現在我們進行增訂第172條之5等條文請宣讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].start |
42393.243 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].end |
42421.168 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].text |
民进党党团在修正动议第172条之五因刑事诉讼程序持有获取的卷宗或证物内容之人于该刑事诉讼程序终结前将该卷宗或证物内容于该刑事诉讼程序外为非正当目的之使用者处一年将有企图行军役或食物远向罚金国民党党团台湾民众党党团共同所提在修正动议第172条之五不予增订宣读完毕 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].start |
42421.988 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].end |
42424.172 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].text |
歡迎回現場表決民進黨黨團在修正動議條文現有民進黨黨團要求記名表決我們開始記名表決贊成民進黨團 請按贊成反對 請按反對時間一分鐘現在開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].start |
42508.564 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].end |
42525.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].text |
法院會報告表決結果出席109位贊成50位 反對59位 贊成者少數法院會現有民進黨黨團要求重複表決我們進行重複表決贊成民進黨團請按贊成 反對請按反對時間一分鐘 現在開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].start |
42603.018 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].end |
42603.358 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].text |
請按反對時間一分鐘現在開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].start |
42702.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].end |
42717.329 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].text |
國安委員會報告表決結果初期109位贊成59位反對50位贊成者多數現有民黨黨團提議重複表決我們現在進行重複表決贊成請按贊成反對請按反對時間一分鐘現在開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].start |
42792.542 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].end |
42809.949 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].text |
報告重複表決結果出席109位贊成59位反對50位贊成者多數第172條之五照國民黨團台灣民眾黨黨團共同所提議在修正動議通過不予增訂報告全案已經經過二讀現有台灣民眾黨黨團提議繼續進行三讀請問院會有無異議沒有異議請宣讀經過二讀這條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].start |
42820.236 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].end |
42836.298 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].text |
第161條依法逮捕拘禁之人脫逃者處三年下有期徒刑總會拘禁處所竊據會以強暴脅迫犯前項之罪者處一年上七年下有期徒刑拘重以強暴脅迫犯第一項之罪者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].start |
42836.838 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].end |
42861.725 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].text |
在场出事之人处三年以上十年下有歧途刑手谋及下手实施强暴胁迫者处五年以上有歧途刑前三项之未遂份罚之第161条之一经检察官或法官命据保则负限制驻居或限制出境出海经合法传唤无证当理由不到庭并经发布通缉者处三年以下有歧途刑 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].start |
42862.885 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].end |
42887.988 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].text |
第十章之一防害司法公正罪第172条之一对于证人鉴定人专家证人或同意请求其冤获交付不正利益而约其不为证言鉴定或传逸或约其为一定之证言鉴定或传逸者除三年以下有期徒刑得并科三十万元以下罚金证人鉴定人专家证人或同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].start |
42888.428 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].end |
42904.651 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].text |
就证言、鉴定或传译之事项要求其约或收受不正理者一同第172条之二意图使证人、鉴定人、专家证人或同意不为证言、鉴定或传译 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].start |
42905.151 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].end |
42921.204 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].text |
或使其為一定之證言鑒定或傳譯對其本人或其之配偶之系血親三親等內旁系血親二親等內姻親或家長家屬與其定有婚約者或其他身份上或生活上有密切利害關係之人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].start |
42922.485 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].end |
42936.738 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].text |
實行犯罪行為者依其所犯之罪加重其刑之二分之一第172條之三意圖使法官檢察官不為一定或為一定之裁判處分終結專查上訴抗告或指揮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].start |
42937.839 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].end |
42958.664 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].text |
执行之命令在司法案件侦查审判或执行中利用职务身份或地位具影响力对法官检察官或其指挥监督长官为不法关书者处五年以下有期徒刑得并科五十万元下罚金前向法官检察官因而不为一定或为一定之裁判处分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].start |
