| IVOD_ID |
166627 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/166627 |
| 日期 |
2025-12-24 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-20-14 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期財政委員會第14次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
14 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期財政委員會第14次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-12-24T10:28:12+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-12-24T10:40:26+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:12:14 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/8b793423fad44d60fbad494715864dac63a8c7f6258665b291760b03f9a190b7e339ddae18a2dfb35ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
羅明才 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:28:12 - 10:40:26 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-12-24T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第4會期財政委員會第14次全體委員會議（事由：邀請行政院主計總處陳主計長淑姿、財政部莊部長翠雲、金融監督管理委員會彭主任委員金隆、國家發展委員會副主任委員、內政部次長、外交部次長、國防部副部長、教育部次長、法務部次長、經濟部次長、交通部次長、勞動部次長、農業部次長、衛生福利部次長、運動部次長、環境部次長、文化部次長、數位發展部次長、僑務委員會副委員長、國家科學及技術委員會副主任委員、海洋委員會副主任委員、國軍退除役官兵輔導委員會副主任委員、人事行政總處副人事長、國立故宮博物院副院長、原住民族委員會副主任委員、客家委員會副主任委員、中央選舉委員會副主任委員、核能安全委員會副主任委員、公平交易委員會副主任委員、國家通訊傳播委員會副主任委員、大陸委員會副主任委員、公共工程委員會副主任委員就「115年度中央政府總預算案至今尚未審查，近3,000億元之新興、新增計畫將無法推動，對國家整體發展之影響」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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主席 請主席長好 請陳主席長陳主席長委員好你好你上任多久了一年多一年多了朱哲銘你認不認識是 他前主席長這三四十年以來從來也沒有說什麼 |
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那個會出現總預算案然後未審啊要排這個三千多億然後要叫各部會來這邊然後演出一場戲啊就是說都不審都不審會出現什麼狀況那陳主計長我請問你以前有沒有出過狀況以前也是有你對這個事情急不急啊 |
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當然急啊 因為預算沒有整理大聲一點當然急啊 因為預算沒有整理你急 那請問你急的話你為什麼不找方法來處理呢是你們以前說罵那個朱澤民 罵罵罵他有哪一次出現問題有需要這樣勞斯動眾然後來演出一個二頭殺三四的一個議會嗎 |
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這演給誰看啊每個還點名每個縣市然後把所有事項一一排列出來這為了什麼一看就知道有一些人要選縣長有一些人要選市長在安排什麼大內宣啦是不是政治提前開打開玩笑啊立法院這裡又不是第一天啦演出這個什麼戲啊 |
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所以我們還是肯定委員能夠來促成審查你說急不急 急那我在立法院30年每一個主計長 立任的部長有問題要溝通嘛你有沒有請教過朱哲銘怎麼溝通本辦公室你有沒有來過你什麼時候來過有嗎 你上一次是什麼時候來的 |
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你集立法院不過113個立委你為什麼不多花一點時間去溝通一下你集在哪裡呢我今年一年度從來沒看到你來跟我講過什麼啊以前歷任的朱哲銘歷任的主計長那你有沒有去跟韓院長請教過有嗎 |
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上次是什麼時候幾年前對 幾個月之前各位親愛的文武百官各位親愛的鄉親都聽到了 |
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不要演戲了 演這個什麼雜戲雜報的戲你就是三千億嘛那我再問一下現在可以 各縣市的情況年關將至有沒有哪一個縣市因為薪水發不出來會倒的 有沒有因為他目前年關要求調度的部分將近一千多億啦對 有沒有哪一個縣市政府會倒的 |
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你回答我嘛有沒有哪一個縣市政府會倒的這個要看他整個一個一個能夠舉借額度的一個情形不要講那個齁我也不敢說你是內行人外行人講外行話中華民國在這裡沒有一個縣市倒過嘛你手上都有資金可以用啊 |
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你知道你上面所講的一百一十四年度一百一十五年度你的稅率變多少稅率的部分是不是請財政部來說明這個你自己寫的兩兆八千多億兩兆八千六百二十三億那我請問你十年前的時候稅率是多少應該是 |
