| IVOD_ID |
166574 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/166574 |
| 日期 |
2025-12-22 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-4-15-17 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第17次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
4 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
17 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第4會期內政委員會第17次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-12-22T12:37:45+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-12-22T12:44:52+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:07 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/540097afd73d1038f177c10095994d14f200d91c7a5d8c83f2c9a52355be4d236a6179980499944d5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
盧縣一 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:37:45 - 12:44:52 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-12-22T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
(變更議程)立法院第11屆第4會期內政委員會第17次全體委員會議（事由：邀請內政部部長、衛生福利部部長、交通部部長、警政署署長、國家安全會議秘書長、國家安全局局長、法務部部長就計畫性攻擊事件進行「社會治安維護之檢討與精進」專題報告並備質詢。） |
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主席有請我們刑事警察局座右偉局長請處處長我們先讓署長跟部長休息 |
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那我最主要是要問說到現在為止有知道犯案動機了嗎我們目前還在清查中因為大概都知道說是生存遊戲謎是嗎知道嗎通常我們看到國外的話大概就知道說大概是宗教的原因或者是種族的原因 |
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那我們目前不太知道他的原因那今天有點遺漏就是說很像沒有叫他之前的單位過來也就是空軍的太前伏過兵馬志願役的空軍志願役然後他是酒駕太儲 |
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所以我在想他的介入點應該是在哪裡我說他的犯罪的動機或者是說他的心理層面的因素可能這個部分是不是以後在警察大學在上課的時候是不是要多一點這方面的教育我剛看了時間點就是17點23分15點40分到18點50分一共190分鐘裡面的時序裡面第一件死亡案件是5點23分 |
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然後5點41分就說已經鎖定這個個案可是他5點23分發生第一件到第二件就是大概還有一個多小時的時間大概有75分鐘的時間你們已經鎖定了可是75分鐘裡面是一個空窗期就是他第二個死亡的這個當中你們有做了哪些努力這個部分報言 |
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那個縱火 縱火的是知道是縱火但是縱火不知道他會去做隨機殺人因為他不同區域在中山那縱火的狀況中山就在追就是縱火之後知道他是民而且到台灣去追好那第一個他去做北捷5點23分 |
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129.04 |
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對我要說這個時間裡面對這個時間軸裡面因為這個時間軸裡面5點23分到到這個18點11分這個有影像出來才連結到說這個是去縱火的所以這個是兩件事情所以兩件那我們當然案件的發生就是跟這個身份跟時間在做賽跑這個是一個 |
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150.64 |
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168.293 |
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是個通緝犯 還有一個可以切入的地點就是說它是2024年11月25號教育召集令沒有到然後可是隔了8個月才發通緝也就是今年的7月11號那7月11號到現在大概也有幾個月的時間我是覺得說可能在這個通緝或者是說 |
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169.494 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].end |
187.379 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].text |
找這個人的這個我覺得努力不夠所以我說可能你們有講一些你們的檢討報告比如說你們要從訓練從裝備從演習可是這個部分我覺得應該也要去把它強化是不是這個通氣的時間那麼長段時間裡面你們沒有掌握它的行蹤 |
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189 |
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203.272 |
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剛剛我們法部委就是對於他通緝了發布的狀況那未來這個部分我們會再去做強化就是也就是他因為通緝我們當然是會去做查補那通緝的狀況就是他的居住手 |
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204.433 |
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217.141 |
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這一定是會去做查補不過這個人已經跟家裡這個斷了大概兩年以上的時間沒有住在他的這個資料的一個這個地方所以他是一個不定時的需要一點時間去做查補謝謝署長那我們請衛福部次長跟羅一鈞局長還有署長 |
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233.165 |
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255.063 |
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市長那個我看你們的報告就是大概都針對我們社安網也就是說你們看我們可以預期說你們接下來要多800多億的一個社安的2.0不過這個裡面什麼脆弱家庭保護措施加害人處境沒有這個針對我們這個類似這個邊緣人的這個部分所以是不是可以掌握 |
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255.643 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].end |
277.859 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].text |
以後這樣子的一個 比如說酒駕太促然後他是高度封閉他是不是在那個時候在酒駕太促的時候就應該介入他的輔導機制在裡面不然你完全沒有就醫記錄你是不是那個時候他空軍在離開的時候他應該就要輔導他去做心理諮商或者是說精神科的一個診治不然你就沒有辦法接觸到這個人 |
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278.599 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].end |
294.734 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].text |
是非常感謝委員的一個的一個槌尋我剛剛你在回答的時候也也說就是說我們過去我也必須要跟委員報告全世界的社安網基本上主要真的都是在集中在有關於貧窮家暴兒虐身心障礙藥酒飲以及精神疾病是 |
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295.194 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].end |
316.491 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].text |
那這個我們現在目前這個我們我們現在面臨一個新興的一個整個風險的形態這個我其實主要大概這一次的案案個案呈現出兩個案例兩個特色第一個就是說他是一個成人孤立另外第二個就是說他是一個失聯的一個風險群那這那他的原因包括我們現在目前知道 |
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319.513 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].end |
331.724 |
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我現在目前就是說我剛也在這一個我們出來三個月之內那個召集專家那個國內有關這方面最好的學者專家學者我們會研擬這個新的風險的好不好好謝謝那局長羅一鈞局長那個關於這個AIDS的這個部分風險就是說這個有沒有所謂的 |
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342.393 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].end |
362.245 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].text |
各自的一個疑慮或者是說你現在到目前為止你的預期可以掌握的可以公告就是說給大家知道說這個是安全的這個時間點你有做預估嗎就是在事件發生後72小時之內必須要完成投藥才可以把這個感染的機率降到零 |
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362.765 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].end |
381.164 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].text |
所以就已經住院的這個個案部分我們都有個別透過公衛系統跟醫療系統去傳達跟做評估所以在醫療系統這邊已經在住院的有需要投藥的這個傷患的話是已經完成投藥如果不幸有人確診那國家有沒有賠償的機制 |
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383.106 |
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404.483 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].text |
應該是這樣子講 就是說完成投藥 而且他完成投藥這位應該是說相關的這個需要投藥的都在七次療癒的時候是不會有感染的情形如果真的有發生感染的話因為這個艾滋的治療都是公費在提供 後續也有健保會支持所以我想就那個治療醫療的部分都是會由我們政府跟健保這邊來處理 |
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405.504 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].end |
422.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].text |
只是說就這個責任的部分呢可能是牽涉到說砍傷之後造成後續連續感染這些的責任賠償的話那個我們會再請教相關的專家來就如果真的有發生不過要強調就是說我們認為只要完成投藥是不會有這個感染的情形發生就麻煩局長再多追蹤謝謝你謝謝 |