42959.304 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].end |
42987.061 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].text |
终结侦查上诉抗告或指挥执行之命令者处一年以上七年效有期徒刑得并科一百万元以下罚金宣读完毕报议会我们三读条文已宣读完毕请问院会有文字修正没有文字修正好我们现在报议会现有民进党党团依据立法院职权新司法第十一条规定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].start |
42987.645 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].end |
42999.249 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].text |
提請將全案負表決我們現在進行全案之表決現有民進黨黨團要求記名表決我們記名表決時間一分鐘現在開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].start |
43079.503 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].end |
43092.703 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].text |
發言會報告表決結果出席108位贊成59位反對49位贊成者多數現在民進黨黨團體重複表決我們進行重複表決贊成請按贊成 反對請按反對現在開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].start |
43170.643 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].end |
43187.513 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].text |
抱怨會邱志偉委員發表聲明對剛才表決結果與民進黨黨團意見一致我們列入公報記錄抱怨會報告重複表決結果出席109位贊成59位反對50位贊成者多數我們全案表決通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].start |
43190.011 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].end |
43198.039 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].text |
我們先來做以下決議中華民國刑法徵定第161條之一第十章之一章名即第172條之一至第172條之三條文並將第161條條文修正通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].start |
43217.642 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].end |
43225.483 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].text |
歡迎各位我們現在進行完成立法陳秀發言並截止登記首先我們請沈伯陽委員發言黃國昌委員請準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].start |
43248.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].end |
43258.557 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].text |
好 謝謝主席那我還是主條因為時間只有兩分鐘來講一下剛剛還有很多問題沒有講到第一個就是161條剛剛有提過它這個訂三年儀的油漆圖形其實162沒有一起修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].start |
43263.069 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].end |
43271.358 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].text |
但這邊其實還有一個更大的問題就是第二項現在161條的第二項訂了一個1到7年但162條的第二項還是6個月到5年也就是說這邊的條文有一個錯誌明明162條是一個比較嚴重的狀況結果它的強暴脅迫的刑度還是比較輕 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].start |
43282.769 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].end |
43305.003 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].text |
那這個很明顯的可以發現藍白連這種最基本的立法例都不會這是一個單純的數學問題啊1357啊你如果是定一年下一個級距是三年三年下一個級距是五年五年下一個級距是七年那請問為什麼161條要直接你把它變成三年之後下一個級距應該是五年啊那怎麼會變成一年到七年這是第一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].start |
43306.064 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].end |
43321.297 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].text |
第二個是161條之一的問題就是呢所謂的剛剛講的明明今天學界就已經講說我們不需要這個所謂的棄保潛逃罪如果你硬要定的話呢你把它放在三年的話那你一年的積聚你要放什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].start |
43321.937 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].end |
43339.662 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].text |
所以我才會說如果你要訂那就是五寶跟巨寶兩個一起訂要不然你就是兩個都不要訂結果現在看到的就是你只訂了一個這樣也就算了結果竟然比積壓中的脫陶也就是回到161條還要來得嚴重因為它的形度雖然一樣但它沒收了保釋金 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].start |
43340.282 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].end |
43365.522 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].text |
所以在實務上面保釋金已經成為了司法行政的一個成本的對價那你為什麼還要再訂一個三年這不合理嘛然後最後呢我們也要講到就是剛剛一直提到的如果今天是請託跟施壓今天有人說施壓的定義不清但關叔也是一樣的問題啊今天關叔如果是公務人員對於職務以外的事項那請問一般人民的請託跟比較嚴重的施壓那為什麼沒有訂到我們現在的法條裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].start |
43366.383 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].end |
43369.546 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].text |