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一兆多嘛所以組長你已經多了一兆多然後每天在那邊哭窮然後那邊喊說快倒了這邊衛生紙買不出來了總統府連那個燈都打沒有電可以開連衛生紙 上廁所都沒有衛生紙連普渡要拜拜的時候乖乖都買不起好可憐喔 |
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主席長好可憐喔好 那問你現在國防預算一次要提一兆兩千億是不是一兆兩千五百億那要不要讓他過 |
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希望大院能夠支持希望委員支持我也支持啊那個一次過右手一過就是一兆2500億你今天3000億把各部會叫過來然後我好窮喔我好可憐喔那個一兆2500億是分8年對有分不管啦就是那麼大的一筆數字啊你每次來這邊就是要錢要錢你能不能哪一次來是講一個不要錢的事 |
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然後要錢你又不溝通然後我們不同意好像我們是不是罪魁禍首都是問題出在我們那你要問問你們編的合不合理還有你有沒有來溝通過 |
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從來沒有來溝通過那我問你為什麼在王金平 王院長的時代這個是風調雨順 國泰民安什麼事情都會圓滿解決你們有沒有嘗試溝通過 |
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沒有 都沒溝通過啊每次來這邊演給大家看我們好可憐喔 我們不行啦你不行的話你明天 今天你隨時可以去委員那邊溝通了解清楚不是像今天所有的委員喊來喊去 不行的話長照會怎麼樣小朋友會怎麼念書都是語帶威脅的方式來挖坑給立委跳 |
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省預算不是這樣子的吧明年的經濟成長率是多少另外一個單位說3點多今年年初的時候你講多少 |
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今年的話就是去年啦去年的時候妳告訴我們經濟成長率是多少預估是多少妳講3點多變5點多 |
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那今年經濟成長率也7.3多了嘛其實要給大家一個概念就是國庫其實是兵強馬壯國家是很有錢的啊你們不要說騙不懂的老百姓說什麼要做到3000億剛剛我隨便一講你不是講一兆2500億嗎 |
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1兆2500億是分8年所以一年才1600多億你要想10年前我們的稅出也才1兆8000億現在你們稅出的預算是多少3兆多1兆8變到3兆多 |
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各位啊 多了一兆五千億你還說什麼事情都動之不了什麼事情都非常的拮据這你聽不進去啊不是 我們是以國家要發展建設的一個相關的需要還人民福祉的一個需求所以我們是希望說這個預算能夠盡量來審查然後能夠來使用這樣 |
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主委長 在現在可以說是國家財源非常豐沛的時候我們的負債 現在負債有多少負債是財政部負責的但是我們目前大概兩兆六千多吧國債中的情況現在是怎麼樣 |
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你這樣什麼事情都要問財政部那你限財政部於不仁不義喔所以財政部在他大樓外面寫的國債中的數字你們通通不去看喔連主計長這個事情都不知道那全台灣有誰會知道所以國債中的部分連國家負債多少你都不知道目前是你這預算怎麼編啊 |
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但是我們中央的國債中這是含地方的部分啦所以這個部分是本身好 那我請那個部長講給你聽總部長他都推給你啊那你要講兩句話嘛 對不對中華民國財政的情況好不好會不會破產現在的國債中是往下還是往上 |
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委員對於債務的控管財政部一直都是非常的謹慎在做那國債中根據12月19號是253,000他是含長短債都算在內 |
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那是屬於可控的範圍我們對於債務的控管都非常嚴謹是因為我們一定要遵守公債法那國家的財務狀況好還是不好國家的財務狀況在我們在相關的嚴謹的控制之下我們的財務狀況是應該在國際上是受到肯定的而且是獲得非常好的評價對啊我就覺得你做都是賺很多錢啊 |
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而且稅收非常的充沛但是問題是委員你看嘛連續八年來稅收每年超徵大概超過八千多億通通都是有錢的但是稅收好同時我們也要多做建設然後對於民眾照顧所以在稅出的部分也希望大院能夠緊述審議那對於新興計畫新增計畫都能夠執行而且對於一一五年的預算數超過一四年的執行數也才能夠執行謝謝委員 |
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現在一整天討論下來大家都知道結論了就是要溝通嘛對不對你執政的現在國會是少數就是40%即便是陳水扁的時代也是兩個字啊溝通再溝通 |
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沒有事情解決不了問題你連溝通都不溝通連立法院113個立委的辦公室幾年去一次半年去一次多久見到韓院長半年才溝通這個不是正確的行為嗎多多請教一下上一任朱哲銘人家是怎麼做的啦好不好 謝謝 |
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726.155 |
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730.504 |
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好 謝謝羅委員今天這一個報告專題很嚴肅這不是在演戲 |