所以我還是要再說一次這樣的一個立法品質真的堪慮謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].start |
43402.012 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].end |
43418.604 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].text |
各位公民朋友各位曾經在2023年7月16號站在聖鼠豔陽烈日下揮著汗高喊司法正義 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].start |
43420.103 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].end |
43445.754 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].text |
要求要改革在民進黨主政下所出現的權貴司法要改革民進黨主政下所出現的這些權貴透過不法的關說透過棄保的潛逃踐踏法律最基本公平正義的公民們今天 |
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台灣民眾黨八位立委站在這邊跟公民社會報告我們承諾的我們做到了我們還記得716我們的主席柯文哲跟我們一起站在凱達格蘭大道上 |
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簽下了要完成推動不法關說棄保潛逃的承諾書柯文哲說到做到台灣民眾黨說到做到我也要利用這個機會感謝感謝當初頂著非常大的壓力跟我一起合辦這個活動的館長以及所有參與的公民朋友們 |
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因為有你們我們做到了在這三讀感言的時候我最後只想說一句話那些不曉得法案從哪裡來的民進黨立委一直在那邊吵哇 為什麼不施壓也要處罰請民進黨回去找全國法規資料庫啊從法律到命令什麼時候施壓是一個詞啊謝謝大家 |
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好 謝謝黃國昌委員的發言接下來我們請鍾嘉斌委員發言洪孟凱委員請準備我不其然 我所預告的 |
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不法關說還有棄保潛逃成為今天的關鍵句但是我要說的是頭輕腳重前後矛盾才是今天藍白合作修法造成的結果 |
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前面我們省委員說的我比較重述了當然要謝謝我們的院長讓民進黨有機會提出我們的修正動議也因此讓國民兩黨和國眾兩黨可以參考我們的172之1把對於證人鑑定人的行賄罪要納入也把他們的收賄罪跟索賄罪也納入 |
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第二他們把我們的172條之四有關於對於利用身份職務和地位把這個明確化去進行不法關說納入但是很可惜的他們忘了施壓跟這樣的一個行為也要一併的納入但是最後他們留下了一個問題就是他們本來172之1之3之2之3他本來是針對三件事情 |
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之一是針對證人鑑定人之二是針對證人鑑定人的密切關係者但是他們把之二放棄掉了而把密切關係者跟證人鑑定人放在之三原來之三的提到之二但他漏了幾個字漏了 |
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實行前條以外犯罪行為者因為少了前條以外之這五個字會造成了他的172條之二跟172條之一有重複定義的問題172條之一的證人跟鑑定人 |
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被影響所會行賄之後如果他的犯罪算不算172條之二的這些犯罪行為這個我們就留待讓待會的吳宗憲委員好好的來說明白你們這個矛盾怎麼解決謝謝鍾嘉斌委員發言接下來我們請洪孟凱委員發言吳宗憲委員請準備 |
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2023年台灣社會7月16號辦了一場遊行716上凱道公平正義救台灣我記得那一天非常的熱而7月16參與完這一個活動的時候我特別把那一天的布條拿在我的車上綁在我的駕駛座前面讓我時時刻刻看著 |
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公平正義716我要說的是公平正義從來不是從天上掉下來公平正義是你我共同努力打拼並且透過立法程序補足現在司法的不足加強過去可能錯誤的漏洞我們把它給彌補起來 |
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2017年民進黨政府召開的司法國事會議就已經有說了不管是棄保險逃罪、脫逃罪以及相關的司法都應該要去加強彌補的時候為什麼八年過去了沒有動作 |
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今天2025年我們能夠在5月13號的時候將近晚上9點鐘讓他正式三讀通過無論棄保潛逃無論逃脫罪無論不法關說或是妨礙司法正義其實目的只有一個就是讓台灣社會能夠更加的完善 |
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炸彈公股銀行200億的陳偉智88洗錢案的林秉文還是炒作TDR不法獲利5億元的鍾文智過去能夠讓他們做這樣子一個逃脫未來棄保潛逃罪放入之後我們希望不要再有這樣的一個事情發生更重要我們要讓台灣社會知道我們展現一個態度不是有錢有事有辦法的人可以在台灣囂張至極 |
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社會並不完美但是透過立法我們能夠讓社會更加完善今天就是我們展現決心的一天感謝大家 謝謝 |
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謝謝主席從2017年世改博士會議的關鍵條文到現在2025年我們終於通過了那過去我們非常重視這三個法案對人民非常重要的這三個法案公義階幣者保護法、妨害司法公正罪以及棄保潛逃罪非常非常開心的在今天我們終於三讀都通過了 |
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那我相信這對我國人民是一個非常非常重要的一天那也謝謝各位委員的支持那不管今天是各位委員是屬於哪一個政黨尤其在這個高度的鬥爭的這個國會環境裡面任何一個法案的通過都非常的不容易那我希望說大家心中永遠要知道人民是大於政黨那民生是大於政治而不要到這邊來每天腦子裡面想的都是政治都是政黨 |
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那像剛剛有一些委員一直提到施壓、關說那我想說其實還是要請大家回去稍微研究一下其實我國的法律在制定上面有一個最基本的原則叫做法律明確性原則那關說其實有非常多的定義以及有非常多的判決都有裡面都有相關的解釋但是施壓卻完全沒有所以我們今天實在沒有辦法把一個法律不明確的東西定義在法條裡面甚至刻以刑責這是 |
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立法者不應該犯了一個錯誤所以今天不管面對有一些人他不懂那他的任何的謾罵嘲笑其實我覺得就是不用去在乎那該有什麼樣的壓力就是把他扛下來這是一個立法委員該有的責任那我想明知所欲天必從之所以我們還是要去做人民需要的事情人民的需求才是最重要的那人民就是痛恨 |
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權貴犯罪之後卻能桃之夭夭在國外坐享他的犯罪所得那一樣我們就應該要去補丁把這個治安的破洞把它補起來因為人民才是最偉大人民才是最大我們所有的權利都是他們委託給我們的請不要忘記請不要誤以為自己是政黨的代言人謝謝 |
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謝謝吳宗憲委員的發言報怨會我們本次會議進行到此為止非常謝謝林倩琪委員陳玉珍委員張志倫委員鍾嘉斌委員吳宗憲委員一起陪同我們審查到最後非常感謝我們現在散會 |